was to miss our conscience and to make us be more aware of her. all these matters. at the same time, to give an insight from a very personal point of view. with the film in the ukraine, we see what many civilians there have found themselves doing. learning how to use an automatic rifle. the nervous smiles and laughter during the lessons are a distraction from the question of how effective these novice soldiers might be in real fighting. in some areas destroyed tanks, provide an impromptu plaything for the younger generation. yeah, but that's not what i'm pulling up. i believe he used the girls while the more traditional playgrounds now nestle between bombed buildings, some areas are out of bands entirely. here the happy wailing of infants has given way to the high frequency wail of the mind detector. a reminder that in the war in

ukraine, even children are targets dorner cane al jazeera berlin. ah, i've a quick check of the headlines here on al jazeera. the united nations is appealed for a $1000000000.00 to cover immediate humanitarian needs inter kia falling last week's earthquakes. they also need $400000000.00 for quake affected regions in syria. rental soda has been meeting survivors in the northern syrian town agenda. this any drop off the aid can help them to survive this winter. you can see that there are thousands and thousands of people that they have lost their houses or relative there did ones. now they are here waiting for aid for food, food, warm clothes, for heaters and for the medicines. so it has been days that they were waiting for

these aid. they're sad, they're angry, and they say they feel that the international community has forgotten them. more than 42000 people are now known to have died. authorities haven't yet announced the number of people still missing. there still some incredible stories of survival though. in car abum busch, a 17 year old girls been rescued after 10 days buried under the rubble. the head of the russian state, back to wagner, mercenary group, is blaming what he calls moscow's monstrous bureaucracy for slow military gains. if any progression says it could take months to capture the eastern ukrainian town a back moot, which has seen intense fighting and recent weeks. it's capture would be a major symbolic win for russia. when all the president of bell roost says his country would join the war alongside russia if attacks alexander lucas shanker, made the comments during a rare press conference involving foreign journalists. galleries was used as a launching point for the invasion last year and still

a host russian troops. moldova knew, prime minister as promising to revive the economy and foster closer ties with the european union. doran recham was voted in by parliament of the previous government resigned. the past 18 months have seen high inflation mold open government as all circular russia of trying to destabilize the country. so those are the headline, and he's continues here now to 0 after the stream stage with thanks to watching bye for now. we don't simply focus on the politics of the conflict. it's the consequence of war. the human suffering that he reports on it is one of the most serious about the violence in recent years. we brave bullet bomb because we give voice to those demanding freedom. the rule of law and will always include the views from all sides. scores of afghans had fled their homeland since the taliban take over. in a special to harker point $11.00 east. as to women, determined to build new lives far from home on al jazeera,

with . welcome to the stream at 17. it's been 10 days since earthquakes caused catastrophic damage and northwest syria, leaving thousands dead and millions displaced homes. hospitals and roads have been destroyed, and families are grieving, loved ones, while trying to survive the aftermath themselves. today we ask, why aren't syrians getting the help they need and what can be done about it? let's start today's conversation with the video comments sent to us from xena and him. i believe the main reason for not getting that very much needed aids into a north and syria is not the current war situation, nor the status of the border. it is mainly the lack of will. i'm the lack of interest by that international community to help the syrians who are living inside . i think the whole world has got used to syrians being killed for that. not to be

a big and uncertainty the bureaucracy of the you and that doesn't take into consideration that the urgency of such a crisis. and if there was a, we'll have the equipment would have been passed through which rakish border into, nor to syria chosen soft life could have been shaved. a battle don't happen. johnny us to discuss from chicago. dr. had a lu, president of med global in amsterdam, sit around cost him member of the emergency support team from doctors without borders. and with us from london, him to command the director of the syria conflict research program at the london school of economics. and of course, we want you to join the conversation as always, so be sure to share your thoughts and questions with us on youtube. dr. dr. is i had, i should say, can we start just by laying out the scale, the sheer scale of this protracted conflict and crisis?

thank you for having me. as every one know, probably everyone knows that syria has been going through a very painful civil war for the past 12 years. this area that was impacted mostly by the earthquake and northwest of syria has 4 point. 2000000 people have of them are displaced from other regions in syria, that the number of heads who are impacted by the lake is close to 9000000, including 3500000 syrian refugees who live and southern turkey. many of them have been killed because of the earthquake, and do you have an area that was disconnected from the outside ward for the past 10 years or, or so, has been bomb frequently by russia. and i saw the regime, hospitals have been bomb. so hospitals are built into basements or field hospitals . they don't have enough infrastructures for cleaning of the water, electricity spares. and now you have this large back to earth wake,

the area in syria has not been hit with another week. and this magnet you for magnitude for the past 200 years. so you have shortage of medical supplies. you have shortage own pants. you have now more than 50000 families who are displaced. suddenly the weather is very cold. and then you have the impact of the earthquake that will last for few years from now. in addition, on top of that, the lack of stress and then the rest community that they now have mentioned in the video. yeah, no, i appreciate you sum it up for us there and you know, sharon, when we talk about the lack of will the lack of interests obviously that factors in but there's also the logistics. i mean it took a 192 hours. that's 8 full days for the 1st view and convoy to enter through babble . how i mean many would see this as a obvious and blatant failure of, of the syrian people in terms of bringing them a. where do you put the main barriers and what concerns you most sherwin?

yup. and doctors, i say it's actually the problem is that this has been through 12 years of conflicts that destroy the health system that need to have system quite weak. and because of the consequences of the sort of quick that made actually the remaining has facilities are under unbearable pressure to treat the huge or massive amounts of patients coming to the study. as you said in pete, the humanitarian access, reaching an office city, i was very late, actually the city and population through the through the other tribes in east you fifties, managed to send much more trucks for 8 and relief than you in huntington national position managed to do during the last 8 days, which is mainly because of the policy of one community and access that is managed through the security council mechanism. and also the vulnerable and weak

humanitarian situation before this conflict for us us and assess dr with our borders. we managed actually to intervene a bit quick and fast at the beginning with what we have in every project. we are operating like a small stop, what we call emergency preparedness. yeah, we use this immersion, emergency preparedness talk as much as we could in a way to, to deal with the 1st phase of the mass casualty plans that we were arranging that, that time. and, you know, we talk about the different stages. obviously, in the immediate aftermath of any disaster that that's when aid is needed the most . because then the problem problems as we've seen happen in syria can start to be compounding, right? we've seen color already there, and i want to ask you with all that in mind to deem i don't want to talk about the blame game per se, but, but where do you put the blame in terms of how to prevent this from continuing to

happen? it seems like syrians have been very vocal online, and the arab community is online responding to that in the absence of real organisation amongst governments or the syrian government. so i think the blame is on the lack of a solution. the we shouldn't have been in this situation of the 1st place. i think the are the, the because there was no political solution. we ended up with syria divided to 3 different parts. and in addition to all my colleagues have mentioned about the obstacle as the logistics than the friends. i would like also to talk about different sets of reasons in northwest of syria. i think the biggest issue is that there is no state and it became clear from the response of the international community that all the emergency international response is prepared. the designed around working with the state of the, at the receiving end. they come out, respond to a governance spaces or space that governed with the rebate governance. so they

wanted a state of decision maker on the other side to give access insurance, etc, etc. and that is not there in the 2nd thing also is the presence of a terrorist organization in this area, which is why so many donors already withdrew from this area and cut their support to pure minimum him at the i support. so they're already out of the area, not wanting to access it, and also accessing northwest, sadly hostage to geopolitics toward decision from different states, including turkey, which was delaying some of the decisions to access grow the country in the government control. yeah, there was a different problem there, there is a state, but it's, it's kind of a legitimate state and it's cut off from the rest of the world. so all the companies and that national community want to access, they have to really start the communications. and what's happening and, and i'll and doctors, i don't look like you wanted to jump in, go ahead. yes,

i mean, i agree with the many points that the liam has mentioned, but people imagined that celia is one country, but it's divided 2 for parts. each one of them has their governing body. this area and north west of syria is under the control of variables. it's accessed only through turkey through one border crossing before this is a disaster and now there is 3 border crossing. so it's an open air prison that has been softening for the past 12 years because of the world because of the seas from dice are the regime the people inside this area. and celia perceive this are the regime under i shelf course and iran as their enemies. so they will not accept any assistance even if it's offered from that other gene. is like you are giving booth and, and assistance and giving and telling them give it to the ukranian. so this is how the salience in that area perceived that sandra gene, it's been bombing them on star for the past that while years. and clearly there is a lack of political will and veneration committee. turkey has been very helpful before the crisis, directing all 8 across the border. but gilkey has to deal with

a disaster its own. you have more than 20000000 turkish citizens who have been affected by this area in southern turkey. many of the roads leading to the border crossing have been destroyed. so what is need really is to live city as a priority to the international community. and, you know, and they might have said they were saying we cannot sympathize with celia because it's a civil war. none of it now you have an end way. now you can sympathize easily. right? and i wish we could, you know, somehow extricate the politics out of this. and actually i have facilitate the emergency aid they need, but also the more lasting aid with that in mind. and with everything you just outlined their doctors. i had, i want to share with you some thoughts that were echoed by, by missouri during that of from she's the senior program development officer for the white helmets who are kind of accusing by saddle. i said specifically of manipulating this disaster ah,

for his needs take listen. let's try shop block camille and manipulate the international community and put a pressure on this area because it's, it's position area and, and they can see the community that allows for i dictator and for the, for the to block this 8 even even when we have not for a disaster. so this is like a clear bullet elevations and we have seen the 8 international aid arrives depends on the victims, identity not depends on the needs. then i want to draw your attention to my computer screen. this is a post on instagram from kim, with us. it's her article in the financial times in it. she says that, but i said, you know, rehabilitating himself with the international community while posing for pictures

in the disaster zone with his wife. she goes on to talk about, you know, sort of how you know, so many people feel as though as be heard in the top that syrians have been forgotten. and there's a lack of political will. and that's allowing people to sort of exploit this disaster with that in mind. i mean, where should our attention be in terms of tangibly trying to bring the humanitarian aid that's needed? i think it should be based on the people on the needs, like my friend was not just saying, you know, the, it has to be need space, not politicians based. i think the actors in each area have been trying to exploit the situation politically, including july, need the head of the interim government and in the, the syrian regime. but the focus has to be on the people that they have to be given priority. and on the inquiry, the boats to nami, of a society we've seen, i mean, this is like, we just didn't imagine that this, why everything,

12 years on the students of the site, the has this energy, this power, and they just rose from under the ashes. they were acting everywhere in every area across all conflict lines. the attention has to be them. they need to be supported . they need to be the, the new carrier of off kind of new syria. the monitor is off of any help at the implementers of any assistance. so i think that's where we need to focus and we should ignore all the se petitions trying to exploit the situation to their on ends. now i see all 3 of you nodding, then go ahead, go ahead. doctors are again my agree with the with the dream on this issue. i mean, as an organization that working in the humanitarian a sphere are not only in syria but in ukraine in bangladesh. in yemen and sudan, we deal with situations that many entity, when i politicize the reason, i mean, we know that human again, it was weaponized by that soccer gene. when they seized

a danny and medea and we had starvation in these areas. we had patients with severe mental attrition, few years ago and seriously did not forget this. so, but as a humanitarian, we want to make sure that the aide reaches the people that need based on the priorities. so we partner with local community, we ask them, what are the priorities right now? the priorities are food and medicine and shelter. next few weeks from now we're going to be wash, should be clean water because the clean water, the water sources have been contaminated with sewage and we had clear out break just a few weeks from away from now. we still have this weather outbreak the we expect this to get wars, social and fire, you know, mental health support, especially for the children and the victims. while right now, without homes in this area. so mental health should be a priority. so to us the priorities of the local community, our, our priorities, regardless, who are the actors who are trying to minute, manipulate the most certainly incorrectly. go ahead chairman's ok. thank you very

much. actually, i totally agree with the clothes on it and with everything they said, i want to come back to the point of the mental health, mental it is one of the biggest need actually started my work in the community and field as a translator. for psychologist, i was talking to a lot of people who been through different stage of trauma, the last 12 years. this in like unbearable situation, led to a miserable humanitarian situation for the people living on control areas. i mean, let's not forget that. so us as an essay, we are trying to be in every place we can be. we have presence in office, syria. we are working in a whole comp in a 2nd. iraq are in co bonnie, at the same time we are working in the opposition control area with in the area under control of the senior national army. so we are in the us in different districts of a little. we are in a little countryside. we are in it live in the area is under control of your national army. they are the control, you know, the salvation government. what,

why i brought all of this. i brought little this because that show how that then fragmented is a see a situation where you, besides the remote of the proxy world that's going on in the country for us. we are trying to, you know, like one of the main reasons actually for this situation to dish this degree before the earthquake. i mean, it's 12 years of have quick. actually. it's not only an earthquake that made this tuition horrible. it's a continuous humanitarian disaster that is going on. but before that there was digital media. yeah. unfortunately, a lot of media platforms and also a lot of people when they didn't want to hear more about it. yeah. we, we need take this opportunity. i don't want to do that is very important point about mental health or i think now we have like almost everyone who went through this earthquake is having post traumatic stress disorder. and we start to think the symptoms people and the social media are talking about living the earthquake again and again having all the classic symptoms of p as the and the sad thing is,

peter is the, is not even talked about before. people don't even know about that. never heard about that. they don't know that what's going that what they're going through is actually a syndrome. it has symptoms and there are ways to kind of handle it. so we need to raise awareness about to have content and arabic to spread about is the to help because there are no one, no organization would be able to respond on its own to this massive need. people need to be to learn how to help themselves and how to help their relatives and friends and children. i mean children also are very, very vulnerable to really, i mean, the shock they went through it will have live life lasting impacts. i'm always stay there to the point you are saying actually i'm in touch with my family, which is inside syria. i have my mother, my brother, my sister, my sister has 2 beautiful boys, 4 year olds, and 6 year old. i mean, my nephews are not that are using to sleep in their rooms. they are every night

saying mom, the house will be shaking my mom until yesterday. we managed to let her go to her house even though the house. luckily there are some cracks, but it's it's according to the people who came, i look at it, it's quite safe. but she is feeling that every day that the grant is shaking and shaking under her all her besides the fact that there is no hope that the situation really and everybody is concerned, i'm afraid that to model war, we forget again what happened in syria, this as quick as you 40, i know like oldest people taking a look at, of course the media and everybody's interested now would lose that interest in, in 3 months. and then we will come back to the previous situation. we should do our best route to end up in the us to i want to share with you and bring in a voice all the way from australia. this was a video common sent to us by aaron of dyke at humanitarian engineer with experience . doing this kind of important work after disasters, take a listen. she may turn organizations or are struggling to access these areas. so i

just, this past weekend, there was so only one border crossing from turkey in to syria. so with the syrian government now permitting additional border crossings and for aid to reach affected communities and opposition held areas. but this is still challenging for those organizations. so really, the key to, to this response moving forward will be supporting local organizations such as the, the syrian red crescent, the syrian civil defense force, the white helmets. and we really seen these organizations be instrumental over the last decade of conflict in syria. doctors i had obviously those organizations are instrumental but in such a fractured state where there is no clear authority or they really able to operate, especially when the world's focus is not on them, as it is after this earthquake. i can say proudly as sir, so maybe global my organization i've been in syria north was ardo, syria for the past 12 years are providing support to health care system to hosp those to clinic. so we started mobile clinic just for one day after the earthquake

to provide health care to the people who are now with our children. our hospitals have been working nonstop, but for more than 700 surgeries, for trauma cases, we distributed diesel fuel because there is no electricity. every other energy or that has been working in syria has been doing work non stop. and i think it's important to highlight the wall of humanitarian walker and if i read this earthquake also affected their mental health. yeah. sometimes we forget that doctors and nurses are human like us and they are also affect the doctors. and i'm so glad that you brought that up. we actually have a video featuring some doctors who are kind of really just candidly expressing their reality and how they too are suffering. take listen, lateesha lazar little. we feel still on the cost of the strong earthquake oxygen cylinders fell on the surgical endoscopy device and the mobiles c. m, which caused these devices to malfunction. these device is absolutely necessary in emergency cases or during disasters. no orthopedic surgery can be performed without

the mo bile seat arm device. emily asked me to do an jazel thumbs. he had a little coffee. he is. and when i let him know, unfortunately, colleagues from giblin, medical card raised died under rebels. some members of the ambulance crew died because they were in a building which collateral and not all sort of missed from. i mean, doctors, i had, i have to ask you when you hear those doctors and you know, knowing that so many hospitals have been destroyed that you've been delivering fuel to these hospitals because it's so needed. i wonder, where do you have hope that what do you think needs to happen for this to be as the months come, you know, as things kind of is that tension fade the way. what is the most important mechanism to ensure that the people are, is that as protected as they can be given so much vulnerability? and the most important thing is for programs like you and al jazeera and other media outlet to keep or spotting attention on syria and other disaster regions. the

2nd, think people are resilient in syria and other places of the world. that doctor model under was the head of our hospital in there. who's he mentioned that you know, he was traumatized with, you know, the group of doctors and nurses because they, they, they took care of a child who survived the earth wake and climbed from under the rebels. and he was trying, with his bare hands to lift the stones. so his dad and mom and brothers can survive and he will not know. he was traumatized. everyone around him was traumatized, but they want they continue to walk and that i, that we are paying attention to them. we'll give them working. if we live syria priorities to be a priority in the u. s. administration because by the administration ignored it, that will make a difference to the salient, modular, unless syria become a priority, then things will happen like this. and i think also, i mean, i agree with zion, but i also would like to add that we need the big, big shift. and the donor is policy approach to one, syria, actually for 12 years,

they've been responding to syria as if it is an ongoing earthquake. they will just delivering the minimum humanitarian aid needed without any prospect for long term plan. and we'll see the result of this now. i mean many people died in the northwest because there were no building regulations, but people were building gun whatever and there is no one to monitor. and to check that everything was built according to rules. and now while i agree with your guest from sidney, that we need to support organizations like the white helmet, red crescent, but every institution has its capacity and they cannot expand just like this overnight. there are so many organizations need the supported to be supported. also, the mandate of this organization is a port that now like the white helmet and others. but looking moving forward, we need somebody to rebuild this school. this says we need different organizations and we need to build them. and we need to also stress from now good governor's conditionality based on respecting human rights,

upscale one given evaluation. oil is needed to build institutional structures without institutions. this a site is going to be vulnerable against syria and all its part is going to be on the. ready again and dawn, there is u. s. u k, everyone, you need to focus on institutional building across syria. certainly a salient point to end on. we have just one minute left. chairman, i want to ask you, i know your mother's in syria and you spoke to us about how she's struggling any personal stories you can share with us before we rob here. i think a yeah, i mean there are many personal stories. the same thing related to what the person said. so also our colleagues in italy area, they're not me. the same thing. one of them actually we unfortunately lost his life during this f quick and also the others were trying the same time trying to take care of their family, taking that there to their family, their baby, their wives, to the reception center too. so some are safe on going back to the warehouse where

we are having a relief. 8 we're trying to deliver the kids, you know, and that's all my kids. if you can get that this hospitals need it. i just want also to take advantage of this moment to tell you very quickly we're running out of time. thank you very much. very, it's very important. not to lose the dispos spotlight on cynthia. we should not forget the situation. he mandated access should not be closed. 3 months later, people should have access to 8 people deserve this. thank you. and we want to thank you for being part of this conversation for joining us for sharing your insights with us. certainly a conversation we'll continue to follow here at the stream. that's all the time we have for today. thank you. as i had said, one and the team see you next time. ah

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