emphasized importance of police officers, president turner, to have a duty to intervene when they see crime be a committee, even if those crabs are being committed by their fellow officers. and so that would be the appropriate legacy that we give tyree nicholson if we really fate. we won't, jestice for justice is not jeff jeff does for one family is justice for all of us. that's what ro vaughn is praying for. she was reform. we want this duty to in of being to be comp tyree's law, just like they have carrier horns low in the state of new york. and for those of you who don't note, as soon as me an attorney mack error more talk this morning, carrier who was a black police officer. she witness one of her fellow

officers, brutalizing a black citizen. and she to intervene as stop the me get assault to her cell when she try to stop him. but because she intervened, she was retaliated, gets, as she was terminated and had the fight almost a deck, a long battle to get justice because they had no duty to intervene for police officers before her courageous act. and the issue is we have to make it official, we have to make it documented, we got to put it on the books. we have to have notice that police officers, you have a duty to in a vain. when you see a crime being committed,

you expect the people to say something well want i show us how to do it. you all go 1st when you see a crime being committed and they have people in our community will feel a lot more awe safe when they go in a vein and say we saw a crime when you want us to tell what we saw, where you tell what you saw to a man and so this is what miss ro vaughn and rodney in, jamal as he wanna em, michael, his siblings does what they want. they want reform with these charges. now, because we have the blueprint, america, we won't take set different justice for white policemen compared to african american bonds. the woods, they are of the attorney for the the family of tyree nichols. he of course, was stopped my police unit in memphis, tennessee, after

a violent arrest. he was hospitalized in guide 3 days like hold bring you more on this story as we get it this year with us here now to sierra in excessive use of force against black citizens before. ah, algae 0 with know the u. s. secretary of state antony blinking heads to the middle east days after israeli forces kill yet more palestinians. what is washington's role in the worsening conflict? and what wider challenges does the by the ministration face in the middle east? this is inside story. ah

hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammered. m g m u s. secretary of state antony blinking is visiting israel and the west bank on a trip to the middle east beginning in egypt. it will be his 1st to the region since i knew far right government came to power in israel and comes just days after is really forces killed more palestinians in jennine. we'll be looking at what to expect from the visit in more detail with our guests in a few moments. but 1st al jazeera is, i had my head explains how that read unfolded. palestinians in janine pay their respects to 9 people killed in an israeli military. wait on the occupied west bank on thursday. they are bird next to dozens of other palestinians who died over the past year in his really incursions into the janine refugee camp. this is the 1st time israeli forces have stormed the narrow alley ways of the janine refugee camp

in the past several months. according to locals. their past trades were limited to the outskirts people here woke up to a pitched battle between his way the army forces and palestinian fighters in this road. in the densely populated camp the south african berg. i was leaving for work at 7 in the morning. i looked outside, soldiers were coming out of 4 cars. they took over this house here and another rooftop, and started shooting at the fighter's house for half an hour after which they shot anti tank weapons at the place. that's when we believe the fighters were killed or ms. lu, families here are frustrated and exhausted because these israeli military raids have become regular part of their daily routine. and they say they're stay up late every night fearing the next military rate. and they started asking this question, when will it be my turn for to my job lives next to a house that was rated?

she says for months, she and her family have been living in fear of being killed, last injured or paralyzed i. it was a battlefield. i couldn't move in my house because it overlooks the shooting. i stayed in the inner rooms. i couldn't even go to the toilet if i needed to. i'm terrified. one of the victims of this new rate was a 61 year old woman locals, hearsay. she was shot dead in the neck by israeli forces on the rooftop of her home . the rubble of this house and its chart walls, bearing witness to what's become an eel daily nightmare for palestinians engineer, i had met her al jazeera, jenin refugee camp. the attack brings the number of palestinians killed by israeli forces in the 1st few weeks of this year to at least 30 or diplomatic editor james basin occupied east. jerusalem explains what might be expected from lincoln's visit

at a time of increasing tension. i'm standing at damascus gates, injury slim. now this is one of the main entry points of the old city is where palestinians from east jerusalem had on their way till the alex so mosque to prayer on fridays and every other day of the week. and you can see people now if i get out of the way, leaving the friday press, it is normal. it is. com. it is quiet here. but inside there was a pre process. there was pres, set for the masses of janine and briefly dozens of palestinians raised the palestinians flag and they chanted from i'll access janine parlour, sign is free. now it's worth telling you in the past when we've seen the palestinian flag razor moments like this is really i'm really pleased to be very quick to intervene. heavy handedly remove the flag, remove the protest as they didn't do. so. i think that's because it's a sensitive time right now, diplomatically israel. and that's because there is a visit coming up on sunday by the us secretary of state and pretty blinking. he'll

be going to egypt. he'll be coming here. he'll be meeting the israeli government, the new hard line israeli government, his birth visit here since benjamin netanyahu, new hotline government to our goal is going to meet the members of the public forissi. this is an important visit, i think, because as i say, the 1st visit since the new government is born. but it's also worth noting among the international community. there's considerable disquiet now about the situation many around the security council table. and i can tell you the diplomats in new york have told me that they'd like to see the international community doing much more, getting more involved proactively involved, trying to restock, actively negotiations. they'd also like to see some more condemnation of israel's been doing no one standing in the way of anything like that happening. what funding in the way is the bite and administration it is decided not to get actively

involved in any sort of negotiations. that's been a decision from the top by president biden, and it doesn't look like it's a decision is going to change. but clearly, the 2nd state is going to come here and see things for himself. but i think it's worth bearing in mind too, that the by the administration is so committed to what's going on in ukraine that perhaps it sees what's going on here. what's going on in garza, janine, even though they're incredibly serious, it is as a distraction from its main foreign policy focus is a james gray's inside story in east jerusalem. ah. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests from chicago to her eval sylium is the education and policy associate of the palace and activism program at the american friends service committee from tel aviv gideon levy, he writes opinion pieces on a weekly column for the hearts newspaper and from london, julie norman is associate professor and politics and international relations at

university college london. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story. gideon, let me start with you today. mister blankets visit had been planned for a while now. um, but it has gained greater urgency sensor, this latest deadly raid by israeli forces in the occupied west bank. what do we expect from this visit? unfortunately with very, very little because this visit will at its best try to calm down, try to maintain that they started school, but not much more than this. the americans have now many other issues the but a student question unfortunately is quite in the law in the bottom of the list of interests. and it will be really about charlie trying to calm down the extremist in these early government. tried to cut down the violence and that no church will be

very efficient because now everyone is very careful. and the sunday, monday when he arrives here, 23 days later, bloodshed will be back. because the core problems on so that he has no intentions to even start so ready problem as you had from your perspective, let me ask you a similar question because the u. s. has been expressing alarm about escalating violence and wanting to put forth some type of measure to de escalate the file is. is there anything the secretary of se blinking can do or offer to, to help in this regard? i think the u. s. must hold accountable and the u. s. hasn't done so. and that's why israel has been doing all the things it has been doing violence in those banks and settlement of berlington in land land

seizure, stealing of this thing and property property. and you know, attacking gas every few months. so i think, you know, and this is a demand that many of those who support the stadium rights in the u. s. including us citizens and american organizations that. ready want to see really change in us policy have been repeating for decades, hold those are accountable military it and use, you know, the leverage that the u. s. has the really government and the still to put pressure on that stage to seize its violence and oppression of the palestinian people. julie, the usa department has said that the secretary blinking will discuss the importance of a 2 state solution, which is really in palestinian officials during his visit. is it at all realistic at this point to think that he can actually move the needle on this front?

well, i think as gideon started us out saying we really have to be realistic about expectations that israel palestine negotiations. and he kind of piece talks is really not a priority for the administration at this time, especially with the war and ukraine and other and other things going on with that said, you know, israel palestine is still important for the u. s. i think the bite administration sees this trip as important, given the ultra nationalist and the hard liners in the new israeli government to say very clearly the u. s. is still firmly on a 2 state solution and also a firm that with palestinians. that doesn't mean it's going to move any closer to that, but it's really just messaging to a firm that position. and i would also argue this is also on the backdrop of joint is rarely and usaa military exercise this week to kinda send a message to our ron. so i would, i would say the israel palestine piece is part of this, but also it is rarely and us coordination on security efforts to counter iran,

i believe is also part of this visit gideon. you heard the julie there talk about the fact that in, in the background of all this is going to be the specter of, of iran. let me ask you from your perspective, how much is iran going to factor into the discussions that secretary blanking is going to be having iran is the best excuse. local deal was it was the police didn't wishing this right? manipulated the word that they were right to the states to make you round the main issue and to really smash that but issue which is so much more crucial and so much older. yes, iran will be on the table and a secret urban guy guess will do everything possible to calm down is that only on also on this to prevent any kind of adventures, which few israelis in the you government heavy mind. but by the end of the day,

this is only a cover up because by the end of the day, the by the stand, the issue is the core issue is the main problem. and both americans and he's really breaking away from me, was the excuse that we have the right now own our head and say, and unfortunately on this issue on the but it issue, we have so little to expect. blinker will say all the right words is right is already by now a very experienced was ignoring condemnations because condemnation article, dimensions the word the night that states the you are not ready yet to move from words to actions. and as long as the word does, the word word doesn't move from words to actions. israel can continue with the patient, was able to tell it was that bonus as much as it once she had when he's in the west

bank. secretary blinking is going to be meeting with the palestinian authority president with our boss and other senior officials to discuss things such as the israeli palestinian relations as well as you know, the u. s. continuing to say, how important it is to try to find a 2 state solution is i want to ask you 1st, do you think of these talks will be in any way productive. and, and secondly, that the housing authority has said now that it has halted security cooperation with israel. what impact is that going to have in terms of these meetings? i don't think that they will leave anywhere and even if somehow. ready secretary blaine can manages to pressure than yahoo government to talk with officials to reach some sort of the escalation of the situation. i don't think that you will be addressing the fundamental

challenges and problems that are the route of what's happening today. and by that, i mean, it, governments, the new governments plans for further subtler expansion in the bank. we heard about the plan to build 18000 housing units under what the new government calls the 1000000 settlers. and of course, you know, this is a government that commits itself to complete denial of this thing and rights of the philistine rights for some determination. so i think without addressing these, these fundamental issues here are the question off the stand in existence, the very existence of a people on their land is threatened. now i so that addressing these

issues, i don't think there will be any progress and whatever, whatever things lincoln achieves will be nothing but a band that will probably temporarily cons. the situation, assuming he will be successful at that now regarding the palestinian authority and holding on the so called halting of security coordination. this has been multiple times july. let me ask you usa department is saying that sexual blinking is going to be meeting with president a c c of egypt in order to advance the u. s. e to strategic partnership and promote peace and security in the region. how is that achieved? yeah, well i was free. that's a, that's a big question. again, one that i don't think we're going to see real concrete steps made on, i mean, usually when boynton or any high us official comes to the region, they do make appoint to usually meet with cairo as well. just to ensure again that there is partnerships and relationships are kept warm,

that things are moving forward kind of on, on their shared interests. but in terms of actually stabilization, the region you heard from state saying some of the items they'll focus on are on your elections coming up in the be trying to support a new civilian government in sudan. so looking at some other states in the north africa region and how egypt and the u. s. might be able to support on those all this, of course, with the backdrop of its own human rights record, which many in the us state department are very critical and uncomfortable with, but obviously continue that all i ship for, for the sake of pragmatic reasons with israel palestine and with other interest in the region as well. so i would say those conversations of egypt are always, are always kind of shadowed by, by that reality, in the background. gideon, from your vantage point, or what do you think can be expected from mr. lincoln's travels to egypt. egypt faces a catastrophe, an economy catastrophe, and the question is,

the united states is ready for more than he does when he started getting such budgets? it's really a question is, is the one who needs now the american taxpayer money or is it egypt where people are really starving? i mean, what is happening now in egypt in recent years is really a human to turn catastrophe. i hope and we'll do something about it, but i can promise it obviously. and obviously there will discuss also iran. this is always the sure which is about anything else. but mohammed, if you just allow me, i would like just to refer in one sentence to the discussion before because you mentioned again and again the 2 state solution. and i would like to suggest that whoever suggest now the 2 state solution doesn't mean to solve anything with because the 2 state solution, they all know it is then long time ago and continue to talk about the 2 special

solution we 700000 jewish settlers in there who, by their tories is not much more than a very bad joke. and in a mean to continue the patient, we have to understand the 2 state. so i and i don't know if it was never if it was ever born. but for now, it's really dead and we should change all the schools you had. how much has us policy changed in the region since the administration of former president trump that restoration of former president trump has own accelerated a lot of the policies that are in favor. so for, from the standpoint of, you know, the custodian question, the question is, well, today feels empowered by

a regional alliances. it was able to forge during the era alliances for the new israeli government and the government before made it easier for, for these governments to proceed with plans to dismantle the new cause. to build more settlement to continue denying any and their freedom as to the termination because they feel empowered by these agreements. and by that, i mean, the course of course, you know, the administration has sort of defined as stance that we're, we're moving the embassy. and of course, with, you know, making sure that there are facts on the ground that, that cannot be reversed. and of course, by, you know,

trying to undermine the steering issue, the cause a political issue to another political one. and we're still dealing with this legacy. julie, we know that there is a tension between the bite administration and the government of, from mr. benjamin netanyahu. where is the relationship currently and in some sense is the israeli government sort of waiting it out right now in the hopes that after the next election cycle, there will be another right wing administration in the u. s. well, i think from the bite administration's point of view, they are wary of this new netanyahu government, but their stance so far has been the usaa relationship is with the state of israel, not with any one politician or government. and that's the way that they've, i'd say rationalize or justified kind of the continuing relationship publicly, at least. and this is in contrast,

they to trump who is very cozy personally with netanyahu so that they've tried to frame it that way. from now the government point of view, it's interesting to see, i mean it's certainly there are some on the right it would be even closer to them and would embrace them even stronger. but they've, as you had mentioned they've, they've gotten a pretty strong pass so far from the buyer administration as well. by then hasn't moved to change anything about the embassy. he hasn't really substantially changed anything from trumps policy towards the region. the style. yes, but really not the substance. so in some ways netanyahu can continue to coast with biden or with another administration. so i think he's been a fairly good position regardless of who is in the white house in 2 years. and julie, if i could just follow up with you, because earlier in the program, we heard from our diplomatic editor james base who was talking about the fact that many actors in the international community are, are hoping that there will be something that will advance negotiations when it comes to the israeli, palestinian peace process going forward,

and they are really sort of watching this trip closely to see if there will be anything put forth that could, that could improve the situation in that regard. do you think there's any way that we could see secretary blinking in any way change the by the administration policy even in a very subtle way towards israel? well again, i don't think they are looking right now to push for any kind of big piece deal or any kind of real change. i think the reality on the ground with both is really government as well as the k right now. does not make that bible much less the bite administration to own priorities or capabilities right now. i think we will see nudging on some of the areas we've talked about security coordination and whatnot. many in the us are hoping that blinking will push even somewhat on settlements. and these kinds of issues that have obviously been long standing, where the administration has been relatively quiet,

even rhetorically on not been terms of really moving the needle. i see that it's somewhat limited. often the u. s. at this point leaned into more economic relationships. places where aid can go, things like that, but in terms of we are political movements. i think it's probably be something more on the ground in the region that, that ships that a change with the p a or a change with something internally rather than something that blinking or the u. s . can, can really bring remco is at this time, or just one of the thing we have less than a minute. how closely do you think the international community is going to be watching this visit? or there's always attention on israel palestine as you hide and getting has always said, you know, this is such a core issue. it's such a core conflict that affects so many people. so there will be eyes on it. but i think everyone has also realistic about the expectations to there's a lot of moving parts right now in international relations that i think this visit it. there's one piece in a lot of other things that are going that are going on with,

with iran and ukraine. so whenever blinking is anywhere drive the tension, but i think most people are, are keeping their expectations well on the last. all right, well, we have running time, so we're going to have to leave our conversation there. thanks so much. all of our guess. you had that was really getting in levy, and julie norman, thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also during the conversation on twitter, our handle is at a j inside story for me. mm hm. mm hm. jerome and the whole team here, bye for now. a ah

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