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taliban said that women can continue to work in areas such as health. women in afghanistan were banned from aid. where can december a move which led to charities suspending their operations in the middle of a worsening monetary crisis. the stream is next asking how short term holiday rentals are affecting local communities. ah, ah ah, ah, welcome to this dream, i have a din tourist destinations are competing for business again. now that the worst of the current of ours pandemic seems to be behind us,

and people are travelling more and more. but local, say, the renewed popularity of short term home stay rentals through platforms such as air b and b and verbal is pricing them out of their home as landlords and developers try to cash in. today on the stream, we'll look at how short term holiday rentals are effecting communities. joining us for today's discussion, we have mar santa maria vargas, is she's an urban planner and co founder of the 300000 kilometers per 2nd agency. she's joining us from barcelona. carla scott is a housing rights lawyer and director at the human rights center of the free law school of one today. and maria cox, founder of inside air b and b data driven project that looks at the impact of that platform on residential communities. he's in new york, and you can join today's conversation through youtube. send us your comments and any questions for our panel. now i want to get right to it, carla, i want to share a clip with you from a video story, my colleague manuel at apollo,

filled in november. he filed this, rather i should say, that really illustrates the problem specifically in mexico, in it we hear a woman really talking about the fact that b and b is quite frankly kicking her out of her home. take a listen. oh yes. yeah. much compliment yogato demonstrators in mexico city. bizarre math wanted out there, protesting against rising costs of housing off and go in and look at the increase in rent and housing prices is negatively effecting as, as a local community. this woman has asked us not to reveal her identity out of fear of reprisal. she says the housing crisis goes beyond increasing prices. after her apartment building signed to deal with the home share company air b and b. she was given 5 days to move out. she says short notice evictions are becoming common place across the city. but am i fell in love with it. this is a matter of human dignity. how can someone come to your home in the evening and say you have 5 days of kate? what do they expect us to do?

of course, the mayor of mexico city actually striking a deal with air b and be there, back in the day. i'm curious how things evolved and what do you make of those concerns? ollander? well, to understand this concern, we have to fairs understand as of course air b and b is not the region of all the problems of housing and urban and cities right now. it's not the unique problem. if maybe not the biggest one, what i do think is a deal breaker in governments because when all the problematic of air b, m b arrives to a cd, it shows how the government on their son is the house in trouble. and also how willing they are to guarantee the human rights of housing. what happen, mexico, cd is that of course the appearance of irby and b hop challenges. the housing of a lot of people am, is people good that then population. but also what happened is that it shows how

the house in politics in mexico had been running, for example. and right now in all mexico, no, just mexico, cd only am 58 percent of the a least things of the rental has to read and contract. that means that the mass of the population, and sorry that 50 percent doesn't have rating contracts. that means the most of the population, they don't even have a paper that show that they hop right of 10 am, right? so you can imagine how deep is that when appears something like or b and b. yeah, i do these, these kind of history are really sad and terrible in medical and i see, you know, mar, you're nodding as we hear what the situations like go, city, we know, or i know i should say, didn't barcelona? recently? we've seen the, the city really take regulation seriously make threat directly to air b and b. but as we heard, you know, car, the thing, it's not just air b and b that brought about this problem. what can you share with us about sort of

the scale of the problem in barcelona and what they're doing right? to address it. i think that we, we will arrange a fine where to wait. we would try not to, to address the problem directly in or so the city council has set up these, these set of regulations. but the program goes beyond an ard depictions beyond the idea that we not, we replace a population by, by another. no, it has also impacts and direct impacts, not under services in cities. so we are losing even in the seat, the center of our seller now grocery shops and the shops we need for a neighbor to not to perform an, an everyday life now. so they impact, i think, what it's important that they bugs go beyond. it's a new phenomenon that ev 5 years ago now, and i think it's really important that more a for me to it's kind of not. i know that more aids here today because we having using he said he the data that they are providing actually to quantify the

phenomena because it's the phenomena that we the know how big it it is now. and if we the know how to quantify it, we cannot add react now and we cannot provide some poly, sam, that's a, that's a perfect segue. appreciated data is critical, not just in this situation, but murray, particularly when we want to just understand what the actual problem is or problems that are compounded by some of these phenomenons that we've seen, like digital nomads. and what have you, what comes to mind, what is the data teaching you? not just about barcelona mexico, but the city across, you know, this phenomenon across the world. maybe one more, right sir. so the data shows really clearly that people are not using air b and b just to share their a room in the house. most people are using are being be a host to rent their entire home,

whether they're renting at temporarily when they're away or they're renting it permanently. and also many hosts the building, the property portfolios where they have multiple properties on everybody. so it, it is really important to every city. ready different whether the, the type of tourism, the type of housing, the other types of issues that they have. and so it's really important to use data to quantify how many of them they are there, or how does that compare that both number and the types of rent or the types of income that people are getting. the incentive to use every and b. i just want to add one although although short term rentals and they might not be the biggest problem with housing it's, it can come to be the easiest problem to address gentrification and other other

types of was for example, the rising cost of housing that there. how to, to address the regulating ebi can be quite easy. a political will. right? and you know, when we talk about political, well, i want to ask you, you know, and i should probably say in full disclosure that we reached out to b and b, they provided this statement. they say over the last decade or b and b has worked with cities around the world to put in place regulations that balance the economic opportunity. short term rentals create while also protecting housing and supporting local tourism issues as well as housing as well as over terror. tourism they say are complex and nuanced issues and we will continue to work with governments around the world, offers solutions that help support the responsible, sustainable growth of travel. now i have to ask you, it's a lot of words in my mouth right there. but you know, air b and be sort of claiming if i'm not mistaken, you know that the majority of hosts on air b and b share just one home. and that, unlike other short term rental platforms,

they work closely as you heard here to develop these sort of advanced regulatory framework. murray, you're kind of sharing a sneaky kind of smile there. what do you make of this statement? i mean, is it true that in good faith they are sort of leading the charge if you will, in terms of trying to address the issue? well, i'd like to make 2 points. so i, i do agree that the newest issue, every and b is not cooperating with cities the fighting cities. they've got a team of lawyers, the boss alone or the regional, local and regional court in the european court. the same thing in new york city, the food, the city multiple times. so i don't agree with that. there was also, there was a claim in the statement that the majority of hosts only rent one. so that's technically true in many, many cities and

a quote from us data in the united states. 63 percent of the listings are in on the type of property portfolio. but at the same time, the majority of host, the host only have one property. so both of these things can be true of the same time, and the fact that they brought, they said the majority of hosts only have a single listing. that's because a small number of host have a massive number of listing in the us. the one percent of hosts, they control 300000 apartments across across the country. right. and so i don't think that being, i don't, i don't think they're acting in good faith and then misleading they're trying to mislead the public. and what are your thoughts, carla? go ahead, go ahead. now the numbers as well, same. go ahead and everyone wants to talk about whether or not the price go ahead.

just to add a last point due to what more it was saying. we have the same feat worse for spain, not bad. it's not becoming eh, it's an economic activity that we are like mixing weeds with housing and that, that in denver, fibrillation, it break it, it breaks all the social bags that we're, we're use all the tools that we have to address the problem that it's becoming really really difficult to, to, to regulate and, and to control. and, you know, carla, when, when i'm, before i come to you, i want to share with you a video from our colleagues at a j plus which really highlights the general tensions that are growing in mexico. not just because of the popularity of digital nomads and you know what the mayor did there, but even things that go beyond that, take a listen to this, but this is what some mexicans are calling modern colonialism. that heavy influx of americans moving to mexico city to take advantage of lower living costs. other

locals are calling it gentrification. a plague or even an invasion. why? oh you are. you're thinking of moving to mexico city. wow. non super termination. duncan gentry, occasionally the name of the game. some locals have benefited from increasing tourism for many that doesn't balance out rising costs in inflation. mexicans are also set up with americans ignoring cultural and social norms in some complained and certain places english is more common than spanish. carla, does mexico have laws that specifically protect tenants? i mean, what's the public housing situation like there? and based on that video, i mean this perception of this being an invasion how real is bad and who's paying the price. ok about the idea of invasion, that problem that we have just them. so in this video, i think it's true,

but he's like just watching one more leave from a star wor, believe that you understand the whole story. because i think that what we're seeing is like one episode of really large and history of gentrification, housing problems in mexico. of course, the appearance of people and digital know much from us on other countries from europe to mexico has became, you know, problematic because obviously the other rush of the middle class and us has more income than the other side of the middle class in mexico city. that's true, but where they are and moving to our neighbors, that has already been in general education process. i mean, all these process, all these problematic a start with mexicans, with more income than other mexicans. what we are seeing is people from us that are

using this problem, a process just like jumping up on the train and what is like a larger it's story. and i think that, yeah, this is a problem. we can just like them thinking we're blind them, that we are not understanding that people from us have more income. some people from mexico. what at the same time i don't think it's up for itself on immigration problem. i never, i think that immigration is never a problematic. what happened is that they come to mexico with mark um, but also they come to see the on a country with are weighed out a real house in politics. i already said we have even problems with some basic us having reading contract. so it's not just saying that all our people from us is part of the dynamic would we have to talk about what the government has not doing in the life? 45 and in mexico, jeff or a legend. 2 mexico is, are right, and i'm finished with this point mexico, the 1st country in the war that it has

a constitutional weight, social rights including housing. but the thing time, and their health in politics in us is stronger, are more guaranteed that a, the mexican one. so it's like are really trying to really are what is our reality so right. we have, we have to feel them was a forward and i want to share with everybody. this is a reality that's not just happening in barcelona and mexico in new york. murray, where you do a lot of your research and work, but people in our chat on youtube really, i are very inspired by this topic. for example, i want to share with you sunny, who says i live in a tourist area. you can find plenty of air b and b's for 1000 a week, but rentals for residence almost nonexistent, richer city, people buy here too. so local, get priced out as taxes go up. so you know this narrative not unique to these places. i have a question, i'll put it out there may be mar or marie,

feel free to answer this but garbage girl. thing in our chat on youtube. are there any countries currently that we should be looking to as goals for regulating stuff like this? murray, i know that barth alone is doing some things. right. what's your answer? yeah, i think many cities have been thinking about and dealing with this problem for some time passing on as a good example. other example, the amsterdam, they only allow you to rent out your primary residence, residence and no more than 30 days in the year. new york city has effectively band short term rental except except if your, if the host is present. so they come on the rent out rooms. so there are, there are good examples of cities that have regulated air b and b. and so there are other templates everywhere. power, paris,

have some good regulation. sure. mar. what do you, what do you think? i mean barcelona is hail that the city that's taking this seriously. what, what can you share with us about what's working there, but then also in your mind, i mean, i'm, i'm, i'm curious. do you think that it's possible to have, you know, a sustainable tourist destination that's truly vibrant that have tourists coming in, but that's protecting it's residence yet. do to respond to the 1st to the 1st time how version on address it is of really technical a way of doing. but am, we are not regulating the number of days that you can stay in the prior month. the number of days that you can rent it, but actually we are at the like the city council. they finally meet of the number of, of, of rental apartments that we'd quit coughing to city. and also we, we booked like a kind of ghost was number. i'm from that no, we cannot go beyond not. and that result into core as an a strategy that it's

really based know on, on an on objective for a meter. so now at, at the moment under these regulation it's, it's actually not, it's, it's, it's working and i seen that to pine know air of all know, and i, it very much related to, to, to stick to, to this idea of node or to this example off or mexico we are, we are supposed to have a really not as other european cities or that are we are really of, of host a housing policy. and that means know that, and we are trying to address is accessibility to housing as a city. but we have a problem with that which a we had a really attractive sitting, you know, we have a really cheap airport. that means now that these digital nomics want to be a in barcelona so that it's putting us in a situation where we have this tension between to blow her and not a global passion. and, you know, and you know,

and i do want to share just in full transparency. i've spent the last few months living in barcelona. and one of the touristy areas called elburn. and obviously, the city than i, i understand the appeal about why people are attracted to it. but just to emphasize that point that you made more of that, you know, there has to be a balance that is working for all parties. and hopefully that's not only prioritizing tourism or any, any sort of industry. i do want to share with our audience a video from natasha. the name a colleague of mine here at al jazeera from about a year ago. right? highlighting sort of the trend that the city's been struggling with. let's take a look initially, carlos barrel cow thought he and his mother would leave quiet leap as his neighbors had. for 25 years, they've called this 4 bedroom flat in barcelona home. that he realised finding another apartment anywhere in the city for the $685.00 a month, they've been paying is impossible. he's been fighting eviction for the past 4 years

. i think that by the day, this is affecting me emotionally. i my mother even more, i've had to distance her from all of the struggle because of her illness. but it's impossible to do that completely. you know, i keep seeing these videos, i keep hearing these sort of stories. that sounds similar and i can't help but wonder if, if really one of the things that needs to happen is to refrain how we discussed this issue. both in barcelona and mexico and everywhere. we have a housing activist from mexico, carla, that sent us a video where she sort of suggests that this phenomenon really needs to be recognized and framed as a human rights problem. i want to get your thoughts after this. take a look, government master dressed as a complex problem link with real estate dynamics, labor market migration and the mcgrath. it changes not just or is the consequence. that is why there are no steps to follow. we have to back to basics on the star, rec, amazing dis balloon. as a human side problem, it could be surprising,

but many countries just recognize them as a financial instrument. general recommendations are creating addiction containment mechanisms restricting the number of flowers on these platforms. given tenure security, favoring far more contrast between tenants, landlords and taxing owners and tourism. carla, what do you think? well, i agree with michael lee go colleague, money dollar, and i believe that here mexico maybe another countries. i know that their discussion in spain, for example, is a little bit different. but for example, in mexico, i think no one's almost no one. and that with about that, how thing is that you want to write the struggle that is about what does it mean, housing? i think human rights, a lot of people say that am how think of the human right mean the right to buy a house. it means if you have the, comes to buy a house that you're right and does the housing and right. but a lot of people think that house and it's all for all the options on all the force

of the government to achieve a goal that no one's an estate on the streets and that pays for a hobby them. so that's the problem right now in mexico. know, and i appreciate you for me not, i just want to jump in for audience to, to just highlight something i found interesting, which is that the mayor and mexico recently i believe, said that there is no link between rental struggles and air b and b as presidents and i think that, that, that, that's important, that we kind of, you know, i have friends for example, who traveled to mexico, there talented artists their entrepreneurs. and obviously they were attracted to the cheaper standard of living, but a really good quality of life. and the rich cultural diversity of mexico. carla, are they the problem? i mean, if i can't help but wonder like, you know, are, is that a desire to go after the pandemic and maybe build the business in mexico rather than new york city? is that that alone a problem? i mean,

i think that will be really simplistic answer. i think that human implicit question . so perhaps but, but where do you think so? i don't know, but i under yeah, but i don't think it's simply because a lot of, sorry, a lot of people who don't know if they're there maybe watching the show or they're reading some article or like maybe they have a conscience and they're there. they're worried, oh my god, am i the problem like now? but, but yeah, but i think that the answer will become simplistic. but another question, because as i told you, it's not a problem just of us in mexico because there are on mexican people's dar gentrifying, some mexican neighbors. so even reach mexican can go to us and gentrify, a neighbor in some city. i mean, the question here is and how them the we have rules on him, a specific a thunder. she'll achieve the goal that the housing and the city is why your eyes as secure, right? we guarantee that no one is going to lose their house because these economy cbd and

at the same time and leave that people to have this activity. and it's not impossible, but discussion even even bicycle. i know that they have do a lot of big stories and that is your trouble. it's a new discussion just like maybe 10 years with this discussion. and that's why we're having this discussion. i want to give you the last word, mar, anything to share quickly with our audience before we run out of time here. very quickly, i just came back to your last question, how we are going to, i imagine that we are going to be a non sustainable student due to the destination in the, in the next years i explanation of my life by now, but alone. i think we have been really attractive. now we have this problem with tourism. we have leverage call we how much we're dependent on the to, to do it active. it is how we need to change. actually another way we survive now as a city, but then we are going to have climate change. we are going to have heat waived. so the also the interactions between c, d and know and the area that i'd be attracted in the future. going to going to

change right. and with so much changing since cove it alone and i would anticipate many more changes to com. it's certainly a good point that we need to be prepared for all those changes. i want to thank you, mary. carla mar for being with us today. this is an important conversation we're going to continue to be watching here at the stream. it's all for today, but remember, you can always find us online at stream dot al jazeera dot com. thanks for watching . ah ah, with

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