tv Up Front Al Jazeera February 13, 2023 11:30am-12:00pm AST
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also in place from midnight to 5 am, but nothing seems to be enough to stop new towers of blowing smoke from emerging c, n human al jazeera gardena chile. the kansas city chiefs have won the super bowl and a nail biting victory against the philadelphia eagles. and celebrations are in full swing in the mid western city. chiefs, one bessie 8 versus 5, securing the victory with feel go with to seconds to play. the 2nd in or chief spans at the match in glendale, arizona have been celebrating their team seconds super bowl title info. absolutely enjoy today's game to me when you come to the super bowl. you want it to be a game that's worth watching. you want it to be a game towards close, just like it was tonight. i'm a campus are as open from start to finish, so we were certainly advised to be here. i mean, listen, we have the 2 brass genes, ramirez alberta up in the superbowl. you can't beat that,
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you kind of ask for anything better than most your teens matched up and a close game like that. it was amazing. absolutely amazing. so of course, it was a little shaky at 1st. of course, patrick baldwin, dale of battles, bremar's over. he came back like a trooper, like always, an army corps, and the rig i give him credit, he play the clock to the t and of course, patch them all. was it basis will? ah, this is al jazeera, these, your top stories. it's been a week since 2 powerful earthquakes, strong turkey and syria. more than 35000 people have been declared dead across the 2 countries. the real toll is likely to be significantly higher. it is desperately needed some in tech air accusing the government of a slow response in some of the hardest hit areas. turkish authorities have arrested more than 60 people in connection to buildings that have collapsed, cynical,
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showed who has moved from a crisis center in the turkish capital. many accused the contractors then we saw some of the contractors trying to flee the country, but the justice ministry established earthquake investigation commissions under the chief public prosecutor's offices. of those main 10 city is affected by the earthquake and, and more than a 100 arrest warrens have been issued while they are still moments of hope. these on live pictures from among not us where rescue as a carton trying to free a mother and her newborn child, who are apparently still alive after being trapped onto the rebel for an incredible 7 days. syrian se the international community has failed them. 8 has been slow to arrive in the rebel held north west view. when's a chief visit to the area on sunday and says people, all right, to feel they have been abandoned. israel has carried out as strikes against several
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areas in gaza early on monday. sorry, the media, se hamas weapon sites were targeted. no casualties reported. and his roles cabinet has recognized 9 illegals settler outpost in the occupied westbank. despite past u. s. opposition and palestinian authority called it an open war against the palestinian people. as your headline news continues here, also up front lebanon state of collapse has become the country's new normal economy, is in ruins, is living on a failed state. so very tough question, because to prove otherwise is difficult, will lebanon be able to change course. the economy minister, i mean, talk shows either when the taliban read took control of ghana, stan a year and a half ago afghans and many in the international community feared that it would mean a return to the restrictive way that the past for women and girls in the country,
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despite initial assurances from the taliban women have now been borrowed from schools and universities, employment is restricted, and that was their right to access public basis. so what future is there for the women of afghanistan that's coming up, but 1st, january $26.00 was one of the deadliest days palestinians in the occupied westbank year. israeli forces rated a refugee camp in the city of jeanine, killing at least 9 people. the next day, a palestinian killed 7 israel near a synagogue and he's through so this comes just weeks after a new hard line is really government was warning with benjamin netanyahu. what the helm and with the far right figures occupy and key cabinet position. so what will this mean for palestinian that conversation next on this week, the going to be on upfront are deanna bluetooth room a la based lawyer and former legal advisor to the palestine liberation organization . an advocate she is
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a human rights attorney and associate professor at rutgers university. her latest book is titled justice for some law and the question of palestine. thank you both for joining me on upfront and i'm going to start with you. 2022 was the deadliest year for palestinians in the occupied west bank in nearly 2 decades. and now with the latest round of violence this year is on track to surpass that at january 26 or one of the highest daily death tolls. in years when israeli forces rated a refugee camp in jeanine killing, at least 9 people are the following day. a 21 year old palestinian killed 7 israelis near the synagogue in east jerusalem. you're on the ground in ramallah. what do you think is driving the latest wave of violence? because it can, it's been years of the united states and other countries around the world cobbling israel, telling israel that it can do whatever on that there are no guidelines and inside israeli society itself,
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if you said it's okay for them to be able to kill palestinian this is why we see not only the death toll rising, but we see the daily aggression against palestinians. these are numbers that are never reported. people are who are dying because of medical lack of medical treatment. people whose homes are being demolished, to land is being taken. this is part of the daily violence that palestinians live under because of israel. and it's because israel can and because there is nobody who is effectively stopping every other thing to israel, that there are red line. so this is why we see what we see. and i wouldn't be surprised if we surpassed that 2020 to figure very soon because of the fact that this is not only given they've been given the green light. but this is now also a brightening government that has also put palestinians literally in their cross here. i'm glad you mentioned this right wing government. nota benjamin netanyahu
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has returned as prime minister, even though he left off his facing a corruption scandal. and in fact, even today, he's still facing corruption charges. it would seem like netanyahu had a strategy of forging strategic alliances with the far, i mean, far right in order to come back into power. but since a new government took office in december, these really public has opposed many of his policies, such as the recent move to weaken the country supreme court and abroad. several of israel's closest allies have expressed concerns about the recent moves by far right figures appointed to the highest level positions in israeli government was a strategic on the part of nathan yahoo to empower the extreme right to regain its position. i think as goes with most politicians, the idea of self preservation, even if it means scorched earth for everyone else. i think what should be we should be most concerned about is that way that the international community is responding
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to netanyahu in a way that has rehabilitated him. in contrast to the moment where he was viewed very clearly as being an alignment with a suppressed racially supremacist movement and a neo liberal order and alignment with the trump administration. at which point we plainly understood him to be back. now what i also want to point out is as with many things concerning us committees, policy and israel, that there is much continuity as there is rupture in this situation. what we see in terms of the rise of the far right. and what is the most fascist government that is really has seen is not necessarily new because of the palestinians and eliminate tory policy regarding them. a very violent policy that marks them for removal in order to settle jewish zionists in their place. but in this case, what the israeli government has done in this iteration is to combine and marrying
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religious religiosity to this fascist regime. and that is what most israelis are objecting to. and that is the pathway that has religiosity towards it keeps doing that for you until you, me. sure. so historically, this fascist edge of zionism which has targeted palestinians for removal. in order to establish uncontested diamond settlers sovereignty was secular in nature so that it was nationalized judaism, directly or legally. so you can be a jewish national, distinct from being an railey citizen. in this situation, the far right government want to stablish a more robust christy that targets the l g b t q. community that wants to expand, it's holding a palestinians land within the length which of religion that wants to emulate right? the story. jewish biblical stories of the annihilation of, of palestinians in order to manifest that. and so the protest that we see amongst israelis is less to do with the concern for palestinians or how this is the height
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of crisis. but more of an internal concern of what this looks like for them. and i think that the escalation against palestinians is another political maneuver that is used to deflect attention away from. what is the domestic turmoil in order to focus on this constructed threat of the palestinian netanyahu appointed to mar, been viewed as minister of national security? now this is a guy who was convicted of inciting racism and for supporting an anti arab movement, outlawed as a terrorist. organization and last election, the religious zionism block, which in compet has been given as are you who did or jewish power party, a made significant gains. they won 14 seats in the connecticut. what does it say about where the netanyahu government is, when it's taking in extremis? leader of a fringe party and putting them in a que cabinet position. well,
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it's not just a mark there, it's also all of the individuals who are in that political party. actually there's a couple of the 3 parties that came together. another individual, the man named ma trish motor, which is the or a minister of finance he the person who has very proudly in his worth, you called himself a fascist hope. again, these are his words, not mine. and this is an individual who himself has been at the forefront of tried to push for the demolition of palestinian home in the wholesale ethnic cleansing of some palestinian towns in the west bank. and so you have him combined with is marvenna next year who himself again, who says that he is a follower of mine, who was at one point in time dressed up as ruth goldstein who's a mass murderer, a man who killed 29 palestinians as they were praying at the mosque in hebron. he dressed up at him for poorer and said that he was dressing up with him because he
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is his hero. wow. so it's the exactly. so that's the question. why would netanyahu go into government with these people? and it's because because nothing, yeah, with no difference. and i think we make a big mistake if we somehow just say that it's, these 3 individuals are that one political party that has been pushing for the ethnic cleansing of palestinians. well, what we know is that this has been israel policy since 948, and even before that. and it's just a question of whether they're more upfront about it or less up front about it and during the election campaign, then we're used to walk around and said and say, we need to show the palestinians who is the master of the house. and so this is where israelis are, people who voted for him. they either voted for him because they support his message or they voted for him because they wilfully ignore this message. in either
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case, the result for palestinians is gently nor does the new israeli government or the shift from one party to another, have any practical bearing on the lives of palestinian people. i'm thinking about something that anna said, what you said there is no left wing in israel. 1 and there hasn't been for a while. um if its lecount in charge of is the labor party in charge or if it's the minutes party, which is, which is a self described, leftist. do any of those formations change the facts on the ground for palestinians? i think it's right to ask that question because again, the international community is responding to this bar, right? government because of the crisis that it poses for israel and it's emerging and consolidating itself as a theocracy and therefore it's threatening a democracy. but there is no democracy when it defines itself as a jewish state, it cannot be a democracy when palestinian and citizens of the state are treated as the pillar. when all the palestinians in the west bank and gaza are denied. the right to vote
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is not a democracy under any situation for palestinians. and under all iterations, they are targeted for removal. they are killed with ease. they are already, they are racialized is always already a threat, a security threat. they are regarded as terrorists and can be killed and assume guilty until proven innocent, and the fact that they can be killed with this greater ease. and we've taken zionism to its most extreme logic and still seeing that the media discourse has not changed. and still seeing that the international community has not responded with sanctions on israel, but instead there have been rewards. there's a clear irony here that rather than be punished, they are somehow being rewarded and coddled, which is an extreme moment for palestinians to realize. well, at what point, how much money must they suffer in order to signal a clear shift in the international community?
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and as this extreme government demonstrates that line is not apparent and is not clear in the price that palestinians will pay, will continue to be far too high in moral and clearly illegal. d, on a given everything that we've discussed, everything the palestinians are facing with the new government, with the threats of violence with everything going on in the global community. what do you think is the next chapter for palestinians, and do you have hope? oh, it's hard to have hope and i'm a person who always does and the reason it's hard for me to have hope is because as much as i am hopeful and proud and happy that i see the boycott movement taking off and people really understanding what israel doing at the same time i live a different reality reality in which at any moment i, my family, my friends can be killed. i think back to last year of may
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of 2022 during not just during the year, but during, during may when a friend of mine journalist shooting auction with kill, she was going down and her yes, has probably been the most investigated death. i've ever seen, and yet here we are. we're coming up close on the one year anniversary shane's murder. and nobody has been helped to account. so while i am hopeful and i, i really am happy all of the work that people are doing around the low to push to hold israel to account at the same time and very acutely aware that the pressure that's being exerted on israel is not strong enough. and change is not happening
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quickly enough, and it's that fear that you live in both the fear that at any point in time, you can be killed or injured or whatever it is. but also the fear that it's going to be lasting for generations to come. that leaves me with a sense that we are, are we, where are we, how has this been allowed to fester for so long? why that is really use are going even shifting even further to the right. whereas if you look globally, they're shifting to the left, their progressive values. why is this the case? and i firmly believe it's because of the fact that israel has been allowed to get away with literally murder yet to no data cap. thank you so much for joining me on up front. the when the taliban reached control of ghana, stan, in august of 2021. they sought to reassure afghans in the international community
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that the rights of women and girls would be respected and that they would remain active members of afghan society. neither a year and a half later, however, the situation for women in the country is dire. the taliban have effectively barred women and girls from secondary schools and universities. they receive to their employment and they've even altogether band their presence in many public spaces. so what does this mean for the future of afghanistan? and is there any hope, insight for african women? wanted me to help answer that question is, della rush, former african ambassador to the united states and current director of princeton university, the afghan stan policy, lab, adela, thank you so much for joining us on upfront. you're currently in communication with women in the country. can you talk to a little bit about what life is like for african women at the moment? thank you for raising this really important and critical question for women off of the sun for all those who lived inside the country. and as he said, and the dire situation, it truly is, it's dark, it's gray,
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it's difficult. it's almost everybody is trying to grasp to something that gives them hope. and that hope is getting eliminated on a daily basis. and imagine a society where for woman education was the window of opportunity growth, space, freedom, prosperity. and that window is shut at this moment. and i want to put myself in the shoes over those women and those young girls switch for me personally. it wasn't too long ago in my life 25 years ago when i was forced, when i was enough going to son and one for the 1st time came to power. i was among one of those woman and those youngers where my window of hope was shut. and i couldn't think of a brighter day, and i want to to, when you say it was shut, you mean we do that access to public space to school? yes, exactly, exactly. there was no space for woman as public that we could go. we have to be
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always whenever we were tired, we had to have one or 4 male family member, and i come from a family when i have 3 younger brothers. so that was pretty hard and i also come from a family where education twiggy matter like to many of the families and growing up one morning waking up when your schools are closed and you're told to stay at home . i just simply couldn't process it, and i always tell people the story that there's a muslim a we have a prayer of times when we wake up in the middle of the night and we pray and refit that's. that's when your prayers will be accepted. the most and i remember myself waking up quite a few nights and praying and asking for medical for the schools to open up. right now we're seeing a very similar situation. right? taliban is effectively bad girls and women from attending secondary school also from attending university. yeah. that you are in conversation with people on the
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ground there. yeah, yeah. from most of the work that we're doing, you've got some policy love, an important element for workers to be engaged with people who are inside the country with woman inside the country. because i always say, regardless of how much we try to make sure that we could reflect what life for them is, but it's extremely important to have their true voice. and through those conversations, whenever we have had with a woman in the country. as i mentioned earlier, the element of hope is dying. it's for especially for those women who are the bread winner for their households. when they are asked not to go to work anymore for those young girls where as i said school was with they could see freedom in future. and it's not there anymore for those young girls who are going to the university and, and they just were in last year of their university as and just getting in touch
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with them and hearing their stories that they don't know when next time they can go back to the university that's painful. how much of that dissipating hope is connected to the fact that there was a promise that one would have x and in that it wouldn't be like both in one. 0, and now it's shifted very quickly. is that a big part of this as well? the kind of pivot is it is, but um, frankly speaking with a lot of africans even then if you would have spoken, especially with woman. i think there was a very element. there was a that it was an element of pragmatism and realism because, oh, we had not forgotten a win for the 1st time. tal upon war and power. and they have been de schools and woman from public spaces and working outside. so there was somehow that element of nightmare, everybody was waiting, it will arrive and, and they will go in that direction. it was just a matter of time. i think there was that element of hope still hoping that maybe
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they won't, but they did that. so it's now expecting that they may ever change their mind a thing that probably may not happen because just from the sake of who they are and how, what the believe and what they have been saying. even we, even initially when they talked about girls school, if we look at every formal statement of the time that came out, not individual positions that some of the members had expressed. but the formal statements, as, as, as, as a group that was released all the time. in each single statement, their language was the same, it had not changed. they said they will allow girls to go to school based on islam . mac showy and even now when they have been to school, they have not said that woman are not allowed to go to school. they say a woman or not. can not go to school for the time being until they prepare the
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right space for them. and we know as of the pretext, the safety yes i or security, not really. i think for them when you go with the level of deeper conversation they, they assume to create a more islamic environment for them at school. and which for us, as we know, that's a way for them to say, no, we're not going to open up schools because they did the exact same thing. 25 years ago. they used the same language that they are using today. one of the things we're seeing now is resistance. we see women taking to the streets in protest. we see men, even with the male students, were walking out of their final exams at university. many other sort of extra development is assign, the things won't go back to the 90 things. we're moving in a different direction or at least people will stand for it. look, that's exactly for money off. i hope s it is the people of it is the
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society, the society that believes in and prosperity in education and wisdom and knowledge. and that comes bought from men and woman and specially the last 20 years, the level of investment, the level of education that had change in of conason. the growth that has happened it's, it's people are there, people have not left if they still live in afghanistan and even now a lot of families are trying to find ways. we had a conversation last night with my brothers and, and it was exactly around the education ah area that how each single family inside the country are still trying and knocking every single door to find a way for their daughters to go and study. and that comes to the brothers as well. and there was a sign, as you saw with our university students, and angela bought an kandahar in cobble as well when they walked away. when the regime said that woman cannot take or cannot come to take,
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the examine cannot come to the classroom. that was their way of revolt. and to these woman's demonstration on the street too, i always say that it requires courage. that requires bravery, that the requires on ability and strength to be still able to come and say no to, to an authority that doesn't believe in, in education of woman and, and woman are not giving up. the society is not giving up for you got, you know, when you think about what would the next year or 2 would you like would which reporters can understand ah, look on the forecast. especially if we start with the parliament i, i don't think so. we should expect any that they may change their mind and to start to make the right decision. ah, there is no prediction. those know even
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a statistics probability that why we should even put our thinking in that direction than the oil change. they're thinking. so it's almost like buckle up and prepare for the worse and in terms of the over all environment. um it's, it's hard, it's very difficult. i think there are days i said, bargain. i'm trying to find an element of hope for myself to move forward. and it's very, very difficult, but then i look into very small stories, the stories of individuals who are inside the country, and i know some of them when some of them were my own cousin who ran home school right now. young girls of came on to run home schools and teach there on neighborhood kids at youngers. and to me, say, look, that element of resistance within afghans is still there. and we will continue to have that resist. and in order to make life awe bearable and accept
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feasible in a way, thus the that's that utilize what we have in front of us. but i think my takeaway is, it's almost buckling up for difficulties, but we should not on disengage with african people. i have to be very clear, i think engaging with taliban is a different argument and i'm very is actually the people people that makes sense or de la ross, thanks so much for joining us. pleasure. thank everyone. that is our show up. fact we'll be back. ah ah
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