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officials in the parents of refuse to open up their banks to offer services to them, to exchange their choruses. now, over the last few months, one boost currency swap. they came into the frighten, we've seen a lot of disruption to the economy. the economy in nigeria is dependent on the informal sector, 60 to 65 percent of the economy is run by this particular sector, and this is a country, while 40 percent of the population is and bank. in fact, neither is one of the top 5. i'm bankers in the world with large populations, not having access to financial services, financial services, offered by the banks. now the news is such that only been all $209.00 and note is legal, tender. the $501000.00 matter note will no longer be accepted. i'll step out the sentence by officers across the country. i'm even a bad, any customer taking huge amount of money to that bank, to swap for the new currencies. we'll have to explain how we've got the money in the prosecutors.
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ah, the main stories are following the salad. the united nations is appeal for a $1000000000.00 to cover immediate monetary needs and takia following last week's earthquake is oscar. thousands of survivors living in makeshift camps with limited basic facilities and this is raising phase of public health, emergency or disease. breaking out. this is on top of a 400000000 dollar appeal for quite affected regions in syria, where the relief effort is being severely disrupted by the politics and the country are so said has been meeting survivors in the northern searing town of gender as sandy drop off the bid to help them to survive this winter, you can see that there are thousands and thousands of people that they have lost their houses or relative. they're big ones. now they're here waiting for aid for
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food, food, warm clothes, for heaters and for the medicines. so it has been been that they were waiting for, this is their 3rd, they're angry and they say the field of the international community has forgotten them. or more than 42000 people and now known to have died. but there are still some survival stories with several people found alive on wednesday and got him on mad ash. a 17 year old girl was rescued after 10 days underneath the rubble. in are the headlines this hour, the head of the russian state back wagner. mercenary group is blaming the military for slow gains in ukraine. he added, it could take months to capture an eastern town. that's been the focus of its attack since late february give as committed vast resources to hold the mining area of backward which is now surrounded, south ground. but it's still in control of most of the town. many of it's $70000.00 residents, a flat the fighting. it was president joe biden says it free identified ariel
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objects shot down by the fighter jets are probably benign and that there has not been a sudden increase in objects in the sky. he said that they were likely tied to private companies or search institutions. they would down the following, the they were down following the decision to bring down a chinese surveillance balloon just the week before. as the latest on that the stream is coming out next. good money into african good and exclusive owners investigation. coming soon. under cover reporting with exclusive stories explosive results, al jazeera investigations with welcome to the stream amendments habit dean. it's been 10 days since earthquakes
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caused catastrophic damage and northwest syria, leaving thousands dead and millions displaced homes. hospitals and roads have been destroyed, and families are grieving, loved ones, while trying to survive the aftermath themselves. today we ask, why aren't syrians getting the help they need and what can be done about it? let's start today's conversation with the video comments sent to us from xena at him. i believe the main reason for not catching that very much needed aids into north and syria is not the current war situation, nor the status of the border. it is mainly the lack of will interest by them or national community to help the syrians who are living inside. i think the whole words has got used to syrians being killed for that. not to be a big and uncertainty that they're across see of the you and that doesn't take into consideration that the urgency of such a crisis. and if there was a,
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we'll have the equipment would have been passed through turkish border into north syria, 1000 and stuff. life could have been shaved, but that that will help them. joining us to discuss from chicago doctors that had a lu president of med global in amsterdam said, well, cost him, member of the emergency support team from doctors without borders. and with us from london, him to command the director of the syria conflict research program at the london school of economics. and of course, we want you to join the conversation as always. so be sure to share your thoughts and questions with us on youtube. docker doctor's i had, i should say, can we start just by laying out the scale, the sheer scale of this protracted conflict and crisis? thank you for having me. as everyone knows, probably everyone knows that syria has been going through a very painful civil war for the past 12 years. this area that was impacted mostly
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by the earthquake and northwest of syria has 4 point. 2000000 people have of them are displaced from other regions in syria, that the number of guns were infected by their wig is close to 9000000, including 3500000 syrian refugees will live and southern turkey. many of them have been killed because of the earthquake, and you have an area that was disconnected from the outside ward for the past 10 years or, or so, has been bomb frequently by russia and does either g. hospitals have been bomb. so hospitals are built into basements or field hospitals. they don't have enough infrastructures for cleaning of the water electricity spares. and now you have this large back to earth wake the area, and celia has not been hit with another week. and this magnet you 4 foot magnitude for the past 200 years. so you have shortage of medical supplies. you have shortage own pence. you have now more than 50000 families will are displayed suddenly. the
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weather is very cold. and then you have the impact of the earthquake that will last for a few years from now. in addition, on top of that, the lack of tristan ventura community that they now have mentioned in the video. yeah, no, i appreciate you sending it up for us there and you know, sharon, when we talk about the lack of will the lack of interest obviously that factors in but there's also the logistics. i mean it took a 192 hours. that's 8 full days for the 1st un convoy to enter through babel how i mean many would see this as a obvious and blatant failure of, of the syrian people in terms of bringing them aid. where do you put the main barriers and what concerns you most sherwin a say it's actually the problem is that this area has been through 12 years of conflict that destroyed the health system that need to have system quite weak. and because of the consequences of the quick that may actually,
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the remaining has facilities are under unbearable pressure to treat this huge or massive amounts of patients coming to the city. as you said, indeed the humanitarian access, reaching an office city, i was very late. actually the city and population through the, through the east of tribes in east euphrates managed to send much more trucks of 8 and relief than that. you in huntington, national position managed to do during the last 8 days, which is mainly because of the policy of one committee and access that is managed through the security council mechanism. and also the vulnerable and weak humanitarian situation before this conflict for us, us and assess dr with our borders. we managed actually to intervene a bit quick and fast at the beginning with what we have in every project. we are
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operating like a small stop. what we call emergency preparedness. yeah, we used this mission, emergency preparedness talk as much as we could. and in a way, to, to deal with the 1st phase of the mass casualty plans that we were arranging that, that time. and you know, we talk about the different stages, obviously in the immediate aftermath of any disaster that that's when 8 is needed the most. because then the problem problems as we've seen happen in syria can start to be compounding, right? we've seen color already there and i want to ask you with all that in mind that im, i don't want to talk about the blame game per se, but, but where do you put the blame in terms of how to prevent this from continuing to happen? it seems like syrians have been very vocal online, and the arab community is online responding to that in the absence of real organisation amongst governments or the syrian government. sure, i think the blame is on the lack of political solution. we shouldn't have been in
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this situation the 1st place. i think we are the, the, the because there was no political solution. we ended up with syria divided to 3 different parts. and in addition to. busy all my colleagues have mentioned about the obstacles, the logistics, the indifference. i would like also to talk about different sets of reasons in northwest of syria. i think the biggest issue is that there is no state and what it became clear from the response of the international community that all the emergency international response is prepared. the designs around working with the state of the, at the receiving end, they come out, respond to govern spaces or spaces govern with the rebel governance. so they want to state the decision maker on the other side to give access insurance, etc, etc. and that is not there. the 2nd thing also is the presence of service
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organization in this area, which is why so many donors already withdrew from this area of their support to pure minimum him at the support. so they're already out of the area, not wanting to access it. i'm also accessing northwest, sadly hostage to g, a 6 to decision from different states including khaki, which was delaying some of the divisions to access. right. the country in the government control. yeah, there's a different problem there, there is a state, but it's kind of english that state and it's come from the rest of the world. so all the countries in the national committee want to access, they have to really start the communication. what's happening and, and doctors, i look like you want to jump in, go ahead. yes, i mean i agree with the many points that the team has mentioned, but people imagine that syria is one country, but it's divided 2 for parts. each one of them has their governing body. this area and north west of syria is under the control of variables. it's accessed only
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through turkey through one border crossing before this disaster. and now there is 3 border crossing. so it's an open air prison that has been softening for the past 12 years because of the war because of the seas from that side regime, the people inside this area and see the up there. see that saw the regime and rush of course, and iran as their enemies. so they will not accept any assistance even if it's offered from that other gene. it's like you're giving food then, and assistance and giving and telling them give it to the ukrainian. so this is how the salience in that area perceived that sandra gene, it's been bombing them, non stop for the past that while years. and clearly there is lack of political will and ventilation committee. turkey has been very helpful before the crisis, directing all 8 across the border. but gilkey has to deal with that is that its own . you have more than 20000000 turkish citizens who have been affected by this area in southern turkey. many of the roads leading to the border crossing have been destroyed. so what is need really is to live celia as
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a priority to the international community. and, you know, and they, like i said, they were saying we cannot sympathize with celia because it's a civil war. not now. you have an end way. now you can sympathize easily. right. and i wish we could, you know, somehow extricate the politics out of this. and actually i have facilitate the emergency aid they need, but also the more lasting aid with that in mind. and with everything you just outlined their doctors. i had, i want to share with you some thoughts that were echoed by, by missouri during that a from she's the senior program development officer for the white helmets who are kind of accusing by saddle. i said specifically of manipulating this disaster ah, for his needs take a listen. but i saw the shop block to me and manipulated the international community and put a pressure on this area because it's, it's position area and,
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and they see the community that allows for i dictator and for the to block this 8 even even when we have not for a disaster. so this is like a clear bullet allies ations and we have seen the 8 international aid guys depends on the victims, identity not depends on the needs. then i want to draw your attention to my computer screen. this is a post on instagram from kim. it's her article in the financial times in it. she says that, but i said, is, you know, rehabilitating himself with the international community while posing for pictures in a disaster zone with his wife. she goes on to talk about, you know, sort of how you know, so many people feel as though as be heard in the top that syrians have been forgotten. there's a lack of political will. and that's allowing people to sort of exploit this
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disaster with that in mind. i mean, where should our attention be in terms of tangibly trying to bring the humanitarian aid that's needed? i think it should be based on the people on the needs, like my friend was not just saying, you know, the, it has to be needs based not politicians based. i think the actors in each area have been trying to exploit the situation politically, including a july me, the head of the interim government and in the, the syrian regime. but the focus has to be on the people that they have to be given priority. and on the incredible tsunami of a society we've seen, i mean this is like, we just didn't imagine that this, why everything, 12 years on the students of the site, the has this energy, this power, i mean, they just rose from under the ashes. they were acting everywhere in every area across all conflict lines. the attention has to be them. they need to be supported . they need to be the, the new carrier of off kind of new syria,
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the monitors of any help at the, the implementers of any assistance. so i think that's where we need to focus and we should ignore all the so petitions trying to exploit the situation to their on ends. now i see all 3 of you nodding, then go ahead, go ahead. doctors are, again, my agree with the, with the dream on this issue, i mean, as an organization that working in the humanitarian a sphere not only in syria, but in ukraine in bangladesh, in yemen and sudan. we deal with situations that many entity want to politicize. the reason i mean, we know that human again, it was weaponized by that regime when they seized good times of a danny and medea and we had starvation in these areas. we had patients with severe mental attrition, few years ago, and cbs did not forget this. so, but as a humanitarian, we want to make sure that the aid reaches the people that need based on the
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priorities. so we partner with local community, we ask them, what are the priorities right now? the priorities are food and medicine and shelter. and next few weeks from now, we're going to be wash, should be clean water because the lean water that water sources have been contaminated with sewage and we had clear outbreak just a few weeks from away from now. we still have this weather outbreak. so we expect this to get worse, social and fire, you know, mental health support, especially for the children and the victims. while right now, without homes in this area. so mental health should be a priority. so to us the priorities of the local community, our, our priorities regardless, who are the actors who are trying to minute, manipulate the most certainly incorrectly go ahead germans. ok. thank you very much . actually. i totally agree with those on it and with everything they said, i want to come back to the point of the mental health mental it is one of the biggest need actually started my work in thinking that they didn't feel as a translator. for psychologist, i was talking to a lot of people who been through different stage of trauma,
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the last 12 years. this in like unbearable situation, led to a miserable humanitarian situation for the people leaving all control areas. i mean, let's not forget that. so us, as i say we are trying to be in every place we can be. we have presence in the city are we are working in the whole camping on a 2nd. iraq are in co, bonnie, at the same time we are working in the opposition control area with in the area under control of the senior national army. so we are in has us in different districts available. we are in a little countryside, we are in it live in the area under control of your national army, 80 under control. yeah, the salvation government. what, why i brought all of this. i brought one of us because that show how that then fragmented is a see a situation where you, besides the remote of the proxy world that's going on in the country for us. we are trying to, you know, like one of the main reasons actually for this situation to dish this degree before
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the earthquake. i mean, it's 12 years of quick. actually. it's not only an earthquake that made this tuition horrible. it's a continuous humanitarian disaster that is going on. but before that there was fatigue media. yeah. fortunately, a lot of media platforms and also a lot of people when they didn't want to hear what i want to. yeah. we need take this opportunity. i had. yeah. not the, the very important point about mental health. i think now we have like, almost everyone who went through this work is having post traumatic stress disorder . and we start to think the symptoms. people in social media are talking about living the earthquake again. and again, having all the classic symptoms of p t c. and the thing is pizza is the, is not even talked about before. people don't even know about that. never heard about that. they don't know what's going that what they're going through is actually syndrome. it has symptoms and there are ways to kind of handle it. so
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we need to raise awareness about to have content in our big to spread or about p t is the to help because there are no one, no organization would be able to respond on its own to this massive need. people need to be to learn how to help themselves and how to help their relatives and friends and children. i mean, children also are very vulnerable to really, i mean, the shock they went through it will have live life lasting impacts will always stay there. to the point you are saying, actually i'm in touch with my family, which is inside syria. i help my mother, my brother, my sister, my sister has to be different boys 4 year old and 6 year old. i mean, my nephews are not that refusing to keep in the rooms. there are every night think mom, the house would be shaking my mom until yesterday. we managed to let her go to her house even though the house. luckily there are some cracks, but it's according to the people who came, i look at it, it's quite safe. but she's feeling that every day that the ground shaking,
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shaking under her, all of the facts that there is no hope that the situation really and everybody is concerned. afraid that to model reward, we forget again what happened in syria, this as quick as you 40. i don't like oldest people taking a look at of course the media and everybody's interested now would lose that interest in, in 3 months. and then we will come back to the previous situation, we should do our best route to end up in the us to i want to share with you and bring in a voice all the way from australia. this was a video comment sent to us by aaron of dyke, a humanitarian engineer with experience doing this kind of important work after disastrous take a listen. humanitarian organizations are, are struggling to access these areas. so i just, this past weekend, there was so only one border crossing from turkey in to syria. so with the syrian government now permitting additional border crossings for aid to reach affected communities and opposition held areas. but this is still challenging for those
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organizations. so really, the key to, to this response moving forward will be supporting local organizations such as the, the syrian red crescent, the syrian civil defense force, the white helmets. and we've really seen these organizations be instrumental over the last decade of conflict in syria. doctors i had obviously those organizations are instrumental but in such a fractured state, where there is no queer authority, are they really able to operate, especially when the world's focus is not on them as it is after this earthquake? i can say proudly as sir, so med global. my organization i've been in syria north was a part of syria for the past 12 years. are providing support to health care system to hospitals to clinic. so we started mobile clinic just the one day after the earthquake to provide health care to the people who are now without shelter. our hospitals have been working nonstop. but for more than $700.00 surgeries, for trauma cases, we distributed diesel fuel because there is no electricity. every other
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n g o that has been working and syria has been doing work non stop. and i think it's important to highlight the wall of humanitarian walker and the fact that this earthquake also affected their mental health. yeah, sometimes we forget that doctors and nurses are human like are slow and they are also affect the doctors. and i'm so glad that you brought that up. we actually have a video featuring some doctors who are kind of really just candidly expressing their reality and how they too are suffering. take listen, lateesha lazar, little to we feel still on the cause of the strong earthquake oxygen cylinders fell on the surgical endoscopy device and the mobiles c on which caused these devices to malfunction. these device is absolutely necessary in emergency cases or during disasters. no orthopedic surgery can be performed without the mo bile seat arm device. emily asked me to do in a joseph thumbs. he had a little coffee fees, and when i let him know, unfortunately, colleagues, from jebel, as medical cod, raised, died under rubble to come. some members of the ambulance crew died because they
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were in a building which collateral and not all sort of missed from. i mean, doctors, i had, i have to ask you when you hear those doctors and you know, knowing that so many hospitals have been destroyed that you've been delivering fuel fuel to these hospitals because it's so needed. i wonder, where do you have hope that what do you think needs to happen for this to be as the months come, you know, i think kind of is that tension, fade the way. what is the most important mechanism to ensure that the people are protected as they can be given so much vulnerable? and the most important thing is for programs like you and al jazeera and other media outlet to keep her spotting attention on syria and other disaster regions. the 2nd, think people are resilient in syria and other places of the world. that doctor model under was the head of our hospital in there. who's he mentioned that you know, he was traumatized with, you know, the group of doctors and nurses because they,
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they, they took care of a child who survived the earth wake and climbed from under the rebels. and he was trying, with his bare hands to lift the stones. so his dad and mom and brothers can survive and he will not know. he was traumatized. everyone around him was traumatized, but they want they continue to work and that i, that we are paying attention to them. we'll keep them working. if we lift syria priority to be a priority in the u. s. administration, because by the administration ignored it, that will make a difference to the salient model. unless syria become a priority, then things will happen like this. and i think also, i mean, i agree with zion, but i also would like to add that we need the big, big shift. and the donor is policy approach to want to syria, actually for 12 years they've been responding to syria as if it is an ongoing earthquake. they will just delivering the minimum humanitarian aid needed without any prospect for long term plan. and we'll see the result of this now. i mean many
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people died in the northwest because there were no building regulations, brown or people were building gun whatever. and there is no one to monitor. and to check that everything was built according to rules i. now, while i agree with your guest from sidney, that we need to support organizations like the white helmet, red crescent, but every institution has its capacity and they cannot expand just like this over the night. there is so many organizations need the supported to be supported. also, the mandate of this organization is supported now like the white helmet and others . but looking moving forward, we need somebody to rebuild this school. this says we need the friend organizations and we need to build them. and we need to also stress from now. good governors conditionality based on respecting human rights, obscure evaluation all what is needed to build institutional structures without institutions. the society is going to be vulnerable against syria and all its part is going to be involved again. ready and donors, us ok. everyone need to focus on institutional building across syria. certainly i
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am point to end on we have just one minute left. chairman, i want to ask you, i know your mother's in syria and you spoke to us about how she's struggling any personal stories you can share with us before we rob here. i think. yeah, i mean there are many personal stories, the same things related to what the doctor said. so also our colleagues in italy very me. the same thing. one of them actually we unfortunately lost your life during the quick and also the others were trying the same time trying to take care of the family, taking their, their, their family, their baby, the wives, to the attention center, to someone safe. i'm going back to the warehouse where we are having relief. 8th, we're trying to deliver the kids, you know, so my kids can keep his hospitals needed. i just want to take advantage of this moment to tell you very quickly we're running out of time. thank you very much,
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very, it's very important. not to lose this for spotlight on city a. we should not forget the situation. you mandated access should not be close. 30 months later people should have access to 8 people deserve this. thank you. and we want to thank you for being part of this conversation for joining us for sharing your insights with us. certainly a conversation we'll continue to follow here at the stream. that's all the time we have for today. thank you. as i had said, one and the theme. see you next time. ah ah.
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