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is also the quality of education did wrappings. how come to every monday the 1st sight to when i look on the head of my window is the view of said tim. and it's beautiful landscape in high infinities and they don't it's own a liz, me in the space of hopelessness and feeling rejected by the government. did they resort believe? but also i think one can help but have mixed feelings. or whenever you look at that conditions as when you have an element of feeling, hope there's a bit of hope that, that, that comes to your mind. knowing that those people who come from l eggs who are now living in center. and we are hopeful that one day new and our present onside will one day, a end up living in those areas. ah,
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madrid say that the city spends the least amount per person on primary health care and is favoring private health providers. with the proposed cuts. regional authorities deny the claim and say the strikes and rallies are being organized by opposition. parties in the run up to local elections. those are the headlines. the news continues here on al jazeera, after inside story. thanks for watching. ah, a sales democracy, thousands of tennesseans have been protesting against what they say is a dictatorship and an unprecedented economic crisis. but can the anger make
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a difference? how's it been viewed in the region? this is inside story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle major rallies in the tune. izzy in capital protesters say the president is reversing political freedoms gained more than a decade ago. that's when the arabs spring lead the outlets. the ousting of the former president, thine l aberdeen ban. ali ann sparked uprisings across the arab world. this time, june is ins accused present kai site of orchestrating a power grab and for the weakening the economy, or a con reports protesters, like how be booking the avenue in the heart of tuna. oh,
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they want president haste, lead out of power. the streets had long been states for political change. 12 years ago, protest grew here, spread across the country, and within weeks, totally long time. president vinny and nobody been, i mean, oh, no opposition. groups that have long been rivals have unified, include the national salvation from coalition and the free constitution party. on the anniversary of the revolution they are more united than ever before. and that a lot of progress has been made in this particular point. the way out is quite simple, or is it is actually a dialogue, a national dialogue between stakeholders in this country and national are, were presented to offer different oh,
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many thaws and attempt to play kate the protesters. the president attended to rally on friday. one man shouted to him, they're hungry. the country isn't an economic crisis. inflation is thawing, jobs scarce. and $1900000000.00 bailout from the international monetary fund is being discussed. but with many concerned, the country is becoming more authoritarian. the united states may block it last month, parliamentary election, thought 11 percent of vote, of course ballot. it was meant to reshape the legislature to solve for the president of the thief. executive powers in july 2021. ah, but now k said is under pressure from growing opposition groups and anger on the street. la hon. alta theorem. well, let's take a quick look at what's happened engineer since the arab spring in 2011. the moderate as lammas party and arda dominated parliament for the 1st 10 years until
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2019 and was then voted out. and kai said voted in as president fine. soon sacks has government and suspended parliament in 2021. awarding himself powers to rule by decree. in june 2022, he fired dozens of judges. the rest of the gesture he went on strike. in july, a widely boycotted referendum past a new constitution written by side which strengthened the present see and weakened parliament, wide spread opposition to sides. reforms was evident in a record low turn out of voters, just 11 percent and parliamentary elections in december. only 21 of 161 seats were filled. a 2nd round will be held on the 23rd of january. ah, over more on this, but let's go now to our guests and in tunis, terry color. we coolness and former director of the true institute of strategic
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studies in brussels. he has mean a creamy research analysts focusing on north africa, the brussels international center, and also in tunis is i mean, sanusi, political analysts and journalists covering junior and north africa. very warm, welcome to all of you. i mean, let's start with you because you were at these protests yesterday. what was the mood like? who was that them? well, i was the brute that yesterday. and it was a bit different from the for the participated in, in the last few months with them we can, we can see that there is a lot of people coming fro, economic reasons, just as we've heard the report there are people struggling to find find food to find the jobs to find any form of economic stability and those people have been motivated to go to the streets and protests. so this is the main difference, not just with the previous protect the mood, the protest was,
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was the critic to mystic really because people are hoping for a change in the, in the next few weeks in the next few months because people believe that sides regina has been voted out really by the last election there. recall the rico little turnout is approved for them that they read the a form of a position to the president's regime. so there was this optimistic mood and plus the, the difference between this brought this up yesterday and the process has been held throughout the 2 years. the change, the regime is that there was different board school organizations protesting in the same time. there was the 3 in part, yet everything. there was some vision from the book, but i've been you, but there was also the left if we give you 5 or just from the left of the,
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of the group together. so there was like this form of general opposition and, and people from all different who to go. i diligence coming to the against the president. ok. a terica prince for you in the state at this point because i want to know this optimism is well placed. is there a strong enough opposition to kind said to bring about change in the next few weeks or months as protested hope? actually the short answer is no, there is no enough. i don't think that we have seen yesterday's procedures that i cited even though i site is heading into a political and economic crisis, especially his roadmap is going through a crisis. so what we have is a general crisis, really a, it was holding the loan power in since july 5, 2021. but also the attendance. i would disagree with the idea that yesterday
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was an opportunity for 1st the unified friends. it was not in my view, it was the 2 major political position groups submission of front, mainly by another. and the social justice friend, we're always trying to do with the police was always trying to distinguish between them, sent them into different sections of the avenue yesterday. they were almost at the same place, but they were basically something different. put messages, the left, the social democrats were basically saying, guess he was all that the problems at the same time by side and the islamist, i don't think that was a message a few medication yesterday. the same. the other point that they were in the he was that yesterday, it was mainly people with the economic backgrounds are the main difference,
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is that people with coming to because of economy, basic problems. i would say that yesterday it was again, that the most station of the political, political activists, mainly rather than people coming from main street with economic and social problems that i think the main difference. however, between what happened yesterday and as it was stations, is that the political angle is good. and when they would say of numbers, i would venture into a specific numbers. but they would say it was that down we went maybe from city to 4000 the prior to more stations to yesterday, maybe 7000 or more than that shows the political activists or, and mass in worse than before. but at the same time, they're not able, in my view to connect to the main street social through the station that
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was actually in danger. and what i decided was matt i, yesterday was basically looking for was going to happen during the night the night before the night after. that's where you can see this, what we can call the social studies be activated, but it was really very limited. right. i mean, in may neighborhoods we did not see major demonstrations during the my test shows that it's a little bit early to say that the city is, the main of opposition is coming from the political side. yes. mean, just how much support do these political activists have? how do they unify if we look at the labor union in tennessee, as the credit be powerful, it's thinking it has joined forces with the bar association and which is his main human rights organization. can they align themselves than with a political party to join up this opposition against chi site and then bring about
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change that people want the initiative that is, that is led by the bar council and b, b for human rights. and the labor union is basically a call for dialogue call for dialogue with a call for dialogue between political parties and civil society organizations and with the president. so they know that if they include political parties, the president will not respond favorably to the initiative. in my opinion, in your opinion of every observer and of chinese and politics. the prison i find will not be released to any type of initiative for a dialogue or anything like that. and honestly, i am very, i do not think to leave him believe that a dialogue would would, would resolve anything. we got the noble price for 2014, i guess for, for, for a national dialogue. but at the end of the day, i think,
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created unnatural and politically confused. coalition that did not lead to anything but the crisis we are going through at the moment. so no, i don't think, for example, the labor union is very strong, political, stakeholder and social stakeholder, but they're not a political party. they're not going to enter an opposition directly with, with president pine because they're not in themselves a political alternative or counterpart. so no, i know, but i think all and national conditions are not talking about political parties, but the national organizations are still hoping that the president will respond favorably to a call for dialogue parties. all of that, you know, across ideological backgrounds. all of them agree that the, the problem comes from, from the president, by side consulting from his refusal to engage when with any type of stakeholder
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really, and from on a be sure, and competence enrolling the country since 2019. now we're talking about the 25th of july 2021. that was the pool, but he is in power since 2019. and what has he done for the country? we're not sure. and i'm not talking. i don't think i'm just finishing with that. i'm not saying that it was better before or before we're doing much better, but i'm talking with and talking about it didn't have all progress is and is the 1st time really the 2011. but a president concentrate all powers and haven't done much with all these prerogatives. yeah, i mean that's, that's a great point, isn't it? because i says that she is in needed, or it does need a strong lead us attack or corruption to fight the political stagnation that it's offered in the 10 years after the arab spring. but he hasn't tackled either of those things and he hasn't achieved a way out. fortune is yeah. what's happened?
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yeah, i think this is what's giving me the most about the, about the situation because i came in with a lot of big promises social justice, tackling the corrupt system and getting rid of corruption, that very big promises that, that people believed and people believed. and when he made his crew in july 2001 people were on the street, changing his name is reporting. and that's scary because the disappointments that we are going to find and we are finding right now the people is making them leading them to few just belief in the political system curious, belief in politics. and that's what, what is the scary. and i think what i side has done is shift the blame, showed the responsibility since 2019 1st. it was the parliament, then it was the justice. and then when he got rid of everything that limits his power has was, as you've been just said,
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he's the strongest presidents we ever had since 2011 and it didn't do anything with it. now it is the time that people are going to realize that that, that he wasn't, that he wasn't working towards their interests. he was looking towards his, it's personal gain, his personal bowers and, and that's what scares me the most. the disappointments in the school feel the or are feeling people talk at this stage given the chin as yet is suffering from an incredibly di, economic situation. what the people want that do they want to more chrissy or are they happy to put up with the current status quo if they have a better quality of life if they can feed their families if they can send the children to school, if at the prospects of good jobs, what do people want? most of all, i think after all of these years since 2011,
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very problematic the mechanics transition that actually did not bring a lot of economic and social reforms, which was the main reason why there was a revolution in the 1st place. you have so many people really the semester a when it happens in tunisia, i would say you have a mixed reaction. you might, we might say that many people are still basically, they still believe that we should have process of democracy. but they would say there are a lot of people in the case number of people who would say we need mainly economic social reforms, even though it's going to happen the non democratic means. and they would say the problems of some of the base with a sigh is not. that is not because he's not delivering it. and this is going to be the main problem. one of the major challenges to follow really closely what's going to happen with the agreement with because this is an indication of how
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a science where your food is highly problematic. so in the beginning he sent his government that he will shape with mainly liberal reforms. basically, there are 3 of the government of the state, the economy, but then just few weeks after signing the stuff level, getting them in the tories started basically opposing main sections. the major sections of the agreement, especially the privatization of state own, come on a guy say he's, he's not in the process of doing good. why is he? he's failed. he has failed. he's lost the support of the people. he's lost the support of the international community. he's failed democracy, as far as he saw it as far as soon as he has been so far has failed. well, we have to make a difference between our democracy favor the last 10 to 12 years and the process of failure. and i would say if i cited, i don't think that he's out of
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a support. they think his own, unfortunately the main and say, leaving with what he's saying on a delivery happening. i mean, the main question is the other process is the cases of the affirmative, the main political figures of lead. i'm not able to get the nice people that i'm, i'm afraid that the, i think that that is going to be more even more populous or more of a story i. this is something to watch, especially for the major economic and financial problems and not resolved with weeks and months. yes. mean what, what are your thoughts here? is, is case out of support. does he still have some support? has he failed? what can yield tentative bearing? there are a lot of big questions here as to what happened. should he go? i think there is a distinction to be made between b, a has lots of support from the international community and from a local political stakeholders. that's
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a thing. yes. and he completely lost support from that, from the very beginning, from, you know, taking over all powers. he lost the support of the international and the, the national community. but when you're talking about using people, and you're seeing polls, for example, his still maintaining high levels of support. and again, this is not because people are endearing to, to, to his policy. but because there is a, an absolute lack of alternative, a viable alternative. also of new faces, but again, just going back to the idea of do we do chinese ians want democracy? are still democracy? do they want economic justice? the premise is one cannot go without the other. and i think a lot of to use in understand that the, the idea that, again remembering why the chinese revolution happened in 2011, it was mainly economic demands at the, at the beginning in economic demands. based on the idea that, you know,
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retiring regimes cannot deliver on economic justice with this is again the same thing and for side, i wouldn't agree that he's not delivering where he's, i mean he's not delivering on things. he delivering a deal of the ins and not managing to go on with the deal. it's been months now. the deal was that was was meant to be cooked in march and with money was meant to come in march. we're, we're in january 2023. you know, having, you know, shortages and complete with consecutive churches and conveys the commodities a pe rocketing inflation. these are results. he's not, not delivering, this is in itself, speaking for, for his policy and basically be the complete contradiction between his, this 4th and very less this popular discourse. and then he delivering on basically
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very harsh new liberal policy. what i mean, what, what support does you get from outside of the country? he something is popping him up from outside the country. i think i love the support since he's since it's cool. i think it is very difficult for, for an actress to deal with someone without having a clear on the, on the next few years. and what they are seeing from the outside is that side is doing with point 6 day to day in his is doing an improv class of point 6 in geneva is just basically changing whatever part of the system doesn't, doesn't present their gender. and that's what, what scares or what drives the way for an actress that's really not support to someone with no me rather the ability plus i side also has a double a double double position when it comes to poor in actors the he always says that
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there is too much for an influence in trinity is very critical of, of students with countries, etc, etc. but at the same time is asking for deal. he's asking for very nearly brew deals with the i met with the or the bank and etc, etc. so he's really is hopefully it's characterized by this relationship with for the next topic. we'll of course we've got other well, thor, terry, and actors in the regional area, the egypt, the u. a, they're all going to be watching pretty closely. what happens in june is yes, they have done since the arabs spring, which sounds really fun dough. what. what do you think that view is val with well, let me 1st say, i mean that i don't think that we have an authoritative regime now. i would say we have a semi with not allow yesterday's demonstrations
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. it's a hybrid, probably magazine. this is totally true with so many populous leaders who have these kinds of se, might authoritarian hybrid systems. this is what we have to media. secondly, with regards to the i tech support, i disagree with the a a off the g 7. i think he still has an active support, the fuel being actors, especially the financial we parents and especially with the background of a legal obligation and with the french are very interested in having a stable situation and to me. and because there is no key to visit or they would be fine. now with does not mean that they're happy with him, but they don't see a viable or that would be a reason why they would robbie for tenicia government i side to get. and i am
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actually getting, actually there is a lobby with us to, to get a even now to get it to me. and i am f agreement when he goes to washington. us is a little bit skeptic, maybe with the but i don't think they have an approach a fraction with ray. again, what's going to happen, especially with the possible alternative to him with regards to the regional regional actors. i would say the idea that they're basically an alliance with does not mean they not can. but clearly that is a clear, basically a relationship between the 2 different levels of actors. i wouldn't say that when you see a g,
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but it's basically under a gene a jumping and we have run out of time. unfortunately, we could be a lot more about this. and hopefully we will, again, in the coming weeks and months revisit, you know, it's a fascinating development in a fantastic country. i'm not many thanks to all our guests. eric kalauia. yes. mean a creamy and i mean it's a new see for joining us today and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again, any time by visiting a web site that's out there a dot com and for further discussion to go to a facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash ha. inside story. we're going to join the conversation on twitter, handle it at ha, inside story from me laura kyle: and the whole team here is bye for now. ah
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