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this is inside story. ah. out of our welcome to the program, i'm nick clark. so plans by the indian government to stop the spread of fake news online and making headlines themselves. proposals include giving a state run agency, the power to decide what's false, and what's not the critic say it gives the government new powers of censorship, limiting media freedom, and putting journalists at greater risk of prosecution. while the proposal is an amendment to a 2021 law and is at the consultation stage, and it gives the ministry of electronics and information technology. the power to prevent social media platforms from publishing, anything deemed to be disinformation decision on what qualifies as fate news would

be made by the press information bureau, which is a government agency. the editors guild of india says proposal amounts to media censorship and will stifle government criticism. take talk and more than 300 chinese apps have been banned with the government, citing data security concerns. the popular video game pub g has been blocked for the same reasons. the. all right, so let's bring in, i guess, now from new delhi, we are joined by shipler, who's a journalist in the founder of news bred website and moved by we have run a, she's a global opinions writer at the washington post. and then usually we have another nasa who is the general secretary of the editors guild of india. i should just say we did reach out to the governing b. j. p. party, but nobody was available. so let's press along. will welcome to you will and shook

life. i may start with you. so 1st of all, so this move, do you support it? and if so, why do you think the b j p think it is necessary? i think we need to 1st to understand whether the media is being blogged or whether the intermediaries of social media are being a device to take on news, which they feel could cause trouble. and which is a fake news. now b, i b that is pressing for mission bureau which has been tasked which has effect checking unit since 2019 not day on their own. do not have enough men to kind of monitor or send the spread of news which you most of us find every day and over. social media exchange it with you feel are not right. not as censorship of media. it is just advisory by the government to the intermediate use of social media that

they should pull up their socks and been there is a fake news which could cause undressed. and we know there have been multiple instances in recent years, which we would come to later. their fake news has been spread and kind of inflamed to cause unrest. wireless lives had been lost and in most cases say in her case is bared. we have borders in berlin and bengal audit and when gosh moon, it could be a security issue. ezra, okay, i me let, let me just let me stop you there. i'm going to bring and run a now a run of what do you make of what you've just heard. there is a need for it. faint news on social media is there. it is destructive in his potentially harmful to society. let's begin with i think the must acknowledge that into a has a very big misinformation and disinformation problem, like most democracies around the world which are dealing with nuisance and not just the editors. good. but also that, did you, bob?

does this list that you were digital publishers has come up with a very, very strong statement which, which recognizes that there is upgrade of fake news as my previous the previous speaker right acknowledged that there is a problem. that fake news is leading to community tensions in india, where fake news is leading to narratives against people. but given that there are no checks and balances, you have given arbitrary, bothers to somebody to decide what is fake, who decide, especially when many members of the ruling party themselves have been fact checked by fact. taking that sides or the last couple of years every all day you see a member of the government, big fat chick. the has seen that big news and watch that forwards. instagram. big dog has been one of them are actually black counselor. big news is why do a lot of times to target are minorities, communal situations,

activist descent bills. jonas, we are dealing with the misinformation problem, but instead of dealing with the problem, what we have got here is that is giving over to the bible is i believe, who a northerly agency which was now decide what is weak and what does not weak. and by if you will, end up sensing news and journalist who you might not agree with, that's what my bigger field is, what our checks and balances seo. and that is my bigger concern in a, you know, when jonas and india have been at the doctor at the receiving end of the government in the us, not the one to it position from one. what a 2nd. in the book, chris freedom indexed at this point of time in that keys, which is why i believe both the it does good or the did you bob or the jaundice probably who of at least they had concerns about this. i think i did absolutely little concern. we have to be with the med of big news, but this is not the right approach. alright, you mentioned the, this is gilbert. speak to the general sector and i'm not an and the medium. the

media should have freedom of expressions as a government, but not freedom of a distortion. so let me, let me pick up from it on a mentioning the trip i was given to the id. so let's understand what is the rule of breast information. even if you didn't be set up by the government to give information effectively to it, it's sort of a, b r form, which tells you, can we get large on the activities of government organizing? actually this conferences, so on and so forth. bob to regulate news has been given to you just see which is not authorized to do that. so 1st continental, our issue is that this problem, the sweeping powers without any procedures, without any mandate, without any strictly empathy for it, has been given when you didn't see who, who works is to get information about government activities to news media. but that's the fundamental problem and then there are problems relating the procedures set up, but those are all going to be funded mental problem in net also keep in mind press

information go to the doctors of emergency was the agency that was in getting incentive they will be sent to shipping news media, the newspapers and magazines which were under that list at the 1st get the point in verified by the defense of the proof that will be allowed to publish the news that was declared emergency. what the government now has done has taken, you know, sort of has it impacted and undecided bits. and censorship has been given to the subsea mckenzie, which was so interesting, you know, exciting that arbitrary public back then. and that is the thing she says. now this is akin to censorship, isn't it? the determination of what is or what isn't fake news should not be down to a government body. it should be down to an independent body. surely i do not know what is the problem here. i'm really confused. now this b i b thing which one of my fellow speaker has pointed out doesn't have that target

the this fact checking unit whether be a be, was stablished in 2019. it was done after that gum and introduce that scheme of me . but we are younger through to, to be kind of invited to join me for a specific period of time. and misinformation led to huge orleans and they're very worthy scheme, which everyone has come to acknowledge and all was kind of attempt was made to daylight. what are the fighting here? you see the p i be on it's on cannot glam, don't. i mean, how do they clam down on us? what they're seeing is that the intermediaries are to be wise to take don, fake news. it is not the mainstream media or the journalists who are being censored . it is the watch subgroup like the ugly, but after that you put steam was really witness those violent scenes around the country. some $25.00 boss group or what's up group were found to be propagating

foss information and which was talking the bullets. and similarly, we haven't sensors very recently when the government on multiple youtube channels trying to cause undress and you're trying to cause so misinformation. i understand all, forgive me for interrupting, but the bottom line is that the question i post you is, why can it not be an independent body independent of the government? because otherwise it's very easy to make the criticism. this is about controlling public opinion in the governments favor, we all know how sensitive issue of social media is. so why not just make an independent body. you see, even if you make a body, this be a big thing which is in the bone of contention at the moment in its own dick, i'll kind of monitor the entire social media. it is not gain of some overreaching dystopian, no body, which is trying to monitor what is happening on social media, which nobody could do it. in fact it and weiss, people like you and me and everyone has to kitchen where they feel some information

is being fed, which is not good, which is wrong. see, fake news must be stopped. and who does it now? you said you'd appoint an independent body, will decide and which they are not asking the newspaper. so take down the news report. we had instances the news. newspapers are told that this urban news is fake or this new stratification that the newspapers duly carry. the according and am, if some mutual kind of interactive ting, and that's why the people's free numbers not being curb. they can do whatever they want. but in case there is a clear case of why alicia, there is a kick, is off trying to stalk trouble in every wallet i learned a atmosphere and games and hugely populous country. all the government is saying that intermediaries, please take it down in terms of use means facebook, social media or other social media. i sent one router, let me bring it run over. i run, i can see that you want to come in. no,

i was just a little amused because i'll be on, you know, if you like the a living in ideal way in india. unfortunately, they're not living. and i do believe in india, they are living, i could die. and then most of the mainstream news channels had become enablers of propaganda. then the government, they be beans, every article, globally, as propaganda. so when something like this comes into picture, why are we not to be why? and i got mentally been everything critical. i speak news then how, how is why ashanti? i been what and then was, was the ranking pointing out how i me as your neck as media in india, especially independent media, which all they need is the brand of the government. when, when it spokespersons of the government have coined us agents of all sorts of means on how are we to be assured that today the government is not using this to cook critical studies. we're talking about what's out forward, the kind of whatsapp or words that come to us in the form of we by members of the

ruling party that in their ready nature, our faith, we will the government do any intersection of its own. will the government stop? beacon which is being fed by its own party officials. i mean, if you, if you got any, if you got any factor in that i, before i came under the show, i check on the news boom, life and 2 other fact ticking websites. some of the dock tactics new stories may not be to be spokesperson leaders. so why should we not be bothered in a concrete bad journalists? are the new enemies of the state. i think we have every reason to be voided because like, i mean has pointed out that this and the b line b, which is a body which is absolutely like a b r body of, of, of the government. it's for the pope was it looks like is to sanitize the news that the government wants, and this is, i feel like it should not be seen in isolation on amendment to the of the drop amendment should not be seen in isolation. very recently, the nomination,

india has advise the supreme court issue that it was one of its own members of the government to be a part of the supreme court will issue. so they are trying to have this independence and all independent bodies. and it's a fact on which is why it's equilibrium for all of us. ok, just i'll let you come back to in a 2nd. and i just want to come to gina, is there enough support around to counter this proposal to, to not allowed to pass. so let me disconnect what a she said that he's, he's, he's been the legend of this isn't advisory that we have even get. this is not an advisory. the wording of the amendment is very clear that all intermediaries will take a reasonable efforts to bring down the content. so it is a big done. it was an instruction and things like it. um, what is it on that as well? yeah, i think i think that's me, but if you know that the person has to take it, don't put this is nothing short of taking it down. it includes all intermediaries

nor just switch to media platforms. it also includes google, it of louis, so intimately the site who has a frederick cox blanche sweeping part, was given to be id. secondly, you know the problem, of course, in the 2nd problem, what she pointed out that the doesn't have the strength to sort of factor, even if, even if somebody was given this kind of one party, we know that the, the selectivity what and i said they will stick to some kind of news, they will not be on kind of you. but anyway that's, that's again when the 2nd level problem. the question was, why wouldn't this be done with an existing body, which is an independent board or something like this come to look into, which is of course, the traditional body responsible on the parliament in which even what he doesn't have the authority to take don't want it, they can should have been a month, they can issue fine. whatever has been the procedure, even the section 16. i mean, i could tell the, followed a lot of the supreme court judgement in the famous 3 i think will come up with that

with the, with the, with the judgment that follow to lockdown has to be at the back of a very elaborate procedure. but even the person would need to the point that you're given a chance to prevent it. and then also there is a very elaborate procedure. this one is a very simplified feature given to a body which is part of the executive. furthermore, it has also been mentioned not to be any authorized, any type of central government, which we don't know what it would mean to come plus any bog take don't with respect to business and government basically giving a for it to be id audience to decide don't you know, any of the 40 which regarding government to face can also be brought down. ok, says is it just you think we need to move it on, but she's just just briefly respond to that if you would festival shipler. i personally feel that much of the level lewis is being done on,

on an on existing issue really in the sense that who is being hurt here. if the fig media, who controls the media, who controls the wrong news, which could cause which could cause life to be lost, families to be destroyed. and your body is seeking advice on the, on the to citizen. so a leader tell us where the news, the minute it is, not the newspapers, which are the center of governments attacked. okay, i mean, all right, good. have you made this this point before? so let's, let's move it all. now you mentioned newspapers i, she's, you would, i think agree that's an independent and free press. is the hallmark of any more than democracy, right? yep. has india got one right now? i think india has been of to nominate a lot of free of breast. we have, i personally feel i had been in england recently. i was in england last month and i couldn't access

a lot of websites and nobody moody's issue in craig about the freedom of press or not chris being muzzled. i in india has india, has a good, a free press. okay. that, that's the thing that's of the answer on. i just want to bring in a runner too, to respond to that. now, because she's keen to jumping serona, i said what, what do you make a guy? who will you ask? yes. is it possible for you to ask? are she that as a journalist? does he not find? it probably might be that the prime minister of the bliss, largest democracy, has not been a single best conference in the last 80 us. i need to understand what kind of press freedom is this. i need to find out if a jaundice consider the cup was been behind, but for the last 2 years i'm the general charges and money laundering judges. what a story did not report. i want to see what kind of mislead. hm is that i wasn't looking at the journalist missing a diesel has been behind bars. who was nude upon the biggest is he has been, he has been behind, but for the last 7 months on charges of terrorism. what are you going to press? we don't have a docking of, i'm sure. glad. i mean,

i'd be even you would agree with me that the prime minister of the country needs to address the media in the us. if you are not a single best conference, i'm sure we are decent journalist right. ok thanks, renee, i should respond to that means nice if i think it's done tired of is is hindering on whether the prime minister is as a media or not or opens himself to media or not. i think it is just been too touchy and, and shrinking real read all we're on the issue now. consider while it is not consider this manuel hansing for 8 years not even opened his mouth over where was the hue and cry about those years of congressman mon, muncie never did. just mediate all, even all his reward. i'm that you look at the was the man is doing media has been telling me, has been seeing things to more di and about more the rich sure is lake girl are burning oil in once year. i mean that they are abusive there and,

and there has been no punitive action taken by this government to say that media is being muzzled by and board. the vendor has been no instance. i mean that the state government would her run or tell me, or what would she say was happening and, and being all win montero and her g was pulling people from all the wasn't until now. i didn't want to luckily, and i didn't that the media. why listerman? one thing over the goal is doing the colgate and getting the duty. i'm being the, are they scanned? then i am i said beginning died investigation on the are they investigation in india? no, i don't know. i am young and rosa now frank. these news people as i, as frankly to on use of the washington post, may recently with an investigation on dea danny's i was them. i also am very much of the ended that crucial stories. i'd be not given the yesterday with the means the media has not reporting. you want to give me something that you like. do you not, what i mean for media is anything his extension of the governing as is to say just

where the 2nd now the idea that something you or less as is just one second, i wanna get a run of just to talk about one thing just very briefly cuz we're running out of time really got 3 or 4 minutes left of the show. just tell us very briefly kind of things that have happened to you as a result of your reporting. well, i think we're thing to me is just next week i have my book or summons on next monday. i'll go to somebody for an article i wrote in 2009, but acquisition against me. me a tooth number 2, and i'm a practicing muslim. hence, prejudiced in my observation, i have, i have been if i had to just do it against me in the state of good, not to go pull up your apartment b and b, b c may. i'm a cute that my television appearance, hospitalized in the, on the lines of community on and basically i'm polarizing indians on community lines. i have been, i doesn't find out against me. god, where i have been just wanted to meet. but i'm a, i'm a user splitting fake news. well, exactly what i did was published by almost every news publication. i've at least 7

different cases that i'm dealing with right now. so i really want to live in the same one that mr artist lives. and what we can do, i see, she requested doesn't sound like a thriving arena of media freedom. no, the one thing which, which, which are anna hasn't pointed out, is i'm not saying that she daily embezzled the money she had gathered for the public cause. but there has been, we have been hearing about the money which was collected from public funds and which accounts don't add up. so here we don't want to get into the specific issues, specific issues here as a lawyer. i mean to me because i need to move across guys, we just need to stop the 2nd. i need to move across to our next when you got a couple minutes left. and it said your overview of the state of press freedoms on the whole in india, tell us where we're at. so, you know,

picking up from one i was mentioning, the number of pieces that we launched against, or i see this as a structural problem. it is picture of the government or the party and the problem . the reality is that in getting media based on a very cumbersome legal, green book where there are enough and more exceptions to what speed which would be, which had been given enough to make the right, it says in the constitution that they're ranging from so, but entity dual community to have speeds and so on and community violence, so on and so forth. and it is an elaborate section of loss of speech, speech laws, criminal defamation official secrets, act. you will be a solution that isn't which of important the band last year by the supreme court. but the reality is these laws used very liberally by whichever government is impossible from the respectful of it from our north. and yes, there are instances where state governments have been extremely rec, when you were using is last because police comes under the jurisdiction of a state government. and this is

a problem that comes in the government are parties and the reality of the media. and the very vulnerable, extremely cumbersome legal system which makes the current law even more problematic because there are already nothing more laws that are used every day. press freedom including independence like it or not. but the other one which is more and on top of the government just missing the even more easy legally. and especially is, is using those laws with greater advantage or money of priests or no doubt. these discussions could continue for many more hours, but unfortunately run out of time. we do appreciate that. thank you so much for joining us. thank you to i guess around your as she's sure and not thank you so much and thank you for watching. you can see the program again at any time by visiting our website outage or dot com. and for further discussion gay to our facebook page, that is facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at

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