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government african national congress party. as africans are suffering, shed your power of 6 to 10 hours each day. those are the top stories you're up to date. stay with us. the stream is next to asking what israel's new government means for palestinians. we will see you a bit later. bye bye. hope process is set to visit the democratic republic of congo and south to dawn in a trip that has meant to heal the wounds that are still bleeding. fill the pontiff to visit, start a chapter of peace and reconciliation, ending the internal conflicts of these 2 nations. enough for count on al jazeera. ah, welcome to the stream, i have a dean, israeli citizens put prime minister benjamin netanyahu back in office for a 6 term since then he's formed the government with ultra nationalists and ultra
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orthodox parties and filled key ministerial positions with far right leaders, palestinian, still reeling from one of the deadliest ears in decades, worry that settlements will expand, violence will increase, and the occupation will become all the more permanent. today we ask, what does israel new far right government mean for palestinian? ah, joining us to discuss from occupied eastern slim journalists july because that also in occupied east jerusalem, yada hawaii senior analyst, and sat back out of the palestinian policy network. and with us from port to a leg gray, marianne at the palestine correspondent for mando life. and of course, we want you to join the conversation, so be sure to share your thoughts and questions with us right here on youtube. so much to discuss, i want to start with a very simple question. let's just go starting with you,
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mary. and let's start with you. how would you describe this government in one word? fashion, yada, israel, data, predictable, israel, fastest and predictable. all right, so those are some key terms to maybe frame this discussion. i'll ask you met him, how is this new government fashion and what really sets it apart from the previous governments? how will this impact palestinians? i think the only thing that the government apart from other governments is the way it is for trade media other than not very on brands. they true to the essence of the israeli project, which is an ethnic thing. and it is driving policy out in order to replace them demographically. and yara, when you say israel,
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is it just more of the same? what did you mean by that? i mean, how do you think or has the new government already started to impact palestinians their daily lives? i mean, the reason i said it was israel is because this is the true face of israel. it doesn't hide behind a liberal facade which has done so to so many decades. i'm already feeling the, the full on the effects of this very crude regime. you know, it's not, it's not necessarily super different from what's come before, but that's me much more violent in their rhetoric towards palestinians. and this isn't boating certain actors in society. namely, the settlers in the west bank who are using this as a greenlight to go all out against palestinians. and when she talks about the settlers july, i'm curious, you said predictable. are you worried that there will be increased subtler activity that this will impact palestinians and what about it? what about maybe some of the key ministerial positions might be making you worry
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about for the way i saw this coming when i 1st started is it's a, it's a fit, a very natural result of where israel is today. of it's a natural progression of what israel is become, what we saw in the past years of set through expansion and violence and all the horrible apartheid in whatever we saw. it's only going to get a fire truck with this government is, is going to put a fast track, it would be amplified, it would be only increased. it's not going to be different than what happened before in different governments, but it's just going to be put on even on steroids. it's israel on steroids with this specific government. that's why israel's are protesting, by the way, that israelis are opposing this government because they fear that they will lose the status quo for pressing palestinians and the whole world to remain silent. this government is just wanting to fast track the ethnic cleansing an expansion and make
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it all go happen cluster. and that's why i'm concerned. and you know, i appreciate you outlining those concerns in that way. i saw maybe i'm, you were nodding and we have people in our youtube chat, live trimming in here. when you talk about ethnic cleansing, obviously a term that makes a lot of people uncomfortable, but a term that is accurate. and i, i want to ask, is it accurate? i mean, many and blood nodes on youtube saying what this means for palestinians is dead out . is that what's actually happening here? it's, it's either get out or, except they're the status quo. they pass lean. that means except being in prison for no reason other than a palestinian, that means excepting that your water resources are going to be stolen and then sold back to you through israel to corporations. that means that settlers all the hats it is full of their candied shoot you,
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as we had seen consistently last year through operation break, the wade on, which is continuing until today. and i, i want to share with our audience a clip from al jazeera senior correspondent, enron con, about how the conversation has shifted on the ground i, since on the new government, i came to be take a look at the lowest order, well palestinian state, any more on the right weight of the israeli parties, you are hearing people say the occupation is now permanent and that's something that was always fun to dismiss when it was said out loud. but now people are taking that seriously. they say it the mayor of been a good leader. he is a national security minister. he has been convicted of racism tools, policies. will he arrows? he's openly racist. he's now in charge of the police force. that was the 1st big concession legal from benjamin netanyahu. we're always trying to look for honestly and constantly. we're up against people who are best lives. and now those lies
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seems with dissipating people of just being completely honest and open with what they would like, which is kind of the palestinians, how the counseling completed. the palestinians out of palestine completely echoing some of what you all have, discuss gelata when you see that video. and i'd like to hear from all of you on this, i mean the national security minister in, in, in particular what, what stood out to you. that's what stood out to me, just some of the policies that that might be down the pipeline. what stood out to me is that the idea of zionism when the way it started by the same and over decades . and what we've witnessed is a very concentrated and systematic operation of expelling and ethnic cleansing, this land of its native inhabitants. it's been happening slowly and fast depending on the periods. but what we're seeing today is that this new government is not concerned about taking it slow. it's not concerned about the public opinion. it's not concerned about what the rest of the world thinks. and it's just like israel
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is ethnically supremacist state based on ethnic supremacy for the jewish colonizers and, and it's not, it's not going to be merciful and the native inhabitants. and it's just normalizing jewish supremacy to the whole world thing. this is the jewish state and it would be okay to just move all those palestinians forcefully and kill and shoot and move them out. people that this new government is trying to convince the world that it's israel's right to do this. based on the core based tenants of zionism, which is like this jewish, the, it has to be established and dominate the domain, this land right and not be ashamed of its purpose, right? and i'm not alone. and i'm not that through premises narrative for lack of a better word. i mean, i want to ask you ya, we, we have this graph just to give a sense to our audience, the growth in the number of settlers since netanyahu 1st took office in 1996 to 999
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. then again in 2009 of course this, these are sort of conservative numbers, but you do see the trend rising and rising. we know now some people say the estimates were 100. i think it's half a 1000000 or even more 600000 settlers. but more importantly, you know, in my law, in areas where, let's just say the reactions seem to have been strongest. i want to share with you, yada. someone asked my the isa, who had this to say about the new government, and we'll come right back to you. take a listen. hello, the headphone was calling for when it is clear that this is an extremist government run by nation. yahoo and bank via who is minister of national security. it showed he will be an extremist governments, and the situation won't become, it seems it is clear with the israeli public on the palestinian public. that will be so many things that the government will do that are not fine by the palestinian site. and this will cause a lot of trouble. why am i able club, my yada?
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you heard him say many things that the government will do. what are some of the most alarming things that you're aware of and are these promises and pledges inevitable? i mean, is there a way off this, this disaster dystopian roller coaster we're on i mean, some of the things that we can expect from this new coalition government is a much sort of type, the rain over the west bank tomorrow bank. the ministerial portfolio also includes the prisons where policy, political business. so we're quite worried about what the consequences of the in the click that you showed with your colleague who was discussing it and then give it as a racist. i mean, that's true of every single israeli politician whether they are right, left or center to believe in a state that is only for one group of people or that one group of people have the right to dominate another group of people as a basis and it's in at its very core at it's very essence. so i think we have to be
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very careful when we're talking about these so called extreme as characters. ok. they are crude, you know, tomorrow. and he talks about shooting dead palestinians or arabs. but yeah, lucky you or betty gung talks quite openly about foaming gods about the stone age. so really, there isn't a huge difference. it's about rhetoric. it's about the language that they use to talk about these races policies. most certainly, you know, and i just want to share some visualization of, you know, we've heard 2022. this has been one of the roughest or deadliest or most violent years. i mean, we have this animation of just some of the headlines that we've seen, right? of palestinians who've been killed in 2023. forgive me just in the beginning of 2023. right. i think in the 1st 2 weeks it was already in the dozens or over a dozen. and again, i don't want to focus too much on the depths for as important as they are. we know that the lives are also so difficult and so i appreciate you kind of breaking
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through some of that framing. do you worry then about the framing that this is the most far right? that, that like, you know, i know, i know, for example, you july, you have had 1st hand experience with some of the settler violence that is expected to continue to arrive. could you share with us what that actually means? and also why you're certain this is getting worse. in the past, the settlers would be wanting to make a stand to be, to become bolder, to be challenging the government and challenge them those really occupation military in the, in the west bank. specifically, they would be wanting to accentuate policy. but now we have those extremists who would go on an attack and commit arson attacks against villagers in the west bank. and the ones who are actually acting in violent acts. they are the ones in government. they are the ones who came from yet so hard from from can get out of by
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in the middle of hebron. bang via and his as, as allies and small to which the ones we see on the hill top the hilltops, the terrorist sectors, the ones attacking policy is not actually in the government. and this is why it's a bit of a concern because the ones we fear the most in our daily lives to the ones are attacking our cars and injuring us directly. or actually the one setting policy in the past. it would have been some leader in tel aviv, or jerusalem, trying to pretend that the settler regime is just acting on its own. while we know that the sector team is empowered by the israeli government and sustained by the july rent today. they are the government, the settlers is the government and they are the ones conducting the policies all over the secretary. and i saw many i'm you were not in agreement. i mean, why is that such an important point? and how do we know, how are we certain that some of those attacks that a lot of us outlining are going to continue to increase so they
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attacked that. so that was a result of previous attacks that happened in a more spread out manner. when it was in less frequency, we saw the arse and attack and duma, that less an entire family was burned to death and 15 and near another. and these are all micro aggressions that preceded what is happening now. and what we're seeing is just an intensification about it. i think in the 1st video that we saw that mentioned there openly, racist. i think that's the only difference it been a bit is no different than mixing up. that one is just more open the rate then it could be, it was refused to israeli military when it was time for him to serve because he was considered too dangerous. now this man has control over the entirety of these
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really armed forces and, and this is it's emblematic of what is the come and it's going to be bloody and it's going to be ugly. and palestinians are going to deal with it. and then our resistance is going to be criminalized. well, i think that's even worse. i'm so glad you bring up that point. so there been rumors, i've heard that there is an actual law trying to caught a fi what is already happening, right? which if a palestinian is resisting occupation, unlike ukrainians, resisting occupation that somehow in the law, legally israel has a right. they've already been killing palestinians who resist, but now it's going to be codified in law. am i right and understanding this many m yada. anyone want to clarify that for our audience? i mean it's always been codified and israeli low because he is ready. supreme court has always upheld these extra digital killings or when the israeli army has had open fire regulations. but this is actually been a common trends. it's something that the israeli regime does just was showed you
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practice. so there have been many ways in which these really bracing has, in a sense, legalized these kinds of killing. but of course, it doesn't matter what the israeli regime dodson comes of its own judicial system. the what is reservation is doing is illegal on the international law and under the international legal regime. so i think we have to be very clear when we're talking about legality and legality. most certainly, and i appreciate how many i'm please, what they're doing is trying to evade accountability. so in the future on are trying to try a soldier or a commander. they complete that they were only acting within the law of their state . and i think that's what's happening here, but if a cation is for the future, not for now, for now, they're going to continue what they've been doing, killing they both an entire state over math. and now what they're looking at, especially as we're pursuing international accountability,
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is how to keep themselves from that. right. and of course we've seen i'm very mindful that we do not have an israeli jewish citizen on this panel on this conversation on in this conversation. that said, there has been a conversation growing in israel, where we've seen, you know, 100000 people protesting mostly against the judicial reforms that have been proposed, but also against netanyahu's court corruption. and i want to ask quite openly, i mean, actually let me frame it this way. we have in fact already asked. so let's bring in a jewish voice. we have roy yellen and the director of public outreach from salem, who was among the protesters there and television. we asked him what the motivation is about how to save israeli democracy if you will take a little. i was among the protesters in television against israel as government attempts to destroy the judicial system. the new government is explicit about its id, ology, of jewish supremacy. but that was also the idea allergy that has guided previous
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israeli governments. new threats are posed by this government to the human rights of other groups. in addition to those of all stadiums. it seemed that the majority of the protesters probably did not share, but telling you that israel is not a democracy, but rather in apartheid regime, yet at least a significant minority among them did the lot. what do you think? anyone who wants to jump in? i, it's a thing that it's been talked about a lot, a lot of the, than perhaps the ones who see the occupation, the ones who see apartheid, the ones to see what's actually happening on the ground. the us palestinians, mainly we understand that no protest in television, no matter if it's 800000 or a 1000000 going out in the street and tell you it doesn't matter if they're just calling for preserving a democracy, which was never a democracy. it was never a democracy for anyone living in this land. when over 5000000 people cannot even
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participate in the votes and people are living under apartheid. and all that. the 2nd matter is they're fighting against the tradition reforms. and those reforms, the people protesting against the nathan, y'all, reforms more actually calling to maintain the status cool to protect their soldiers from being prosecuted by by, by courts they wanting to maintain that score, to protect his soldiers who commit crimes against it by the citizens. that's why thing to maintain the status quo, to protect the soldier, to protect their children who are actually killing palestinians in the occupied territories on a daily basis. i do not believe in any protest that goes on in any part of study. i don't even see it actually because i hear about my life and the life of the policy in the well being for people do not care about someone who wants to maintain apartheid right and demolish it july. i appreciate that. and before i let anyone else jump in, i do want to just bring in some of the voices and are you to try out a lot of people on youtube,
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understandably very concerned for the well being of palestinians. one of them, brad lovely, asking how does israel manage its long term image of being a moral pariah and the global scene? also saying, how do we empower palestinians to create sustainable ecos savvy revenue streams to find their way? and lastly, how is the united nation stepping up to buffer any worst case scenarios arising from this? this dope? yeah, well, when it comes to the united nations, before i let you respond, i'm going to play this clip from prime minister benjamin netanyahu. maybe he can help help us answer this take a little mono, all the hundreds of distorted decisions against israel that were passed by the general assembly of the united nations over years. also, the despicable decision that was passed today will not bind the israeli government . the jewish people are not occupied on their own land, nor occupiers in our eternal capital, jerusalem a no you and resolution can warp that historical still needs or. so of course, mattie and i would love your reaction for our audience who doesn't understand the
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context. this was the reaction to the international court of justice, providing an opinion on israel, the occupation as the despicable. so that's what he called it, but mary, your thoughts to some of those questions that were asked and youtube and before i also get to that, i also want to bring up the protests that were happening. i think it's less about what they were processing and we need to look at how the israeli police and authorities responded to these processors. very telling of how israel isn't a part. i met regina that if it was palestinians, we would have been shot and killed. it would just have been news of oh, there are protesters. so that's important. i think that's the most important thing about what was happening there. in yellow speaking, he's a killer. he sanctions on the mass killing a pile of things. so of course you don't think it's despicable every sociopath
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think that the pickable when they're held ah, on accountable to their fine. but in terms of empowering pilot mean, but we need right now is a disempowering of israel and ideally jeremiah zation of israel to exist. and i think this is the step where we're at right now. no, no settler has the right to create the states by ethnic cleansing a population period that is non negotiable. and i think that's where we should and that includes boycotting is ready called the reading at most certainly. and i want to give you a chance. the od, i know you were going to jump in there before you. do we have this tweet just based on what maybe we're talking about that outlines a blow to normalization. as robert carter cause an old man's parliament voting to expand the boycott of israel in support. of palestine criminalizing ties with television, i want to ask you that in mind the out, obviously a lot of indications of kind of you know, normalizing the status quo. but what, what do you think about that move and also what met him was outlining well,
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i want to just, you know, what you asked about in terms of israel's image. you know, these really regime doesn't have to do much to, to oppose its image. look at the, the world's most powerful countries in the united states, which itself is a brutal settler colony. you have the r abrasions, which norm lived with, with israel, which all despotic seems which will so crush and tunnel. so, you know, is that with no exceptional when it comes to violations of human rights or off refusal ethnic cleansing, or colonialism for that matter. so you know, how can we expect this of a country to sort of state take a stand against the israeli regime when, when they're just as brutal when they, they also commit acts. so i think we always have to, to view it in that context that the israeli regime is sustained by an unjust world by unjust regimes across the world. and one of your common one of the comments in
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the, in the youtube section, you know, asked about ecos jeans from the financing, palestinian. you know, this isn't about money or we don't, it's not that we lack money. this is that we lack the political power behind us and there isn't political will to change or to challenge the israeli regime. and so the most important thing that people can do globally is not give money to alice daniel . i mean, certainly support humanitarian efforts. but if to change the politics in the country where they are to politics, that is more receptive to justice, to global justice and palestinian liberation. and yara, what an incredible point to end on. i was actually going to ask another quick question, but we're running out of time and obviously that is such a critical point. you know, this idea that we didn't even discuss maybe an elephant or one of the elephants in the room is the absence of palestinian leadership, a lack of elections. there are a big disconnect. i would argue a conversation that very relevant to the one we had today. so hopefully you will
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