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returned from italy. the testimony is a part of an al jazeera investigation in partnership with lighthouse reports and other media. defense ministers from 50 countries are meeting in germany to discuss the next steps in military support for ukraine. president vladimir zalinski is urging elias to send heavy weapons and battle tanks. steadfast reports from ramstein at bass. a lot of these things are already sold to other countries in europe, but there are waiting for germany to give approval for exporting them. ascending to him to ukraine. so what could be in the works is possibly a compromise saying that these tanks that could come from other countries that germany would allow it. but maybe they are very hesitant still to send their own lap or 2 tanks. basically at the german government and specify specifically a chancellor shaw says that he's worried about an escalation. if he would sandy's

battle tanks. the un says that 7 people have been killed in an attack on a camp for displaced people in the democratic republic of congo. it happened in a tory province where peacekeepers discovered mass graves. earlier this week, perused, president has called for dialogue. after thousands of protested held a 2nd day of mass protest to the capital lima there. calling for the resignation of deena bassetti at an end to political violence. a fires torn through a low income area of south korea's capital, forcing hundreds from their homes around 60 makeshift wellings have been destroyed . the white house is assured americans that congress will find a bipartisan solution to avoid a debt default that's after the country hit its $31.00 trillion dollar borrowing limit on thursday. there are fears a political showdown would on settle markets and hit growth. more than a 1000000 people joined a nation wide strike in france, demanding president mariama, cron drop his plan pension reforms. the changes include

a proposal to raise the retirement age. an actor alec baldwin will face involuntary manslaughter charges over a fatal shooting on a film says in 2021. he was pointing a gun on the set of the film rust when it went off, killing cinematographer. how let alena hutchins one is on a 0 after inside story, which is coming next. ah, germany is under pressure to supply ukraine to this most modern battle type of mind . germany is reluctant, while tank scene is so crucial in the war against russia. this is inside story. ah

hello and welcome to the program. i'm net clock. russia's invasion of ukraine is nearing its 2nd year and it's been a return to conventional warfare in europe. something that a would have been unimaginable 12 months ago while the death hall mounts the supplies military aid to keith has become an international political battle in itself. germany is under pressure to allow the supplier, its modern leopard 2 tanks to ukraine. the new defense minister gave little away in his 1st meeting with his u. s. defense, extra counterpart, lloyd austin on dissolve to negotiate all cardiac cindy's and signed is often during history, but especially during these times, germany and the u. s. are standing together when acting, but also during the concrete question i log in, it may be the tank zine, the patriot air defense on. so multiple rocket launcher garcia. german systems are proving itself in ukraine. what many?

well, political and business figures would be meeting in the world economic form and devils where the issue of german tanks for ukraine has been hotly debated both on stage and on the sidelines on diplomatic correspondent james bay's reports on the discussions. the world economic forum dabble looks at all the issues of the world, but among the e. u. a nato leaders here. a lot of the discussions have been about ukraine, of course, and about weapons for ukraine. president lensky. address the world economic forum by video link. he called for more air defense, more tanks and the focus. it's been very much on those tanks and very much on germany. germany has a main battle tank called the leopard too, but it's not just in german stocks. germany has sold those tanks to many other e u and nato countries. some of those countries, notably poland, would like to give some of that tanks to ukraine. but under the export regulations, when germany sold them, they have to get german permission at that permission has not come so far. so

a great deal of pressure on the german chancellor schultz who was here in boss. he was asked specifically about the leper to tanks. he dodge the question, he said that germany had provided a great deal of weaponry in the 1st year of this war. he said it would operate in lock step with its allies. and i think that means very much the united states, as well as the other nato allies. and of course, the u. s. hasn't said it's abrams main battle tank all you that to ukraine because it says it will be difficult for the ukrainians to operate in the terrain that exists on the ground in ukraine. chancellor shows also saying that he wants to avoid any cost of food all out war between nato and the nato members and russia. and so everything now moves, i think, after all, the discussions all this week that have been taking place, a devils to ramstein that important meeting of the u. s. airbase in germany, where defense ministers will be meeting to decide what now to give to ukraine. a

james base with an update from doubles. so let's take a closer look at the specs of the leopard to tank. it's been upgraded several times since it was launched in $979.00. currently it's used by 13 europe in armies. leopard to its violent for its maneuverability, it's lighter than other comparable models. the tank has recent battlefield experience letter forces in afghanistan use them, and left tanks and germany supplied to other nations require approval from berlin before they can be re exported to a 3rd country. and that means the tanks cannot be sent to ukraine without germany's permission. the alright, let's bring in august now join us live from wilcher in the united kingdom, retired british major general author dinero, he's also a former middle east adviser to the u. k. ministry of defense from london dummy sack the most so is a senior lecturer, insecurity and development at kings college,

london, and from berlin. and please say ben harris is johnny as the founder and editor in chief of b. e in telling. use a warm welcome to you all. busy general dinner, if i may start with you because it's one of examine just why there's such an intense focus on this issue of times. one might think that tank is a part of a bygone era sally to a lay man anyway, because in this age of long range precision missiles, you'd think that they weren't as potent as they once were. but i presume that's not the case, is still very valid. on the battle ground. yes, very about it. please bear in mind the listening to a very ancient chad general and you need to take that over the prince so. so having tanks on the battlefield contributes to what we call the all arms battle. and it's integration of that or arms battle that makes an attacking force

or a defending force, much more potent, the, your questions have got some good tanks. but, but as we have seen, that they're not that much better than the, the russians. and we have seen how damaged the russians tanks could be. with this latest and to turn weaponry, the ukraine's been supplied with these modern tanks, particularly the leper, the challenger. and abraham's all have very sophisticated protection against most of these modern weapons and having them on the battlefield in support of the infantry and under the long range support of artillery and is a game changer. right? again, change in what quantity general would they be required to be a game changer would you say is in reference to the very

gallant off of britain, squadron of tanks 40 in tanks. and we, we have to look at much greater numbers. way back when we, we went to to rescue to age, to liberate kuwait from 7 percent. jeremy, we had the allies had thousands of tanks then the british had over a $150.00. so the offer of 14 is, is very symbolic. and we were 1st doing it and we hope this might pull the others in. and i hope it does because 14 is not enough. and data is done at 10. i think i'd be right in saying that times would be the most powerful direct weapon provided to ukraine. so far, even though at the moment the numbers for some way short what is required certainly by ukraine i. yes, of course to that we have to. he mars, which i'm proven,

very effective. i'm sort of long range itinerary systems. so i think we shouldn't forget about about those as well. and what is interesting is how much they're going to time the tides in ukraine favors. so i think with that shows that when times or other sort of western middle mandate delivered to ukraine, can really have an impact on the back. and that's why the delivery of these times is so relevant. i'm and i would agree with the previous speaker that it really would have to sort of assist ukraine and trying to sort of carry out more effective offensive operations and also be able to operate more effectively in defensive positions as a kind of also some kind of more mobile to resource, and at the moment i think this is very important and that it also comes together

waste addition to your ammunition and also posted me, you know, hydrogen so that the whole combination of forces can operate now more effective offensive manner and been iris what about the russian capability? what would it mean for the russian side of things? if you know convoluted convoys of tant, joined a ukrainian offensive, how would it change things? do you think? i think it would be significant as a general state, if enough tanks were sent in in number 2 to the right appeal. i mean, you have to put this into the context. was this coming up now? and the battle now has sort of ground down to a stalemate. i mean, in september we had this remarkable offensive cancer offensive by the ukrainians in the hockey region. and they broke through the russian defences and then went to like a nice through, but pushing them back, liberating hundreds of kilometers. and then sure the at the end of that month they, they recaptured kennestone as well. but now now the fighting is come down. the

russians done their partial mobilization. they brought 300000 fresh troops into the, into the field. and the front line has stabilized. and the epi center, the fighting now is around modes and the best region. and so the damage apparently is just fall into to the russian side. but that fight has been going on for months and we're talking in a couple of meters a day if that and it goes backwards and forwards. and so the $22.00 sites now butting heads, but nobody has the advantage. if you were to bring in these powerful times, these offensive weapons, then that would make a huge difference if you bring them in enough number. because then you can master the go on the offensive and attack the russian defensive and push them back. poland president do the devil's yesterday called on the west and a 100 of these leopard twos. and i think around to thousands of them scattered throughout europe or their self as about $250.00. and $100.00 liquids on the field

would make all the difference because again, as the general said, that they're about 20 tons heavier than anything. the russians have got the $270.00 choose, which is the word close of the russian side. and the arm around them is significant, and russia doesn't have things like the american made javelin that the gradient in order to take these tanks out so that they would be a real game changer. and i think that's what people are looking at is like getting frustrated at this deadlock 100000 people have died on both sides with no one making any progress. and so the ukrainians is saying right enough with the defensive weapons, with the patriots, with the javelins that you senses, these have been very useful. give us some offensive weapons so that we can actually win the school and push the rushes back over the 1991. and it's ok and general say, we've been alluded to it just then, but any big scale offensive would need by ukraine. that is, would need to be backed up by air and ground support. right?

yes. that. and because that tank gives the ground forces maneuverability, which is benz just told us, you know, has ground to a halt in order to maneuver. we've got to have mobile, well protected, hard hitting fall apart, and anything that can deliver that is the tank. and the leopard is, is perfectly formed for that one. and of course it's handed by so it's, it's not going to take long to get it into ukraine and, and it is relatively easy to operate compared to some aspects, certainly of abraham's and, and of challenger. but it's the maneuverability and the protection that, that affords this berry hard hitting bit or kit that makes it such a potent force. all right, so that, that's the kind of the battlefield landscape. don't tell why do you think germany

has been just so reticent or reluctant in committing to providing these german maintain why it's important to know that there were doctrines come primarily from the chancellor on a show. so i think she arbors and his party are very worried about his condition, about a potential conflict between russia and nato, germany being involved in that. and now i think i'm exaggerated because, you know, germany even start by authorizing the delivery of those countries which have them already. and that wouldn't necessarily involve germany itself. there is a lot of concern in german, you know, in, you know, in certain orders as being seen as being sort of part of our quarter friends too. but i think that is a really wrong approach. but there is, i think, a very strong in a way, sort of tradition in germany. and what is interesting is that on actual united you,

you really was part of a passive tradition. and, and he was sort of very much as a runtime nato politician. although, you know, he evolved, allowed to go out, you know, he's political career. and as we know, he gave his famous speech on our, you know, and at the start of the war in ukraine where he talked about to, you know, how germany had to change its course and re on me again the phrase on the russian fact. but at the same time, i think there is a very strong reluctance, and i think it's probably looking at public opinion which is slowly shifting on there is increasing support for so called freeing the leopards. but i think that, you know, deep inside, i think it's very reluctant to, to see germany because of its history during the 2nd world war. and also during the cold war. and germany was divided, occupied by the soviet union. and germany could be a potential c, a don't war, you know, that they can repeat things. so there is a very,

sort of ingrained deep historical, sort of narrative that a strong in certain quarters in germany. that in a way putting a break. but i the keys, i get that child increasing number pressure from inside his own condition by members of the green party on the p. yeah. let me just bring been in the dos and contradictions here on that because you have this kind of this german reluctance. but i mean, although i had a back in february last year, i love schultz was, you know, mounting this historical turning point for jimmy ram puppets. defenses, which many said that was something extraordinary since they hadn't done that since world war 2. and even today we're hearing about the the new german defense minister talking up. germany's need to strengthen defenses as the keyword is defense. and what we're talking about here is a war with russia, which is, you know,

the tank offensive weapons. and let's step back and understand the context. this why i mean, for the service was germany has this history, i mean, uniquely, almost unique in europe is for the russian and lost and doesn't want to repeat that experience. i mean, they're more sensitive than anybody else. but the overriding goal of nate, so in general, in germany in particular, is not to help the grain is beat the russians. first and foremost, it's 1st and foremost is to prevent world war to prevent a direct conflict between 9 so and russian. no one wants to go there, and that's one of the reasons why we've been pouring in defensive weapons in order to make sure that you lose this war, which is not quite the same thing as making sure it wins this war. and we've now reached the point with the stalemate where everyone is getting frustrated, hundreds and thousands of people die. so there's now a push to abandon that and to give, give ukraine some offensive weapons,

such changed violence. and the reason why germany in particular is so nervous because it's unpredictable how the remnant will react. i am so far, perchance indicated that he hadn't got a problem with supplying defensive weapons in so much as the russia still has. the advantage on the field, both incense of artillery and men, and that he can just grind the ukrainians down. and if you put offensive weapons that change the, the type of the war, and so your crimes advantage then all the new really scary possibilities, including tactical nuclear weapons appear. and that's really what's behind this hesitancy. and it's not just germany, i mean, yet spoken from nato said, right, but again, it's conflict. our top priority is to avoid level 3. second priority is to help you train defend itself, and it's doing an amazing job. something that nobody was expecting. right? general denied, you can concur with that. all you know, there is the other argument that defeat for ukraine,

that in itself could lead to well, 3 yes, it could, and it's going to be difficult to predict which way it's going to fall. and whether the supply of these tanks, which are in the main and offensive, but also huge and useful in any form of defensive posture, is going to affect that balance and done. i'm, you know, i'm going to very difficult to predict that. i said, bend. we talked about the united states and germany themselves said that, you know, the u. s. has been sent to the tanks and if they do that, then we will at why do you think the u. s. is reticent as well as the saying says, i mean nobody wants to start with russia because then you know, it all becomes extremely unpredictable and becomes extremely scary. and with the need to exchange between the major powers and the americans to have also further

this policy of supplying largely defensive weapons, the peer pressure amongst europeans. and you've got some countries in europe like the polish and the baltic states in particular that are very anti russian, very pro. ukraine wants to see these heavy weapons put in and others sitting on the fence. and people are hungry, of course, friends with foods. but for the americans, i mean, shelters is trying to pass the buck. he's getting a lot of pressure from all the other members, particularly the more aggressive ones to send these tanks and germany has the largest defense sector in europe. and so everybody's got german weapons and you can exploit and she's playing with that gym mission. and she'll said this week, i think it was just yesterday that if the american send the abraham times their times, then germany will policies. so he's passing the board to the americans, but then the american society, and i think you report to said that,

that they are reluctant to send that thanks to because they're not suitable in the, in the terrain. you know, we're talking about huge, flat agricultural land. this is the perfect germain 4 times and i do a more of a necessary because the so little cover. so i have sounds a bit like an excuse. and again, on the english side of the case, i'd rather they sent 14 times, which is a gesture, like the general said, you have to send much, much more than 50100. thanks would make a difference. so we're not seeing that too. so everyone's putting their punches, i think it ramstein tomorrow, what we'll see is the cave to the pressure that he's under. but there will be a token gesture of a dozen methods that will be sent from holland. say, you know, is it take the pressure off to, to do something more to help you. but again, not going far enough, not sending a percentage of $100.00 times, but would actually make a big difference on the battlefield because of the fear of provoking russia to go to the next level. doing mass mobilization, putting

a 1000000 people into the field and overrunning the crime, and then start taking. i'm a jumps in poland. really frustrating reactions. and tell me, until i have just tell me about to this point about a potential russian defeat, especially in the light of what the former russian president to meet you meditative has said that the defeat of a nuclear power in a conventional war may trigger a nuclear wall one, i think that they've been beckoning, but use of nuclear war now for several months, even before the start of the war, which was talking about this rates. if there was an attempt on, on crimea by the ukraine. yeah, i was, i think, you know, we have to take that into consideration, but it shouldn't be a sort of a sense to terrance. i think that we have to be cautious. but i think that would be highly unlikely that russia sort of starts sort of a major nuclear exchange. wait, wait there waste. i mean there is also a producer for start to nuclear weapons,

but i mean, what were they really achieve? and i think that the americans have made it clear that if there is a use of tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine, the americans are major, would intervene even with conventional forces on the other would be a very high risk to the regime of president for team. so i think that are often, many of the statements are empty threats, but they have to be taken serious d. i'm at the previous ecos notate, you know, the question of collation is in everyone's mind. so you know that we caution, but at the same time, you know, we now have to consider that we are turning point because russia is ready to mobilize a very high number of, of soldiers engaging its, its entire sort of economic infrastructure and industrial infrastructure towards the war effort, the production of tanks as you know, and other times of me trick me. that could be

a potential use for very much to russia in the back and see ok. we just run out of town. we want to finally come to a general general setting all these munitions to ukraine. it crosses my mind that it's not just depleting countries of their own defense capability and to make the world a more dangerous place in that sense to i don't think so. what i read is important here is the speed of decision making because there's no doubt that to change the temper of this conflict and to get it resolved. we need to support the ukrainians with tanks and the american consent does in, in smaller numbers. because clearly the distances and also the training on the brands is more difficult. the british already planned to send a squadron, and the, the, the real answer is for the leopards to be supplied by the various countries who got

them. because they're on the board is ready to go, and they are much easier ready to operate. alright, well, what's closely how this pans out in the coming days, we have to leave the thank you to all our guests after dinner, dmitri said mercer and been ours, and thank you to watching. you can see the program again. anytime by visiting a website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at a j inside remain the clock. the whole team here is the, me ah,

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