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hello i'm darren jordan dough on the top stories here in al jazeera security forces in brazil have regained control of government buildings attacked by supporters. the former president, j bowles and arrow hundreds broke into congress. the supreme court and the presidential palace in the capital priscilla present. louis danasia, luna, the silver has promised a thorough investigation and punishment for those responsible. the balance comes just a week after he took off his fallen, his narrow election victory in october booth abbey. he'd be ready for. everybody knows that this was encouraged by several speeches made by the former president. he encouraged the invasion of the supreme court of the presidential palace. he encouraged the invasion of the 3 governmental powers whenever he could. this is also his responsibility, and it's the responsibility of the parties that supported him. all. this will be investigated forcefully and very quickly. well,

jed bolton ira has responded condemning the violence in a series of tweets. he says, pillaging and invading public buildings is outside the law, but he denied encouraging his support to saying there's no proof to back up president luna's accusations. monica, you not get reports from re edition ero, a 170 people have been in prison so far the. the security forces have regained the control of the 3 buildings that were under attack. but this does not mean that the problem has been solved far from it. we were with these people on the inauguration day on january, the 1st, they were camped outside of the military barracks. ah, they had said that they were waiting for the military to intervene. they wanted a military coup, and if that would not happen, that they would take matters in hand. and they did. so it came as a surprise that the security forces in brasilia were so slow to act. and that cast some doubts about their loyalties because the military police, the army,

the armed forces in general, have been staunch supporters of former president j able soon. i don't. joe biden has arrived in mexico and his 1st visit to latin america. u. s. president will meet the mexican leda with migration likely to be high on the agenda. earlier, biden visited the southern us voted in the state of texas. the 1st 2 years was ministration of seen. a dramatic increase in the number of migrants entering the u . s. tie ones, defense ministry says 28 chinese aircraft vented it's air defense identification zone. in the past day, beijing confirmed what it called combat fields around the island, which it considers a breakaway province. ukraine has dismissed russian claims with hundreds of its soldiers were killed and an overnight stripes school from apartment blocks were damaged in the attack and the eastern city of crime, a tours with the cranes military says, no one was killed. russia said this price was in retaliation with ukraine's new year attack, which killed dozens of russian soldiers, a boat carrying

a $190.00. 5 wrangler refugees has arrived in western indonesia. hundreds of ringo fleet, refugee camps and bangladesh of reached archie province in recent months. members of the minority wisdom community are persecuted in the home country of men law. more than a of sort shelton neighboring bangladesh. since 2017 in bangladesh. yeah, no, any. oh, by soon id. anybody you question for our 100, if you just. so we come here, do this. oh, we have only just met them today. we will of course, conduct an assessment to assess their information back to me in which and we will be able to get them when there's campus. at this point, we have just met them and we are now in coordination with the government of neesha . protest as in peru are back on the streets, demanding new connections and the resignation of president dina boulevard. a

demonstrations in the southern city of who the aka shut down the airport and cause disruption on major highways on the arctic took office after the impeachment and arrest of federal castillo last month on charges of rebellion and conspiracy. a woman who has been called the most dangerous spy in america is free up a 21 years in prison. on a montez was released on friday, the american citizen was recruited by cuba and the 1980s while working for the u. s . intelligent services. well, those are the headlines. news continues here now to 0 after the bottom line states with that selection bye for now. ah, ah. hi, i'm steve clemens and i have a question. if americans agree that immigration is one of their biggest problems, why can't they just fix it? let's get to the bottom line. ah,

on his 1st day in office, president joe biden promised to revolutionize immigration coming in from the country's border with mexico. but even though he reverse some of the anti immigration policies of former president, donald trump, this white house still hasn't gotten very far. the crisis at the border persists and asylum backlogs persists. things aren't going to be easier in 2023 either. whenever biden proposes less deportations and more pathways, the citizenship he gets blocked by republicans who argue that immigration is just out of control. and whenever he proposes more strict enforcement of immigration laws, he gets attacked by his own progressive base. in the last few days of last year, the supreme court ruled that biden couldn't lift what's called title 40 to a law created by trump in 2020. that used to block migrants and prevent the spread of cove it. so can anything be done about the muddy status quo, at the southern border of the united states, and what supposed to happen to the millions of immigrants who were already here without any documents,

giving them legal residency rights. today we're talking with alan or junior, the founder of or immigration law firm and former president of the american immigration lawyers association and your you'll garcia, the immigration reporter for the texas tribune. your, let me start with you. you're in the near ground, 0 of the immigration devil, this going on. you're in el paso, and would love to just get your sense of the temperature of things right now. and also whether you've seen any big shifts between, you know, the trump era, presiding over our immigration issues at the border and the biden era. yeah, i mean right now, and certain parts of downtown, no paso, there migrants were sleeping in the street still there, depending on volunteers and g. o to find them, play a warm place to stay and go get them some food as far as what the differences are between the binding administration and trump administration. i think and part, i think it's the rhetoric as far as policy. you know,

some of the same policies that the trump administration has divided administration with the plan including title $42.00. but when you say that people are sleeping in the streets and seem desperate, why are they there? well um there's been an increase of number of migrants, particularly of people coming from ne, got our venezuela cuba and a border patrol, processing them as fast as they can in border patrol. doesn't have the infrastructure to hold them on, and so they're releasing them to shelters and n g o n d n g, else and shelters are active passage right now. so border patrol has been having to release a lot of the people on to the streets and some of them are sleeping under a parking garage or are just out in the opened. and so it's, it's a lack of like a infrastructure, you know, and one of the things that i've been paying attention to, and we're interested in,

you know, doing this conversation with both of you today. was the action taken recently by the supreme court to keep the pied administration from ending? what's called title 42 and for our audience. title $42.00 is essentially a public health provision that came out during coven, worried about the spread of cobra. to block immigrants from coming in the united states, the, by the ministration, tried to have that expire to remove that provision. the supreme court said no, leave it in place. can you explain this and unpack why the supreme court of the united states is leaving in place a health provision that many health practitioners, including the center for disease control, are saying is no longer needed. as a lawyer is not very clear to me why they're keeping in place legally, it should not be there in an executive command that is under control. the c d. c. and the cdc said it should not exist anymore. people keep referring to it as title $42.00, but in the immigration world we know it as the steven miller special. so that tells you right there wasn't about cobit, it was about immigration and harm. and the,

what the supreme court has basically done understanding is a procedural question. and the question before the supreme court is, can these states, the 17 states intervene in this case, this late in the argument? it's procedural. so the decision that we will receive in june is not with regards to the merits of title $42.00 can continue to exist, but whether these individuals can actually enter the case. so therefore tile $42.00 will be around for a very long time. but in the space, it is important to know as mcgill is, tell you, even with title 42 in place, people are still being allowed into the country because there's so many exceptions that i don't wanted to. let me ask you to explain to our audience why you've labeled this this, steven miller ah bill or the steven miller provision? what tell us about steven miller? so steven, those plan and coming in from youth from the department of immigration to run into government was that basically shut down u. s. immigration to halt it. not just at the border, but even for business, immigration, he has a tweet with basically said that the trumpet, ministration slowed the green card process to allow more

u. s. workers to return to the market. so everything that stephen miller did, an immigration was belt and suspenders, yet to remain in mexico. he had family separation, yet title 42 total 42 has been around since 1942 in the united states is never used it in any other time. even with the bola, so therefore you see that it's really not about the cdc, but something else. but you're able, what are your thoughts on it? i know you're a reporter reporting on what you see, but i just love to get your personal thoughts on why you see this as has having been so intractable. well, i mean, it's a good campaign talking point, right? i mean, republicans will always use immigration as an, as an issue of, you know, bog for me because i'm going to stop illegal aliens coming into the country. i'm going to stop criminals and drugs, right. democrats, on the other hand, we'll use the same talking point from the, brought from different perspective and say, well, what for me and i will continue with some immigration benefits and always promise some sort of immigration reform. at the same time, you know, there are

a lot of the detention centers that hold immigrants. a lot of them are private. so they, they also benefit with the high number of undocumented immigrants in the country because there it creates a pipe flying to having, having detention centers filled up with people being accused of being in the country illegally. alan would love to get your thoughts on the same question. i think it's one of the struggle of federalism right now is that understanding of time a ration sort of plays. and if we are really the united states, or if we are blue and red states, and that has played out in the courts continually, even in the obama administration, we were so unmanned and the trumpet ministration were so in them. so each state attorney's events went back and forth. so the problem is it is, it is a playground and the failure that we have is that doug that we see with everything else in the countries of congress to act, congress has not passed any immigration bill in 30 years. that will address the needs of the american people and the border concerns. we all talk about it, but we really can't do anything about it. and with the democrats never really

having full control. they don't have enough to cure across the line. and the other problem we have consistently as americans, as we look to the president to solve a problem, but only the legislation can solve if there's no money there. and there's no bill there to get pathways to sort of do what we did with marijuana and what we do with alcohol and all these other to make a legalization path to sort of regular laws. it did, it will continue, be this influx. and at the after cove, it, it is important, the border was shut down for almost 3 years. 2 of the truck administration in the 1st part of the by an administration bukosa cove. it, and they just reopened it so that the large influx along with the political situation that is happening in the north, the northern triangle. do you think allen, that it's going to get worse now? and i want to just preface this with, you know, i deal with a lot of associations in washington, the national restaurant association, the national small business association, the various groups that out there that rely on a labor force that jena raymundo, the secretary of commerce has said, we're a 1000000 jobs 1000000 people short

a year right now in terms of the normal influx of people. because if you look at agriculture in california, most of these places these associations are dominated in majority. not entirely been jordy by republicans. and so i'm, i'm just interested, will this get worse and will there be any sensitivity among those republicans that own these businesses that they're not getting the labor they need? i think so with the chip acting past and return to infrastructure. i think it's time for us to return to the the reagan platform on immigration. understand that people who have some equity being here for a long time deserve something and been immigration is also an opportunity for this country to sort of build ford. we've seen what happened in japan when they sort of checked out on immigration. and we also see what canada's doing right now with their large job shortage and the number people they're trying to get into sort of beat inflation. so we know we need workers a little bit. the problem is happening at the southern border that i should also say is really also picking and choosing which immigrants we want ukrainians. we want to 100000, been as williams we want. we don't want to, the haitians,

we don't want anybody from nicaragua. so that is a little bit different than the american platform. so when we start to live our values of what we say, yours, americans and what we have as current asylum law, language with the supreme court is currently blocking. then we will do a better job with immigration and fixing what we need to happen. so i think it will solve itself because it can not continue because we've already seen cubans now arriving in florida today. 500 of them in them saying that the crisis, 500 people arriving in florida is not a crisis uriel, how much of what we're seeing at the border in our politics and this and they in action is from your perspective driven by racism? well, no, it's hard to tell, right? you know, no one has no one in the federal government has come out and said, we're specific. we're picking specific migrants. but i think that when we see stories about when a federal government was able to muster up the resources and there was political well to help ukrainian come into the country. you know,

that's not only. busy those resources are, are disappear when we're talking about ministry and new cut out winds. cubans and they're coming. and these are people coming from countries in which the u. s. government has described dose dose specific countries as being run by a dictator. so, i mean, i think, i think we can see based on those stories and based on we treated ukrainian refugees and the desperate treatment to latin american immigrants where you're getting to a point that i think is very important. which is that asylum, our, our country, the united states has been a place for those seeking asylum. those being, you know, threatened their life, threatened their harass, detained, in some cases, murdered. the united states has been a haven for people that were subjected to suppression, as part of the dna and the legal infrastructure of the country and serial. what is happening. so when you've described as lots of people are banning their countries

because of conditions. and i think what is begun to evolve, and i'll just be honest about it is a sense that nobody believes these or asylum cases. but again, can you help us unpack the legitimacy or the solvency of those seeking asylum in the scale of that versus being a tactic by people coming up, who just want to get into the u. s. and say asylum? right, i mean, the migrants have interviewed and just the reports are coming out from latin america there's, there's dire conditions and it varies under reason why migrants come. i mean, we're talking about climate change affecting farming jobs. we're talking about economics, oppression, lack of jobs, and political persecution, and some of these countries. and as some mothers and some fathers have told me that i've interviewed, they said they don't feel safe sending their children to school or to run in there and around the corner store because they're afraid that they're going to get

kidnapped. in some cases, some others have told me they've been threatened by drug cartels or organized crime groups. just the quality of life there is not. it's not something that americans are used to living in. so for a lot of them, they're desperate to come to, to a safe haven. and regardless of what are what us immigration policies are for them, they just want to get to where they feel that they can have some basic level of quality of life. i want to get to allen and in a 2nd about the law to get there. yeah, i want to make them for. yeah, i'd like to make a point about that. so it isn't that everybody is entitled to us. is that everybody is entitled to the process, right? so excluding people from having to process the sort them through the issue that we have a title 42. so maybe everybody's asylum point is not about a claim or doesn't reach the burden that needs to remain in the country. they get to make the claim, right? that's the problem according to and that's the problem with our border control. we're saying to some people you can apply and other people you can. so but let me

get to this, this question then alan and pursue that just for a moment. we've done another show recently with tom nichols in farrah stockman affairs with the new york times tom stockman with the atlanta tom nichols with the atlantic and in it we were sort of asking this question of what is the picture look like for processing these claims. and the backlog and the u. s. court is staggering . farrah stockman wrote an article saying, you know that that load is not being processed. the resources are not being moved. and my guess my question is promote legal responsibility perspective. why isn't vital ministration, putting more resources, money, support staff to process the claims that are already in hand? because she said, just with what we have now before you have new entrance into it, that system is, is near collapse. so i think that problem is very clearly that the president has the pocket, but it's from congress. so congress hasn't given the president of money to authorize that he's asked for to meet those backlog. and i also will say that

backlog or a choice, much like would be line up at airport. we think that the longer it takes to get them where the say we are. and that's the problem with immigration across the board . and we're not using modern systems. we're using old system to do handle modern problems, and therefore we have the big delayed, the last administration open 300000 close cases and put them back into the backlog to what we need to do now to sort of sort some of these cases out and say, listen, these cases are whole, they've been here for a long time, the equity that we've talked about in the reagan administration. we're just going to approve those people. it's not worth it to sort of go through them because they've already been here. something we're going to happen is going to happen and then sort of manage it differently. the concept of thing, we're going to get every case in group. now that and do some bedding, but it doesn't really go to the real world for people who are speaking with a lot. seems remarkably silly to me. you're one of the other quite just going to get back in it for a minute was to look at what you were talking about, the conditions and some of these countries with autocrat people suffering from climate change but also from miserable other human rights conditions where they may

be one of common harris's jobs given to her by president biden, was to go down, spend some time in central america, and look at what could be done to try and support those economies into and to mitigate some of these conditions that were driving so much migration has, has their come anything at all tangible that you've seen from vice president, commonly harris's efforts? no, nothing tangible. i mean, the, but in ministration has tried to creeds, some programs that would allow some people to apply from their home countries for asylum, but nothing tangible that we can say, you know, a crate any, any of the but it ministration separate or created a certain amount of jobs or has created better, better conditions for people to live. well, thank you. i mean, go ahead one thing. one thing i do want to point out, as you know,

just because someone does apply for asylum, you know, it, let's say that they're asylum case does open up. it's not another magic thing when one point that people need to understand is that i believe the average wait time for a silent case to be decided at 5 years. so when we talk about the backlog to is, you know, people have to wait for 5 years, and in those 5 years, you know, people are still uncertain if they're going to be able to live in the country or have to go back to their home country so, you know, just to emphasize the point of the lack of resources and the lack of urgency to, to be able to process these claim sooner. and pastor alan got given those timelines and you kind of connect that again to the economic side of what america needs to continue to run its economy. have people come in? does this keep the illegal immigration dimension to our economy kind of driving? i mean, does america because it can't process things legally or in a timely way, become weirdly dependent,

dysfunctional dependent on the presence of illegal immigration. oh, i mean, an authorized work is sort of the found ation of the country in some ways. and yes, it does. and i will also say the vice president's office during the very 1st year, her administration did make a private partnership deal that brought billions of dollars to this wrangell, which at some point may show a change in the direction and also with the north america. some of that happened in l. a. this year there was a large conversation about migration move and you see canada sort of stepping on the front of that. i think we need people. we're going to facilitate getting that. you've actually heard me the people at the, at the southern border now that we're just trying to get to canada. let's sort of make that happen for us. but the conversation for me, for america shouldn't be about keeping people out. it should be about protecting people because those are our values. and when it comes to a style and we should also remember that those are all worked out you. and when we do make these things just like with alcohol, when you said it was a prohibition or with, with drug that was a provision, it creates an underground market. so yes, the title $42.00 in plate,

all the smugglers are making more money. everyone else is going to bring in the doctor, getting people to get the form, the food from the table, from the farm to the table for us to eat or going to drive it. so it's time for us to meet. i need one of the things that we thought would happen in december was an act bill, because, as you said before, with the bipartisan situation, there are many republican republicans. they say we need workers in a place where vermont had a low number population. our numbers are down, it's time for us to realize that immigration is just one of the other tools we have to survive or allen. let me get right at that. we saw governor abbot, we saw governor de santis aboard governor habit of taxes. basically, we had a lot of migrants across the border and they flew them to martha's vineyard. they flew them to washington, d. c. to be led off right outside the vice president's house. and i have to tell you there are a lot of progressives. i know i should say, progressives and liberals who said, there is an interesting point behind this, that southern states are feeling, the population pressure and the,

the challenges and in terms of supporting the costs of those have just recently come across the border and that the nation me say, hey, that doesn't make sense. we, you know, we need to be more humane at the border that they aren't coughing up the support as much. are there ways to make an egalitarian environment in which other states have more chips in and more support for what some of the causes you'd like to see the more humane treatment at the border? well, i think the humane treatment is who we are as americans and, and what we've resolved after world war 2. so that's all of us across the board. i also think that the conversation with regards to texas saying that this is a burden when in fact having to border the benefit, right. how much trade, how much money did they generate for texas because they are located at the border. how much, what hasn't brought texas to be at the forefront other than that trade across the border. and you're only seen a couple of places. i mean, in el paso, you saw the community step up and accept people. so i would sort of say, you know, that the blessing is also the curse of trying to battle those situations. and probably because the people in those situations have been so much about close the

border and hurting people than resolving issues that for the benefit the people that that may be the problem. so i don't think that that is necessarily that the states can absorb those people because they accept airplanes every day. all the other ports are fine and they're able to process them. is just people at the southern border, which means it's something very focused on a very real hateful manner. and so i think we should stop. think about people as problems. that's number one because the worth ling for the life, no matter what the situation is, whether they me to sell him or not, deserves a dignity, a respect for fling for their lives. and i think we will do the same thing. and so the resolve here should be let live our values and live understand the way. ford is as americans as one thing, elections over the what's better for the people? and i think that the conversation about what led to the truck administration being elected that golden egg saying he was going to solve the border, which he did not. that we should understand enforcement policies only do not lead to a resolution in immigration. we can't build a wall that will shut us out from the rest of the world, uriel, i'd like to give you the last word and ask you is we kind of talk about this and

how to unpack this. i read your, your coverage of this. it's excellent, i recommended everyone, a search serial garcia and texas tribune and, and, and get your updates. but on this broad side of exporting, you know, the border challenges of immigration at the border to other states which abbott and de santis did. how did that play locally, and what are your thoughts on, on the sensitivities that the rest of the country should have to this immigration problem? i think the point that any american should ask themselves as we have an issue, right? people are leaner countries, and as americans we should ask ourselves, how do we want to handle this issue? do we want to handle this issue by just clothing off the border putting up was sending the military or do we want to be humane and help people who are asking for help? and so for angie wilson, activists and advocates, we've been working with migrants coming across the border. for lot of them,

they're looking for any type of resources to help get the migrants to their final destination. if that comes by governor average putting program, they're okay with it as long as it helps the migrant. i mean, there's rhetoric around that program that they don't agree with. but i think ultimately what they want is help they need resources and they're asking for the rest of the rest of the country, your chin. and like i said, that's the point that, that i think that's american should we should ask ourselves. we have an issue, how do we deal with this issue or immigration lawyer, alan or junior, in texas tribune immigration reporter uriel garcia, really appreciate that conversation. thanks for being with us. thank you. so what's the bottom line? the immigration crisis in the western hemisphere has been getting worse for decades, and we have to face it both us political parties are complicit. now, even the supreme court has stepped in to permit the distortion of what was supposed to be an emergency health based regulation to keep immigrants out of the country.

congress refuses to budget more money for immigration courts, which means that the courts everywhere are flooded with hundreds of thousands of backlog cases that are going nowhere. think about it, a legal system in the u. s. that's literally too poor to carry out the law. the trumpet, ministration, weaponized the issue, and pushed for a wall to cut off the united states from the rest of the hemisphere. the by the administration has made many promises, but is nowhere near ending. the sad, horrific stories of abuse detentions rapes, human trafficking, and even deaths at the southern border of the country. and now with the opposition in control of congress, the window of opportunity for reform just got a lot smaller and that sadly, is the bottom line. ah, a new generation of young people are more politically engaged in the one that came before. welcome to generation, change a global feelings and attempts to talent,

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