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for the 1st time in 25 years. also calling for higher taxes on the rich ukraine's president of all of them is the landscape condemned what he calls the cowardly silence of russian falling and miss alt drive that killed. 35 people in the rescue. workers have been looking through the rubble to find dozens of people, phil missing to days on from the attack. pictures because she tomorrow she would like to address all those in russia or from russia who have failed to say a few words to condemn this terror. even now, even though they perfectly see and know everything, your cowardly silence your attempt to wait out what is happening will only end with the same terrorists coming to get you one day. and then denise, her father began over a stamp that killed a 135 people at a football match. in october 2022 was one of the world dead via sporting disasters, 3 police officers and to match organizes a charged with criminal negligence,
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causing death. hundreds of millions of people are on the move in china in time for the lunar new year. despite fears, a further covey 19 outbreaks. health authorities of announce maybe 60000 hospital deaths in the past 5 weeks. both the headlines news continues after inside story. stay with us here on al jazeera. ah.
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ah ah, oh, a failed democracy. thousands of tennesseans have been protesting against what they say is a dictatorship and an unprecedented economic crisis. but can the anger make a difference? how's it being viewed in the region? this is inside story. ah.
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hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. major rallies in the tennessee and capital protesters say the president is reversing political freedoms gained more than a decade ago. that's when the arabs spring let the outlets, the ousting of the former president, thine l. aberdeen ban ali and spunk, uprisings across the arab world. this time, june is ins accuse present kai site of orchestrating a power grab and further weakening the economy. or a con reports. ah, protesters like hobby boogie, the avenue, and the hot tuna they want present a fleet out of power. the street long been state for political change. 12 years ago, protest grew here, spread across the country, and with him weeks toppled long time president. vinny albertine benner lee. oh,
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no opposition. groups that have long been rivals have unified and they include the national salvation front coalition and the free constitution party on their anniversary of the revolution down more united than ever before. and that a lot of progress has been made in this particular point. and the way out is quite simple or is it is actually a dialogue, a national dialogue between stakeholders in this country and national at were presented to also a bit different. but it was yeah, it will many thaws and attempt to placate the protestors. the president attended to rally on friday. one man shouted to him, they're hungry. the country isn't an economic crisis. inflation is thawing. jobs the skiff, and $1900000000.00 bail anthony in special monetary fund, is being discussed. but with many concerned,
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the country is becoming more authoritarian. the united states may block it last month, parliamentary election, thought 11 percent of vote of cost ballot. it was meant to reshape the legislature to solve for the president of the thief, executive powers in july 2021. ah, but now k. i said it's under pressure from growing opposition groups and anger on the streets, nor hon. i'll to theorem let's say a quick look at what's happened. the engine is here since the arabs spring in 2011, the moderate islamic policy and ardor dominated parliament for the 1st 10 years until 2019 and was then voted out. and i said, voted in as president st. soon. sacks has government and suspended parliament in 2021. awarding himself powers to rule by decree. in june 2022, he fired dozens of judges. the rest of the gesture he went on strike. in july,
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a widely boycotted referendum past a new constitution written by side which strengthened the presidency and weakened parliament. widespread opposition to sides reforms was evident in a record low turnout of voters, just 11 percent and parliamentary elections in december. only 21 of 161 seats were filled. a 2nd round will be held on the 23rd of january. ah, over more on this, let's go now to our guests and in tunis, terry color. we coldness and former director of the true in institute of strategic studies in brussels, yazmin, a creamy research analysts focusing on north africa, the brussels international center. and also in tunis is i mean, sanusi, political analysts and journalists covering junior and north africa. very war. welcome to all of you. i mean, let's start with you because you were at these protests yesterday. what was the
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mood like who was at them? well, i was of the brute that yesterday. and it was a bit different from the, for the participating in the last few months. this time we can, we can see that there is a lot of people coming fro, economic reasons, just as we've heard the report there are people struggling to find find food, to find jobs, to find any form of economic stability. and those people have been motivated to go to the streets and protest. so that is the main difference, not just with the previous protest removed the port. this was was the critic to mystic really because people are hoping for a change in the next few weeks in the next few months because people believe that sides regina has been voted out really by the last election. the recall, the recall little turnout is approved for them that, that the a form of
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a position to the president's regime. so there was this optimistic mood and plus the, the difference between this process of yesterday and the process has been held throughout the 2 years. the i changing the regime is that there was difference board school organizations protesting the same time. there was the 3 and part yet invisia. there was some vision from the beginning. i've been you, but there was also the left to give you 5 political gorgeous from the left about the, the proof as together. so there was like the form of general physician and, and people from all different ways to go. i diligence coming to the against the president. ok. a topic of for you in this state at this point because i want to know what this optimism is. well placed. is there
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a strong enough opposition to kaiser played to bring about change in the next few weeks or months? is protested. hope actually the short answer is no. there is no enough. i don't think that we have seen yesterday's procedures that i cited even though i site is heading into a political and economic crisis, especially his roadmap is going through a crisis. so what we have is a general crisis, really a, it was holding the loan power in since july 5 and 2021. but also the attendance. i would disagree with the idea that yesterday was an opportunity for 1st the unified friends. it was not in my view, it was the 2 major political position groups submission of front, mainly by another and the social justice friend. we're always trying
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to do with it. the police was always trying to distinguish between them, sent them into different sections of the avenue yesterday. they were almost at the same place, but they were basically something different. put messages. the left, the social democrats were basically saying, guess he was all that the problems at the same time by side and the islamist, i don't think that was a message a few medication yesterday. the same. the other point that they were in the he was that yesterday, it was mainly people with the economic backgrounds are the main difference, is that people with coming to because of the economy, they see problems. i would say that yesterday it was again, that the most station of the political, political activists made the rather than people coming from main street with economic and social problems that i think the main difference. however,
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between what happened yesterday and as it was stations, is that the political and good is good. and when they would say of numbers, i would venture into a specific numbers, but they would say it was doubly down. we went maybe from 30 to 4000 to the prior demo stations to yesterday, maybe 7000 or more than that shows the political activist or a mass in worse than before. but at the same time, they're not able, in my view to connect to the main street social through the station that weren't actually in danger. and what i decided was math yesterday was basically looking for was going to happen during the night the night before the night after. that's where you can see this, what we can call the social studies be activated, but it was really very limited. right?
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i mean, in made poor neighborhoods, we did not see major the most ations during the my test shows that it's a little bit early to say that the city is, the main of opposition is coming from the political side. yes. mean, just how much support do these political activists have? how do they unify if we look at the labor union in tennessee, as the credit be powerful? it's thinking it has join forces with the bar association, which is main human rights organization. can they align themselves than with a political party to join up this opposition against chi site and then bring about change that people want the initiative that is, that is led by the bar council. and the reason for human rights and the labor union is basically a call for dialogue call for dialogue with a call for dialogue between political parties and civil society organizations and
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with the president. so they know that if they include political parties, the president will not respond favorably to the initiative. in my opinion, in your opinion of every observer and of chinese and politics of the prison i find will not be released to any type of initiative or a dialogue or anything like that. and honestly, i am very, i do not think to even believe that a dialogue would, would, would resolve anything. we got the noble price for in 2014, i guess for, for, for a national dialogue. but at the end of the day, i think, created unnatural. and politically confused, coalition that did not lead to anything but the crisis we are going through at the moment. so no, i don't think, for example, the labor union is very strong political, stakeholder and social stakeholder. but they're not a political party. they're not going to enter an opposition directly with president
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time because they're not in themselves a political alternative or counterpart. so no, i know, but i think all and national invasions are not talking about political party, but national organizations are still hoping that the president will respond favorably to a call for dialogue, political parties, all of you know, across ideological backgrounds. all of them agree that the, the problem comes from, from the president by himself and from his refusal to engaged when with any type of stakeholder really and from on, at the sure and competence enrolling the country since 2019. now we're talking about the 25th of july 2021. that was the pool, but he is in power since 2019. and what has he done for the country? we're not sure. i'm not talking. i don't think i'm just finishing with that. i'm not saying that it would better be or before we're doing much better,
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but i'm talking with and talking about it didn't have all progress is and is the 1st time really the 2011 that a president concentrate all powers and haven't done much with all these per octaves . yeah, i mean that's, that's a great point, isn't it? because case i says that she is in needed, or it does need a strong leader to tackle corruption, to fight the political stagnation that it's offered in the 10 years after the arab spring. but he hasn't tackled either of those things and he hasn't achieved away out. fortune is yeah. what's happened? yeah, i think this is what gives me the most about the, about the situation because i came in with a lot of big promises social justice, tackling the corrupt system and getting rid of corruption. very big promises that, that people believed. and people believed in when you made the school in july 2001
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people were on the street shifting his name is reporting and that is scary because the disappointments that we are going to find and we are finding right now the people is making them leading them to fuses, belief in the political system, this belief in politics. and that's what, what is the scary and i think what i side has done is shift the blame should the responsibilities since 2019 1st it was the parliament. then it was the justice and then when he got rid of everything that limits his power, now he has full. i was as you've been just said, he's the strongest presidents we ever had since 2011 and it didn't do anything with it. now it is the time that people are going to realize that that, that he wasn't, that he wasn't working towards their interests. he was looking towards his, it's personal gain, his personal bowers and,
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and that's what scares me the most. the disappointments in the school feel the or are feeling good people at dark at this stage, given that to me as yet is suffering from an incredibly dia, economic situation. what the people want that do they want to mort chrissy? or are they happy to put up with the current status quo if they have a better quality of life? if they can feed their families if they can send the children to school, if at the prospects of good jobs, what do people want? most of all, i think after all of these years since 2011, a very problematic the mechanics transition that actually did not bring a lot of economic and social reforms, which was the main reason why there was a revolution in the 1st place. you have so many people really pessimistic about the idea of the way that this happened in tunisia. i would say you have a mixed reactions. you might, we might say that many people are still basically,
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they still believe that we should have the process of democracy. but they would say there are a lot of people in case number of people who would say we need mainly economic social reforms, even though it's going to happen. the non democratic means. and they would say the problems of some of the base with a sigh is not. that is not because he's not delivering it. and this is going to be the main problem. one of the major challenges to follow really closely was going to happen with the agreement with because this is an indication of how a science where your food is highly problematic. so in the beginning he sent his government, he will shape with mainly liberally forums. basically, there are 3 of the government of the state for the economy, but then just few weeks after signing the stuff level to get even tawberry started basically opposing main sections. major sections of the agreement,
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especially the privatization of state own. come on a guy say he's, he's not in the process of doing good work. he, he's failed. he has failed. he's lost the support of the people. he's lost the support of the international community. he's found democracy as far as he saw it as far as soon as he has been so far has failed. well, we have to make a difference between our democracy favor the last 10 to 12 years and the process of failure. and i would say if i cited, i don't think that he's out of a support. they think his own unfortunately the main and say leaving with what he's saying on a delivery happening. i mean, the main trash is the other process is the cases of the affirmative, the main political figures of the lead. i'm not able to governors, people and i am afraid that the extent that that is going to be more even more
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populous a. this is something to watch, especially for the major economic and financial problems that not result of the coming weeks and months. yes. mean what, what are your thoughts here? is, is case out of support? does he still have some support? has he failed? what can yield? tentative bearing, there are a lot of big questions here as to what happened. should he go? i think there is a distinction to be made between the, his loss of support from the international community and from a local political stakeholders. that's a thing. yes. and he completely lost support from that, from the very beginning, from, you know, taking over all powers. he lost the support of the international and the, the national community. but when you're talking about using people, and you're seeing polls, for example, his still maintaining high levels of support. and again,
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this is not because people are endearing to, to, to his policy. but because there is a, an absolute lack of alternative, a viable alternative. also of new faces, but again, just going back to the idea of do we do tunisians want democracy are still want democracy? do they want economic justice? the premise is one cannot go without the other. and i think a lot of to use in understand that the, the idea that, again remembering why the chinese revolution happened in 2011, it was mainly economic demands at the, at the beginning in economic demands based on the idea that, you know, retiring regina cannot deliver on economic justice with this is again the same thing and for site i wouldn't agree that he's not delivering where he's, i mean he's not delivering on things. he delivering a deal of the ins and not managing to go on with the deal. it's been months now.
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the deal was that was, was meant to be cooked in march and with money was meant to come in march. we're, we're in january 2023. you know, having, you know, shortages and complete with consecutive churches and conveys the commodities and pe rocketing inflation. these are results. he's not, not delivering, this is in itself, speaking for, for his policies and basically the be complete contradictions between his, this 4th and very less popular discourse. and then he delivering on basically very harsh new liberal policy. what i mean, what, what support does you get from outside of the country? he something is popping him up from outside the country. i think i love the support since he's since it's cool. i think it is very difficult for, for an actress to deal with someone without having a clear on the,
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on the next few years. and what they are seeing from the outside is that side is doing with point 6 day to day in his is doing an improv class of point 6 in geneva is just basically changing whatever part of the system doesn't, doesn't present agenda. and that's what, what scares or what drives the way for an actor is that will not support someone with no, be ready to do the plus i side also has a double a double, a double position when it comes to are in actors. the he always says that there is too much for an influence, and trinity is very critical of, of students with countries, etc, etc. but at the same time is asking for deal. he's asking for very nearly brew deals with the i met with the or the bank and etc, etc. so he's really is hopefully is characterized by this relationship with for
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the next topic. we'll of course we've got other well, thor, terry and actors in the regional area, the egypt, the you a, they're all going to be watching pretty closely what happens in chew news? yes, they have done since the arab spring, which sounds really fun dough. what. what do you think that view is val with well, let me 1st say, i mean that i don't think that we have an authoritative regime now. i would say we have a would not allow yesterday's demonstrations. it's a hybrid, probably magazine. this is totally true with. so many populous leaders who have these kinds of might authoritarian hybrid systems. this is what we have to just. secondly, with regards to the i tech support, i disagree with,
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i think he does with him off the g 7. i think he still has an active support of being actors, especially the french and we parents. and especially with that is in the background of a legal obligation and with the french are very interested in having a stable situation. it's an easy because there is no key to visit or they would be fine. now with does not mean that they're happy with him, but they don't see a viable or that would be a reason why they would robbie for tenicia government i side to get and i am not sure if getting actually there is a student to get a even now, to get it to me and i am f agreement when he goes to washington, us is a little bit skeptic, maybe with the but i don't think they have an approach
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a fraction with great. again, what's going to happen, especially with the possible alternative to him with regards to the regional regional actors. i would say the energy in there, basically an alliance with a site does not mean they like him. but clearly there is a clear, basically a relationship between the 2 different levels of actors. i wouldn't say that when you see a g, but it's basically under the influence that she, she a jumping and we have run out of time. unfortunately, we could be a lot more about this and hopefully we will again in the coming weeks and months revisit, you know, it's a fascinating development in
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