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this is out there and these other top stories russian forces have launched missiles at cities across ukraine, including the capital keith. at least 12 people died and 60 were injured in the city than the prof, where rockets destroyed 2 residential buildings. rescue workers are searching for survivors. it's ayesha butler has more from keith athena, a number of russian attacks in different parts of the country. there are our ongoing air raid alert systems also in most of southern ukraine. here in keith though it is a bit more quiet. we certainly though, had a different picture this morning. we heard needy, 5 very distinct explosions as we later found out were strikes at key infrastructure in the city, according to local authorities. thousands of to near since have rallied in the capital tunis calling for the resignation. the present case side demonstration mark
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12 years since to news in protest, as spot arb spring uprisings around the region. the white house lawyer says another batch of classified documents have been found that the private residence of us present joe biden, which had saba says the white house will cooperate with the special council appointed to investigate. thousands of people have demonstrated in tel aviv against plans by the new israeli government to overhaul the judicial system. they say plans by prime minister benjamin netanyahu, the far right administration could we can the supreme court you case withdrawing. it's ambassador from iran after toronto execute the british, iranian national. and he, reza at barry, a former deputy defense minister, was convicted of spying for british intelligence. for the, so forth with climate protest is in western germany, the latest demonstrations against expansion of a coal mine. thousands of people gathered near the abandoned village of the rich wrath which is set to be demolished, to make way for the facility. and the man who was in charge of security in brazil's
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capital, when government buildings were stormed last sunday, has been arrested after returning from the u. s. anderson torres served as justice minister on the former president, giant bull sanara. and is facing allegations of collusion with a riotous there's all the headlines and ease continues. haron, obviously that's after inside stores. ah, in turns fighting around the town of sola dar, in eastern ukraine wash and military advances are being claimed and denied. why have both sides battle so fiercely over this area?
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and does it mark a new phase in the war? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully back table. ukraine has refuted russian claims its captured the eastern town of solid r. whatever the true fighting has been intense around what is europe's largest salt mine. nearly all of the small towns, $11000.00 inhabitants have left and almost everything above ground is destroyed. so why has this battle been so fierce and does it signal a change in how this war is being fought? we'll be discussing this and more with our guests in just a few minutes. but 1st 2 reports from ukraine and russia. ali hush him in moscow explains this bottles connection to a different one with then russia establishment. before that,
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we hear from charles stratford, who spent a day with ukrainian special forces in back would close to solid r ukrainian defensive positions west of the front line city of buff mote. russian infantry are slowly advancing into northern and eastern residential areas over the hill. the center of town is almost completely destroyed. the streets are virtually deserted. oh, the blasts of exploding artillery and rockets is almost constant. soldier with the ukrainian special forces leads us to their bunker. warm dark tunnels, lined with weapons, and ammunition boxes. drones feed, real time, video of russian infantry movement only a kilometer and a half away. they have a lot of manpower sol, as is st. every dance, it looks like a ways, so we cannot stop every time because we have less guys. and unfortunately,
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we also lost a lot of guy said this moment men rest before their next mission, often close combat were trenches are only 20 meters apart. commanders insist, we hide their identities and don't film landmarks nearby. the could give their positions away. i want to preserve molina hopeful as a child. they split into small groups in order to avoid artillery, and they infiltrate to residential areas and tree lines. but they also suffer huge casualties. grammar, military intelligence from our western partners is often not distributed to as quickly enough on the front lines where we needed to target command centers, logistics hobbs and weapons depos. the shelling is getting closer his mean an intensification of shelling in the last few minutes. the soldiers
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here are telling us that up to 600 russian soldiers are moving into new positions. in a northeast of the city, we climbed the stairs of destroyed residential building. smoke rises from fresh strikes, a few streets away, close to russian hill sections of town. what remains of the lives of people who fled the fighting lines abandoned and destroyed home. russian forces a gradually surrounding boss. mote from solider. around 15 kilometers to the north, to villages in the southeast, strangling what little remains of life here as the ukrainian army prepare new lines of defense. chance drafted al jazeera of mort. it's the moment moscow has been waiting for visual ambulatory order. the capture of saddam became possible thanks to the continuous strikes and the positions of the armed forces of ukraine
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by russian air force missiles and artillery. moscow hope solid. our will be a stepping stone to another strategic ukrainian city. rosalind, i think that only after the liberation of bach moore, it will an offensive operation be prepared to help complete the liberation of the net from ukraine. soda opens the way for from military units to chrome at oscar. this is the largest city of the da nets people's republic, still held by ukrainian nationalists. what does another battle going on? this one inside the russian establishment over there all mercenaries? from the wagner group, late in capturing solid on the group hosted on the celebrant shallow stake within the form of an answer to question, accusing some officials of trying to steal its victory, was threatening the only fight this prison in the button for solid. there were wagner, the ministry of defense later issued a statement confirming that wagner's role was essential in the battle for solid off
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a passcode to recover. wagner is not registered in russia. we do not have a law on private military companies. therefore, apparently the military is trying not to mention wagner is part of the group that performs the tasks of the special military operation. of course, this is very insulting to the wagner fighters, and the case is also about the jealousy of some generals. and as russia attempts to capture more cities, the echoes of the battle in moscow for the heart and mind of vladimir putin may be heard the battlefields in ukraine. alisha 0 more scores of, ah, well as bringing our guest now for today's show from odessa in ukraine, micheal boise q. he is a senior fellow at the atlantic council from moscow, a sag markov who is the director of the institute of political studies and a former spokesman for present vitamin protein and from bath patrick piri,
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a senior defense antiquity lecture at the university of bath in a former british army officer and former nato analysts. thank you gentlemen, for being with us on inside. sorry. welcome, michael, let me start with you in odessa, if i can, the ukrainian guffman disputes, the claim that the russians are in control of solid are how big of a setback would it be for ukraine if the russians indeed were in control of this sort of a town right, well 1st of all, the russians are making as much for the bigger deal than it is. the, the status of solar doors still very, very much up in the air. how do we know that from correspondents who are there on the front line and from ukrainian service men who have given comments to foreign media? i think from the russian side solider has much more information or propaganda value than actual strategic value. after a humiliating losses on the bout and filled included, including lutheran, come on, they need some type of when no matter how small to be able to feed to their russian
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public. and especially to those warhawks to those the russian bloggers, her giving actually the prominent top time now the ukranian side, it should be said that, you know, they don't look at this war as the human meat grinder, like the russia. ready do when there are threats to, to their men and women, they do call back at bad. and they made that clear because human life, unlike on the russian side, they say is to be valued. one last thing, if i may on this, is that it is a very, very long frontline intent to move perhaps 50 or a few 100 meters one way the other day by day. so there's a long way to go before anyone can claim having taken over solider. alright, let's ask, fair gay in moscow, why solider is such a big deal for russia? why has so much man power, including mercenaries, fed a been brought on to this area? so does that are not important for us. just what we should understand. russian
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government is saying is a truth. keep it super easy and is like, well muscles and data not important for me to, to the point of your job is not, i'm always in the military point of view. why are they sending so many troops into into solid di, including mercenary from the wagner group? oh, medicine that it from walking to work, if i think and different regions in dunbar. and then other regions for daughter is very important. politically. for why do you me, is it empty? because i really admitted that a capacity. ukrainian army is great that not by your grades, but by health or where some conscious but wisdom council wants to give health to the suspects. you can nominate. that's why it's very important political will like me to put you in to sure that you're creating and i mean you're going warmer and
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losing co c t after be bought. if, because i fail up a little bay la or provide me in the face or she is with them. let, why didn't you send a dozen? or you can your soul just to fight for such small cds. i started out and bought and read the law doesn't sounds crazy and our soldiers dying was these small features, which particularly means almost emitted, fitted or military appoint. gimme is almost nothing but a witness. i bet it important for video. okay. because it's important because it is becoming important for school and to crash video. let's bring in patrick barry and bath for your thoughts on this. about the significance of solid and back modes from se solid as figure was saying,
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there is of no significant militarily to russia. it's more related to russian domestic politics. what are your thoughts on, on this battle and how is unfolding? yeah, i'd agree with sir. i, i'm not actually michael is saying the same thing to do. the key thing is here, look at the noises coming out of the kremlin and the, the videos being trying to float the internet from the wagner group. there's always to be serious discourse amongst their we know some about the power struggles between ag are awesome all. and the general in charge now of the whole operation. it goes in a seraphic in and, and it seems to be that essentially this is a by not fighting a battle in the way that you would over a strategic objective. this is about sending russian troops into a meat grinder to be killed, to meet some sort of political infighting about the conduct of the war and who should be the head honcho on the ground. so that's my reading of it. essentially. i
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think i look once once once and both sides start to take a serious man to casualties. insignificant objectives can become more significant because there's a bloat. and there's a, there's a basically a blog treasure which is being spent and it becomes more significant. but i still think and that this solid are really, doesn't matter and significant, even if you zoom them up out, over bar, moot, it doesn't matter massively. and i don't agree with the idea that this is a big, big issue for zalinski in terms of nato support nato, as we know as a defensive organization. if ukraine would start to lose city after city, that nature would actually open up. it says support. i would imagine so i don't think really it has an optical or a heavy way on nato allies. and it's also interesting to note that the u. k is just said it's going to send a challenge or 2 times to you grain. so watch this space and a let's, let's allow segue to respond to that. say gay patrick says, you know, russia is fighting for politics here for political in fighting a rather than
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a strategic care plan when it comes to salad. died and back to what is your response to that for the missing for the 6 as a know need this to saying they fit enough because why do you me to which i did and also made it to our power all russia pooly depend on russian capacity rational society and because i mean it's rational, domestic politics. it's no, so of course society one time, very much russian army to go. all right, then deliberate more and more. you can see just not on the done yes. can look on them, but also article that's another rational that if it's in the united nation, say that it clear with last night the ball with an option demands russia. the mom was that it should be no threat to russian security department, you know. and also that often speaking,
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people should have went to go and social rights ins. ukrainian did it today as well, if it's will be, bye, bye, bye bye. and you can say russia will be happy to do it. but if that some countries will continue to see the threat from speaking, people should be 2nd kind of the citizens with no right to speak native language or russia. we'll get to zap roles by boss. all right, and let's bring in michael in ukraine to respond to that. we heard there from say gay rushes and games in his you, when it comes to this war and ukraine, ukraine's then game in this conflict is the restoration of its territory to free 2014 borders. i want to know, michael, whether, you know, the russians are becoming a more formidable force right now for the ukraine on the ground in close quarter. fighting with more, you know, as we've heard, wagner, a group mercenaries involved in the conflict. how difficult is it for ukraine to
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defend its positions right now? yeah, well 1st of all, what's coming out of his mouth is complete. nonsense. if indeed, the russians cares when i talk about the security, the protection of russian speakers here in ukraine. why are russian speaking cities being bombed? like how to kill, for example, like other cities and just in your grand i hear from ukraine is who are russian speakers come from that region? they can understand the russian mentality on this. but, you know, when we think about it, the russians have put very low value on life. so that's why that's happening. and in terms of the russian fighting strategy you referred to. well, right now, as i said here, ukraine is under a nationwide missile attack right now from the russian side. that's the only way they know how to fight is not icon bad with, with their opponent. but with these long range missed those that are very destructive. so trying to weaponized winter, trying to damage ukrainian infrastructure,
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i think come what we're going to see going forward over the next days and weeks is quite the pivot probably from the ukraine inside on the front line. and a big reason for that fully will be because of the it will take some time, but the addition of these tanks looked good challenger to post cold war for the generation tank. and also the other fighting vehicles provided by europe. also via the added training, things like that, but one more thing quickly is i think between now and the one year anniversary in the middle of february, russia will try to launch quite amounts of salt. ready know there modality. ok, let's allow to respond to that figure. we had heard michael say that the russians have a low value on life. they using mercenaries made up performer convicts, and they don't really care about losing these men on the battlefield. what do you respond to that? it just life? i think what we have now so immediately
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a defense me to so was conscious of course we cannot trans position permission during the civil about going into my evolution. my understanding for russian, army and citizens. if you create our people, we want you to put to many time told that we are the ones that people use some kind of cedric walk inside rational people. you may know that as my own. if russia these people, it's people. why is it bombing cities that are occupied by, by it? no, no, she's lying. she's like russia never die. get to see beauty and i need because i see to you like a brand. i keep it just a 100 percent. that new and that's it. okay, a lot of control, it's patrick. i'll bring you in on an army where the russian bombing concentrated
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and so you know, that's also a reality we're talking about here. so i don't know how we can continue debate with someone with an alternative reality. you know, i, i, you know, to come back to, sorry, guys 1st point is he well knows, just because you're a russian speaker doesn't mean you make you any less ukrainian according to the referendum and all the polling that was conducted. you can be a russian speaker, and i was heavily diminishing as you'd imagine, and also feel pro ukrainian. so of course there's some small segments of the population still do feel russian, but it isn't smaller than i was. and so i don't think that even that argument holds if you're going to say that the russians have a bombard kid and car, if i die like i can't have a debate with someone about that, it's clear to everybody. ok, let me, let me ask you patrick, about recent military shakeup we've seen in russia, and how do you think it's going to change the conflict this military shake up. we've seen within the russian army and as general it awesome. all of appointment. do you think held a new face in the conflict?
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is a few ways of looking at it and again, is that internal dynamics? what is it that he is being put in there because you broke it, you know, you just destroyed are pretty much destroyed. are conventional army with brain plan for taking a massive country. i know you fix it. yeah. or was, are all the king becoming too powerful with a direct line to put in a knife where they moved in to get rid of them? i agree with michael. i think we can expect to see, you know, a 100000 st party trains. recently mobilized russian troops being, you know, pushed into an attack somewhere and we'll have to see hopefully the ukrainians can repel us. but wouldn't be surprised if they have to give ground in places. and really this is about the summer volley these times, which hopefully comment line. the british announcement is all about pushing the germans. the germans need to get their finger right. they've got, they're the ones with the lap are 2 times. there's lots of them in europe. the challenge are 2 different logistics change there in the u. k. it's, it's, it's a gesture. it's support gesture, but i need a you say, a patrick,
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what's the end game for the west in arming ukraine with more offensive weapons? we've heard about the u. k, announcing the tanks today. find says, well, what is the end game of the west? so i was just coming on to this, so i think the tanks on the armored infantry fighting vehicles are by creating an armored brigade for ukraine that can be used on the summer in kendra offences. i'd expect to ukrainian tender offensive this summer is what i'm thinking. who knows how to successfully be the russians about a long time to prepare defensive lines. and there's a few things about modern warfare. we're waiting to find out such as how to precision guided munitions, work against trenches and defenses in depth, which is different from what we've seen them so far. so yeah, it remains to be seen, but we definitely got another summer of fighting coming at least. all right, so again, my coffee in moscow, we are nearing the one year and advised anniversary of this russian invasion. what are russians plans, you know, for solid are and beyond after
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a consolidated it's control of this area? or she'll just say what i should say to, you may know from geography that trash is, is the biggest conference was intending to, to kill. i mean, just what russia and read you feel so call to a bit 8 people in your grade was also ukrainian. take a leave. this would believe that you create and then the rest would be transcript. and in one that cannot make unions to be liberated from ukraine. yes. but isn't as to be a law please political campaigning for getting political section and majority, you get empowerment. it means that you can still be democratized, and eventually been, you know, it's what russian army is fighting carports. that's why it's very much for me to, to the point of view. i agree with my colleagues that was on,
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i just expect that rational. i mean, well, i attempt to go forward ins, and those are we in tests and ukrainian army, but appearing to by western muslims to be ready for that. i think it gives me in the middle of supreme and now it's a muslim, is ation, the ukrainian in u. k. and it, and also i think a lot of offensive we've been that it was a you could any and i mean so ok, we're, we will see as a result would be that we will really because for, from our side is true. okay. michael in ukraine. this been a substances change in the type of weaponry the us and its allies are providing ukraine. how will this been? how do you see the conflict evolving in the next few months as we near the one year anniversary of the russian invasion?
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sure. i'll answer that, but just quickly to a point, it may be radically a big country in the world. but why is it that they have to possibly to port hundreds of thousands of ukrainian children and women and men to rush shops? why is it that they have to set lines of russian troops behind those complex fighting for wagner group and others to shoot them? if they start running back from the cranium front lines that, that would be a good question for him to answer. but i think in terms of what we're going to see going forward is there's a very big difference now in terms of western support for ukraine's up or i think the, the leaders in the western capitals, i've grown the spine to send these main battlefield tanks and very heavy duty fighting vehicles, but also there's a realization told me that this is no longer a war limited to ukraine. russian missiles have violated model, been aerospace, not far from here. a, by the way, many times our missile fragments have fallen into poland plus the not kind of fact
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of the migration of the. ready weapon as ation of food weapons ation of energy. so to kind of my main point here is that there is a realization in these western capital is that if mister putin and his forces are not pushed back now for good, that russia will tempt grabs on ukraine again and surrounding territory and attacked other nato countries as well, so they should have done it earlier. there were a lot of warnings, but finally, i think the tide turned. and i don't think, given the rocks and the d product and corruption on the russian side, they're having to mobilize, come back. so homeless people that they have much chance against what. ready awaiting. ready right now. ok gentlemen, we will need it. they are unfortunately, we are running out of time. thank you so very much for a very interesting discussion. michael berser i q 2nd my. com and patrick barry, thank you very much for joining us and thank you to for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for
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