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penny officially recognized udo as a religion in the 90s. after years of suppression, the government now considers it as a fundamental aspect of the country heritage and identity. this festival has been celebrated for the past 10 years. as the celebration of our religion engine for legion, followed by millions. yeah. in many republic, i'm really a school abroad, especially in the caribbean. a lot of reaches go in to the food festival days of sacrifice and rituals that many find disturbing. but vo to supreme leader called the pontiff, disagrees. she couldn't locally, this is colonizers macros, as fetish. but rudy is not all about worshipping dolls or blood lettering. it's not about magic. we do is a complete belief system that does a lot of good things. i didn't believe that religion survived decades of european onslaught. and was of i for many more saint george to come?
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i'm at the priest algae, sierra. we doub, ah say this is our desert. these are the top stories and tens of thousands of opposition. supporters have gathered in bangladesh company to protest against the government. they want the next general election to be held under a non partisan k taken administration. 10 bit child dri has more now from dr. bye, you can say that massive gathering to death. this is a rally called by alliance of 32 opposition. political parties, which is supported by the main opposition party bangladesh, nationalist party. and i was a my long stretch of people, tens of thousands of people, not just tear, but also in front of the national press club in dock i. and across the country. peruse, attorney general is launching an investigation against president deena blue r t on genocide and murder charges. it follows the death of 17 protested on monday
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. the new government has since won a vote of confidence. russian forces have stepped up their assault and a small assault mining town and eastern ukraine with the help of a group of mercenaries like the group is now claiming control over solid al city center for keep says it. soldiers holding out by jane has defended its decision to suspend the short term baez's to south korean. and japanese japanese citizens saying it was in retaliation to entry restrictions on china and accused countries of discrimination. also to impose cubic 9, teenager restrictions and so suspended tourist fuses. police in germany are a victim climate accidents from a small town. it's going to be turned in. coal mine, a court has rejected the protest this request to stay. the police have its thought of removing them. it is in president jeff edwardo has expressed regrets about one of the darkest chapters of his country's history,
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including the massacre of more than half 1000000 people and arrests took place in the mid 19 sixty's. she writes groups say widowed as expression of regrets, like several other indonesia in leaders before him is not enough. place in the french capital, say they've shot a man, artery attacked several people with a knife. it happened in the busy garden or station in paris. several people have been injured. the suspect is now under arrest. there's a headlines next up. it's i story of the world economic forum returns to divorce in january to assess the global economy, reshaped by the pandemic. and the war in ukraine can lead us from government and business, prevent a promised decade of action, becoming a decade of uncertainty. extensive coverage on al jazeera, the attack on brazil's congress by supporters of the former president has base questions about democracy. how much mandate should governments have if they win
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power by a tiny margin? and what does it mean for lashes and to party systems? this is the side story. ah. hello, welcome to the program. our hashem alcala, brazil's newly elected president. lewis in yesterday that a syllabus facing a mountain of challenges left by his predecessor jab, olson, otto storming of government buildings in the capital on sunday has made security one of the most pressing issues. president luna has accused his general's of not doing enough to prevent the rampage of the presidential palace, congress and supreme court. the un secretary general and several world leaders have expressed support for president lula, y condemning theater,
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brazilians to have spoken out tens of thousands of people have held rally, is demonstrating against why they call an attack on democracy would get, i'll guess in a moment. first, this report from our latin america deter, lucio newman in south bottle. the 1st public response to a very public attempt to undermine brazil's democratic institutions. many thousands of people gathered in. so paolo, the country's most populous city, to repudiate sunday's assault on the presidential palace supreme court, and congress buildings in the capitol, brazil. yet like almost every one here, eliana blames former president jane bull. so nato, whom she believes was the mastermind of the attack. i know he must be jailed for all the things he's done in this country. he promoted militia thieves the tax on the amazon black gays. and now beth, we won't let the specious pass. never again. earlier police detained him,
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began questioning more than $1500.00 global sonata activists suspected of taking part in the assault. the camp did set up months earlier, just a kilometers from the presidential palace has been demolish. they'd echoed bull sonatas, unfounded claims that a literal fraud stole his re election last year for, for the all, but as a whole, the justice minister says the culprits were hoping to inspire a nation wide revolt, but failed in their attempt to overthrow president lula desilva, who had been sworn in just a week earlier, mostly them all to copy thought was a little, we witnessed a brazilian version of the u. s. capital building attack, but with 2 differences. first, no one died. and secondly, we have more people under arrest here than in the u. s. and very quickly, the investigation into financed and lead the rage is just beginning. i bought a short ride since yesterday. we believe many big business interests paid for the
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buses to bring those coo mongers to priscilla and set of camps. those businessman needs investigated and punished oh, demonstrate was here. also wanted to show that the president is not alone. they are swinging the game of name rob a. they're also saying that they will not tolerate in any steve or any of the web already been written there calling terrorist authors. but the business minister says that, for example, there's no possibility of extra dining. the former president was not from the united states where he is right now because he hasn't been charged with anything, at least not yet. whether the newly installed president of latin america's largest democracy will be strengthened or weakened by the m. s. of entered attack is too far from clear lucy and human al jazeera. so paolo, brazil is not the only country that seen
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a rise in far white in spite attacks or plots against it's a democratic institutions. one of the most prominent was in the united states on january the 6th 2021. more than 2000 supporters, a fuller president, donald trump, forced their way into the capital building, saying that the 2020 election was stolen in germany last month. authorities, said the destructor, a plot to overthrow the government, dozens of members of a fall by its group were arrested in coordinated police rates. and in spain, the far right vaux party has become the 3rd largest political force in parliament, challenging the traditional 2 party system. ah, for more on this i'm joined by our gas here in the studio or hammer sell car. we offer a professor of conflict resolution at george mason university in south paolo. jeremy
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casado is professor of political science at phone the so utility of august university and head of the far right of a 3 in brazil, a london were joined by in does it parma, professor of international politics at city university london. welcome. he's also the author of foundations or the american center. welcome to the program. g army. this is one of the biggest attacks on government building since the fall of the country's military dictatorship in 1985. how significant the stuff that we have seen on tv about those people forming government buildings. well, thank you for having the i'd say that business, they're actually the 1st big attack on brazilian physical institutions sold the buildings of the supreme court. congress and the presidential palace as well. well, i think it's the combination of 22 forces that both sonata has helped grow in
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brazil. the 1st one is very strong for right movement represented by boss and out of his supporters and the movement that has become more and more radicalized with time ball. so nato has transformed brazil into a laboratory for extremist ideas and tactics over the last 4 years. so most of what we saw on sunday is an emulation of things that have happened in united states for example, and in other parts of the world. things too far, right at the ologies. but we also have a very brazilian element to that, which is brazil's militaristic past. we see a lot of elderly in brazil, i mean, elderly writers who believe that the best times of their lives was under military rule, back in banking, sixties, and seventies. and even though this is very misleading, because of course, dictatorships are intrinsically problematic, they seem to want
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a government ruled by the military with both sonata as the chief leader as the, as the supreme leader of the country. so i think it's a problem because even though it was not a coo properly, it's signals to a very strong anti democratic leaning on the part of several boston out of supporters. hundreds or even thousands. okay. who warmth, the, the buildings on sunday mohammed who used to blame for the attack with food. ok, the 3 cases, brazil, germany and 2 years ago was the united states. i think one of the deep rooted causes is the fear among these right wing that they are losing social status on the west. for example, in the united states law wait for the return or at least crump could have stayed on the for years because he was their political savior. he is the one who is boosting
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. they are more on. and if we look at the other side to the coin, i a see that white folks, the wasps are fear in the triumph of these minorities. they are against multiculturalism, there against social diversity ethnic diversity. so i look at the white right wing as a collective action movement that these positioning itself beyond the limits or beyond the boundaries of democracy. in other words, if we translate what happened in brazil the 2 days ago is a contestation of the ballots. the role of the game, and therefore it's more of a reactionary attitude of these right wing as, than any visionary or any rational sense of politics. ok, in does it many would say that if there's any one to blame, it's definitely going to be jab both sonata for the simple reason of this is
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someone who spent false accusations about brazil's electronic system saying that this is vanessa. walter fought, he didn't unequivocally a can knowledge his defeat. he left the country on inauguration day. so this is the man who should be held accountable. do you agree with this? of course i think the way you framed it. of course jack dolphin r. o plays a major role in organizing, creating the conditions for and encouraging orchestrating it by not accepting the election outcome. but i think and medical says in the united states have done the same kind of thing around donald trump in 2021. but i think it'll be a mistake to focus it only on one individual. he's got a political party. there are people in the opposing political party or some support to him. he's very close to the paramilitary and military police forces on the, on the military itself. does your last because the business, big corporations,
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i've been funding the fermentation for renting the rebellions by the plastic bar right movements as well. so it's much more deeply systemic with in brazil with in the united states, germany and other countries as well. and i think would be a mistake to focus on the on pacific individual. okay. jeremy luna silver said that this is going to be his task unifying, a divided nation. how can i achieve that when the country is more divided than ever? well, i think it's a challenge that's not only going to last 4 years or 8 years. it's a task for a generation to accomplish. and it's going to be very hard for lula to, to pacify the country in the context of very deep divisions along different lines. i think that in the case of brazil, in particular, race doesn't play as much as strong role as religion, for example, or,
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or class. because what we saw on sunday is it was a revolution undertaken by the middle classes that have been in franchise over the last a couple of decades in brazil. lula has directed most of his social policies towards the poor in brazil so that the middle class and evangelical christians, in particular have felt out of this framework out of this social protection network in brazil. so in a way, in, i agree it's systemic. many think that both on ad who spoke on behalf of those who had no voice under the workers party administration. so it's going to be very hard for le le to reach out to these people. of course, there are some moderate boston out of orders that can be either co opted. we're convinced that lula might be a good option, but especially the most radical fringe of the ball sonata movement. that's going to be a challenge for lol, and for an entire generation of politicians to bring back into the political system
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mohammed since the very moment of the or the process to start storming the government buildings in, in, in brazil, people started to draw parallels between what happened what is happening there, and what happened back in the 2021 in the united states of america was donald trump, a factor in this particular appeal locally. what we're witness in now is global trump ism where riot, when good is now attack in all legitimate institutions. and by the way, it should not be a surprise for the bus 30 years. we've had this development of the radical social identity and the bush one. we had the conservatives then the became the neoconservative, then the tea party for a while. then we get to trump, where we see the most try. they can face. all right?
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when goes in the night says so since from manish to enter the white house he gave. right? when goes all over the would the hope that yes. right wing politics, madam and we should take action. and i think now when the are not happy with the outcome of the ballots, when you do, they are trying to destabilize this, that the country and brazil is not going to be the last case study. so we're looking at and delama of social identities that are no longer living under the same umbrella. it doesn't mother with your american or not, but what sub identity you are wearing or you are carrying with this is i think i need, we need the, i don't it, these theory as a key to understand what's going on in does that if this is a an ever changing political landscape. 70 years ago, we were told that the biggest threat to democracy was nazism and nazism and fascism
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than it was communism. 30 years ago we were told that terrorism is the biggest threat to watson democracy. can we say now that the biggest wet, existential threat to democracy in the west comes from within? i think the far right and extreme right wing pulses, which some of which are cystic. i think they are biggest. if you'd like, threat to the kind of democratic political systems and they're getting support from a very wide range of corporate forces, paramilitaries and political parties as well. but we also eat, took in a kind of political economy context to the growing levels of inequality. exclusion of ordinary people from politics, the economic prosperity in which people live. a lot of people on the right especially are mobilizing on a racial, really just ethnic or other bases. and defining the people very narrowly. because
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a source of demand of people in order to mobilize themselves for power. and by doing that, the fact they're not actually resolving any of the economic issues, that middle class and already working people, things. they're actually dividing the people out so that the big companies are big operations. and the real ruining leaps in effect can carry on with their programs of globalization. extreme in equality 1000000000 is having large amounts of economic, financial, and political power and try to hold on to that. but the mass of ordinary people, including middle class people, are in very, very difficult conditions in europe, in the united states, in brazil, india, and many other places. and these cultural goals for identity politics and extremely narrow character around race, religion or ethnicity are actually ways of fighting people, not solving any problems, but a large number of people to be mobilized behind those calls now for many decades. and that is a massive threat, which is if you like me to,
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for this after to take into account and to deal with. and i must admit that the liberal establishment liberals are not a very reliable ally in the fight against those kinds of far right or extremist forces. ok. and they very rarely bring to account the guy ringleaders of the kind of attempted insurrections and cose, jeremy, before the fun day attack jazz ball sonata was already facing for ongoing criminal probes, led by the supreme court justice alexander, do what i do see this event as a turning point that could push the government to us for what's another to be expedited to brazil. well, i think it's possible, even though the government, the incumbent government, the rule of the silver hasn't made any specific move to ask for both. so now was x prediction up until this point, and i think that the government fears that if they try to bring both sonata back
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into brazil, this is going going to stir even more violence in the streets because most of also not supporters at this point, especially those who have remained boston idol hardcore burleson, out of supporters, even after the defeat or in the tobar elections. i think that these, these groups tend to be very violent and they will react very violently to any measure that the current government wants to take. so i think that in the spirit of passive find the country, what lula present little is going to do is to investigate the crew mongers of sundays attacks. they are going to find the financing networks behind all the school longer is and again, most of them are elderly, middle class people, sometimes very humble. people that have been brainwashed by both scenarios,
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narratives and does information campaign on social media. busy so i think that the real issue here is who's behind these movements and whether these movements they have trans national connections with countries like the united states. so of course both. so now we're to blame and he will be held responsible at the end of the day. but i think that it's going to take a while before the government tries to bring both sonata to trial in brazil because that's a very disruptive element of brazilian politics, right? now, how much when you receive the united states of america and many other countries was quite striking, is that in all these cases, you see an unprecedented level of this information to forego, use social media platforms and sent long messages, the shape, the public opinion, and to create a delusional reality about what's happening. this pushes people to take action to scare me in a sense or another because of the thought that technology would help us. technology
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could be, it's not dangerous. it's not just technology, but it's also the magic of the narrative. so we have to narratives now that are colliding, that is the democratic, the narrative that we should respect all the institutions. the congress is a sacred institution for example, and then the count them out there, which is trump ism in various manifestations. so these guys still still the same, not at the forward a large number of americans, the right wing of still believe the from i may come back in 2024. so there is a golden myth growing in their heads that they can take revenge. and they can this stabilize the nation and then paved the way for the return of their political to savior. so it's still a very powerful narrative and i think january may become if we come and consider what happened in. but as it generally becomes the month of the chosen glory for
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this re a twin movement. so it says global, and i think it's going to spread. told examples. indices we've seen that the far right is gaining momentum in europe. do you think that there would be terminated to somehow pick the same playbook like in the us and brazil to advance their own political agenda or at least to enforce a political change? i think the extreme right, the bar, right, and a fascist take right. are already and very significant powerful positions within the european union. and the countries are, even if they are not necessarily in power. and we saw through the pandemic, many of the right wing forces peddling their conspiracy theories about the vaccines and believing around that and actually becoming very violent as well. and so the narrative is the, the country, their country, that they're the real people. their country has been sold to the u. n. w h whoa on foreigners or terrorists or refugees and minorities,
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and they want their country back. i'm not a big lie being peddled all the way through. and so i think that they are empowered by the authorities, bro. all other are not doing enough. and my brazilian colleague says that is to provoke a tape to arrest and expedite both to narrow people in the united states. and the democratic party said similar things of donald trump. but unless those ringleaders are actually taken and put it ought to book, i haven't the people who helped organize it and how deep it goes into the systems in each country. without that, they will remain a major threat in the next decade. also. okay, and the other thing of course is these are index donald issues as well because we have a war and ukraine and the threat of further war. and for example, over taiwan and b mobilize ation in that regard as well. so ok, i think there's a very dangerous time jeremy, what do you think would be the next step for president lola?
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particularly given the fact that we know that they are accusing of a governor of brazilian for not being tough on the protest. there is a growing concerned that the security apparatus in brazil has been a while. another with ball sonata with the military establishment remains a key component in society. and the protest, as i say, would like to see of a gover the ministry overpower well they are clear signs of complicity on the part of the military and security forces, especially in the city, the capital city of brazil. you who have apparently allowed protesters to break into the public buildings of congress supreme court in the presidential palace. so one of the big challenges for lula right now, even though i think he, he leaves this this event. he leaves this whole situation a little bit stronger than he entered because his reaction was very swift. s e. been claire at federal intervention in brazil. ya. but i think that he will face
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challenges regarding to the specific ministries which are the ministry of defense and the ministry of justice. the minister of the fans was responsible for controlling the military, the armed forces. they have fall in under civilian control 25 years ago. it was an attempt to prevent the military from becoming political actors in brazil. we have a track record of military involvement in politics that has led us into military long standing military dictatorships in brazil. so also not having powered the military to become political actors all over again. and lula will have to push the military back into the their headquarters. that's going to be difficult, especially because the minister of the fans is a well known both. so not a supporter who entered the cabinet of lula because of a party, accommodations, and of course lula will have to deal with the local, the state based security forces. he had a meeting yesterday with 27 governors,
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the all the 27 governors of brazil. and apparently he was a very positive meeting because he had, he was able to convince these governors that they have. they are responsible for controlling the security forces, who tend to take sides with blanket motto, who have turned the blind eye to many things that have happened in brazil. these 2 are very important challenges for jeremy casado is mom, but somehow in that sheet, i really appreciate your insight. thank you and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. got our facebook page that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha insights, or you can also join the conversation on twitter. i'll have that. is that a j insights sort of on the entire team here in the ha ah
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