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hello, welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan, burkina faso. this military government has given french troops one month to leave the country. that's according to state media, french forces, or in the west african nation. as part of a campaign to drive out fighters linked to i sal and al qaeda. the un estimates that thousands of people have been killed since 2015, a. nearly 3000000 displaced by violence that's been blamed on armed groups. demonstrations against the french soldiers presence had been held in the capital. wow, good to go. bob rango reports ah, protested mckinney, patsy, have been demanding france withdrew. it's trips from their country. they say the former colonial power has failed to protect them from on grips. feed love,

want it. france was our partner. it was supposed to help us fight against terrorism . but since 2016 there has been no change. we think france doesn't deserve book and officers trust. now it's military re, let's have reportedly suspended the 2018 security a court with paris. they want french trips to leave within a month. france has been decreasing its deployments across the for hail region and officially ended this operation for connie last year. at its height, more than 5000 french trips were stationed, lou reaching to fight grips allah to al qaeda. and i saw 400 french trips remaining, became a facet. molly and the former colony ordered french trips out last year. some analysts say burkina faso is blaming france for his own failure to do with an insurgency which led to 2 military coups last year. france is the scapegoat folder, the president of french military prisons as not prevented the progress of g a. d. c

forces. so does resentment in a group population as it was in marie where even some, some demonstrators were complaining that france would be maybe, was a caprice off. some of the surgeries groups, gun as president has the keys, but can a facet of hiring the private russian army wagner group to crush armed fighters in this, a hail region. marley, hyde, the mercenaries. last year the u. s. u and, and others accused the group of committing widespread human rights abuses. the problem, of course, can only be more frozen in any way. we're, we're booked. what are what the governments are saying is they want to bring to the, to the prefer security partner violence in the west african nation has killed thousands of people and left to 1000000. people displaced these demonstrate as the demanding french forces go. but it's not clear how the military plans to reclaim 40

percent of the country outside its control. i pass out to sara. ah, well, let's discuss all of this with our guests. for today's program, we joined from ankara by a big way, a gray go who is so in barbara's report, he's apollo c as an analyst for red development, re imagined and africa policy consultancy from paris were joined by nea gully by gail co chair of the african security sector network and african affairs think tank . come from london. alex via this director of the africa program at chatham house. welcome to you all. and let's start with you a big way. what's going wrong in beacon of francis relationship with france and to what extent does it mirror what's happened in molly? yeah, i think one of the most important factor to organize with regards to the relationship with friends on from our group calling out with countries or countries ignored

school and. and that's where like my li, booking up also on car fog that there is a sewer divergence. in terms of approaches to addressing the immediate issue, which is security on to a large extent that are played out in all of the countries we're seeing in troops restaurant. we drove from couse at an umbrella last year, and i still think, well what, what do you mean by serious divergence? well, you, you only have to look at the fact that every coolant is content. of course we new friends with some partners. i've very much not condemned the schools and also because when you look at it, cause the media security policy or the approach is to align with it with a different player. perfect. but now which is which is russia. so of course, in the context of you couldn't go on serious new grievance in between the west and

russia. it is a much on team cable to expect that france would want to collaborate with the government. then close the services of, of a russian missionaries or work directly with, with the government of russia. ok, they've got a, is a facet blaming france for its own failures in ridding the country of these armed groups. i definitely things as there is a need to have an historical stance on the current situation in fact, or in a book enough i. so there is a tradition off protection of southern t, which is coming from the late leader, thomas sancho ha. and even a president which was others from last year or not cuz so cavalier was very reluctant to any presence significant on the ground of sin of booking affairs

. so it's important to know also that though there are some saba, which she's made of special forces from france as been, acted much more outside of booking. if i so rises an owns the book and i be so, and what is happening today is that there has been a growing tendency all civil society organizations on the streets, as well as off to become pinion at large to be very critical towards the french african policy a gun say when you're going to happen in malley: yeah. but it is important not to consider only that it is what is happening to there is only the after men. ok off. does a russian presence in booking? maybe going to white? why the dissatisfaction with the presence of french troops and among civil society,

those in civil society. i mean that if there's been an accusation that that france has been complicit with those that it's meant to be to be fighting. i mean, i was cretins to give to those allegations. absolutely. in fact, what happened is, as the big affair soon back can, which was meant to fight terrorism. and in fact, to naturalize, eat, i've been completely failing from this prospect. and it's been a lot of surprise in the eyes of the african public opinion, as i definitely can not understand. the reason why such a modern and a technological army with lot, sofa or armament to deploy, as been absolutely unable to cope with a g. heidi insurgencies, and what happened is that there's been a growing a trouble in the public opinion and also lots of floods, surveys, brilliant in france, as having itself, critique terrorism or in a, in

a western africa. and as a feeling it's rises and fight it and dis kind offer of for plot terry's. have the met a lot of success among the senior society so called penetrate any organizations as well as more broadly in the oh, collision at large or at the look good. pick up the point you were making there and put it to to alex vines in london. alex was, was france up to doing the job in the 1st place, were given them, but the limited number of troops that had put on the ground is not the u. s. it, it, but it doesn't have the resources to ploy to deploy thousands and thousands of troops . so the context is that throughout francophone west africa and particularly the saw hill that has been growing ambivalence amongst the populations about the relationship with france. this is nothing new. i saw it 20

years ago when i was working, even in a cook, deborah ivory coast and for the united nations, the, the insecurity. there was partly a response to the idea of from south freak neo colonialism. that france was to it, and twined into the politics and the economies of those countries. so, so that's the context of what france has been and dealing with the front french and intervention. and initially, in molly operation, savell was what was actually supported by africans and relatively successful. what you're absolutely right, that the but con operation that took place subsequently, i did not deliver the security that molly ins and, and of as a right across the region. we're hoping for, and i think that's the key to watch of the company in bettina with, with the booking up authorities, the jump to they're saying that the french special forces have a month to leave because in fact they haven't improved security, security is deteriorating. the big question though is what we'll replace it because

i'm not sure anybody else can provide security either to, to, to turn the situation that is ready to, to rated it. but this, this was a region alex that the france once dominated, as you said, it's been, it's been gradually losing influence in recent years. i mean, why, why is that? how will will parents deal with that in the long term? is it just going to turn it back on the reach and do you think? no, i mean, president micron last year announced a reconfiguration of the french security posture in west africa. so it's a lot more focused on the coastal states. countries like a could debra ivory coast, it assumes a continued presence neija, and it looks at how it can compliment of our initiatives that are developing that are driven by african nations them selves. so regina, that, that was something called g 5. so i held that hasn't been working very well and

includes both molly and became a faster, but also something now called the prior initiative, which also includes patina. and so that's what i think france is now looking at of how it can mulch electrolyze through african partners in these initiatives to, to, to provide security. what is a very clear is a, at the coastal state themselves, a very worried about contagion into their own terror or trees or, or she had his groups if it created either to al qaeda or i still. and of course to have been attacks. now in play in the north of photo, in the north of benny, that the gun hands are very worried about contagion from fafsa of connect. let's pick up on that point and put it to a big weight. what, what does the removal of french troops from bucket of fi, so mean for the security situation right across the region, given that they've already gone from molly to of course,

there's an immediate impact and it's in that too large extent. the book and looking at bustle, military and major is in, in new jersey in molly wouldn't have to step up the book. i mean, let's be serious. do not have the capacity not that they have in the compet, the competence of abilities are going to deal with this problems. it doesn't mean that it can long beaut, such capacity is bought and pumped from the meat, immediate onset. i think i got a lot of problems on that. also be a mind that it's under the $5000.00 troops. that's different. how did they were over 15000 un peacekeeping force, what community support and all of this countries part of we knew smart, right. me new smart enough itself has not been able to even deliver only the objective of its monday. so i think the real problem, if you,

if you don't come to us 16000, that is what 202-0000 forces on you come up. i mean, the man armies about 21000 for instance. right? so it is a huge loss. but that is why it is really important to stress that the new secret park massive that for me, russia, he's just not going to address this problems because russia cannot provide, never this kill of in a military support that it needed. what kind of quote it is most in control of 40 percent of his 30. that is just one country. and i didn't see i don't see how it is possible for mr. contractors to be able to walk with the, with the army that is fully equipped. and that is that of course not, we're trained to be able to recover the searches initially if we need a period of time of georgia and see that this call this a joint as a proposal. so i think is going to be very, very challenging on they have to be very, very careful because they won't just agreed upon it, which will cost, you know,

diplomatic cost and financial cause. that is why dentist, we more thinking would have got to the choices of this book, much new girl. how much of a humiliation is this for france will withdraw the french troops from both peculiar, facile and molly. strengthen the armed groups operating in the region. will it create as, as ivory coast president has said, a security vacuum in the region. i seen such a as sir, just to explain by my colleague, we cannot considers as friends as met any difference on the ground, nor any other international partner. and it is also the case of for a russian or private security company wagner, because we can see as for instance, in my li as our been attacks, very close to about macro, only a 50 and kilometers from forms of capital. so i not sure that it is from an nope

irrational of point of views, that there will be a lot or all fir consequences with the french retreat from booking affair. so where we have to remember is that the special forces where only around $400.00 a people. so i think what is very important today is to realize that there is a need to develop a very different approach to these questions. including in terms of a political perspective to what is happening in the wall. so hell, and it is a fact an approach which has been developed presently by new year, which is both working with french troops. loo, having a very close relationship with russia and a jerky in terms of the armament, but is also trying to develop dialogues with certain risk groups,

including these slamming states and other groups related to ida itself. let's turn our attention to the presence of russian mercenaries on the ground or in the region alex on. i'm gonna throw up a bunch of questions i do hear who's paying them and why, what's for mandate? what, what's the legal status of a, any better of bringing peace and security to the region than, than the french well, the, the russian mckesson res wagner had been invited in they were invited in by the molly in, lee. i renew my rated, allegedly, through access to, to mineral resources. and he's also the allegation that the president of don and none of who for, i'll do, is made to about the involvement of wagner. if it is confirmed in between a faster. and we've seen that else where they are

increasing and it looks as if wagner is being recognized as an exemplary force from the russian federation. the majority of wagner is obviously deployed now in, in, in occupied territories of ukraine fighting the ukrainians, or, but there are, there is presence in africa. the track record of wagner in africa hasn't been spectacular by any means lately. abysmally failed in trying to provide security along the east african coast in the province, a couple delgado in at like 2019 they have provided a praetorian guard up situation of security for the, for the, for the foot. but for the presidency in the central african republic. and has both your other speakers have alluded to they haven't provided improved security at a, in, in molly. and i'm very doubtful that they're going to be able to do that also in bertina

fafsa. in fact, i think what we'll see is server fragmentation in both molly and in between a fact so of the military jumped us because of the end of the day. the driver is here, are about improved security. and it's clear to me as your previous speaker said, that the solution here is a product of military companies, but it is about finding dialogue and finding incentive settlements. what you have here, basically, ah, regimes based around and capital cities are weird. which of anchor increasingly got disenfranchised with the rest of their countries. and there lies the big problems that molly and our booking officer increasingly have in that sheets of mice administrations that are just in control of the capital cities and are having great difficulty in providing security gone beyond them. a big way. why is russia currently seen as a better pastor, a partner in the region than france?

what's in it for russia? what's, what's it's strategy in the region? but i think russia definitely is a plain, private military diplomacy. it's a bit so be relationship with africa. countries. you have to look at it current eventually in africa, in the context, so its own global standing, right? we know, of course the rochester to boost image on trying to reconnect beaut allies off the so possible for me. but my shift, so should i say not isolated. so of course this is, this is part of its default on why is use try the yes jane. it was to speak right now the upper miss davis africa for instance. right. and that's the 2nd 2nd visit in 9 months. so it shows that little focus on, on the radio, was specifically when this countries in question from the french colonies. i think it is clear that one of the reasons why it didn't go,

this is june. does government in the case of a car preferred russia is the fact that russia can provide regime security that region security has to be understood as a very, very small solution to it when a very large problem, because this country don't have way more than we can security problem to have much less security issues that need to address. and therein lies that the, the not bit really is that net golly, it regime security. i mean inviting mercenaries in to provide security. the threats, the u. n. job, isn't it? we're going, what are the implications of all of this for the un and it's peacekeepers who are on the ground that so i'm not sure such as the situation or we can a see in the central african republic where indeed wagner's troops are protecting the government. is exactly the same in melee. in melee. you cannot see

armed troops or contractors from a wagner in the capitals are mentally deployed in the central part of the country around amok. d ended once her circles. so ender in brooklyn as regards their relations with the as u. n. a in as the central african republic. yes, it seems as there has been a kind of collaboration initially, but it is definitely not the case or inner in malay or in working for so you do not have any u. n. a deployment but what is happening in melee and which is also very likely to have happen in booking if i so is a rule of self defense. malicious which has been a growing in terms of importance. and we can see that in melina central. mellie, wagner's troops together with the 1000000 military are closely cooperating with

those local, malicious, and one of the option which is presently developed by the military governments in booking. if i so is presently to a support and a 2 ers strengthen those kind of forces. so we can see a new kind of agreement between troops from russia and does local minish camps. i'm sorry to, to, to cut you off with talk. time is against us here. i want to put one more question to alex and we haven't really talked about the groups operating on the ground or alex da while these on group so focused right now on the cell region and wising the u. s. in particular, interested in tracing them out like it did in iraq and syria. so the u. s. has been involved in the south. hell, anita, trained up mila trees, or in the region, an american have stage, cuz i'm, i'm so late in the u. s. right. but it's not, not,

not to the extent that it has in, in iraq and syria, for instance, not a day and not, not to that extent. it also has a footprint still in asia. there is a driving facility that but that room. but that the main point is that the united states, i had hoped that he could sub to sub contract. the majority of responsibility for foot for chasing he had his grips to touch the tent to european partners. seeing this is european net, they're abroad. so that's france. but it's also of a states like likes plain. i'm italy and others i and washington, i think his discipline pointed that france is on the but back for that is my understanding of the way the washington is looking at this. and they still provide intelligence. teach it to france and, and of, of a western pop. okay. there we're gonna have to end it many thanks and aid to we're all of you a big way away. go niggley by gail co and alex vine set. thanks for being with us here on inside story, as always,

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