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hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much m g m u. s. secretary of state antony blinking is visiting israel and the west bank on a trip to the middle east beginning in egypt. it will be his 1st to the region since a new far right government came to power in israel and comes just days after israeli forces killed more palestinians in janine. we'll be looking at what to expect from the visit in more detail with our guests in a few moments. but 1st i'll just here as i had my head explains how that read unfolded. palestinians and janine pay their respects to 9 people killed in an israeli military wait on the occupied west bank on thursday. the bird next to dozens of other palestinians who died over the past year in his really incursions into the janine refugee camp. this is the 1st time as rainy forces have stormed the

narrow alley ways of the janine refugee camp in the past several months. according to locals, their past trades were limited to the outskirts people. he awoke up to a pitched battle between his way the army forces and palestinian fighters in this wrote, in the densely populated camp. the south of all that i think that i was leaving for work at 7 in the morning. i looked outside. soldiers were coming out of 4 cars. they took over this house here, and another rooftop, and started shooting at the fighter's house for half an hour after which they shot anti tank weapons at the place. that's when we believe the fighters were killed or ms. lu, families here are frustrated and exhausted because these israeli military raids have become regular part of their daily routine. and they say they're stay up late every night fearing the next military rate. and they started asking this question.

when will it be my turn for to my job lives next to a house that was rated. she says for months she and her family have been living in fear of being killed last injured or paralyzed. i. it was a battlefield. i couldn't move in my house because it overlooks the shooting. i stayed in the inner room so i couldn't even go to the toilet if i needed to. i'm terrified. one of the victims of this new rate was a 61 year old woman. locals. hearsay. she was shot dead in the neck by israeli forces on the rooftop of her home. the rubble of this house and its chart walls bearing witness to what's become an u daily nightmare for palestinians. angeline, i had met her al jazeera, jenin refugee camp. the attack brings the number of palestinians killed by israeli forces. in the 1st few weeks of this year, 2 at least 30 a diplomatic editor james bays and occupied east jerusalem explains what might be

expected from lincoln's visit at a time of increasing tension. i'm standing at the mask escaped injury slow. now this is one of the main entry points. and the old city is where palestinians from east jerusalem head on their way till the alex so mosque to prayer on fridays and every other day of the week. and you can see people now if i get out of the way, leaving the friday press, it is normal. it is. com. it is quiet here. but inside there was a pre process that was pres, set for the masses of janine and briefly dozens of palestinians raised the palestinians flag and they chanted from i'll access janine parlour, sign is free. now it's worth telling you in the past when we've seen the palestinian flag razor moments like this, israeli, i'm really pleased to be very quick to intervene. heavy handedly remove the flag, remove the protest as they didn't do so. i think that's because it's a sensitive time right now, diplomatically israel. and that's because there is

a visit coming up on sunday by the us secretary of state and pretty blinking. he'll be going to egypt. he'll be coming here. he'll be meeting the israeli government, the new hard line israeli government, his birth visit here. said benjamin netanyahu new hard line government to our goal is going to meet the members of the public forissi important visits, i think because as i say, the 1st visit since the new government is born. but it's also worth noting the money international community. there's considerable disquiet now about the situation many around the security council table, and i can tell you the diplomats in new york have told me that they'd like to see the international community doing much more, getting more involved proactively involved, trying to restock, actively negotiations. it also like to see some more condemnation of what israel's been doing now, what's standing in the way of anything like that happening? well, what sending in the way is the biden administration. it is decided not to get actively

involved in any sort of peace negotiations. that's been a decision from the top by president biden, and it doesn't look like it's a decision is going to change. but clearly, the 2nd state is going to come here and see things for himself. but i think it's worth bearing in mind too, that the by the administration is so committed to what's going on in ukraine that perhaps it sees what's going on here. and what's going on in garza, janine, even though they're incredibly serious, it is as a distraction from its main foreign policy. focus is a james base inside story in east jerusalem. ah. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests from chicago jihad abo sylium is the education and policy associate of the palace and activism program at the american friends service committee. from tel aviv gideon levy, he writes opinion pieces on a weekly column for the hearts newspaper and from london. julie norman is associate

professor and politics and international relations at university college london. a warm welcome to you, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story gideon, let me start with you today. mr. blankets visit had been planned for a while now. um. but it has gained greater urgency since sir, this latest deadly raid by israeli forces in the occupied west bank. what do we expect from this visit? unfortunately, with very, very little because this visit will at its best try to calm down. so i to maintain that they started school, but look much more than this. the americans have now many other issues the but a student question unfortunately is quite in the law in the bottom of the lease of interest. and it will be really about charlie trying to calm down the extremist in

these early government. tried to calm down the violence and that no church will be very efficient because now everybody is very careful. and the sunday monday when he arrives here, 23 days later, bloodshed will be back because the core problems on so that he has no intentions to even start. and so reading program as you had from your perspective, let me ask you a similar question because the u. s. has been expressing alarm about escalating violence and wanting to put forth some type of measure to deescalate the violence. is there anything the secretary of se blinking can do or offer to, to help in this regard? i think the u. s. must hold israel accountable and the u. s. hasn't done so. and that's why israel has been doing all the things it has been doing for violence in those banks and settlement of berlington in land land

seizure, stealing of this thing and property property and you know, attacking gas every few months. so i think, you know, and this is a demand that many of those who support the stadium rights in the u. s. including us citizens and american organizations that want to see really change in u. s. policy have been repeating for decades, accountable military and use, you know, the leverage that the u. s. has the really government and the state of israel to put pressure on that state to seize its violence and oppression of the palestinian people. julie, the usa department has said that the secretary blinking will discuss the importance of a 2 state solution, which is really and palestinian officials during his visit. is it at all realistic

at this point to think that he can actually move the needle on this front? well, i think as gideon started us out saying we really have to be realistic about expectations and israel palestine negotiations. and he kind of piece talks is really not a priority for the administration at this time, especially with the war and ukraine and other i and other things going on with that said, you know, israel palestine is still important for the u. s. i think the bite administration sees this trip as important given the ultra nationalists and the hard liners in the new israeli government to say very clearly the u. s. is still firmly on a 2 state solution and also a firm that with palestinians. that doesn't mean it's going to move any closer to that, but it's really just messaging to a firm that position. and i would also add you. this is also on the backdrop of joint is rarely and usaa military exercise this week to kinda send the message to iran. so i would, i would say the israel palestine piece is part of this,

but also israeli and u. s. coordination on security efforts to counter iran, i believe it's also part of this visit gideon. you heard the julie there talk about the fact that in the background of all this is going to be the specter of, of iran. let me ask you from your perspective, how much is iran going to factor into the discussions that secretary blinking is going to be having you see iran is the best excuse local deal was it was the but it didn't wishing this renovated the world that they were right in states to make you round the main issue and to really smash that but as issue which is so much more crucial and so much older. yes, iran will be on the table and a secretary being i guess, will do everything possible to calm down is that only on also on this to prevent any kind of adventures,

which few israelis in the you government every to mind. but by the end of the day, this is only a cover up because by the end of the day, the by the stand, the issue is the core issue is the main problem. and both americans and he's re breaking away from me, was the excuse that we have the right now own our head and say, and unfortunately on this issue on the but it's the issue we have so little to expect. blinking will say all the right words is right is already by now, a very experienced was ignoring condemnations. because condemnation is the only full dimensions the words the night that states the you are not ready yet to move from words to actions. and as long as the word does, the word word doesn't move from words to actions is well, can continue with the patient was

a book that it was the bone and as much as it was she had when he's in the west bank secretary blinking is going to be meeting with the palestinian authority president with our boss and other senior officials to discuss things such as the israeli palestinian relations as well as you know, the u. s. continuing to say, how important it is to try to find a 2 state solution is i want to ask you 1st, do you think of these talks will be in any way productive. and, and secondly, the housing authority has said now that it has halted security cooperation with israel. what impact is that going to have in terms of these meetings? i don't think that they will leave anywhere. and even if somehow. ready secretary blank can manages to pressure than yahoo government and through talks with officials to reach some sort of the escalation of the situation. i don't

think that you will be addressing a fundamental challenges and problems that are the route of what's happening today. and by that, i mean a government's new government plans for further subtler expansion in the west bank. we heard about the plan to build 18000 housing units under what the new government calls the 1000000 settlers. and of course, you know, this is a government that commits itself to complete denial of the listing and rights of the bill of rights for some determination. so i think without addressing these, these fundamental issues here are the question of the stand in existence, the very existence of a people on their land is threatened. now i so the addressing these

issues, i don't think there will be any progress and whatever, whatever things security blanket achieves will be nothing but a band that will probably temporarily cons the situation assuming he will be successful at that now regarding the palestinian authority and holding on the so called halting of security coordination, this has been repeated multiple times. julie, let me ask you, the usa department is saying that sexual blinking is going to be meeting with president a c, c of egypt in order to advance the u. s. e to strategic partnership and promote peace and security in the region. how is that achieved? yeah, well, i was free. that's a big question. again, one that i don't think we're going to see real concrete steps made on, i mean, usually when boynton or any high us official comes to the region, they do make a point to usually meet with cairo as well. just to ensure again that there is

partnerships and relationships are kept warm, that things are moving forward kind of on, on their shared interests. but in terms of actually stabilization, the region you heard from state saying some of the items they'll focus on. are you elections coming up in the be trying to support the new civilian government in sudan? so looking at some other states in the north africa region, how egypt and the u. s. might be able to support on those all this, of course, with the backdrop of its own human rights record, which many in the us state department are very critical and uncomfortable with, but obviously continue that all i ship for, for the sake of pragmatic reasons with israel palestine and with other interest in the region as well. so i would say those conversations of the egypt are always, are always kind of shadowed by that reality in the background. getting from your vantage point or what do you think can be expected from mr. blink and travels to egypt. egypt faces a catastrophe,

an economy catastrophe. and the question is, the united states is ready for more than he does when he started getting such budgets? it's really a question is, is the one who needs now? american taxpayer money? or is it egypt where people are really starving? i mean, what is happening now in egypt in recent years is really a human turn. catastrophe. i hope and we'll do something about it, but i can promise it, obviously. and obviously there will discuss also, ron, this is always the sure which is about anything else. but mohammed, if you just allow me, i would like just to refer in one sentence to the discussion before because you mentioned again and again the 2 state solution. and i would like to suggest that whoever suggest now the 2 state solution doesn't mean to solve anything with

because the 2 state solution, they all know it is dead long time ago and continue to talk about the 2 sexual solution with 700000 jewish settlers. in there who, by their tories is not much more than a very bad joke. and in a mean to continue the patient, we have to understand the 2 states. so i don't know if it was never if it was ever born. but for now, it's really dead and we should change all the schools to had. how much has us policy changed in the region since the administration of former president trump that restoration of former president trump has own accelerated a lot of the policies that are in favor. so for, from the standpoint of, you know, the custodian question,

the question is, well, today feels empowered by a regional alliances. it was able to forge during the era alliances for the new israeli government and the government before made it easier for, for the government to proceed with plans to dismantle the new cause. to build more settlement to continue deny indians their freedom as to the termination. because they feel empowered by these agreements, and by that i mean, the abraham courts, of course, you know, the administration has sort of defined as stance. it, we're moving the embassy and of course, with, you know, making sure that there are facts on the ground that,

that cannot be reversed. and of course, by, you know, trying to undermine a steering issue, the cause, i think an issue to another political one. and we're still dealing with this legacy . julie, we know that there is a tension between the bite administration and the government of prime minister benjamin netanyahu. where is the relationship currently and in some sense is, is really government sort of waiting it out right now in the hopes that after the next election cycle, there will be another right wing administration in the u. s. well, i think from the bite administration's point of view, they are wary of this new netanyahu government, but their stance so far has been the usaa relationship is with the state of israel, not with any one politician or government. and that's the way that they've, i would say rationalize or justified kind of continuing relationship publicly,

at least. and this is in contrast, a to trump who is very cozy personally with not in yahoo. they've tried to frame it that way from now government's point of view. it's interesting to see. i mean it's certainly there are some on the right. it would be even closer to them and would embrace them even stronger. but they've, as you had mentioned they've, they've gotten a pretty strong pass so far from the buyer administration as well by the husband move to change anything about the embassy. he hasn't really substantially changed anything from trump policy towards the region. the style. yes, but really not the substance. so in some ways netanyahu can continue to coast with bite in or with another administration. so i think he's been a fairly good position regardless of who is in the white house in 2 years. and julie, if i could just follow up with you, because earlier in the program, we heard from our diplomatic editor james base who was talking about the fact that many actors in the international community are, are hoping that there will be something that will advance negotiations when it

comes to the israeli, palestinian peace process going forward, and they are really sort of watching this trip closely to see if there will be anything put forth that could, that could improve the situation in that regard. do you think there's any way that we could see secretary blinking in any way change the by the administration policy even in a very subtle way towards israel? well again, i don't think they are looking right now to push for any kind of big piece deal or any kind of real change. i think the reality on the ground with both the israeli government as well as the k right now, does not make that bible much less the bite administration to own priorities or capabilities right now. i think we will see nudging on some of the areas we've talked about security coordination and whatnot. many in the us are hoping that blinking will push even somewhat on settlements. and these kinds of issues that have obviously been long standing,

where the administration has been relatively quiet, even rhetorically on not been terms of really moving the needle. i see that it's somewhat limited. often the u. s. at this point leaned into more economic relationships. places where aid can go, things like that. but in terms of real political movements, i think it's probably me something more on the ground in the region that, that ships that a change with the p a or a change with something internally rather than something that blanket or the u. s. can, can really bring remco is at this time, or just one of the thing we have less than a minute. how closely do you think the international community is going to be watching this visit? you know, there's always tension on israel palestine as the hide and getting has always said, you know, this is such a core issue. it's such a core conflict that affects so many people. so there will be eyes on it. but i think everyone has also realistic about the expectations to there's a lot of moving parts right now in international relations that i think this visit

it. there's one piece in a lot of other things that are going that are going on with, with iran and ukraine. so whenever blinking is anywhere it draw attention, but i think most people are, are keeping their expectations well on the last. all right, well, we have run into time, so we're going to have to leave our conversation. no, thanks so much. all of our guess. you had that was really gideon levy and julie norman, thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. you can also, during the conversation on twitter, our handle is at a j inside story from him. how much am job and the whole team here, bye for now? ah ah

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