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a suicide attack in pakistan has risen to 93 rescue teams have worked through the night to find bodies from a mosque and their pet shower police headquarters, mass funerals, have been held. come on, hides are, has more from passionate the intelligence agency had issued a warning on the 21st of january saying that a number of suicide bombers from them on monday agency that were the fall mom, driver leg focused on along the board has come into play shower and were like, need to get out and there by, despite that intelligence warning, there was a sense of complacency, the suicide bomber. we're able to get into this come found that are multiple barricades all along the way and road able to designated their white, which also lead many to believe that that may have been an inside job. us extra estate anthony blinking has not the has really defense minister. you are gala and western lucel. m lincoln has urge israel and palestine to de escalate tensions off
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. it's also prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the top us diplomat. we'll have to, to meet the palestinian authority president. the us is hoping to buy up to 100000 artillery shells from south korea, so if can give them to ukraine. the us defense secretary lloyd austin, isn't sol for talks. some estimates suggest that ukraine's army is using the shells a twice the rate that the u. s. and you can produce them. south korea has a policy of not selling weapons to countries that are war. 3, emergency medical responders have been fired in the u. s. city of memphis, following the death of an unarmed black man at the hands of police. they've been accused of failing to conduct a proper medical assessment and adequate patient care to tie re nichols 5 officers . i've already been dismissed for beating him during a traffic stop. the 29 year old died 3 days later, off his injuries. the international monetary fund has slightly risen its global
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economic outlook. the 2.9 percent. that's due to unexpected spending in the u. s. on europe, as well as the reopening of china's economy. those are the headlines coming up next on al jazeera. it's the stream by, by hope francis is set to visit the democratic republic of congo and south suit on in a trip that is meant to heal the wounds that is still bleeding. fill the pontiff to visit started chapter at peace and reconciliation ending the internal conflicts of these 2 nations. oh, in africa. on al jazeera, i welcome to the stream i manage habit, dean israeli citizens put prime minister benjamin netanyahu back in the office for a 6 term. since then, he's formed a government with ultra nationalists and ultra orthodox parties and filled key
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ministerial positions with far right leaders. now palestinian, still reeling from one of the deadliest years in decades. worry that settlements will expand, violence will increase and the occupation will become all the more permanent. today we ask, what does israel's new far right government mean for palestinians? ah, joining us to discuss from occupied east jerusalem journalist sharla bahati, also an occupied east jerusalem, yada hardy. senior analyst of ad saba, the palestinian policy network, and with us from port to a leg grey, mary m at hootie palestine correspondent for mando ice. and of course we want you to join the conversation. so be sure to share your thoughts and questions with us right here on youtube. ah, so much to discuss. i want to start with a very simple question. let's just go, ah, of birth, starting with you marian,
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let's start with you. how would you describe this government in one word, you fascist, yada israel. dead up, a predictable israel, fastest and predictable. all right, so those are some key terms to maybe frame this discussion. i'll ask you met him, how is this new government fashion and what really sets it apart from the previous governments? how will this impact palestinians? i think the only thing that the government apart from other governments is the way it is for trade media other than not very on brands. if they true to the essence of the israeli project, which is an ethnic cleansing, and it is driving policy out in order to replace them demographically. and yara, when you say israel, is it just more of the same? what did you mean by that? i mean,
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how do you think or has the new government already started to impact palestinians their daily lives? i mean, the reason i said it was israel is because this is the true face of israel. it doesn't hide behind a liberal facade which has done so for so many decades. i'm already feeling, you know, the full on the effects of this very crude regime. you know, it's not, it's not necessarily super different from what come before, but me much more violent in their rhetoric to other students. and this is emboldening certain active in society. namely, the settlers in the west bank who are using this as a greenlight to go all out against palestinians. and when she talks about the settlers july, i'm curious, you said predictable. are you worried that there will be increase settler activity that this will impact palestinians and what about it? what about maybe some of the key ministerial positions might be making you worry
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about that? now the way i saw this coming when i 1st started is it's a, it's a fit, a very natural results of where israel is to day of it's a natural progression of what israel is become. what we saw in the past years of settler expansion and violence and, and all the horrible apartheid and whatever we saw. it's only going to get a fire truck with this government is, is let me pull a fast track, it would be amplified. it would be only increased, it's not going to be different than what happened before in different governments. it's just going to be put on even on steroids. it's israel on steroids with this specific government. that's why his rates are protesting. by the way, the israelis are opposing this government because they fear that they will lose the status quo for pressing palestinians and the whole world to remain silent. this government is just wanting to fast track the ethnic cleansing anderson for expansion and make it all go happen cluster. and that's why i'm concerned. and you
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know, i appreciate you outlining those concerns in that way. i saw maybe i'm, you were nodding and we have people in our youtube chat, live timing in here. when you talk about ethnic cleansing, obviously a term that makes a lot of people uncomfortable, but a term that is accurate. and i want to ask, is it accurate? i mean, many and blood nodes on youtube saying what this means for palestinians is dead out . is that what's actually happening here? it's, it's either get out or accept the status quo. they pass lean. that means accept being in prison for no reason. other than b, palestinian, that means accepting that your water resources are going to be stolen and then sold back to you. really, really, corporations. that means that settlers all they have to do is fill up their candied shoot. you as we have seen consistently last year. so operation break the weight on
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which is continuing until today. and i, i want to share with our audience a clip from al jazeera senior correspondent, enron con, about how the conversation has shifted on the ground i. since on the new government i came to be take a look lowest order. well, palestinians state any more on the right way of the v is ready parties. you're hearing people say the occupation is now permanent and that's something that was always kind of dismissed when it was said out loud. but now people are taking that seriously. they say that the mayor of been a good player, he is a national security minister. he has been convicted of racism tools, polishing. this was the arabs. he's openly racist. he's now in charge of the police force that was the 1st big concession lay ego from benjamin netanyahu. we're always trying to look for honestly and constantly. we're up against people who are best lives. and now those lies seems with dissipating people of just being completely
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honest and open with what they would like. which is kind of the palestinians house going completely the palestinians out of palestine completely echoing some of what you all have, discuss gelata when you see that video. and i'd like to hear from all of you on this, i mean, the national security minister in particular what, what stood out to you. that's what stood out to me just some of the policies that, that might be down the pipeline. what stood out to me is that the ideal design isn't the way it started by the same and over decades. and what we've witnessed is a very concentrated and systematic operation of expelling and ethnic cleansing this land of his native inhabitants. it's been happening slowly and fast depending on periods. but what we're seeing today is the, this new government is not concerned about taking it slow is not concerned about the public opinion is concerned about what the rest of the world thinks. and it's just like israel is ethnically supremacist state based on ethnic
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supremacy for the jewish colonizers. and it's not, it's not going to be merciful and the native inhabitants. and it's just normalizing jewish supremacy to the whole world saying this is the jewish state and it would be okay to just move all those palestinians forcefully and kill and shoot and move them out. and people that do this new government is trying to convince the world that it's israel's right to do this. based on the core based tenants of zionism, which is like this jewish that has to be established and dominated, donate this land right and not be ashamed of its purpose. right? and i'm not cleansing along, i'm not that through premises narrative for lack of a better word. i mean, i want to ask you ya, we, we have this graph just to give a sense to our audience, the growth in the number of settlers since netanyahu 1st took office in 1996 to 999
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. then again in 2009 of course this, these are sort of conservative numbers, but you do see the trend rising and rising. we know now some people say the estimates were 100. i think it's half a 1000000 or even more 600000 fentler's. but more importantly, you know, in my law, in areas where, let's just say the reactions seem to have been strongest. i want to share with you, yada. someone asked me the isa, who had this to say about the new government, and we'll come right back to you. take a listen. well, this is key, is that this is an extremist government run by netanyahu and banga via who is minister of national security. it showed he will be an extremist governments and the situation won't be calm. it seems it is clear with the israeli public on the palestinian public. that will be so many things that the government will do that and not find by the palestinian site. and this will cause a lot of trouble. why should i have something we will call you after you heard him say many things that the government will do?
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what are some of the most alarming things that you're aware of? and are this promises and pledges inevitable? i mean, is there a way off this disaster dystopian roller coaster we're on i mean, some of the things that we can expect from this new coalition government is a much sort of tied to the rain over the west bank. it to my bank, the ministerial portfolio also includes the presence where policy, political business to help. so we're quite worried about what the consequences off in the case that you showed up with your colleague who was discussing it and then give it as a racist. i mean, that's true of every single israeli partition, whether they are right, left or center to believe in a state that is only for one group of people or that one group of people have the right to dominate another group people basis and it's in, at it's very cool at it's very essence. so i think we have to be very careful when
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we're talking about these. so called extreme is current is ok. they are crude, you know, it's going to be it, it talks about shooting dead palestinians or arabs. but yeah, lucky you or betty ganz talks quite openly about bombing goes back to the stone age . so really, there isn't a huge difference. it's about rhetoric. it's about the language that they used to talk about these races policies. most certainly i, you know, and i just want to share some visualization of, you know, we've heard 2022. this has been one of the roughest or deadliest or most violent years. i mean, we have this animation of just some of the headlines that we've seen, right? of palestinians who've been killed in 2023. forgive me just in the beginning of 2023. right. i think in the 1st 2 weeks it was already in the dozens or over a dozen. and again, i don't want to focus too much on the depths for as important as they are. we know that the lives are also i'm so difficult. and so i appreciate you kind of breaking
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through some of that framing. do you worry then about the framing that this is the most far right? that, that like, you know, i know, i know, for example, you july, you have had 1st hand experience with some of this settler violence that is expected to continue to rise. could you share with us what that actually means? and also why you're certain this is getting worse. for in the past, the settlers would be wanting to make a stand to be, to become bolder, to be challenging the government and challenge them those really occupation military in the, in the west bank. specifically, they would be wanting to accentuate policy. but now we have those extremists who would go on and attack and commit arson attacks against villagers in the west bank and the ones who are actually acting in violent acts. they are the ones in government. they are the ones who came from todd from from could get out of by in
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the middle of hebron. bang via and his as, as allies and smudge the ones we see on the heads up the hilltops, the terrorist sectors, the ones attacking policies are actually in the government. and this is why it's a bit of a concern because the ones we fear the most in our daily lives to the ones are attacking our cars and injuring us directly. or actually the one setting policy in the past. it would have been some leader in tel aviv, or jerusalem, trying to pretend that the settler regime is just acting on its own. while we know that the sector team is empowered by the israeli government and sustained by the general rent today. they are the government, the settlers is the government and they are the ones conducting the policies all over the secretary. and i saw many i'm you were not in agreement. i mean, why is that such an important point? and how do we know, how are we certain that some of those attacks that a lot of was outlining are going to continue to increase so they
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attacked that sheila was a result of previous attacks that happened in a more spread out manner when it was in less frequency we saw the arse than the fact in duma. that left an entire family was burned to death in 2015 and it near novice. and these are all micro aggressions that preceded what is happening now. and what we're seeing is just an intensification about it. i think in the 1st video that we saw then mentioned there openly, racist. i think that's the only difference it been viewed is no different than nixon. yeah. that one is just more openly races. then it could be, it was refused. i'm to the israeli military when it was time for him to serve because he was considered too dangerous. now this man has control over the entirety of these early armed forces and, and, and this is, it's,
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it's emblematic of what is to come and it's gonna be bloody and it's gonna be ugly . and palestinians are gonna deal with it. and then our resistance is going to be criminalized. well, i think that's even worse. i'm so glad you bring up that point. so there been rumors, i've heard that there is an actual law trying to codify what is already happening, right, which if a palestinian is resisting occupation, unlike ukrainians, resisting occupation. but somehow in the law, legally, israel has a right. they've already been killing palestinians who resist, but now it's going to be codified in law on my, on my writing and understanding this medium yada. anyone want to clarify that for our audience? i mean, it's always been codified and israeli know because he is ready. supreme court has always upheld these extra digits, are killing him when the israeli army has had open fire regulation. so this is actually been a common transit, something that the israeli regime does just was showed for practice. so there have
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been many ways in which the israeli regime has, in a sense, legalized these kinds of killing. but of course, it doesn't matter what the, it's where the regime doesn't come to its own judicial system. the what the renovation is doing is illegal on the international law and under the international legal regime. so i think we have to be very clear when we're talking about legality and legality. most certainly, and i appreciate how many am please what they're doing is trying to evade accountability. so in the future on or trying to try a soldier or a commander, they can plead that they were only acting within the law of their state. and i think that's what's happening here. codification is for the future. not for now. for now, they're going to continue what they've been doing, killing they both an entire state over math, and now what they're looking at, especially as we're pursuing international accountability, is how to keep themselves from that. right. and of course we've seen,
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i'm very mindful that we do not have and israeli jewish citizen on this panel on this conversation on in this conversation. that said, there has been a conversation growing in israel, where we've seen, you know, 100000 people protesting mostly against the judicial reforms that have been proposed, but also against whose core corruption. and i want to ask quite openly, i mean, actually let me frame it this way. we have in fact already asked. so let's bring in a jewish voice. we have roy yellen, the director of public, our, each from bit salem, who was among the protesters there. and television, we asked him what the motivation is about how to save israeli democracy if you will take a little i was among the for the 3rd leave against israel, the government attempt to destroy the judicial system. the new government is explicit. the bodies id, ology, of jewish supremacy. but that was also that the ology doesn't guided previous israeli governments. new threats are opposed by this government,
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the human rights of other groups. in addition to opinion. it seemed that the majority of the 3rd probably did not share the same view. that is really not a democracy, but rather in apartheid regime, yet at least a significant minority among them did to lot. what do you think? anyone who wants to jump in? i it's, it's a thing that it's been talked about a lot, a lot of them, perhaps the ones who see the occupation, the ones who see apartheid, the ones who see what's actually happening on the ground like us by the citizens. mainly we understand that no protests in television, no matter if it's 800000 or a 1000000 going out in the street and tell if it doesn't matter if they're just calling for preserving a democracy, which was never a democracy, was never a democracy for anyone living in this land, when over 5000000 people come up to even participate in the votes and people are
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living under apartheid and all that, the 2nd matches, they are fighting against the judicial reforms, and those reforms, the people protesting against that netanyahu reforms are actually calling to maintain the status quo, to protect their soldiers from being persecuted by, by courts. they, they're wanting to maintain high school to protect the soldiers who commit crimes against the palestinians. that's why it's the thing to maintain the status quo, to protect their soldier, to protect their children. who are actually killing palestinians in the occupied territories on a daily basis. i do not believe in any protest that goes on in any part of it. i don't even see it actually because i hear about my life and the life of the policy and the well being of our people don't care about someone who wants to maintain up are tight rather than demolish it a lot. i appreciate that. and before i let anyone else jump in, i do want to just bring in some of the voices and are you to chat a lot of people on youtube, understandably very concerned for the well being of palestinians. one of them,
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brad lovely, asking how does israel manage it's long term image of being a moral per i on the global scene. also saying how do we empower palestinians to create sustainable eco savvy revenue streams to find their way? and lastly, how is the united nation stepping up to buffer any worst case scenarios arising from this disturb? yeah, well, when it comes to the united nations, before i let you respond, i'm gonna play this clip from prime minister benjamin netanyahu. maybe he can help help us answer this. take a listen mo, mo, like all the hundreds of distorted decisions against israel that were passed by the general assembly of the united nations over years. also, the despicable decision that was passed today will not buying the israeli government. the jewish people are not occupiers on their own land, nor occupiers in our eternal capital, jerusalem, and no un resolution can warp that historical to still exist. so of course, madam, i would love your reaction for our audience who doesn't understand the context. this was in reaction to the international court of justice providing an opinion on
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israel's occupation as despicable so that's what he called the ben mariam, your thoughts to some of those questions that were asked in youtube. and before i also get to the aisles one to bring up that the protests that were happening in tel aviv, i think it's less about what they are processing. and we need to look at how the israeli police and, and authorities responded to these protesters. ah, met is very telling of how israel is an apartheid. i met regina that if it was palestinians, we would have been shot until it wouldn't just have been news of oh, there are protesters. so that's important. i think that's the most important thing about what was happening there. nathaniel speaking, he's a killer. he sanctions on the mass killing of palestinians. so of course he's known things. it's despicable. every sociopath thing sits despicable under health um ah,
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on an accountable to their times. but in terms of empowering palace names. but we need right now is a disempowering of israel and ideally jeremiah zation of israel to exist. and i think this is the staff where we're at right now. no, no. sutler has the right to create the state by ethnically cleansing a population period that is non negotiable. and i think that's where we should and, and that includes boycotting on is ready products that and boycotting is reading earth it in, it's mary more certainly and, and i want to give you a chance yard. i know you were gonna jump in there before you do we have this treat just based on what marian was talking about, that outlines a blow to normalization as robert carter cause it. oh, man's parliament voting to expand the boycott of israel in support of palestine criminalizing ties with tel aviv. i want to ask you with that in mind. yacht, obviously a lot of indications of kind of, ah, you know, normalizing the status quo. but what, what, what did you think about that move and also what medium was all learning?
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what i want suggests, you know, what you asked about in terms of israel's image. you know, these really regime doesn't have to do much to uphold its image. look at the count, the world's most powerful countries in the united states, which in itself is a brutal settler colony. you have the arab regimes which normalized with with israel, which despotic schemes, which will so crush internal descent. so, you know, is, i was no exceptional when it comes to violations of human rights or atrocities or ethnic cleansing, or colonialism for that matter. so you know, how can we expect these other countries to sort of state, take a stand against the authority regime when, when they're just as brutal and they, they also commit acts. so i think we always have to view it in that context that the israeli regime is sustained by an unjust world by unjust regimes across the world. and one of your common one of the comments in the, in the chip section,
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you know, asked about ecos james for financing palestinians. you know, this isn't about money every day. it's not that we lack money. this is that we lack political power behind us. and there is a political will to change or to challenge the israeli regime. and so the most important thing that people can do globally is not give money to palestinians. i mean, certainly support humanitarian efforts. but it's to change the politics in the countries where they are to politics, that is more receptive to justice, to global justice, and to palestinian liberation. and yara, what an incredible point to, and on i was actually going to ask another great question, but we're running out of time. and obviously that is such a critical point. you know, this idea that we didn't even discuss maybe an elephant or one of the elephants in the room is the absence of palestinian leadership. a lot of elections there. a big disconnect. i would argue a conversation that's very relevant to the one we have today. so hopefully you will all join us again soon. i mattie,
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