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other competition, so i think it's something that the spanish id and the government needs to take action with. the 2nd one would be that that football organizations league are the spanish federation. i mean today in scope and rate, it's not legal, it's another a federation that should take actions and not i know it's very difficult to to take actions because sometimes is difficult to identify who is doing this kind of stuff . but it must be a 0 tolerance to, to stop from this happening again in spain. 3rd, actor needs to be the claps will, can start thinking it's related to friend that let the color the radical organization related to ality come a, treat and bar salon and rails. might read a big job f for, to kick the violence of all out of their stadiums. analytical madrid hasn't done that, so old clubs need to take action. ah,
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i'm, let's take you through some of the headlines here and i'll just sierra israel says it's launched as strikes targeting arm groups in garza. he comes hours after 2 rockets were fired from the palestinian territory. they were intercepted by the iron dome air defense system. around con has more from garza, the rockets were fired around midnight at local time. they came from somewhere in the gaza strip and they were fired towards of the city of ash cologne in israel. now the israeli r i and don't defend system actually took those rockets out. ah, no one's claimed responsibility for this attack a so far, but it's likely to be an attack by islamic jihad. it was their fighters that were killed in jeanine. now what we're hearing in our school on itself, people are opening now. they bomb shelters. they're on high alert, their sovereigns already, it's a go off on thursday,
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israeli forces kill 10 palestinians in the occupied. why spank? 9 of them in arrayed on the jenin refugee camp violence has prompted palestinian leaders to cut security ties with israel. demonstrators in haiti of block street in the capital in protest against the killing of police officers by armed gangs. some storm via porters by minister aria laundry was arriving from a foreign trip. he was briefly forced to barricade himself inside the building. playmaker, boeing as pleaded not guilty in the u. s. court. the charges of fraud related to 2 crashes of it's 737 max jets. the firm is accused of hiding design flaws in the air craft which caused the crashes. 5 former police officers in the u. s. state of tennessee have been charged with 2nd degree murder over the fatal beating of a black man. tyrene nichols was stopped on january the 7th for reckless driving.
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canada has announced it'll send for leopard to battle tanks to ukraine. comes a day after the u. s. and germany agreed to provide dozens of advance combat vehicles. as the headlines, news continues after the stream in depth analysis of the days headlines from around the world to try right extremely there is real and need to be tackled as soon as possible. frank assessments, your guy has failed. it's time to back a new joline. that's why you get to get out of that minute over by those dialect and you need informed opinions those and um, really lose your position or dorky. this is appointment inside story on al jazeera . ah hi, i'm for me. okay, thanks for watching the string made in rica. could that be of
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a solution to vaccine in equity across the african continent? we have all seen 1st hand what happens when there is a global pandemic, and vaccines aren't available to everybody who needs them. but what if africa and african countries start, which is their own vaccines? could that be a game changer? we sat i conversation with question over the past 3 years, our team has studied the global access and inequities to coven 19 vaccines. and we see clearly that lack of manufacturing capacity, especially in africa, has been a key driver of global inequities. that means there has to be significant investment from both the public and the private sector. there has to be access to intellectual property and know how we need the human capital. so significant training and capacity building is necessary. we've got a rework the supply chains to ensure that they are adequate for regional manufacturing. and we have to make sure that regulatory support and regulatory
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oversight are appropriate to ensure that we're developing quality assured vaccines around the world. oh, that's kind of miss. well, what i love is that there is a list that possibilities as a strategy at least one strategy. i am going to welcome petra and also to yodi. i know you know dr. yadi, and they're both going to introduce themselves to you in the context of making vaccines in africa. petro, welcome to the stream. please say hello to our viewers around the world. tell them who you are, what you do. me. thank you very much. i'm peer to, to blanche. i'm the managing director at region by technology, by logics, be biased in cape town. and we've are the w h o m order. now hup. making him order now. technology accessible to africa, to produce that own in modern a vaccines are going to be on the shutter right to having thought to yodi it is so lovely to have you. we've been talking to a lot over the past couple of years,
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but this is something quite fresh and new and potentially positive. we might not audience who you are, what you do. well, it's wonderful to be with you. so me and it's great to be on the sisters. my name is dr. idea. lecture lives dr. yadi, i work several hotspots in the show. really the most passionate one is about charity africa, your african vaccine delivery alliance, as well as i'm special envoy to be access to tools accelerator which is a global global platform situated. all right, if to have you ladies, go to have your audience as well. if you're watching right now, you're on youtube, you an important part of our conversation, but your comments or questions right here. be part of today's show, a facts and figures. petra and our daughter yodi. we have to show these for our audience. i see where we are right now. so one percent vaccine use in africa, a made in africa. shocking. 90 percent of that seems use in africa are imported. point one percent of the global supply vaccines produced in africa. 25 percent of
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the global supply vaccines is used in africa. so a big user of vaccines, a very small producer of vaccines. why is there that imbalance? petrow you start? hey, me, many reasons. first year this is a reality which is not new. this has been a history for 10 years, but the one thing that the cupboard pandemic of done is to really surface this reality and create a stream of energy that will change it. so the reasons being lack of capacity, the reasons being as that the global suppliers dominates the landscape. the reason being that these, there was never a strategy that was comprehensive creation of an ecosystem and implemented. now we have the strategy and the strategy. we have started to implement. so this time we're going to get it right. that he won't always strikes me, is the brilliance of scientists and researchers and doctors on the african
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continent. and some of the amazing research that was done during the beginning of our global time. to meet with him right now came from within the continent. so it's not the brain power. it's not the intelligence. is it just money? a journey and money and its power? yeah, yeah. yeah, i would say that we absolutely have the capacity and we often hear you've just heard from petra. petro is doing some incredible work. we often hear that there is no, you know, that we have to import the capacity. the capacity exists within africa. the know the know how this would have the ability is inherently that many of all diasporas, all the ones who work in many of this manufacturing areas around the world. but it is power and it is also responsibility of leadership. but it is governance,
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and there is an opportunity within this crisis. this is a moment for home, as patrick said that. but what the pandemic has done is a shuttle magnifying glass and one of the inequities in the world that we live in. and that is now showing us all as africa, we need to be in charge, not just of our vaccines, but have already health security more broadly. you know, not just vaccine production, but all the medical counter measures. we also don't have testing. we don't have the diagnostics capacity, not just because it, but for a myriad of albany illnesses. we also don't have the therapeutics capacity. we're not able to right now on the african continent. there is no packs of it, which is the tablet, your to treat to treat cove it. and why is that? because people like petro fridges and all friends, and aspen, and also our friends in senate. gov should be able to make these drugs. but the know that the technical transfer and the sharing of that proper international and all of the technology, let me get to technical,
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not that. so people like petro are looking at the world, say, come on, come to us, and you pressure, come on, we're ready. we have to know how we have the capacity. we just need you not to give us permission, but we need you to, to lead in to this moment and recognize that africa health security is also global health security and vice versa. so yeah, do you right, needs to be a can do attitude to we have the audio deep abilities in pockets on the continent, but without building a policy environment without building a vertically integrated sick that we cannot harness and leverage the value of r and d knowledge i think what we've demonstrated to the continent in, in buddhist capacities, over the last 18 months, is that we have this front to place. we have the technical base, we need infrastructure, we need investment, and we need a policy environment that will stimulant, let stimulate, local production and local procurement. without that, we will not have
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a sustainable sector. so this is an ecosystem that needs to be crated, or regulatory quality, regulatory and quality, and a market place that you form that will procure locally and not only global procure enter. this is huge. you are building an entire industry almost from scratch. and i say this is not on my own. yes, yeah, no about now, but even if it's not bias, i mean, even if it's with several countries getting together with the w h o given the support, this is huge. and it, let me start with some of the, i do understand, and that is what all the vaccine needs. of course, we were in the global pandemic, so this coverage. but beyond that, dr. yodi, what else? there's measles, there's, there's rebel. does that mean something that is very close and dear to my heart, and i'm currently visiting,
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visiting sort of the global health sort of gurus and headquarters of the world to geneva. i've just recently been talking to some people about h p v. vaccines and also the testing the diagnostics for, for, for the human problem of virus which is, you know, the, basically the cause of psycho cancer. we have vaccines for instance, can prevent this. we have testing become presented. we in africa need to be able to look beyond it. we need to be able to look at the fact that not every african countries going to be able to produce vaccine. i mean that people talk about producing the shop and the re, we must be realistic that there is to capacity for everybody to produce just so let's not to the future lesson to protecting our girls and all women on the continent. let's look to things like, like the h p v, the vaccine for, for girls and women. let's look to things like, you know, in south africa. now looking up, would you say this sort of sweet childhood immunization vaccines. we must be able
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to have a regional production capacity on the african continent because we need to protect our security. what happens during code? it was that other countries, you know, stopped there, back there, back the exports because they were protecting their own sovereignty. and that is, you know, that is understandable, but the world can now not say to africa, you must not produce your own. but what, what petro say actually correct. we did the policy environment. but when we look about always the environment, we must 1st of all say we need to look at the leadership in our own continent. and when i go home early does not own so accountable. how got so from, i will not need. i'm going to go to the head of the world health organization doctor petros, and this is what he said last year. i'm just looking here. it was almost a year ago to the date. and this is about the potential for what can be the chief in the african content areas. today's,
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i'm delighted to announce the 1st 6 african countries that we received technology from the app to produce their own m r n. a vaccines, egypt, kenya, nigeria, synagogue, south africa, and tunisia. more than 80 percent of the population of africa. yours is yet to receive a single doors. my job, this in equity has been driven by the fact that globally vaccine production is concentrated in a few, mostly high income countries. that are, that the announcement labels. my one was because it was helpful and the other one is like dr. tedra was always like a game show host and i can test since i'm going to be egypt and kenya. and i'm curious and he goes on every canteen easy, but it is a little bit like that, isn't it? how transformative could this be attack that was coming your way. me usually maybe just to circle back on your previous question. we have identified 20 cheaper 22 priority vaccines on this continent. ok,
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those are the vaccines which are not only for routine vaccination but also for outbreaks, but a lot less vaccines for each of the new click to diseases. so these, there is a clear strategy and a demand and a need to be an identified. circling back to dr. teachers announcement, it was amazing. that's 5. companies in 5 countries on the continent will f axis to future relevant, a modern technology through this program. we have already had to nice synagogue to nicea and egypt at s region, receiving the 1st knowledge transfer for m r and technology. we will receive send the goal in the next month. and we are waiting for an id area and kenya bonnie back already being being tried and bob ready ready to receive the 1st technology package . so this program is building future relevent capacity for in our and i back seen production. it diversify the platforms in egypt,
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and it adds platforms to new companies in the area, kenya, seeing the goal. and of course, by that being expanded and being one of the foremost entities. this is fundamentally a game changer. him auto nice technology is, is it has a problem. this for innovation, it has a promise, not only for colbert 19, in fact, beyond that, i took and you can have some malaria. it has a prominent but, but we, we had so many promises on the continent on page go back to much points and also petro point about about policy and all of that. you know, the, a boucher declaration that our leaders made in africa was 2121 years ago now. 20 years ago. 22. i'm so sick. i was wasn't born yodi. no foot neither was item. yeah . we read about it more than 20 years ago. we don't know about this,
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but we read about 20 years ago. i actually have to confess that i was in a bridge or that day. it was a 20. it was may in 2020, that the declaration was, was decided by our leaders that they would commit 50 percent to health budget. where are we today? i think only one country in africa has reached out 50 percent. i don't want to talk to anybody. so i will mention which was the case i'm wrong and this is investment. so what petros talking about, we can't always have, you know, the world is perceiving us is not investing ourselves in our own health security. and for me, that is where with this thought, because the buck stops at home, you know, i have been known to say during the early days because it, that it curve it had it originated in africa. the world would have locked up, locked us away, thrown away the key, there would be no operation will speed though to be no investment in r and d, because we have to be valid. oh, and we have to commit ourselves and all our leadership. and we have to push for 90
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small letters seminar, that's not an app that i hear you, but that message is not necessarily getting to the leaders on the african content. so we can cry as africans about inequity. you've left us behind. this is i, i have to be very careful here, but this is vaccine apart. 8 and you into what's good for you is not good for african. so all of those, all of those things. but the leadership is so critical and there is some responsibility there. surely, absolutely, i mean is that what i'm laying that we have to look in what's 1st? yeah, we have to, we have to, you know, i mean when you point one, figure out what's the next full point towards yourself, and we have to look, it was, you know, what dr. tedra announced there and, you know, i had the privilege. i mean, i just had the privilege of meeting with him for a few hours to talk to you talking about the future, talking about how we, we,
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we ensure that we do ensure that how security notice of africa with latin america of asia. ready many other parts of the world, it starts with leadership. so we have, we have that policy environment, the picture i was talking about and i had it over to her guy, petra. so i want to move this to a bigger picture, even if we started to forget what the impact of cova 19 was as people got with h, i v in 2000 as we forgot to simpler about influenza as we forgot about abolla. if we then also forget about. 7 coven, 19, and the impact. let's move this conversation to social, economic development for the leadership on this continent. what is the most important opportunity and responsibility is to develop this continent vaccine, manufacturing capacity, capturing the value of this massive market in africa for vaccine supply. if we, even if we put the health issues aside, he says, so she economic development imperative. no leader can not invest in that building
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a workforce direct for an investment, intellectual property and innovation infrastructure at school. how support really was a lady the week if, why we, i'm we, we are currently receiving vaccines from other middle income countries. most of the vaccines that will be received in africa today to be created. not it have been made in high income countries, but in asia countries. so there is, and that's why i said at the very top of this is there's an opportunity of this crisis. but what we need to do is also broadened it, right? because we're in colgate, when people talk about vaccines, people think of coded vaccines. and we need to begin to use the language of petro use earlier about the party to party vaccines. you do know that there was that the current strain of the bowler, which, you know, thank goodness of yesterday and i want to congratulate you down to the government and my sister j, the minister that i don't think jamie right now. holler at outbreak over. yeah,
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those boxes, they were in a freezer somewhere, the ones that are being used in a trial that a company considered it was not worth. it was not worth their while. right, to develop them here because i mean, what is going in to times let me bring in them the minister of how for uganda, you just named her. oh, so relevant as we look ahead to what is possible with vaccines, how they're important that they're produced with in african countries. and this is what she had to say october the 122022 things relevant to our conversation. right now. i see it working together. we shall come up with practical solutions to better protect our communities and reduce any chances of cross border spread of this virus. in the spirit of africans solutions for african problems. in the long term. as african governments, we need to bolster investment in research and development,
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innovation and manufacturing of health tools, such as vaccines diagnostics and essential therapeutics to address the widespread spectrum of diseases that threaten us. all right, so i'm literally i have you tube comments and questions for both of you. petra, help me out with these. this is the speed round for you. so we have from her saying to here, this is the best solution for the african continent for the whole issue with faxing and actually the best solution petrow response. i agree that one was easy. all right, bruce bruce, a new chief is reagan said vaccine oversight in african countries. would it be rigorous enough? ok, so i'm going to go to that question. that is, this is what we get hit with all the time people say what is going to be the quality that is the sort of a, it's almost insulting better. you know what i'm doing back on the continent that
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that 1st discovered on the chrome for instance, it was africa that identified the sequence the, the variant in the world and tried to shut this out. but then when do you know mc sequencing the benefits? well, it's ok, but when we're trying to produce medicines, people will say the quality is not good enough. that is not an attitude that we should break to the tape. ringback we and that's what, what, what, what jane jane just said, a minister of health, of uganda, about not just technology transfer or intellectual property. i think we need to move beyond that. we need to look at the integration within our continent itself. we need to ourselves, begin to discover the talents of the research and development capabilities that enable us to create our own therapy, our diagnostics, and we need to work with the rest of the world. so that africa actually said african solutions for african problems,
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no quality. i don't think is an issue. we have the know how on the continent or patrick, i love this question. it comes from garbage go. he's watching on you chief right now. i could this have happened. i looking at that scene production from the african continent. have we not experienced a pandemic? i think it would have taken a long time because we had previously it predicts that was devastating for the continent, but need not for the global ruled. and we could not live, reach the energy, the support that we've done with code that 19. i believe that this is the panoramic has been a landmark change for this continent. and we will keep the momentum and we will implement the strategies that was born out of code, 19 anxiety and fear, an inequality. so michael, michael has such a trouble maker on you chief share the patents because people's lives on the line
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share that it's easy for you to type that in the comment section. don't hear any. you have 30 seconds to respond to that share the patents, the, the whole conversation around sharing patients has been going on for several, several years and we will be bashing each other again, i've just said, i've also just had the privilege of meeting with the director general of dr. joe, well, to discuss this very issue in the last in the last 24 hours and to discuss how is it that we can move forward together is a global community, not at each other, but together with arm in all around sharing the, the intellectual data. what do you think as you say, because she's very much business orientated, she's like, we're not going to give away this. we had her on the stream and she was really interesting on how she was defending the ability for companies to make money. they need to make money. i'm not going to give away. i would say that she, i mean, i think there's been that there's been a lot of discussion around it. i wouldn't say that she's defending the company's
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ability to make money. but the fact is that we have governments and as well, we have the u. s. government, we have various other companies you operate protective of that, those industries. and that is why i said, if you remember from the earlier question, that it is not just about sharing the tax, but it is about the innovation within our own continent. because ro was not built in a day. so we can't always sit back, wait for somebody to share, that we have to begin down the research and development into creating the diagnostics. my know, you know, those various companies broken. senate. gov and, and can you have that are about to create, begin to develop diagnostics capacity that is a local. so we need to look at that was we also work hand in hand to the pharmaceutical industry of who petro is. once you know the farmer african farmer, and we have to look at how we move to get a the last bill here has to do in the they are in the i'm petra, if you take us 25 years into the future. one is the best case scenario for vaccines
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being made in africa. will africa be exporting vaccines? is that possible? yes, africa will multiple left, multiple companies with multiple multiple platforms. an athlete africa will contribute to vaccine innovation globally. we have the ability, once we've pulled the sector to innovate, we will good generate our in own intellectual property. and i hope that we will be open to share it in benefits, sharing agreements. it is not to be monopolized. it is to be shared in license agreements that has benefit for everybody and not to be hold close to give him a not monopoly. i think these are different worlds. we need the balance to be restored and not make way with i be or give it a way. i think we need to use intellectual property as an enabler. why not petro dottie 80 view, as anew chief?
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thank you so much. is very vibrant of vigorous conversation and going to be falling with great interest. how vaccine production is happening in africa when it is happening in africa. and you can be sure that we were port on that right here on the stream. like watching us the next time, take everybody ah ah.
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