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is also suffering from an economic collapse and is in the throes of a deepening humanitarian crisis as winter conditions. worse than on today's show, we ask simply how our afghans coping ah, joining us to discuss the latest from afghanistan, from kabul. ali lativia freelance journalist covering afghanistan for al jazeera in london, women's rights activists for korea, barracks i and also with us from cobble samira side rockman advocacy and communications coordinator for the international rescue committee. ah, and of course, for those of you at home, we want you to join the conversation. so be sure to share your thoughts and questions with us on youtube. thank you for joining us. this is obviously an important conversation so many angles to discuss samira. i want to start with you with a basic tweet. just from moments ago, amnesty international, highlighting all the ways the taliban has band women and girls in afghanistan

including playing sports, appearing on tv, attending university, going to the gym, working for and and geo. attending secondary school, as well as traveling over 72 kilometers and accessing health care without a male. now that list aside, i mean all these restrictions coming lately. what is most troubling to samira? what's the latest? you know, the, the economic situation has really driven the humanitarian crisis that we're facing right now. currently we have over 28000000 people in requiring humanitarian and protection assistance. as of december 24th, at the end of last year, female aid workers are not able to work in national and international and cios. there are, there have been exceptions made for the health sector. however, you know, women, female aid workers are essential for a delivery. i'm,

i was in practica earlier in the summer. i'm during the earthquake arrived on the 2nd day there. and it's really an example of how essential it is to have female aid workers. this is a conservative country where it was the 2nd day of the earthquake. most of the women were still in their tents, had not gone out to access health care services that were able to be that were the reach that area. it wasn't until i was able to go and speak with the community elders and assure them that we had female mobile health teams present there that they were able to access these services. for us, at the international rescue committee, we have over $3000.00 female staff in our organization. these are not just frontline staff including doctors and nurses, but also staff in port roles in admin, in finance, in operations and management. and we feel that it is impossible for us to deliver safe and effective aid to the most vulnerable communities if we don't have women

working at all levels of our organization. and that's certainly a fact that's easy to understand, sir, korea, when we look beyond sort of some of those latest restrictions, specifically the one we were talking about there. let's look at some of the headlines actually that we put together the kind of highlights some of these restrictions. i want to ask you, what is the real impact? what worries you most in terms of how this is impacting women there right now daily i'm not talking about the humanitarian crisis. when you see i've got some ease in about crisis and that's the impact of taliban policies. and they tell me time or day of brutality in the sun if you see the absence of justice, the form of the government. so i don't know how a military group can then couldn't government back to this is how the situation has mental health condition. if you see the political issue at the backlash,

i've got his time, 2 years before was a different, i've got to stop. but if you see today's a big prison for their own citizens, that that's, that's maybe by a very simple sentence. i could just imagine you and beer for a 2nd. you can eliminate an grace house of population from every single aspect of life. if that plays it or not, and this is like a half of body will become a disable. what you will do with the other, the half one, if you wouldn't be able to eat, to cook, to walk, to watch even to talk. so this is, this society is like a body to help us body. this personally i think to be out and to be erase and to be disabled. and that is very sad

because we pay a lot of time energy and my human resources and the last 20 years to build of ganesh on to, to put i've got this done, basha, korea in the right track. and of course, and you know, i want to also include in this conversation to women on the ground there enough ghana stand to university students, a journalism student and medicine student. listen to what they have to say. my last thought i found out on more than i remember my university entrance exam period, how hard i tried until i entered the department i was interested in. then when i went to university, everything flash in front of my eyes like a documentary, all the pain and my hardware flashed in front of my eye with just a piece of paper with a writing and a signature saying that girls don't have this right. it ended everything. it is a very bad feeling. i was really kind of welcome to go home and use the room. i

closed everything for us, park bows and everything. and now the only hope we had was going to university to complete our studies there to become a good doctor and serve our society. but they took that from us as well as yeah, doc, data i'm, i'm sure you've spoken to many women who are echoing some of what we just heard there from those to what can you share with us about what you're seeing on the ground and whether there is a chance these restrictions, the latest ones might be walked back to be quite honest, the chance of the restriction being walk back seemed kind of a pipe dream because at this point it's all up to the leader of the taller bon, the so called a meet and he seems to be the most adamant to take back these rights to try and, you know, keep girls and women from many aspects of society. but the one thing that we have to remember is that the avalon on of 20222023. and i know it's hard for people who are not here to under. this is not that on

a phone of 19971998. you know we saw these young girls even with all the rush for sins. they still try to go to university. they still took to the university entrance exam. they still dressed, you know, fairly normally considering all of the restrictions that the tall bon have put them on there. and the truth is we can say the country is disabled because there are still women and young people and men going out and trying to live their lives as much as normal. and trying to, you know, be a part of society as much as, as possible before the taliban. you know, they all say we're gonna try and keep pushing this as much as we can before the taliban take everything away from us. and i think the more we say that, you know, absolutely everything is stock and absolutely everything is disabled and locked away. the more we're taking agency away from the avalon people and giving it to the taliban. and yet what we're seeing is that the avalon people have not given up, you know, after the university ban for women, we saw male educators,

we saw male students walking out protesting and ning, or har, canada in kabul, manion. and by the shown in all of these places, we also saw female students walking out, you know and packed y'all when they re closed that secondary schools for girls you know, which were open for about a week making at the 3rd province were secondary schools are still open for girls, we saw girls as young as 12 walking out on the street and protesting and going out and demanding their right to an education. so we have to remember that as much as the taliban is trying to restrict people and is putting all of this weight on people we are in. yeah. are the best word to use me. i'll be the right word is a fortunate situation where people are still try. i mean, you know, i appreciate all that context that you provided. it's really critical to sort of understand not just what's happened, but where, where we might be heavy, you know, and i want to ask you with that in mind, i'm gonna come straight back to just quickly aaliyah. you know,

this tweet that i saw a few days ago, a couple university professor ripping up his diplomas on live tv in afghanistan. it's been making the rounds. and just what you said there made me think of it. you know, this idea of solidarity from men. ah, is it enough? is it, is it critical in your mind? are we seeing men perhaps be as worried as women? i you know, what is your read on the ground and what do you make of these sort of moves? so when the university band came out, i was with my family. so i was with a group of men and women, doctors, government workers, educators, young girls as young as 9 and 14 and 22. and the men were just as upset as the women, you know, and as the girls and we saw immediately and the aftermath that men took to the streets as well. you know, in english or we saw medical faculty, students refusing to continue their studies until young girls could also continue.

and i really think that that was the thing that changed everything in this country . you know, everyone now says that that was the, the desk know, and the taller bonds coffin, the countdown is on. now. you know, they've gone too far. they're burying themselves in their government alive at the moment. so i really think it has, you know, slowly walking people up, we have to remember that in this country, you know, this idea of walking out on the street and protesting, you know, since the seventy's hasn't necessarily had a good reaction. but something like, you know, what these faculty are doing, what the students are doing, these are very important, impactful stances. you know, they show a solidarity. they show that the people are not willing to accept happening. and the 1990 for the 5 year that the total bon rule. and you know, when we, we hear the sure korea i want to ask you, there have been report that, you know, even i think it's mannequins now in shop shop nominee,

see me on twitter here saying even female manic and faces must be covered. that the taliban ordered all shop stop early on and say it again. ali. it's also mailman and also mailman can. so yeah, when we see these sort of repressive or extreme for lack of a better word, moves doesn't where it is hope come that the situation can be remedied, that women can be treated better. but that also, you know, you cannot mclee and the humanitarian situation at large will be addressed and allow me to say why to day i've got his son is different than before. when in 1996 and 95, talking about to cova gone is found dallas. i've got his thoughts off the civil war where the same shock as today university girl described your situation. i had the same feeling at the time because i passed that and i understand what,

what does it mean to be hopeless and, and to be just because of the gender because of your, your girl, your women, you cannot do nothing. and so it's a very separate thing, but that time it was not as a normal life in 2021, the people of guys and the new generation where they don't know what's happened. what was civil war, what was the telephone before or 1st dollar bar. and even during the 1st taliban, where despite of, i was incomplete, my, let's say cation. i lost my kids during the civil war. but i run underground school against the taliban policy, i'd say to cater to women and my society. would you? and that time, i never thought that i've got to stop will be connected back to the word and i've got to spend will be a part of that work. and luckily, today, the communication,

the connection to technology, the social media local in international media, the awareness among the people of got his final, which is still not gone from the spite of the great, still in the center. right. i mean, i me and give me hope, right. i don't believe taliban will change their mind and mentality unless as the alternative which is the people of got a son, should race and fight voices from the outside. so speaking to him about raising your voice became about raising your voice as well as technology. we do have a video that was sent to us rather an audio recording a message from someone who's anonymous. woman who is sending it to us from july about city, talking about how the fear factor really can, can take hold, take a listen. it is where it is katie, to talk about women in afghanistan as we are completely destroyed by the de facto

government, woman and girls in particular, affected by multiple forms of discrimination. and while in the same situation, is it myself and the responsible person of my whole, my family. but now due to the banning of woman will, i'm also not allowed to work. i got stuck at home. just let me know how to provide the basic food items to my family. so when you listen to that, you're here sort of her outline her personal situation, knowing how about factors into the scale of the humanitarian situation that's unfolding that you shared with us, that deepening what, what is something to pinpoint in terms of trying to address immediately what's the biggest danger to you? well, you know, just as i voice message was saying many of the women that work for our organization and for angie house, other morenchez across the country are the sold breadwinners for their families.

this is a country that has gone through 40 years of conflict. we have many widows. we have many female headed households. and most of these women are fearful of what's to come on. and on the other side, it's the beneficiary side as well. you know? because we have so many female had in households, it is essential to having women that we have women as a part of humanitarian response. as i mentioned 28000000 people in this country are in need of emergency urgent humanitarian support. um, compared to pre august 2021. we have an additional $6000000.00 people. um that are are facing hunger. we have over 900000 people that have lost their jobs over the course of that time period. the, you know, the, the worsening economy. you know, the economy collapse, it wiped out decades of what had been accumulated during that time. and at the end

of the day, it is ordinary afghans that are paying the price. we see the economic impacts even down to, you know, the currency i, i, you know, i have just a sub. this is, this is the notes that you can get on the streets in the shops here. if someone does have access to cash, these are the notes that they're getting, and often it's women that are getting the worst know, ah, what that means is that the humanitarian situation disproportionately affects women and girls. like so many of the are pressing situations there. i think the same could be said alley, you were nodding as we were listening to send me your outline, the humanitarian situation. and i think it's worth sharing with our audience. or perhaps you don't know to day reports that 70 people were killed just by the way, you know, the, the sort of wave of freezing temperatures that have been sweeping across the country in the last week that includes tens of thousands of cattle. i mean, you know, in the grand scheme of all the different things we're speaking about that may not

seem like such an important issue, but it, it is ali, what can you share with us about the humanitarian situation and, and also specifically, if there is any hope in the horizon what, what in your mind would be a way out of this saw crisis all the way out of the humanitarian crisis for the international community to understand that their sanctions, their aid restrictions, their banking restrictions, their cut backs all of that, even their suspension of aid and assistance work i is not affecting the taliban in any way. you know, it's not affecting the taliban leadership. it's affecting the avalon people. the reason have on people have old bank notes. the reason it's so difficult for them to take out money. the reason it's so difficult for them to transfer money, the reason they're such a capital flight and businesses are afraid to invest and enclosed their offices. and you know, media outlet shut down. all of this is because of the lack of investment in afghanistan. you know, it during the day western back to slum and republic,

75 percent of the government expenditures came from foreign aid from different types of foreign aid. and so when you take all of that away, what you're doing is you're not starving. the foreign minister, the tall, a bon, you're not starving. i, you know, that, that minister of interior, any of these people who may be on blacklist and sanctions, and so on. you are starving. the kinds of people that sam, you know, needs to reach out to. well, well, with that kinds of people that i run into on the street, whether with that really clear and level headed critique, i mean, that makes a lot of sense. but i'm wondering, you know, the un security council has made all these calls, right? they call in the taliban to reverse a policies that are targeting women and girls in afghanistan on tuesday. i believe the security council also called for, you know, full equal and meaningful participation of women and girls in afghanistan. it sounds, i mean, you know, you're kind of laughing and i don't, i'm not trying to say you're laughing at what's being said, but you know what's gonna come next in terms of the next question out of my mouth.

i mean, these things sound lofty and we, we shouldn't dismiss them, but in the absence of opportunities for the ngos that are working on the ground or what is what is in your mind. really going to change in the short term, the trajectory of the country in terms of its humanitarian crisis. like i say though, the only thing to really change the humanitarian crisis is for the world to accept that the more you cut off the country of, of honest on as i said, you're not cutting off the foreign minister. you're not cutting off the interior minister. you're not even cutting off how about the law the so called so he said coming mondays, are the key paid coming the the money coming keep not just a and i think i the other level for twice i only we we, when we were made into this ridiculous aid based economy, no one actually worked on development and creating long term, long term sustainable foundational economy that can, that can sustain itself. you know,

we can't just keep relying on aid. there has to be some work towards a real sense of a sustainable economy. where, where people can work for themselves and provide for themselves. you know, we can't just keep focusing on handle what's been happening or close to korea. go ahead, jump in, jump in. yeah. yeah. and 1st of all, is there any accountability during the last air one year and 7 months at taylor, missouri came and all in his one year when $2000000000.00 number $12000000000.00 just for an 8 that went to their pocket of tal about i only mention it or to day one for so so way i just wanted those foreign and i just want to did it go to you. i'm not getting rid of the taliban. so click un, it went in and you went on it. i would say you might and saying it goes to them through private banks. it does not go to the taliban. ok, continue in themselves, but all banks, let me let, let, let's not, it's not are you. i just wanted to challenge you on that. let's not argue this. i'm

not arguing that what's your point, your 100 give my point is the central bank of afghanistan on receiving that 8 or anything money and that many supposed to go to those people where samira is working. we all know the united nation with it, they don't have any kind of relationship. the central bank is not the independent body. it's a body which is running by taliban. and that's why their order is going to own either. so i've been social korea, i appreciate the point. i want to give samira quickly. yeah, honey, go students pocket of tom, but we are not saying to stop form a hot. we are ok. ok. okay so, so i appreciate your point. i'm just because i'm, i'm in and out as a mirror on i want to ask you summer, what do you make of that allegation coming from sir korea and where do you see the primary focus meeting to be well, the $2000000000.00 and $8.00 that has come to this country over the course of the

last year has been implemented through the united nations as well as international and national organizations on the ground. this $2000000000.00 is what prevented of hamlin famine in the country last winter. while we are feared this winter, as mentioned by a li, it's minus 20 degrees here in cobble, let alone the rest of the country which gets far colder. people are having to decide between food and heating and that decisions becomes even more difficult with the worsening economy. and as humanitarian aid organizations are, who have suspended their operations, due to the fact that women are not able to work in a, in our, in our organizations, in across many sectors. but what this will mean is that if we're not able to deliver aid at the same level, if not more than what we did last year and use that money that we received over the course of the last year, this is going to be a horrific winter for the afghan people, right,

i appreciate you making that point. i want to play for you just one other. i saw this is a video listening to mothers explaining the situation. take a listen. i'm so the beginning of winter, our situation has been very bad. we spent 2 months with support of some of our friends bed during the last 4 days. our financial situation has worse and we didn't even have anything close up on our bush with michelle out of my day. if my husband has to come here to receive aid, how will we find those 50 to 60 afghani is that he is earning. i have to come here at 9 am, but have not received the aid yet. so if he has to come, he will have to quit his job about a foot may wanna aaliyah any closing thoughts. can you leave us with a sentence or 2 that may be can, can instill some hope in this convo? the hope is that the avalon people are still trying to live their lives as much as possible and they are still finding ways tab sort of step out against the taliban. we've had elders come out and several provinces from conduct popped out to bombay.

i had won, i get instead, the high school limitations and 30 provinces. so little there is no movement, there is movement. and this is obviously a story that is gonna continue moving and we will move with that is all the time that we have for today. thank you, hourly. so could be a and the mirror for joining us will continue to follow updates from afghanistan. here on the stream, you can always find us on al jazeera, dot com ah county state control information. moscow is one of the most travail case in the world. it has an incredible facial recognition technology. how does the narrative improve public opinion better? no. walker asked, how is it, jim? listen, we framing the video spread like wildfire. they denied the practice or in your

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