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a perceived lack of action by the un force to protect them. okay, you're up to date those, the top stories, the stream is coming up next asking what's needed to enter the energy crisis in south africa? how do you see control information? how did the narrative include public opinion? how if this is intentionally, can we blame the story? the lithium post dissects the media. we don't cover the news. we cover the way the news is cover. ah ah, welcome to the stream, my math minutes have a dean for near the 100 consecutive days there had been rolling blackouts in south africa, a country grappling with an energy crisis that it can't seem to shake in response. the president has declared a state of disaster as a step towards trying to find a resolution. so what will it take to end the energy crisis in south africa?

well, let's start today's conversation with a video sent to us from a small business owner in johannesburg. the rolling par black, also and predictable. so you can't even plan according to them. sometimes you only have 4 hours of electricity a day. and that means that we have to now get people to work over time. you have to bring in part time people to come in during the hours and we do have power in yet you still have to pay a hefty amount every month for the $3.00 phase industrial facility supply where they use it or not have increased security and transport costs to drive our people home if that work overnight. and now if a food generated at 50 percent now, because we are not able to fulfill all of our orders on time. and that means we leave a lot of money on the table. and that means are going to take cost cutting measures, such as letting people go or cutting our production lines. joining us to discuss from johannesburg, camila, st. louis, missouri, la spokesperson for the national union of metal workers of south africa. also in

johannesburg, jacob maroka, director of erin knight, energy, and former c. e o of s. com, and also with us from pretoria energy expert who's a molest, a thank you so much for being with us. and of course, we also want you to join the conversation, so be sure to share your thoughts and questions directly with us on youtube. so, i want to start by talking about who's being impacted. i mean, businesses are closing daily tasks. we hear like cooking or charging a phone in south africa, requiring planning and economists are warning of a recession. who say, how are you being impacted by this? ah, this impacts on everyone really including myself. as the energy, as you know, is an input, a critical input to the corner, me, whether it's hospitals with what i treatment works, that impacts on the water supply is the industrial use of individuals at home. i mean, i'm sitting yes some way in an office because my house has been no chair. did that

impact for me that impacts my business. so it then impacts that is throughout the agriculture sector. heavily impacted in terms of education isn't really as that has that you can say is not impacted by changing south africa. and that's why i want to try to give our audience a sense of the scale of the problem. just how big a crisis it is, as you just did talk to me like, can you give us a scale in your, in your mind of who's most effective and why the crisis feels like it's deepening. oh, this is a terrible crisis that is in gulf south africa and it in our view is if this continues the crisis of low cheating, we are going to see increased civil unrest just because of the fact that the massive, massive job cuts taking place in south africa, the at the, at the moment this deepens, unemployment,

poverty and inequality. we've already had social unrest happening about 23 years ago. so this is just going to deepen that, that kind of tension and the frustration that the, the masters are feeling at the moment because of the impact. i mean, it's affecting all areas of south africa yesterday when we held a press conference, we were talking not just about the cost, the bulk of 1000000000 ran to day, but help lucas will complaining about the fact that patients are dying on the table when the machines go off. so it really is a crisis. and you know, when we talk about this crisis, a lot of people in our youtube chat also trying to pinpoint for us what they think is the root of the problem cosmic wake saying to us, the privatization of energy generation is the root cause of the problem now, jacob, i want to share with you, i know you're familiar with these facts, but also for our viewers. some quick kind of facts about the energy situation in

the country. more than 90 percent of the country's power is generated by the state utility s. com. the daily power shortfall, if you can imagine 40026000 megawatts as comes debt is approaching 400000000000 ran . that's $25000000000.00 in 2022. there were $207.00 days with power cuts, and now the country is nearing $100.00 consecutive days of blackouts. jacob, if you have to explain this to us as an engineer, if you will, and someone you know, 1st hand with 1st time experience, i should say as company, what do you think is the fault in the system? why is this happening? well, the direct cause of the problem is the performance of our generation code and then measure that to use the number called energy availability of sector

and ordinarily, or the target. it's a bob said it in a, but you know, we have, you know, we have come from a 90 percent performance. now we're below 50. so half of your cold sleep, half of the time, i'm not available. and that's at the center of the class. you can debate the causes, we can debate what, who's, you know, who's to blame. but the technical direct technical problem is we've got a fleet that is not performing to expected outputs. and you know, when we look at the conversation today, the president speaking announcing a state of disaster, a lot of critics, you know, suggesting that maybe he's out of touch with the reality of what's happening just to give our audience a sense of what just happened. people time in thing, his decision to appoint a new minister of electricity will get that as part of job creation as we can see

here on twitter. some people poking fun perhaps at that announcement, this is the mean with drake. people thing. root out corruption and criminal elements and that's come, no, accelerate, implementation of independent power producers. no, but that somehow the minister of electricity is an announcement that's going to solve this problem. what do you make of these sort of criticisms? who say what i make of it is that i was hoping that the president will consolidate rather than to have even more structures coming up. because he mentioned that the department of public enterprises will continue with the restructuring. just in that you transition. he mentioned that in the climate a committee that is within his presidency will continue with the job in the transition and then try to send him a new minister of electricity when we have

a lot of functional department that's supposed to deal with this. and so in my view, and then there's the national electricity crisis committee that also see to thing the presidency for me, i was hoping for more consultation in terms of what the structure that's already there with the plan that you put in place to ensure that we accelerate, trying to being in this solution rather than in more structures. i mean, the national treasury going to look at the human side management mentions for businesses generate has an all local thing for me. i was hoping for better consolidation. so better consolidation is what she was hoping for. a puck, me a, i want to know how about the, how about you? i mean, just, just to share, one more tweet that came, came on line that we thought was noteworthy. sand thing. so basically he have no solution useless. and then another one here love that woman saying, who is this president really addressing? when most of the country is on load shedding. now i know, you know, what load setting is load setting is

a term to refer to these outages. these cuts take a look at this graph. i want to share with you packing me late. this is a visualization of days with load setting. so you can see, aside from 2016, 2017 increasing since then. and the dramatic increase in 2022 as well as this year back to me. what do you make of, of these kind of criticisms of the president and how serious it seems, the government's really taking this. so our perspective as an em sir, has always been that the, this government is not really serious about tackling low cheating. you heard your experts over there, mr. jacob model, who's a former c of s, gone and a bona fide energy expert telling you that our problems of mismanagement of the maintenance program for the coal fleet, escal and escal itself in his own, in its own reports, have said that the faster solution to deal with locating tomorrow or today is for

us to maintain our co fleet so that we can actually ensure that we provide regular electricity. he did not focus on that. what we heard this evening was a, a more programs to ensure the greater involvement of the private sector in energy generation. yes, he touched on maintenance, he mentioned it. but the focus, if you want to resolve load shitting at quickly, that is the faster solution. and what we've been saying, as mom said, is that this load shedding is deliberate, and we say it's deliberate, because as long as there's no lights, then we can justify the privatization of escal. we shouldn't forget that just a mere full 5 years ago in 202018. in january 2018, president obama pasa appeared before the war. the chronometer forum. he told the delegates there that we were not investing in nuclear because at that time south

africa had excess energy. right now, how did we move from excess? no. and to an inability to provide electricity. and i metals you, i'm out for a month and that for vac, mary. are the government that's responsible for? yeah. and i don't, i don't with her you off with. that's exactly the question that we're wondering, and you also take into effect some contextual figures for audience they may not know. of course, the 3 of you do know that south africa relies on coal for 80 percent of its energy needs. as you heard, jacob parker mulay saying, this is deliberate. do you agree? i'm curious. well, i wouldn't go. it's deliberate. but let me say, and let me just say 2 things. and see, live set consolidation and folks. the problem is at as calm and it's a cold feet problem. and if you don't, if you started in many other things but confuses the problem,

then you get the solution. so focused on the real problem, which is the performance. all right, the feet of estimates, the consolidated responsibility divide and it must be clear because we come from it, you know, in the past few months where there seems to be disjuncture between the shareholder ministry and the policy lead time. so you know who's accountable so . so, so the ok, now forgive me, i appreciate you saying where we should be focusing and because you are redirecting our focus, if you will. i'd like to redirect our focus a little bit to the actual impact on human lives. you know, doing that, forgive me, jacob, i'll come right back to you, but i want you to listen to what one man at a recent protest in cape town had to say about how much talk there is. but so little action we really saw you do, you know,

i'm going to load shading day off today and we want to see that actually taken. i believe there's a lot of products. there's a lot of things that people bring within what the government, but we don't see real action being taking place. then i think today it does the form of selling the people in government that do that. the we, we want to speak to jacob, go ahead, finish your point, but take into consideration that concern that there's so much talk and so little action. yes. you see the problem is that when you put a problem with the cold feet and we know that is the most important solution. when you start eating things like, you know, you want to pick the sex in sick consequences. but technically, that is not going to move the needle on your problem and we start talking i'm, but at least like to the pie and it just when we know that that is a long term project number to solve that. so, so,

so call me consolidating and focusing on the real problem and in highlighting the management of s from to do whatever it needs to be done to, to, to turn around the cold feet. is the most important. ok, i solution. i'm glad we're talking solutions, but you know, that might make a lot of sense. but what about the people who are actually suffering their lives being interrupted? talk me like could you explain to us what that actually looks like maybe for you or for those that you are representing here today? well, for work because of noon. so what that looks like, his job loss. because in the manufacturing sector where we have a majority of membership, in fact, cheese and small to in mining, in the auto sector and the motor victor, it means that there is a reduction in production. and when companies are not producing an optimum levels, they, it results in job losses. yesterday we heard painful story from the health and allied

in double workers trade union, which is a trade union in south africa representing health care workers. and they say that when this low shooting, they have to choose between which patients to manually recitation resuscitate, and which patients to, to let die. and this is the situation we're facing. and when you have this sort of life and death situation staring you in the face, and you've got a government of, of, so i'm a part of that can stand before the people and pontificate about solutions that are not going to solve the problem today. it tells you that these people don't take this quite serious. yeah. and you know, you say pontificating about the solutions. well, the, the, was the way on twitter said on his question, after watching the president pontificate. does he even live in the same country as us now that may be tongue in cheek, but i think it does highlight the disconnect that people feel. we also see that in you tube, people timing into this conversation. for example, just in my berg thing,

we export our electricity to namibia and the soto, but we can't provide for our own country make it makes sense. well, to people who do make sense. but listen to what some farmers have to say about the energy crisis. and what you were outlining just how it affects their livelihoods. so we are coming out of 678 draws. then it was covert now. it's the lack of a lack of bellwood and energy and yard, some commodity so far more. just tell me, like, can go on like that. they must make a call and they can leave their forms of something like that. they're bludgeoning, considering i think we'll, we'll lose a lot of possibility to fall off them. honest feelings in feel like i'm out of most of the business crusade seems

like the disruption is quite dire there as they're explaining it. what do you see as the short term solution or trajectory that the government should be headed in there's really no other solution except for the solution that we've been mentioning yet. saying that is a coal fired power plant, consist of 80 percent of our total supply, south africa. and without concentrating on that and having only 50 percent of those pop plant generating electricity. you are not going to come up with a problem because it's going to take you years infrastructure as long the time. it's going to take you yes, to bring in new infrastructure. so all the solutions we're talking about from regional buying power from utilities. that's just not sufficient doing procurement program. that's good, that's good. but that will do not enough of the problem. the primary problem that you need to solve is to seek

a fix that was qualified powerfully and make sure that it's operating optimally. at least the board of understand that because if that that is one of the priorities and they've given us timelines in terms of which they wish to turn around that. i think that the other solution that it use the president confirmed today is that the national treasury will help us in terms of the debt that the o m. by reducing it go, that solution is coming and we hope it comes sooner rather than later. those are the interventions that you need to support. s. com. we put that they can go regional equipment manufacturers that can help them address this problem. and you know, i'm curious. jacob, you seem like you are nodding as we were hearing from a who say there, what do you make of the president's performance recently in terms of how he's trying to quell the concerns of the public. not necessarily asking you did to comment in the state of a commentator but, but i have to say

a lot of the people that we've been hearing from, for example, i'll share with you one video comment that was sent to the show from the bun, gets in the deli live though kind of really highlighting just what this devastating last means for people to take a listen. didn't realize this isn't the place and we've been continues to stare the services and provide comprehensive care to their patients because they will come located the stuff in tell you that because in class and i'm going to be teaching to which is the labels. this is

a challenge and we'll get to the prompting healthcare facilities. i mean that's a serious concern, is, is the president, do you think a giving the public, the sense that he takes this as seriously as their lives are being affected? look, i think i think he takes it seriously. well, well, what criticism is the solution c, please? scraps. i think that little people that are giving him baby ideas, which i believe are removing the focus on the really in some cases, the sense that interest, business interests, especially around you, is become to go mean and in taking over the crisis to pause, you know, do you have a f, a, a pace in any grid for the purposes of reducing emissions, but the don't bring stability of supply that is required by fixing what is broken.

and i think, and i think, you know, i mean, this is not a problem, but in the particular, this west and every time you go to staples, nation, it, we have, it's actually a west problem. so i left it, we'll see it turned out really turn around. yeah. in less space of locating welding the steps. i'm glad that you brought up renewables in that question. in our youtube chad. bob saw saying why aren't south african benefiting from solar energy? a lot of people bringing up renewable energy as well. for example, we had a video comment sent to us from re beto mckoko, a chef there in south africa, who well take a listen to what she said. so we tried, we tried to get more guess appliances by millions of teaching finances. we can afford solar energy, we kind of were generated. so guess is our next thing. so we try to catch like

a guess avenue that we use when they slow shooting. we try and beat them to schedule, so we try and talk and blend and boil things out with a castle before the shooting goes also, it's just a matter. we actually just always working in a panic mode. those are some of the things and not stocking as much. so we buy limited dr. wade and limit food. what is because the losses that will in terry will be having to my so working in a panic mode does not seem like a recipe for success. for any economy or a business or individual, you know, without in mind poking me there, i'm wondering if it seems obvious that the whole world south africa included, needs to move away from fossil fuels. but what does that transition look like? i mean, how can it be adjust transition in your mind? well, we have to both the state that what's other because doing and what the south african government is implementing is not a just transition even though the president use the term multiple times in his sona

today. he was perverting the term because as a working class and the poor of this country, we are experiencing extreme hardship as a result of the really senseless decision to rush to move off the dependence of a coal fired power stations and rush to implement renewable energy. we prescribe to the just transition principles as defined by the international labor organization, which actually rules which talk about how this transition must actually address the socio economic problems of other africa. so in other words, if your transition is going to result in more joblessness, more inequality, higher prices of energy, it's not just transition. and that's what's happening in south africa. you've got the renewable energy sector, which is entirely controlled by the private sector. s. com has no role to play in rolling on renewable energy and he didn't even talk about on the way the closure of

these co, 5 power stations is going to result in 100000 jobs last. right. so good. all of that violates what it does. transition is what we're seeing in south africa is just green capitalism running rampant. and it's, and it's going to have a destructive effect on the poor. and perhaps it already has a lot of people in our youtube, chad saying, you know, you need to remove the statement awfully. and ask scientists and engineers to step in and direct the projects. we also have jacobs, the bang thing, the whole load setting thing is affecting his business in such a way. his sales have dropped and he's thinking of closing shop. and last but not least tar con thing south africa has solar and wind power in abundance. but we can't change because of the state monopoly. so a lot of people echoing some of the concerns that you shared with us today. i want to thank you, jacob, and all of our guest for being with us today. talk to me they of course, and who say, we will see you next time and this is a conversation that we will be following here at the stream. you can follow us

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