tv The Bottom Line Al Jazeera February 13, 2023 9:00am-9:30am AST
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i'm carry johnson harring doha. the top stories on al jazeera, one week on since earthquakes struck turkey and syria. the death toll from a disaster has surpassed. 35000 people rescue workers continue to search through the rubble of the chances of finding any one else alive or becoming more remote. it's article name is in and talk you search and rescue operations. however, do continue here. they continue in 8 provinces. here in the south that have been declared disaster areas to into other provinces, they have seized operations. this is a mammoth effort. 233000 people on the ground trying to help turkey or recover and with no electricity, very little food, no amenities. many people are still trying to evacuate, move to places that are safer, warmer and have food. was 62 building contracts as have been arrested in turkey and
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connection with the collapse of buildings a property develop who was arrested on fridays, he tried to leave the country opposition. parties accused the governments of not enforcing building regulations. when we con from the earthquake, syrians say they've been failed by the international community a that has been slow to arrive in their revel health northwest. he wins aid chief, visited the area on sunday, and says that people are right to feel they've been abandoned. more than 5700 people in syria were killed with bodies is still being pulled from collapsed buildings. in the garage roof of the shop, sort of the whole world, let the syrian people down below them, or if his destruction was in europe or a foreign country, the whole world would have gathered to rescue those killed doesn't. but here no one cares on. israel has carried out early morning air strikes on several parts of garza. this video shows the attacks and the palestinian enclave is really media says it's rocket attacks on targeting weapon sites belong to hamas. israel's
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cabinet has recognized 9, a legal settler outpost in the occupied west bank despite passed us opposition. a far right minister also said 10000. the housing units could be built in separate existing, illegal settlements. palestine authority has called the decision in open war against the palestinian people. the u. s. has announced that yet another unidentified high altitude object has been shot down. is the 3rd such incident in as many days. the latest interception took place over. they who run north of detroit, the object was 1st detected of montana on saturday. the head of the wagner mercenary group says it could take 2 years for russia to fully seize control of ukraine's eastern regions of done yet. and the hands of any precautions statement comes as a mercenary force claims to have captured the eastern village of crossing the horror. now back loot this video and actually shows wagner soldiers in the village exit polls in berlin. city state elections suggests the conservative christian
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democrats are on course for clear. victory is a major blow to charleston, although shelves, social democrats, who governed the capital region for 22 years. thousands are without power in new zealand. after cyclone gabrielle hit, the north island, severe weather warnings have been issued in a state of emergencies in place. in oakland, schools across the city have been closed while trains, fairies and multiple flights have been cancelled. they throw just have forecast, wind speeds, about 130 kilometers per hour. people are continuing to flee from fighting in eastern democratic republic of congo. the army says it's pushing back fighters from the m 23 armed group. it says the violence is now centered around kennedy away. 50 kilometers from the provincial capital. goma. 4000 people are seeking shells when they're rapidly growing. make shift camp in with anger, just outside governor firefighters. in chile,
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you say they're making progress containing massive wildfire that have been burning across central regions. at least 24 people have died. fires have destroyed with a 1000 homes. aleck and football fans are celebrated in kansas city. also chiefs claimed a nail biting super bowl victory of the philadelphia eagles. the chiefs one at 38 to 351 winning field. go over the eagles with just seconds to play when he's continues here and i'll just hear after the bottom line lou, i am steve clements and i have a couple of questions. how aligned or the united states in france on the war in ukraine, and how aligned are they on everything else? let's get to the bottom line. ah, frances, always argue that europe should be able to have its own unique foreign policies,
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even if they don't line up 100 percent, with those of europe's biggest allies, the united states, at the start of the ukraine war, about a year ago, french president emanuel macros said the west must be careful not to humiliate russia and emphasize frances ability to act as a mediator. when the time comes for negotiations. as macro is also push the concept of european strategic autonomy and a new concept called the european political community. that brings together $27.00 . you leaders with 17 other leaders from the continent currently outside the club, including the u. k, turkey, norway, and ukraine. despite this biden gave us 1st a dinner last year, celebrating the french president and elevated the alliance to one of the most vital and compelling america has. so how closely our america and france aligned? where did the 2 countries agree? and where did they agree to disagree? today were talking with veteran french diplomat, felipe, etc, and the ambassador of france to the united states. and before that chief diplomatic adviser to the president of france, ambassador at the end,
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thank you so much for joining us here today. you're right on the edge of leaving your post and going off to be a professor at columbia to think great thoughts and perhaps right, great books. but i'm interested in getting your strategic map as you look not just at the french american relationship, but the world about what you think we're not getting right. what do we as allies need to focus on? what, what, what worries do you have out there that are unaddressed right now? indeed, i think we, the worry in ukraine's is aggression by russia against ukraine. is some, something, it's very bad news it's. it's also very, very big news. it's war back to europe. so many years after world war 2 and my experience is that in february when it started and even before it started before it started because you knew it could come. we
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have had and we have had since then all the time, a very close called edition between the united states and its european allies, including the european union as such is so important as you said, for us, but also for the other members of the do. and this is a reassuring, in a very dire situation. and it says a lot about the depth of our alliance when we have to face such critical situation. at that time, in february, last year, france was the chair of the council of the european union. so we had to great, we had a big responsibility both in terms of uniting the member states of the to 27 member states of the you. but also in this relation with the united states.
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again, we have nothing to, to be had to you about what happened, what's happening now, considering the suffering, severe cleaning people and which means this war against all principles of international security committed. and this being committed by one of his 5 permanent members of the security council of the you and it means so, so much for our international order. but see, we have these 2 assuring factor that our alliance is strong and as push strong. of course, this has been confirmed during the state visit made by our president to washington and new orleans to the united states. and it was president biden's 1st state dinner exec. i wasn't about to say the 1st said visits under the mandate of this administration. whether or not, but as you said, it meant probably something about the depth of this, the oldest alliance,
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but also about what it is today about how strong it remains and how important it tweeter remains in the future for addressing the other challenges we speak about. now, are you worried though, and i don't know if i'm going to get this out right? but are you worried that there were many people that doubted the solvency of nato before this russian incursion into ukraine? even president macros before came out and talked about nato being brain dead, that people were not looking at how to make the relation that it required this shock of the russian invasion, so that the transit atlantic relationship could be re unified. you know, are you worried that we're too dependent on other things to happen so that the alliance can react strongly. but when that, when that bad event doesn't happen, we were drifting apart. when 1st such an alliance which is in the lines on security has been built to ensure the security of its members in the
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trans atlantic community and to face such. busy events to, to, to be able to answer. and you mentioned the statement made by the french president, the president my call a couple of years ago. but the context was very different. it was another us administration, as you remember. and you remember what the president of the the, that then president of don't you ring president from the term? yeah. and you, you remember some of the statements about nature. so, but also we had another issue which to such an extent remains and we have this terrible ass quick right now which hits the traditions in turkey and syria. we must also remember that at that time we had really difficult discussions about the attitude we should have in syria. was
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one of our allies with turkey that case. and this, this was, and this is still sensitive for us because the terrorist attacks against paris in 2015 and we plotted from north east syria, as you may remember, you know, november 2015. so this was a contact center that even under the trump administration and still more after the new administration, there was a big work which has been done at nato, including on the conception of what we are for, including re affirming that we're here to ensure our common security against in europe, in particular, or in the atlantic region. and this was, has been, of course, very useful when russia has invented ukraine. and one of the things we had done, which is, which was really important, as nato was to rein force our,
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it's what we call our instant flag friends has sent troops and equipments to remain . yeah, for instance, right? because those countries are on the front line is i, mrs. so and the 2nd thing which has been important the issue as such is now a provider of security. also because security, the notion of security is much larger. it is not on the defensive. cyber it is energy, it is critical technologies and the he, you has now become a real actor. look, look at this raises a really interesting question. is you define security and threats and one of my pet peeves as we now define february 24th as the start of the ukraine war. president biden his and now he's going to go to poland on that day and be in poland on the day of the war began. but actually in my book, the war began on february 23rd, because that's when the cyber attack from russia actually began against ukraine.
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lots of defensive measure. that story turned out to be a rather good one for ukraine. but when we think about tanks and we think about cyber sabotaged, we don't treat them the same way. so i guess my question, he was twofold, is one, do we need to think differently about what we think drives conflict? do we need to move in and look at these tech interest? the other thing is, the presence going to poland is the center of gravity in europe, shifting from the western european countries to some of the eastern european edge of europe. first the ukrainians say rightly that the world didn't start on february 24 on february 23. a. but mia? a couple of years before. exactly. and we know we know this also because france and germany at that time were involved and try to, to, to stop this 1st floor, but also to meet it. and we know then what happened and how the russian
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leadership has decided to, to go to another still more brutal worry of invasion, but indeed, yes, cyber and all other dimensions. energy is weaponized in a way and can be, could be used as, as an element of pressure. we see a lot of different elements coming in to define a new security, which is security today. and we have to, of course, to, to have, as integrate as consistent vision of all those challenges to our security. this thing, the issue, the idea of security as evolve because we have know who have new spaces of conflicts, realty cyberspace is one of those. the men we have also space right there are heads, which is becoming anyway space and which is becoming more and more both an incredible perspective for
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a future with the relaunch of the base adventure on the moon and, and then and mouth, but also more and more so an issue for come in security and look at, look at the seas, the ocean's also, it's more and more as we see in the pacific atlantic it, it becomes again, a real issue of sovereignty of security. so we have to take all of this into account and we have in nature we have adapted as in the you, as united states, we have new concepts with no new strategy of security. and how about the role of eastern europe right now is rising. the when we the older members of the you are the founding members of the european union. we have seen those countries liberated from dictatorship for the communities. and we have of course reached out to them because they are, they have always been important countries for europe. poland,
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romania where i was and better i was investigating bucharest, you know, those countries check republics. love actually, hungary, the baltic republics. all of them also bulgaria were menu. all those countries matter for europe. you know, i have, i'm a passionate about european integration as you might know, safe because i met last times during my time in washington. every country matters in the u. a for me, it is not really interesting to say, is this country more in bought of now or has been they have always been important those the re unification of europe with poland, his romania resume. others was such an essential development of your opinion. and so of course, they are important maybe still more important now with the new geopolitical well context, but they are important anyway, when you were the president, president biden's state of the union address recently,
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and it struck me that president biden did spend a lot of time talking about how vital the, the global struggle for democracy is. and i look at some parts of eastern europe and, you know, the countries, you know, hungary, you've seen some other countries that you have to be honest. democracy in democratic practice in norms were to be kind wobbly. and maybe again, the russian invasion of ukraine is actually help the democrats out somewhat in some of these countries. but when it comes to values in democratic practice, do you have problems inside europe that may be rushes trying to exacerbate? do you are there? are there blind spots there that, that we should china light on? i think democracy is by far the best system for freedoms. but we know it is not an easy system is fragile and you know, it's also in the united states. so at the age of social media, for instance,
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we have to defend our democracies. we have to defend the values which are defining our democracy, such as the freedom of speech, but also the defense of the security of our people. all of this is really a find find balance to find, but also in a petition to convince our people that the democracy is well alive. we doing this in the you because if you, with all its member states is based on the idea of democracy, the european union, the european integration from the very beginning at the beginning of the 1950s has been a political union not only and economists union and at the base of this political union, the are the notion of democracy and freedoms. so of course, we have to have the conversation inside our community, but to come back to the war in ukraine. this is
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a war for the freedom of our peoples. and we must be aware not to limit this to the west or to the united states or to european nations and the united states. it's about the freedom of a people, the possibility for every nation to resist, to an invasion, to keep its freedom. what did you credence are fighting for is so important 1st, and it is not only a question of western democracies, it is a matter for everybody around the world. every nation which wants to keep that freedom, its national freedom, but also the personal freedom of its citizens. how worried are you about the fragility in that transitive atlantic economic relationship? recently, we've had the french finance minister, bruno lemaire in washington dc, and the german economics minister and vice chancellor. richard, hey, back here. basically, lobbying the government to keep open the inflation reduction act the want to get
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into that folks. but it's basically america's green, new deal, you know, softly deployed to look at all energy development and making sure that you're a piece. but there's an element of nationalism in it. domestic procurement requirements and, and some in europe are saying, hey, we need to do the same thing over that. we need to subsidize our own renew industries in europe. and i was listening to bruno lemaire and others talk about a race to subsidies in it could be negative for both sides. do you worry about that? is our facility there that we should be thinking about? we have this conversation was together was a war in ukraine. each was one of the main topics of the political discussion during the stead visit of prison on back home with prison biden. and also is the members of the congress match. we fundamentally agree with the political goals of the inflation reduction act we in europe,
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which is to fight for our climate for the climate, which is 11 of the most important challenges we face, but also to build both in europe and in the united states. strong, strong, green industries, strong green technologies, which make us and our supply chains more resilient. the issue is to coordinate, as our minister said, you recall if you warned against risk subsidies. the coordination is important to avoid this. and also because since we share the same political roles, we should be sure that each of our policy, our political instruments are still bolts, our subsidies are reinforcing. come and goals are to goals the plus residents, supply chains and technologies and efficient fight against climate. so it's, it's true that the europeans are worried. i've expressed some worries about some
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parts of the, some provisions of the i, but we have this conversation and we have reached already some results. and we will do the same in if you indeed we, we have started, of course we were started before the u. s. we in the, you have a sort of leadership in the world for the negotiation on climate. but we have because we are very ambitious goals, minus 55 percent of carbon emissions by 2030. it's a very ambitious goal. so we have started this climate policy in the u. but now we will step them up a bit like the us and we have to coordinate and to avoid between our economies, negative effects, but in, in the country to ensure that each of our policy is reinforcing our common outcome and goals that shipment of welcome and goals, let me ask you a question here that i, that i hope we can get a candid answer on. and i know that many minutes i always can. so us government
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officials right now. karen, dawn for many others. celebrate you as a diplomat. extraordinary. i'm but i'm interested in how really, how often you find america completely gets a frantic partner. like sometimes we're on and on the right message. sometimes we're off and i ask this with regards to strategic autonomy, which fascinates me because this is one of macros, important initiatives. and from my perspective, as an american, i think that france and europe overall being more capable about its own interest, more thoughtful about its own interest. more cont, committed to stability. there is a great global good in something the united states should want. but sometimes i think the united states says we want strategic autonomy too, but we want you to do what we want you to do. and so how much tension is there in the strategic economy game? what 1st, what you, which use describe is pretty natural, isn't it?
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i mean, very natural. it's all the europeans to do the things. and also i was always surprised when we speak about sovereignty or autonomy. it's normal that to europe, in se, are willing to decide for their own interests and for their own future. the question of sovereignty is, is an important one in the world, and it is not at all related again to us. on the contrary, we, in the world all directors, big challenges which make that it is both more, sometimes delicate, and also more important to defend our own sovereignty. and i, i've always been convinced and even passionate with it, that it's really important for the united states in the long term. but also into short term by the way, to have a stronger european union. which, you know, for instance, where the u. s. can rely on its european allies to do certain things on their own.
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it's obviously it's interest of the us both in the security field, but also also for the economy and to have a, as we said before, to have a stronger, a strong industrial technological base on the 2 sides of the atlantic. including for our own defense. it's important you look at what happens in ukraine, we have to provide the ukrainians with some equipments. we have to have the industrial base for doing that. let me ask, you know, we all have a big conflict with russia right now with what's going on ukraine, but when emmanuel manuel macro calls and putting picks up the phone, we have a lot of tensions with china right now. when macro calls she's in pain. she picks up the phone, is france, america's negotiator, is it the diplomatic offshore balancer? i am sure that the america is a book jamika shaped and also the u. s. government speaks with china, for instance,
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even if we had the recently some, some issues there. we do not pretend to be the only ones who speak with everybody, but you know, one of the basic recipes of the diplomacy, diplomatic work is you have to talk to the people with whom you disagree. because if you only talk to the people who is whom you agree, it is not really useful. so yes, we think also as one of the 5 permanent members of the security council of junior emissions that we have this responsibility. and this responsibility is global, and including in the context of the war in ukraine. it's really important that we keep a contact with deep into contact with. ok. so as a developing countries emerging countries, you spoke about russia, china, you're right. but look at all the other important are when members of
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the international community, the all the other g, 20 members. it's so important boss to discuss the war in ukraine, which is a threat to everybody in the world as i said, but also the global challenges. poverty remains a challenge, but also health global health. we have seen with climate bio diversity, right. it is important to speak to everybody and we, it's a bit a g, n, a of our diplomacy, and our president is very active indeed on this international well and pastor felipe, etc. and thanks for joining us today and good luck on your next venture. like you're safe. so what's the bottom line? friendship and trust between leaders and countries can go very far. but the only real thing that is dependable between nations is permanent interests. france has been america's ally from day one, in part because france did believe in the idea of gala t a and liberty, but perhaps more because it was an expedient course to take is france was gripped in a global struggle 250 years ago. with england,
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there may have been hiccups along the way, but paris and washington are on the same side. in so many global conflicts. macros efforts to push back here and there, and work on european strategic autonomy is not really seen as a threat by the united states, which doesn't have the resources or the same world view as europe on some strategic issues. america is not always paying attention sometimes at once, europe to have strategic autonomy and let's face it. sometimes it just wants to take orders and do what america wants it to do. washington could be a bits, gets a frantic and bipolar. but that's the nature of a lot of relationships. sort of like a long term marriage that still works. and that's the bottom line. ah, serious dog. his days was one man leading the country through uh, pleasant. alice's last legitimacy. he needs to step back. how has he retained
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