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is disruptions, the nurses say that without guarantees on staffing levels, the crisis will only get worse for them and the patients they care for. kristin salumi al jazeera new york. now the 1st attempted satellite launch from western europe has failed to reach orbit. the company behind the mission blamed an unspecified problem with the rocket. it was deployed of the atlantic ocean of modified. boeing 747 aircraft, which is safety landed to the spaceport in southwest england. the rocket had 9 satellites on board. it appears that one to one has suffered anomaly which will prevent us from making all but for this mission, we are looking at the information and data that we have gotten ah, type of picture of the headlines here on al jazeera, 14 protest, as have been killed in peru, in the latest demonstrations demanding the resignation of president dean apollo
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arctic. they died in confrontations with security forces. they try to overrun the airport. in the southern city of uli aka, but a lot it took office out to impeachment and arrest a former president federal castillo last month on charges of rebellion and conspiracy. police in brazil avenue clearing out, protest camps in the capital a day after an attack on government buildings by supporters of a former president. jab wilson aro, they refused to accept his defeat in october election, making unfounded claims that the vote was rigged. around 1500 people have been arrested since arrives. demonstrators of rally been defense of democracy in brazilian and south palo. they're calling for those involved in the storming of congress, the presidential palace and the supreme court to be jail. a latin america edison, a seaman was at the rally because they want those responsible. not only the ideological authors, intellectual office, but the ones who actually carried out the attack on this country 3 institutions to
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be put in prison. but also they're asking for president or former president rather bull sonata, to also be put in prison and his 3 sons. while they're at it, so there is this call for there to be no amnesty, as has happened in this country many times in the past that these people pay for their attempted destroy what they call this country's democracy. yes, president joe biden has pushed a tougher action on illegal migration and drugs and meeting with his mexican counterpart. the talks in mexico city come ahead of the north american summit. when they joined by canada's prime minister just intruded. the u. s. president has declared a state of emergency in california where tens of millions of people are being warned to expect more severe storms. at least 12 people have been killed in the past 10 days. and the 1st attempted satellite launch on western europe has failed to reach obit accompany behind. the mission blamed an unspecified problem with a rocket. it was deployed of the atlantic ocean from modified. boeing,
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747 aircraft. the rocket had 9 satellites on board. so those are the headlines. the news continues here on to 0, after generation change, they transporting bye for now on the counter in the costs we look at what's in store for real estate. it's just the risk of a global recession increases when millions of homeowners of yours are at a highly exposed rate, rises during any economic downturn. and we ask what you might want to do to protect yourself. challenging the cost or 0. i think a history of activism is rooted in struggling against the fighting. now the born fee generation believe it is their time to fight for more people and just society. welcom food generation change a global theories and attempts to challenge and understand the ideas and mobilize
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move around for rob. i'm and charlie, an independent journalist based here in johanna. in this episode, we need to women who are working towards radical change to address challenges is very debt database violence, cloth and racial inequality and climate change thing . mm kid them if they were born ok, $94.00 at the end of a part it. what do you think people don't know about the role of women in the struggle against the part that i really think the way in which history is told it serves a purpose, right? which has also to reinforce, you know, a male dominated a presence and power structure, right. is this reinforcement of these mottoes,
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right? these men who come and save us vulnerable group of women which has inheritance the wrong and for women were organizing churches, sales, trade union, women would literally carrying the country on the back and shoulder. how ill a history continues to omit that. and i think what it does is that it continues to further alienate women and their contributions, they're making society with a political, social, even economic ah, we here at constitution hill in johannesburg, and particularly in the structure we are at the women's jail. why was this a significant space for you when i think about the caliber of women that were incarcerated in this place, you know, it literally just brings me in, or it's the persistence of women writing themselves into history even in the absence. right. and for me, as a young feminist, as a young actor was,
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that has been really pinnacle in crowned in my own activism as a new generation. as the woke generation, we must never ever get tired of developing new resistance strategies. i mean, if these women were able to organize themselves, i know probably one of the most difficult conditions. i see no reason why we're unable to achieve, you know, the idea of building the biggest feminist global movement. you're now to anything in an activist since he was 17. what was the compelling factor that made you think, you know, i want to be in there was a case by go by the name of i mean poisons and western cape she was rape. impeach the kill entry. i was like, oh my gosh, i'm 17. she's 17, she got killed on the lights out and i was thinking about all the times. i like to jump again or to go out with my friends. what would happen if you happen to meet
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those just so much uniqueness and similarity almost a decade later. and now i'm the, you know, the chin, founder of the black woman quote with we are not interested in the, a. 2 what ultimately black woman caucus seeks to do is to really creates a society for your wives. we don't want to live as violence. breathe in society all the time. we want to be comfortable. i mean, i'm feeling like i want to be able to walk down the streets of johannesburg and not worry about am i doing for you? 17. and you've already been an activist for a few years now. how did you start and what was it that me just got? so it all started in 2018 when we were taught to do some research on climate change
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. i grew a lot of carbon anxiety, seeing all these facts about how we have limited time and watching my future fade away as the health of our environment, the kinds and what it ignited. my activism was the society to do everything in my power to create a change what i mean, some people will say that you know what? this stuff is for people who can afford to have 5 different bins and recycled buds . you know, you've spoken to the fact that it does affect people whom, you know, live in the townships, poor people. for 1st time i came to realize the seriousness behind environmental racism. when i spoke to a friend of mine, who said when she was very young, she had to live with her grandmother was stating to wait till we say there, she developed breathing difficulties. and if you read through and she moved back to the server, everything was fine. and that's when she made the link bad because the air quality
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insulate all was so terrible that she developed asthma on that. and you can make that link with a pulse 8 how her opposing government basically that it's all in one area and in new people, another area. and how do you prefer one area and gave life people that land that belong to those citizens that they stamped and areas. and even though we live in a post upon south africa, that neglect is so carried out what has been rewarding and that you would consider, you know, biggest mall in achievement that you've been able to kind of get to with your work so far. i think wanted to rent that make a big impact. my life is when someone will come to me personally and say thank you for coming from either side of the land and now i know better. and now i can do
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better. i think the biggest a children's also just picking up approaches, a lot of activists around the world don't have that privilege. and who do i speak to speak their mind? so being able to stand up in front of college and speak your mind as, as the a privilege and also a big achievement. when you, once again year people listening, you hear the prayer. responding, he said, come on in articles, theera, you're 17 and keep them in for you 26. i'm wondering for both of you what you feel, the defining values and elements of each of your respective generations. activism are okay. um, so firstly i belong to the 1st cohort of the born fries, you know, the generation that was born after democracy in south africa. and i think for a large, you know, to a large extent, our activism is really centered and crowded around holding. you know,
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our democratic government, accountable, right, hoping for a significant change in the living conditions of youth and just the population more broadly. so we do borrow a lot from the anti party struggle in terms of the music, the songs kind of the struggle songs that you thing, and also some of the organizing and mobilizing strategies. you know, we really don't focus in terms of mass space movement building. and this is quite evident with the feasible for student poses across 26 institutions of higher learning, which saw university students demanding for free colonized high education. but of course, you know, the success of moments such as feasible for a large, the attributed to digital and online activism. and how that has also helped us in terms of shaping our own narrative, syria, you know, something about that. but what would you like to add? yeah, kinsey, we grew up in the age of technology,
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the world of social media. and that came with a lot of benefits in terms of with mobilizing people internationally. and especially now during a pandemic. what social media is also brought is lots of inclusivity because you moving away from just that mainstream media narrative and embracing a diverse range of narratives and you getting to include so much more within your activism. so i think the inclusivity that social media has brought has been a key and defining factor with gmc. so f is most recent, used to lead to mass movement towards fisma fall, which as you mentioned earlier, was the fight to you know, gain wide access for free. and d, colonized tissue education. what do you think it was about that movement? kids you meant that that made it resonate so widely with our generation. i think a big part of fisma for beyond issues of x is, was really holding government accountable to say,
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to what extent are you prepared to sacrifice an upcoming generation of young leaders and accesses purely on the basis of you know, keeping or be deliberate about keeping it commodified a as a racist system that continues to marginalize and exclude lex children specifically from institutions of high there are you about 1215 when this was unfolding on the news media? what did it mean for you on a personal level to see young people really, you know, rise up on such a mass scale. it was really inspiring and is watching history unfold, read before my eyes. and while i didn't understand how the, how complex the issue was back there, and i understood the surface level of it, but diving into activism, the feasible activists. so one of the most inspiring activists that i look up to give you permission to be angry as well. yes. 100 percent. and like i said before,
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that anger just ignited passion to stand up and fight me kid to miss your as you t should you the found a, in fact, of the black women's caucus, which among the many mandates you have, is looking into eradicating gender based violence can you talk to me about the myriads of violence? is that so african women right now facing? i mean, when you speak about in the base violence, of course, you know, the most needed understandings around sexual and physical forms of violence. you know, and this is, and this makes sense, i mean, south africa is seen as a real capital globally, not a pretty take to have. and by the way, our famous side rate is 5 times higher than the global average. right. and so understanding around in the balance, been famous that has really been within that conceptual framework. however, as black women were saying that it is a service for us to reduce gender based violence and fame aside to only physical
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and sexual forms of violence. you know, political violence, economic violence, environmental violence, social violence, all violence is the country peach, the laundry facilities of women. and it's important that when we find solutions and we propose who says that they must be multi problems and they must be classical so that they're able to address the sources of violence. so can you give me an example of what that work looks like, or how you bring these solutions to the public? of course, a lot of the steps and research than in south africa around in the base violence has attributed to a women's economic participation as a massive dr. vulnerability to gender based violence and sam aside. so in 2019, on the 13th of september. when we march to the ritual square mile in africa and sentence demanding greater participation from private states in terms of, you know, their response to gender based violence. we're ultimately saying you need to also
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be able to, you need to be held accountable for women's economic viability. because largely when you think about great, been famous, i had always think about it within the confinement of the home. right? but the moment we made it a business issue and economic issue were ultimately saying that the continuous subjugation and violation of women number one cause the sub african economy between 20 and 40000000000 rand annually. right. and that also means that part of our acts of it, part of our mobilization and advocacy requires us to make structural changes. it looks like you had something to 100 percent. it needs systemic change. if you just paying change on one service that's of is, is widespread. and in order for structural change to take place and the most effective change take place that needs to be systemic, it needs to be institutionalized. so all the way addressing every level of the problem. 100 percent fair. i, you started climate, gloria's, and you're
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a part of the collective movement. tell me what collective movement is and what would you do with them. so the connector movement is a youth, an aide into sectional climate group. and we aimed to achieve time, a justice through social justice and vice versa. so it's a group of young activists, and recently i work has all been on social media and online because of had demick. so this year we working on climate change through patton, african context. so interviewing or having discussions with activists from uganda and kenya, and just broadening our perspective on climate change and how the policy making takes place in different areas around the world and different challenges and coming up with solutions. and then also spreading awareness and advocating and pushing forward the climate just as taught and movement to educate as many people on the climate change issue and exposing the intersectionality needed and bringing about
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inclusivity within the time and justice movement. why do you think specifically in the south african context that climate justice has taken a backseat to other issues such as, you know, the ones that gives him it's and i was talking about. so i think in the past, obviously if you're looking at a pre democratic south africa where people are fighting again, so paul said redeem and fighting for liberation. come a change, understandably so is going to take a backseat. when you fighting to be free in your own country. but if you're looking at a post apologies africa when we living in a democracy, i think there's a huge sense of apathy from those impala that 1st the people in power putting profit before the people we living in. we stuck in this capitalist mindset . another issue is the climate literacy rates in south africa, extremely low, and that comes down to an educational issue. so apathy and the lack of climate
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literacy course. what do you think? the intersections between climate justice and the kinds of justice that you know, your work strives really interesting. hey, i really like the fact that you know, breaking climate justice with social justice. and i think for large, you know, for a long time we've thought about climate just as a stand alone kind of struggle. you know, it's like sitting in the corner and nobody really wants to view. busy it, but what has been very important and has been quite a big eye opener for me myself as a, as a feminist, is the work we've been doing in formal settlements. and how, when you spoke about literacy, environmental literacy. how we still struggling to make the connections at community they will between the environment and social justice claim example. one of the communities that we work in is called that a parking formal settlement for water and sanitation breakdown in infrastructure.
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and just listening to you, i can already see, you know, how climate just fits into that, right? but i do believe that to a large extent, the climate justice movement has positioned itself as quite a white lead to movement, right? it has struggled to deal with a very concrete condition that an ordinary person in south africa facie. but i think in a country like south africa, we need to be able to who and ground ideology and advocacy in the lived experiences of people on a day to day basis. what do you say to this climate change for the longest time has seemed like a very privileged issue. if i'm struggling to put food on my plate, why should i care about the quality? why should i care about little on the beach? and i think that come down to the needful climate, conscious media and was kind of conscious media inclusivity. so looking at climate
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change across the world. and also understanding that solutions that may work in the west on going to work in africa for various reasons. we have different economies, different policies, different governments, different histories, it just would fit. and i think was very vital when looking at climate justice and time of change is looking at it through an intersection. so instead of separating environmental factors and the social factors, bridging them together because common justice and social justice intensity linked together to bring about positive change by tackling one. that solution is going to affect the other in either a positive or negative way, depending on what the solution is. so if you're looking at time a change geographically, climate change is going to disproportionately affect poorer black communities. so within your activism, you need to take within climate activism,
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you need to take into account classism, racism, sexism, homophobia, flu, ample. it's a natural disaster. we're to strike those communities would be most vulnerable. and if you look at the way society treats those communities now imagine how much was it's going to be when a due to natural disaster is needed and needs to be brought to those communities. so advocating for human rights, you can pick and choose no form of oppression exists and isolation. i wonder what you both think, you know, the possibility of achieving your ideas and what a just world looks like. what do you think the implications of delivered and has on the way that you do what i'm picking up and said capitalism, inheritance lee, you know, glorifies the individual, its limitations. however, an activism is that activism is not a one man show. right?
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and unfortunately, capitalism has created and it's continues to co opt civic action and civic and civic interventions and presents them as one men shows. right? we have the model that comes out, you know, this, you know, the intended sensation that comes out and is going to save the world. you know, i think what that does is that breaks down organic movement building strategies, right? i don't think we have any strong tangible movements that are being, you know, that are being nurtured, but instead what we're seeing, we're seeing individual acts of as rising and listen, i'm not saying it's a bad thing to have the popstars of a movement image. they're important, they keep the movement fun and dynamic, but i do think it's important that you lose our activism in communities because these alternative realities every once you know, the empty capitalist reality that we want to simulate into sexual reality that we
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want is not going to be fostered by an individual, it needs an active, you know, it needs to be from a collective in order to drive that mandate. and i think this is some of the critiques of capitalism infiltrating cervical activist work, 100 percent. community community based change is the most sustainable and effective change in the long. and if you're looking at capitalism in a capitalistic world, the most ideal position you can be in right now is to be a white man. and that breaks down so much, it breaks down the feminist movement and breaks down any movement led by women. capitalism breeds the system of inequality. it's always going to be if i'm winning someone else's losing. and like you said, it's a very individual, a glory, 5 individual work. and that is extremely problematic. it's also very problematic to have one face re present
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a whole movement because it excludes people that don't match that face that don't match the demographic. so yeah, definitely not carbon capitalism is the main cause to climate crisis. sorry. can i just add onto that? you know, i mean, i'm reflecting, reflecting such an important aspect of growing and as active as we should never stop reflecting. and when i think about, you know, the 2 parties movement. firstly, i know for a fact that many people who participated in those movements in those forms of resistance were not participating because they were individuals that they were idolizing is because they felt a strong sense of, you know, personhood. i mean, the issues affecting me directly. therefore, i need to actively participate in finding the solutions. and i think you know, the idea of the glorifying of the individual grubs as of it. and i think our community of, of the to hold is grounded to hold us accountable. and to make sure that we are
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working and living within the ideals of the, of the movements that we represent. well, i guess in closing, i'm curious if, if it's not clear so far what you both hope to achieve and if you feel optimistic about, you know, being able to actually achieve those things, keep them at the i will, perpetual optimist. firstly, as a disclaimer, so i definitely do think things will get better. i do think that you know, we need to intensify our minds and struggles, but also change all sides of oppression and fighting. right. i think so many times you know, what activism and how we tradition of you know, activism to be said. busy we take to the streets, writes to get out messages across. and although that is important, we also need to see some radical advancement and transformation in the policy, in covenants fios, right?
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and so as black woman call, cuz, you know, at the heart of the solutions that we propose as a social movement, is the realization and strengthening of feminist movements, which are going to foster feminist leadership. we need to see an emergence of new radical feminist leaders. really shaping the world to where we want to take it. right. and i honestly believe that we've got the right energies. we've got the minds, we've got the hearts and ms. stewart sarah. oh. 1 i, like i said, i have climbing anxiety and the only thing i can thing on to that cabinet dieties optimism towards a future. it drives me to constantly wake up and make the decision that this is what i'd like to change. this is where, you know, that could be the change you want to see an advocate for the change that you'd like to see. so i think a main goal is to just get the same urgency that we're carrying today with sending that to the hearts of our government and our leadership to demand a climate emergency and to attack all of the social issues that we've unpacked
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today. because once again, social justice is climate justice and vice versa. so yeah, i think unification needs to take case like today, between the dick generations and just, you know, keep the energy, don't let it die. i feel going up with social media. you see activism turns into a trend and it reads a lot of performance of activism and every year and every month there's a new hash tag and something use trending and, and serve treating activism and social issues as a trade make it. keeping that advocacy along constant action that moves within your heart. sarah, kids with thank you so much for joining me and generation change a new generation of young people and making demands to we balance society. welcome to
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