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with transportation that works cause ways and residential zones, agricultural zone. and also how this cultural system was interconnected with the natural system. my in civilization span thousands of years. their cities were centered around great pyramids that served as temples. much about them is still unknown. in fiscal and with all the new evidence we have, we know the cultural complexity of the site and the region was more than we believed in the beginning. it represents a challenge, a new cultural perspectives. archeologist botanist biologist angelica as are all part of the team working at the site. they're hoping the revelation of the road network could pave the way for more discoveries about this. still enigmatic civilization fenton, marin al jazeera. ah,
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let's take you through some of the headlines down is ready. security forces of kill 2 palestinians during a raid in the occupied west bank. they were shots in the jeanie and refugee camp in the north. takes the number of palestinians killed by the military. this month to 17. the army has been conducting regular raids for several months after a wave of palestinian attacks against the occupation. israel is released one of its longest held, palestinian israeli prisoners, now have eunice was in jail for about 40 years. it follows the release of his cousin, kevin eunice, this month. both were convicted of kidnapping and killing and israeli soldier in the 1980s. new zealand prime minister jacinto dern is now she stepping down next month after 5 and a half years in office. she says she doesn't have the energy or inspiration to seek re election. not over the summer, i had hoped to find a way to prepare, not just for another year,
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but another tune because that is what this year requires. i have not been able to do that. and so today i'm not seeing that i will not be speaking really, cia and then my tim as prime minister will conclude no later than the stephen of paper. ukraine secret service has launched the criminal investigation into a helicopter crash and the key of region that killed the interior minister and other senior officials. 14 people died when the aircraft came down next to kinda golf in the town of revelry. dozens of people were injured. and the government protested from across peru of converged on the capital for 2 days of last demonstrations. they won president dina bull autopay to resign, and her previous petrocca theos, to be released from jail. authorities in hong kong, say people in fact with covey. 19 no longer have to quarantine. he's been scrapping
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the loss of its pandemic restrictions. opening up to the wolf last week. hi, feed train services between hong kong and mainland china where resumed the headlines. the news continues here and now 0 after generation change. stay with us. the world i can know mich forum returns to dabble in january to assess the global economy was shaped by the panoramic and the war in ukraine. can leaders from government and business prevent promised decade of actions becoming a decade of uncertainty. extensive coverage on al jazeera friends in the country with a long history of activism for women's rights organizations thought the suffragette,
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the anti fascist leven people have successfully for the new right and against injustice across the aged. but the struggle for social justice is far from over in the thick, biggest economy in the world. the gap between rich and poor is start and increasing . welcome to generation change a global series, the attempt to understand and challenge the idea that mobilizing around the world. my name is amanda ronnie, and i'm the journalist base here in london. in this episode we need to young activists who was happening the root cause is a violent from unjust legal and education systems to poverty, policing and racial inequality. hulu in 2010. conservative lead government came into power and implemented a policy of austerity over the next decade. billions of pounds will cut in public
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spending. in london use violence and knife. crime has increased atlanta catch blames, austerity sh . do right now we're in canada and you basically grew up around here, right? a lot of people know this area of being a tourist destination for the market, but this is a place where you've kind of decided that you want to get involved in optimism. i'm working in the community. why is that? i think if you look at that immense, well, the power is big companies here, but we don't equally share the fruits of what's happening. and i think particularly as a, as a young person, you see all these issues around youth violence. and you decide,
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if it's not me who's going to be involved, then you will be so when you were 15 years old, he decided to join the youth parliament of great britain. and you gave a really impassioned speech about violence and use some of the word winston churchill, the former conservative leader against the conservative policies. as my crime came more lives within our country, never passed so much been lost by so many because of the indecision of so few. what we think we need to find is do that. it's about the idea that you can use people's words against it. the conservative party have the set of ideals about the way they want to run with it, but they don't for a few with particular kind of rhetoric about living up the country is not matched
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up by any kind of real investment. it's all taping over the crux of a decade or stereotype which they prove entire communities under the bus or what does a fair and. busy equal, more just country look like i think is about fundamentally investing in communities . right now we have a system in which communities, essentially left to brain proposals that they face to love. but we have to think about building a society in which everyone can have a fair start in life, which were all given that an equal opportunity if there were some people that said, okay, that's idealistic, you'll young either understand the way the world were. what would you say say people, i say that we just need to reframe out kind of now rod history. the current perspective that we study, su 4 is kind of through the lens of the power. when we actually look as to that the moment where regular people have banded together and can achieve
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a low ah, doesn't mean cuts him starved many council estates of funding since 2010 up to 1000 youth centers have been shut down for many young people. life is becoming increasingly difficult and dangerous, temporarily helps those who have been impacted by violence. this is the gramm barker fate need grew up here, right? this is where i grew up. could you just tell me a little bit about what was growing up hair that furth may, he wants you to work in your community. paul, there is the issues that we experienced here from such a young age, living in poverty, seen just this experience in injustice and been exposed to such extreme violence.
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and when i was only 15, my next door neighbor, my childhood friend, marvin, he was on killed a month before his 18th birthday. i'm so yeah, that was definitely a catalyst for me to want to one understand how things are that can even happen in our society. brought to work with in my community to support people who are experiencing the things i know people should utterly of experience, especially children. i know there are lots of facets oh, front does. could you just explain for a little bit about the services that you provide? the young people for fun is on a mission to empower young people and communities to fight for just this piece on frieda. and we support young people who have experienced violence to create change in their own lives, in our community and in society. and so it's about community empowerment, it's about uplifting young people. so you'd be able to friday,
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and not just survive. you've also got a background in law. you complete a law degree. how much do you feel that has impacted your work in the community and awareness of the situations that people come up against when i went to university and i was study in law, that's when i 1st realized how detached the legal system or the study of the legal system is from the reality. oh, i had an experience where in one lecture when we were learning about families, are fighting for justice for their loved ones are being cos, raphael, things that they haven't done. what we're talking about is direct, be affecting my community and the future lawyers are saying around really couldn't care about me. i realized i want to do our system from the inside. don't get me wrong. i respect people that do that. we have some amazing noise that we work with and i think we do need those people. i just didn't want to be one of them for i
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could do more from the outside the work you do, you see it's very kind of emotional it personal. what kind of told had that taken on you being engaged in that day to day? this work can bring and joy, i'm fulfilling man. but i can't take away from the fact that it's really hard to bear witness to people's pain. and watching young people process those experiences, i feel proud that they don't have to be alone, but we're experiencing those things as a community. collectively we experience and to come for. and in that sense, as long as there's injustice and all of this pain and that's happening, there's no way to not be impacted. so the toll take for me as the told i take from everybody the in 2012 as part of an effort to reduce klein, the government commission to study that looked into the background of prison. and
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it found that 63 percent of the inmates, they had been even temporarily, or permanently excluded from school. the link between a bad education and future incarceration is so distinct that it is known as the school to prison pipeline. tammy, the project be work on the forefront project, work specifically with young people that have been excluded. how important you think is to engage with young people who are being excluded from schools. when you marginalize young people from education 1st time, they will experience exclusion from society. and i think that has a knock on effect and how they perceive themselves and how they perceive the world and how they're only afraid, well falling on from that many schools are very disciplinarian and punitive. and
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same young people up for imprisonment, certain young people because outside of just school exclusions, which catalogs and attention, i think there's a whole spectrum that even happening in the schools before people were excluded permanent me under the new legislation that they are trying to introduce the police cause crime sentencing bill. they are ramping up the secure schools that are supposedly schools with security rather than presents with education. there is not even a school for the pipeline anymore. we skipped the pipeline that went straight to the prism. and it's not just about staying in school, it's also about what you learn and what's in the curriculum. and as you need to really focus on this, you know, specifically white washing of the curriculum. how do you think that links to the progress the young people can make? i think like a fundamental part of education is you study any topic from a certain perspective. and i think currently we have a very your century perspective with clues beef,
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pivotal and fundamental role this country paid in things like empire colonialism and slavery. and if we kind of look at our narrative around the past, this is idea that essentially these things were ended by a kind of moral revelation or more development in the u. k. and across europe and across the western world. but when we actually look at the, the haitian evolution as an example of it, of a historical event, which is the only of a successful revolution in which a wallet was profitable. county in haiti eventually over who and in savory, that paid a pivotal role in shifting the tide towards abolition. but if you look at the way they are currently presenting the curriculum, it's essentially around the idea of moral development in the k and who has an impact on the way that we perceive social change to day. because the kind of land that we study, the past in school, undermines the importance in terms of the long term historical narrative, that movement paid. and that means that we under emphasize the role that we can
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play as a movement to day and tell me you're coming at this a few years further down the line is graduated and been through the education system looking back. was there anything that you think was missing in the education system? i think for me, history was the subjects i was very passionate about. i really enjoyed the civil rights movement in the miracles. one of my favorite subjects at the time leaving school, i felt i knew nothing about the movement in this country. i'm learning everything that's happening in america. i had no idea about all of the black liberation organizing that was happening in this country way before i was born. i'm will continue to happen way also. i died. i. so why wasn't, i've been for about my own history in this country. something that i can connect with and relate to and not going to build my understanding of the world. i'm living mean of the society i'm living in. that's something that i really would have value
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and they get me wrong. i think international solidarity is really important. so i am glad that i got the understanding of what was happening abroad. it shouldn't have come at the expense of learning anything about what was happening in this country. in the ending march 2020, there were around 46000 recorded offences involving a knife and in london, the metropolitan police has warned that 2021 is on track to being the worst year of teenage killings in more than a decade. as a response, the ruling conservative party has called the police to be given quite to power. while many journalists in the british media, he's a gang label without factoring in the all the reasons that lead to define it. to me, you've spoken about the importance of the distinction between the gang coach, nice violence. why do you think it's so important that that distinction is
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understood, developing an understanding of how particular labels are used to fathom marginalize and ostracize particular groups? the word gang in this country has become synonymous with black use. why one would off that as a question why? what really is a guy? i mean, when you look at the legal definition, hooligan, they could be a gotten by the legal definition of various groups of people that could fit the definition of a gang. but the word gang is never used to enable them. and there's various research and studies, for example, one bipartisan bessie that showed that a cross section of the media. but they studied 62 percent of the time when a label was being used to describe black youth, black men, and black boys in particular. it was the gang label. and i think it's really to store in the root causes of the issues of violence. you're nodding and on. do you agree you have to think about the fundamental drivers and of which is basically
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like social economic inequality and how that is the root cause of violence, young black men, a particular presented being like immoral. and i think that connects to the stereotype in which is need to attend. she reads those who are empower of the responsibility. do they have been creating the social conditions for this? why that? because it's not like like the economic inequality that exists in our communities. the closer view of the di, funding of education, the lack of inclusive curriculum. these are all decisions being made by people in power. and so the user stereotypes and those perceptions as a way of attention distancing themselves from how their policies have caused these social conditions and drive this violence. the gang label to me, that is an example of how certain labels, certain approaches are established to deny people. dad bruce to access the resources and support that they require to heal. so many young people die
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themselves. have, you know, perpetrated violence again or the young people themselves have also been victims, multiple times, repeat victimization, and said, is this, i call victimization, not healing, victimization, healing got to be fair if there's no, and i can protect you if there's no one that can prevent that harmless thought that harm or support you all you've experienced palm. why wouldn't young people take matters into their own hands? and that's something that doesn't get enough attention to something that i've heard a lot was reporting on the fine is that a lot of young men feel unsafe and they don't feel like there is anybody that's going to come and help them. they don't feel like they trust the police, right. i could you think of something that would make young men feel more safe in the u. k? i think we have to challenge like what is the notion of safety and why she is safety? because the way the law politicians talk about is like next slide, the streets with as many police officers. and that's like safety for who. because actually, if we look at those in our community on risk of having
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a not violence committed against the police are not necessarily looking at them as people who could potentially be victims and then looking at them in a very that kind of lens of suspicion of all you about to commit the crime shows that the way that the police are interacting with people is not from a position of necessarily trying to look out for them. is often from a perspective kind of suspicious. and i think linked to bar, something was really important for fave talking about, we want to move away from a punitive system doesn't mean we want to move away from accountability responsibility. and i just want to make that clear, because it's really important to actually know that the system we have, there's no incentive for accountability. we have an adversarial court system where because of what stake i, there's no incentive for me to say i did this. i hom, this person, and i want to make amends. i want to repair that home. why would anybody?
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and i'm just talking about extreme cases where people have been killed. i'm talking about right, the way down to more trivial. mazda dealt with through the course, there is no incentive, so actually, the society that we have from a moral point of view is really not interested, intrigued, accountable, see, responsibility. one of the things i think is important. so what is the contentious debate around drill music and you know, there's an argument that glam largest violence and that it perpetuates violence. but i want to hear what you guys think about your music. specifically. this is an age old debate in relation to trying to regulate press on black, awful, black music. what you have to understand is that for maybe the 1st time in communities that have been economically completely marginalized, abandoned here now comes over a pathway for some means of material success. for young people that have been excluded from other forms of income generation. so people's material needs are not
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being met and here comes a way that people can, can do that and achieve i think, what do you think about this kind of june music to part of the right wing in our society because he went to him by issues of violence and other one of those handy destructions by which they can kind of distance themselves from their direct role in creating the conditions in which it happens. because where have you ever seen the argument that any other form, john, we're that has one living type poncas. what drives people to violent. like if there was a look at all kind of map out, one of the things are driving by itself society and there's a social inequality, is a school fusion is all these are the issues. but how is it near it in a song the are supposed going to be driving with a virus? and this doesn't make sense. do you know? they know that there is an argument to read that you're talking about punk, or if you're talking about these on the forms of a barley music, right?
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the difference is that with some dro, visa has been specific references to real life. cases of mud is of happened. people are, you know, basically using a song to say we kill this person, this is how we did it. and that's different to punk music. i think this coming to be said about that. but there's also, like we just have to look and the fact that these young people with lyrics of a narrative of their lives experience. but we need to ask ourselves how as a society, are we creating a situation in which these kind of lyrics are happening? what does it reflect about and the way that our society is being wise, obviously points out there's a found range of problems that we need to tackle. there is a lot of focus on the violence in the lyrics of the songs. but if you listen to artists like dave or storms in a lot of the mainstream people are speaking, there are a lot of lurks that talk about the mental health effects that these live experiences had and people. and for some reason those things don't really seem to cut him. i
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don't think a fit the narrative enough of one of my favorite songs of dave is actually called panic attack. and it's from like his 1st a e p. and i just so moved by really moved and i think there's a lot of music that is really documenting what young people are experiencing and the kind of life that they have to live, how they have to navigate their own safety, their own pass, and her dad right, and to dignity on respect and the told about takes mental me and it just was perfectly encapsulated for me in that song. and there's other songs by example as well. i think if people are so concerned about drew, they should be horrified about people having those live to experience. i've said, why are we not more interested in that me? in 2017. a fire broke out in grenville tower, a residential building that provided social housing in london. 72 people lost their lives later emerged that the fire spread so rapidly because grunfeld exterior
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insulation, it's cutting with highly flammable. and that when the building was renovated, the year before, to improve its external appearance, managed, had used the flammable cutting because it was cheaper. we couldn't have this conversation without mentioning glenville, it's become a massive symbol of social inequality and injustice in the u. k. what do you feel like it represents your generation? what happened at grand tower? thumbs up, everything this wrong with the way the, our society coming years. if you look at the way that there were systemic racism in terms of who she died, most of the people were black. and if we look at the fact that this would have happened in a richer community, if we look at the fact that people had been repeatedly warned about the, the danger of this building and the fact that none of the people who are involved in what happened in photography and it just shows what is so fundamental wrong with
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the side. it was stopped in searching young people for non violent drug possession and playing them in prison. but you can get away with 72 people, leasing a life in a fire. what does that tell us about the way the our society is one. i for heart broken, like most people about what happened our gram foul. and i think for me, it symbolizes the neglect the abandoned men. and that's something that resonates with me a lot because i come from a community and my estate again neglected abandoned and left to ra, entity, re a. and to me grandfather speaks about because is more important. and for this, i sort of a block to look pretty for, but other wealthy people that live near then is for people who have the right to be safe in their own home. it's really interesting speech, but at the same time, because there are lots of overlaps and you're saying, but tammy,
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you said to me the other day that no one's coming to save us. we're gonna have to do this for ourselves. so your position slightly outside the system and your thinking of possibly pursuing a career in politics. why and trying to effect change from inside the system? why do you still have faith in the system? and also all of the things we've spoken about it will look a lot the way the log issues and politics and talked about now it's people who are outside the system, who shape the way that politics interact with society. because they kind of, if we look at like racial justice, the ideas around transformative justice, these ideas that politicians are putting forward these ideas that community activists and other people put forward. and if it's not necessary that we can solve the need to change, but how can there be nice people who are within the system? her receptive to these different vision as a society? and i think what i want to see in politics is a kind of generational shift in which my generation can try redesign. we shape this
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because just as there were people who made the system this way. so can there be, i think, is that people who can time make it work for the vast majority of people in this country, following on from that point me in the back of what you said to me and how do you feel looking at the system more generally, i respect i found decision if he wants to go in and i filled that, we need to move toward the political system where we have people that represent tough people of the people of the community from the community for the community. and unfortunately, we looked politician just not the case me. so if we can have young people like i can see them, but they can transform that system to be where we can actually have that representation. then i think that is a worthwhile ambition to have a pass and the i wouldn't want to do that myself. i want to empower people on the ground. and i think that the 2 can work hand in hand,
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but that's my focus. when i look back on my life, i want to say this is how i invested my energy because we have limited energy. we have limited time and resource. and so that's my decision of how i wanted to use my own time and resources to try and create impacts and create. well, there's been so much of this conversation which is positive, you know, and at this time that's something i think a lot of people are searching for say thank you so much for coming and speaking to generation changed and i look forward seeing my tv, i'm gonna do in the future examining that dying. how big a breakthrough is this story moment for all towers, research, unflinching journalism. i can see the part of the tree where 2 of the bullets hits there about my head. high sharing personal stories with a global audience. nature is so much more than income for shareholders if the
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