on an eastern areas of turkey, but for greece, have a look at the 3 day in athens. lots of sunshine through to saturday. ah. african stories from african perspective, short documentary from african filmmakers from ivory coast. just you last year from school for the bus, for, for a former student listing form ad, south africa. tina i would change and it showed me that i'm actually tracking and 5 africa direct on al jazeera days after colorful earthquake had to kia and syria. the death toll continues to rise. rescue crews are finding fuel survivors under the rubble, but there is still what impact there is this disaster having on survivors and

emergency workers there on the ground. this is inside story. ah hi there and welcome to the program. i miss darcy. hey, now these earthquakes this month were amongst the most powerful, ever recorded into kia tens of thousands of people killed in that country and neighboring syria. many more injured. the rescue phase is now coming to an end, but the focus shifting to providing shelter, food and schooling. yet rescue teams continue to work non stop to find survivors trapped in the dark without food or water, and freezing temperatures. despite the odds there, there are some incredible stories of survival. in the city of carmel mares, one woman was rescued from a building on wednesday after being trapped for 9 days. on tuesday,

9 survivors were rescued from under the ruins in the province of a demon, including a 77 year old woman. and income on my dash to 2 brothers were pulled from a collapsed building. they say they had to fight for gulps of air for days to stay alive. and the neighboring syria, a newborn baby was found alive, day after those quakes had. her mother apparently gave birth while buried under the remains of a 5 story building in jan doris. the child was found with the umbilical cord still connected to her mother. whose pastry? ah. oh, let's now bring in our guests from jan doris in syria is durham allison. he's an aide worker and also unfortunately lost his uncle and 7 family members in these f quakes from london, we have known that balance. he is a psychotherapist who treats people suffering trauma and from a demon into kia is,

was mustafah. he's the executive director of the syrian emergency task force, a warm welcome to you all, and i cannot thank you enough for sparing the time to join us here on our era. i know it's an incredibly busy time for all of you. now we've been hearing about some really, really incredible rescues that have taken place over the last few days that the last one was baby i engine derose. so let me start with you jerome. how are you doing? well, thank you. the 3rd day of their think me and my organization. one of the best, the border from people, words in there are there. yeah. we are looking what the weight and the pounds around our brand because it was one of the most impacted areas that was there. think i, i say like we leave like your hours verb or day,

day and night. but tony with our time to be bothered with all our best to do so. and so we are trying to help but repeal or always like disabled we are having give betty human resource too. but the need is like any, tremendous and you feel like you're. busy enable or disable that helped me well, this is the thing that actually make the nervous and the like that every one impacted by it. the last so we liked it and it's like really over in the drama. that sounds incredibly, incredibly difficult. and you have my condolences as well, i'm very sorry, it was hard about your family to how are you personally doing? you've spoken there about some of the, the big challenges that everyone is facing. how you personally coping right now. the 1st hours of their quick approaches my family back and then i put my wife and

my kids near my brother house in the paper they, they said and then they moved to and then i moved all the way here in syria to help . but i don't know, you need to like within your name, i don't feel what to be suppressed, but they should be like every direction day, like they change the crack may and all of the then and everyone in morning their beloved one. like if it's more or less every direction day, it's like a calamity. everyone is like working with out, logically observing or be able to observe what have been. so people are like literally out of their mind unconscious. that's what we are in because now you want to understand the show. and after methods, of course, was your intake here?

well, obviously a huge number of people will say, grappling with some of the same shock that we're hearing about that from jonah. you'll, i believe your organization is involved with distributing aid at the moment, how the communities that you will meeting how people they're holding out. well, people are amazing re lee resilience 1st of all because. ready you know what they've gone through. i. ready i can't imagine, you know, i'm just. ready doing it the. ready way, you know, the location, those and got the and that i was yesterday and there with just 0. dana holder and other western journalists in today. i mean, idea, i'm on and i just just came here from touring, the city center body and it looked like they are in literally a war zone. they get on through, you know, multiple bombardments across the city, entire street. everything is down and i spend some time both in syria with the

victims of earthquake that were being treated at the hospital as well as the folks that are already entirely too late. and they. ready are the ones in syria are wondering where the world, and they're wondering why the wide open border crossing with paved road wide open, just like you're driving in london or don't. our washington dc, the only line of cars going into syria? our ambulance is not ambulances that are going to help people there, everyone to carry refugee, but a lot. ready lived in searcy and are now going back to be buried in their homeland . but everyone i spoke with is stronger than, than anyone i know. and in the world, especially the syrians would suffer 12 years of the worst crimes of the 21st century at the hands of russia in iran, and now dealing with an earthquake, where russia and at that continued to block cross border aid from the north, which is you kilometers from places. ready legendary,

where your jan i is and where i was yesterday. i have spoken about rebellion is that anger? people really frustrated about what's happened? absolutely, i mean if there is a job, a big fire, let's say in, in, in a city in europe or the united states, you'll see ambulances, and you'll see, you know, a police and you'll see cars and things like that. you don't see anything on the borders like there's no aid coming in and people are angry because not only have they've been left alone to be bombarded whether it's chemical weapons or barrel bombs, and all of that by us rush and iran. they are now left alone by the international committee and the united nations. and people are really, really angry over the fact that the, you end up asking permission of basher acid, good blocks, aid and bombs, these people in order to bring an aid from the, from turkey. the fact is, i don't know in the history of the united nations that

a major historic of historic proportions earthquake that so devastating that 9 days a week in into it. the united nations has said nothing. so people are rightfully angry because the world continues to abandon them 12 years on from, from the beginning of their evolution. no, let me bring your in hand because we've had a number of very, very powerful wides shock. anger resilience to that was a numbness. presumably none of this is coming as a surprise to you. no, no, and the numb ingle, the disassociated state, is a very typical initial trauma response. people have not experience trauma and maybe they experience the death of a loved one. and often, when you experience the death of a loved one, you may get into a novel dang state to miss thing. simply because it's not possible to process an experience the emotions. and also because there are things to be done and your 1st

guest described that. this does a lot of work to be done in terms of trying to save lives, initially find survivors and bang. so what's needed to maintain life in the living and you said in your interruption, getting schools up and running and i can't pull that is children. so there literally isn't tying for that stuff there is there's a survival space may that people go into and then will be able to, failing. of course, to be ang, there will be all sorts of very strong emotions but, but that's sort of numbing, unreal. pennsylvania, i can't process, it says it's very familiar and people will come through that and then begin to process the emotional content of a things which is pretty however, i respect what they're going to be processing in terms of the loss of the so many

losses coming on and, and your 2nd guess point today is that there's been ongoing losses and syria. so this campaign goes on and on and on and becomes quite terrific. one more point. so it say, i think you'll get a positive gentleman, but i didn't. your names didn't go into my brain. that's the way my brain is. unfortunately, i'm going to refer to this gas that the 1st i was talking about as a front line. fast re is also having to deal with being in the event. and again, the very typical, the 1st responders also have their own losses and expenses, their own concerns, back family, getting them to safety. and then has to deal with the fact that infrastructure has stopped existing. it's gone. the sorts of things that you would rely on, the ambulances, the roads that just don't exist anymore,

they're not there. and so the sort of things that you might be trained to have in place so that you can help people and save people have just disappeared. and then your last as a professional with this sort of a sense of overwhelm that you can't do what you know you should be doing and all of that sort of balance and campaigns and it's, it's awful for people on the ground. the dreadful, you just said the word impotence there, and that goes back to something that trauma was talking about. a sense of helplessness, almost jama, especially this many days on after the quakes. can you tell us a little bit? i can see the rebel that around you. how people are dealing now with such. and matthew, are people still looking for people? is there still hope? if you allow me, i would change my 10 minute position to so the where i'm standing next with these even though problems in the middle, one of the major speak, then this,

this done is to be only 80000 people ation before the war. but now over a 110000, you can imagine how many i already have been visiting here. unfortunately, even to approvals behind me as the theme are, there are still corpses and saved buddies inside that white helmet and other rescue their team trying to help. but the 1st, it was no good only shovel then small hammers that people tried to save people from under tons of pain and damage the structure and mental rather than it brought. so you can see the scale of, of the damage that already you will have suffered from black of shelter placement and being stiff, the northwest, the feed. in a small geography though, we work as we were always hoping for making 0100 for people to have a decent shelter or dignified. want to live in. but now the best of the,

not only the crumbled house did, there are a lot of houses that are inhabitable, if the be, be behind me like street of the don't have, like being entirely right out of them up. so the pricing is really great. and unfortunately, the shelter of practices and other needs, some of the people who are going to longer die. so unfortunately, we feel that it's better because students, again, syria, people let down disappointed by the why do you really we was, i met today. i didn't get you from you and in turn, you are responsible for the project. the disability doesn't make anything. we understand the old bureaucracy working in we understand the words on tv is not any more, unfortunately on the front line or front pages of the news because it's not a priority to the international community. but we, you, we have your main feeling. you haven't humanity. and moral obligation for all

countries to come and help these people will be alone in the winter, in the cold. you know, country. i mean, like big country that's ruined here and there to come and help you in dec have came to turkey, which is the assessment chemically, but they never visited you. and there is a lot of that all the couple of dozen of people who are managing the tester, that even countries cannot even in turkey, there was over 80 or 70 countries that are escaped with me as well. but we have cartoon in july, hey, i want to ask, was a little about how slow the aid response has been as well, because you spoke about the anger that you were seeing from people, especially across the board in syria. i want to understand is that compounding the

trauma that people have already had to live through not just compounding the trauma of people have are living through it is killing them. the lack of aid, the slowness of aid, and the lack of aid is killing people. the fact is people screamed the 1st day, they cried and weep under rubble yelling for their loved ones. ready just outside, waiting for their turn at a bulldozer or next debated art is not nobody sent heavy machinery to syria. 3rd day, 4th day, 5th day, 6 day until you hear the whimpering of your own family members and loved ones underneath the rebel die out. and you know, now that they're dead when you're just scrambling, whether it's domestic using several than hammers or whatever you can in helplessly, you know, not getting anywhere or waiting for your turn on. we have a school for orphans. and in northern syria called the wisdom house supported by american communities. and 2 of our former students, you know,

alongside their extended family were engine derek. they all died, but their relative was outside waiting. ready ready their turn at a, at a bulldozer diaper by the time that happened, all 9 and family members were brought out dead. so the slowness of ages is, jaeger is killing people. and in the fact that the, you and they, they must, they, they nodded nations is believed that bestial as that is the secretary general. they've given full sovereignty to him and they're asking for his permission to open border points that he doesn't control physically in reality. and that further legitimizes him in, he waited a week, he waited more than a week. he'd waited for everyone to die. to then say, maybe you can use another border crossing for 3 months. this is a shame on the legacy of the united nations. and it's a shame on the legacy of european in western and frankly, even arab countries that have sent plains to damascus, a regime known to steal aid that hadn't even

a tiny percentage of that. 8 to 2 regime held areas that, that very at some of the earthquake. but the, but the places in here that were the hardest hit ever received. nothing. the, the a did not just traumatizing them. it's literally murdering them. no, i want to bring you in here again because we're hearing about the trauma and also the physical challenges that people are having to live through right now. obviously that there's just not a lot of places for people to sleep. not a lot of food for people to ease. how does this moment the, how people deal with the aftermath? how does that contribute to how people are going to deal with processing all of what's happened going forward? it's usually disruptive when there's a number of things that will take place. i mean, i guess it's scribing sick. currently, some of the issues the survivors will be left with and the think survivors guilt for example, which is really, really difficult thing. why did i survive and my family didn't have issues. bank

people trying that back and listening and failing to rescue their loved ones and then and they will be left with that memory for the rest of their life. and they will be hearing those voices going on and on again and, and be writing themselves for not doing better at it's true, it's, well that needs to be jewels, but that doesn't help you when you are an individual who's listened to your child. dying and rebel, it doesn't help political context. so we need to think about the individual as well . and the lack of a list because one of a, one of the things that's most helpful initially in terms of helping people cope with huge events like this disastrous event like this. and i've worked with people, i mean what lot with false migrant and you can't keep repeating through natural disaster. well, it was,

et cetera. and i'm so think about trying to get back to some ambulance of no manatee as quickly as possible, which is no, you can't get ignoble in this situation. but what you can do is get to living a lie for a team so that people are getting up looking after that case. it might be in time to initially and then in some other accommodation later on, you want that process to start as soon as possible. schools to be money soon as possible. again, that might be, makes it time to start wave. they go back to. but if you haven't got that basic level of infrastructure to begin basic transition for the survivors to get back to life and get some st installed. they're moving beyond the immediate threat in some sense of safety, but to real problems, further down the line for those people in terms of back to be resilient, where they do so. and yes, there's a lot of resilience going on. just means they strengthen your connection to the

human beings, but that will break unless we get in there and provide the basic resources to people so that they can begin to process when i want to go back to joe london, dairy, because i'm seeing so much resilience from the community there, so many people who lost their own family members like yourself and your trying to help other people in your community. look, let me ask you a personal question. if that's all right drama, because i, i'm curious about what you personally would like to see. we've talked about infrastructure schools, shelter, all of that. but in terms of your writing support, in terms of feeling like you're being listened to, feeling like your family is going to be supported in the future. what are you looking for? what would you like? the international community have deserted the people or years that have been the

normal barrel that assad regina was born, being that people and people run away for safety. it's all on the face that they have labored. and that was the last thing they needed. great. that destroyed being one person or energy that that was left for the people and now we are over consume . so they need is really big. you will need in the 1st and you have a proper shelter, a decent one houses or 3 fabricated containers or any kind of decent dignity just they're not the thing that doesn't protect any any when they're in summer or like the winter at the same time. people need to have some normalization of life when we speak about resilience, evil already there. save being the property of the market, the going on the, the thing you really shaking there is a lot of upside. does the lack of stability,

like, like always, you know, you are always treated by any kind of get a stroke with that. not sure what human means. unfortunately, we are out that they habituated to an habitual that we are the up normal, is becoming normal to this patient ever did any living. this must have still to national community countries and all actors and players should have, should accountable and have their own responsibility towards the people that are hundreds of thousands of people across the 40 by 60 kilometer and in the balloon have over 4500000 people living in there, of a above 70 percent of the stipulation are already id, be who some of them we have met through our committee chair to work for the 12 time together. they are leaving this place. this is not the life that didn't preserve so

really like she feel always being deserted and and the as being polar side. so we should be un, another to, i'd like to go to the right place the right people and really provide the right. tell me it's a place even though you're providing thousands of things that you're durable to ways in pollution, it's not a permanent one. then like next summer we'll have some can't being bothered in the winter to some other business growing people. i then again will be moving, this is not what, what we need. we need like more kind of permanent solution. love to show her. let me ask because i know you've been dealing with them as well. yes, i just wanted to jump in as he was speaking and saying 1st of all he's absolutely right. like we need a lot of help right now, but this to recover from. ready it's, it's going to be months if not years. and the fact is that the united nations

remains the old into the asset region. despite the fact that, according to legal experts, including ambassador steven rappe and others, you don't need a security council resolution to have that cross border aid from from the north. so either there is a mechanism outside of the united nations that utilizes the multiple, at least for probably more border crossings that are wide open from the north to the hardest hit areas. or the united nations settled the cross border question to day and indefinitely. but the 6 months, one border, or 3 months, one quarter things that were begging from death regime. not only are they coming at concessions to the us that we deem it's legitimizing the war criminal that initially displays these 5000000 people to the northwest. i was injured, there's just a few hours ago, people will from pumps and hama, and aleppo. you know, it's hard to even figure out that the numbers of tara, my horrible because people are from all over the place. yes. so the fact is there

needs to be cross border aid from the north in the world need just needs to show up the fact that the only car is going to syria are ambulances of that people is unacceptable. whereas i understand, i do also not want to forget about what's happening on the other side of the board . i intake here because this is a hugely profoundly traumatic event for millions of people on both sides of that border. and i'm wondering whether with the aid roll out that he was saying is psycho social aspects of this being even discussed because not to people are going to be processing a huge amount of trauma for many years to come. is that being discussed? all those provisions being made in terms of trying to help people right now and going forward though i, i've been driving around r d m an all day to day since the morning. it really looks like it's like a aftermath of, of, of, of, of a major war zone. um, you use the insane destruction. you see, you know, i mean i, i was one thing that caught me is all these, you know,

sometimes they'll be clots on the wall in, in, in their, in their still stuck at like 4 20 am, you know, would, whenever the clock stopped working after the whole house fell down, i went into some of the tents, he. ready nadia man and and it was sitting down with. ready member. ready the families and each one had lost so many people, people that were rich in the morning became poor and homeless in a matter of, of minutes. and that is just across the board in at right now i, you know, the efforts have been focused on getting them intense, providing them aid, clearing up some roads to try to get to the body of the, who knows the countless that remained there. but you know psycho social i, i haven't seen some of that support right away. i hope that that happens. like that happens with day of international community that needs to come and support turkey as it's now trying to help both its own people that have gone through a disastrous catastrophe and the syrians right across their border. and the mini refugees that are there. but the, the need is so great, even in turkey,

that there is, i don't know if people have gone to the stage of thinking of the need for this, you know, therapy that the trauma that people have gone through the cycle. so, you know, the social support that they desperately and emotional support they desperately need. i haven't seen that yet. i, you know, the gentleman from la, you get from london was mentioning, i see a lot of people that are in that numb state as well. you know, the, the guy, you know, in, in every once in a while, then not a breakdown of them in describing the problem. indeed. and so many people are really just trying to get by day to day as we were hearing from some time there to i'm afraid we'll have to leave our discussion there for now and i'm going to let you all get back to the very important went you are doing, i can't thank you enough for joining us here on al jazeera and i really want to wish you all the best for all the work that you are doing. and also with your family is jayma. again, we're very, very sorry for your loss and, and you have all of our thoughts and best wishes. well, thank you to,

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