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continent, the blocks leadership gathers yet again, as africa grapples with many challenges. but are african leaders up to the task? this is insightful. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much of job leaders from 55 african nations are meeting and ethiopia for the annual african union summit. this year is different than others. the russian foreign minister toward the continent last week, as the wagner groups involvement in some of the continents conflicts is increasing . all this comes as francis influence in west africa is dwindling. remarkably. burkina faso, guinea and molly are lobbying to reinstate their countries to the african union. they lost their seats following military coups. un secretary general antonio. the terrace is also joining the leaders in the capital,

addis ababa together with the european council president charles michelle. so what's on the agenda? leaders will discuss widespread conflict in the eastern democratic republic of congo and insecurity. and molly burkina, faso, guinea, and sudan. another major topic will be food security. many people are going hungry and several regions with somalia close to famine. the group will also debate regional cooperation. fox between sudan and ethiopia, and libya stall, transition are among top concerns. on a broader level, governments will discuss a request for permanent african seats on the united nations security council. and the g 20 group of major economies. ah, all right, for more on all this i'm joined by our guests in kampala is victor ocean, director for african youth initiative. network in rabbit is mohammed liskey, senior fellow at the policy center for the new south american think tank that focuses on economic and social public policies. and in london is jonathan affair.

i'm sorry, founder and publisher at africa briefing magazine. a warm welcome to you all and thanks for being with us on inside story today. victor, let me start with you today. the 2023 african union summit is going to be taking place at a very fraught time for the continent. how important is it that this be a productive summit? oh, thank you. i think it went when the 3 a use, i mean is business coming at the point when there's so much are global interest that you studied the significance of africa, given the current global situation about the leasing tension between the superpowers and all that. but and the question comes, what role, what will africa play in terms of this global security piece and all of this, what would be the most quasi boys that african union or african block and come forward and present. because at the end of the day, you look at, there's been reason for need to consider did african position them all is good is

our biggest policies allow and issues driven by state? will it all fragility and identity based politics that has been problematic? so i hope the african union, sammy disdain, will bring a i, late on situation around the corner in the right. not which else significant, most importantly addressing did need to address did little conflict. yes. right, victor, let me follow up with you want to point that you were making there when it comes to the competition between the global superpowers right now and, and the role africa is playing because you've had russian foreign minister survey lab, rob, you have the new chinese foreign minister, you've had the u. s. treasury secretary, all have embarked on african tours within the past month. russia, china, the us, they are all trying to expand their footprints in africa right now. so how much geopolitical bargaining power does that give africa at this moment? yes, you did mention, so did mental powers look at how you know,

they've gone on with the belief that a strong asked appendix for structure and gauge made masika a little broad reaching, you know, diplomacy, development and security issues. i also look at your opinion and i made it the point that they want to consolidate. renewed commitment to china, but also looking at the u. k. the russia, india, all these are deliberate, significant, you know, develop made which are very important. columbia and security point of view, but now you look at how in africa was and so we need to get point where africa to join different or does this, it was quite a bit because we need to know everybody think this. now, how do we are standing quite clear africa and then to possible come what africa do adequate to be foster big sites which you want to go. we are that way to say. ready

as a contact name than what history we need, that one agenda we have our own ambition is to focus on our, you know, mainstream political economy and insecurity point of this met. i think africa would be and battle ground, but to should look into how the seek i q i, i'm not sure doesn't strengthen stability in the continent. jonathan, i saw you nodding along somewhat. victor was saying there, so i'm going to give you a chance to jump in, but i also want to ask you, what are the priorities of this summit and from your vantage point, what's expected to come out of it? when i'm, i always see that's a the pass a you some, it's, i've come to regret it. i said we're in our thoughts shall fall and i am african leaders. but m de cannot come the view of a weather geopolitical and the situation. and we find ourselves today currently am a victim mentioned or vicious by and not the new chinese for him. and he saw recently

by i am sick, elaborate from russia, get at yellen, where they were trying to get free, as well as the u. s. o butter to wear to the un. give one been for 2 gun and the question african get it neutral axis. why in all this interest in africa. ok from washington. i see that all these mega poets are cochin africa because africa, something too often africa has something that they need. right? so this is the time. look, we have, they, it will be a union. we have the issue. countries are not the only corporate shrunk economic blocks. we have the, we set up the africa, wichita free trade area. look to facilitate an increase in traffic and treat and all of that. yeah, but we need to look us out. wild is a big, big poet. i call to nation, we must know a what we have, what we possess,

that the unique and know how to leverage their content is advantage. so to me this air, air summits and all should be erica passer took her by the scriptures, which would be on the continent, took about climate change and took her by columbia. how come to reach our resources to the apple store utmost? a drenching hammer, african leaders are going to advocate for a permanent seats for the continent on the un security council. they also want to join the g 20 m. what are the chances that that, that these goals are achievable? well, let me, let me good. begin by saying that africa does not accept any mode to be an on the, on the menu about, well, to be in around the table with the other powers. in terms of the,

in the initiative, it's huge in security because of the united nations. but also having said, whenever the challenges of the global challenges door addressed to how they see and, and to have it's, it's contribution africa and a quarter of my friend said before me, by all the superpower and not, not only because it's not resisted. but because of the potential economic potential that africa is, is go into in 203-2050. 2000 africa will be 1200000000. conseula population will be 1.2 and in 2015 it will be 2000 to 2. need to be d. n 25 will be the 3rd region in because demographically, the most important and with this increase in the graphic con,

consent consumers, africa, we have between 70800 gets us from me to use the market. and it's, it will benefit from the front truck agreements that the country lots of free trade agreement. but it is also an open market for all the older powers because africa now is open to read partnership. it's not anymore a lot of one on the other. but it is often to read partnership in which african, when we, when we get to the, the, the, the priorities will set the objectives of to publish it. jonathan,

one of the issues it's expected to dominate during this summit is the push buyer, west african states of breaking a fossil guinea, and molly to be reinstated to the a you after being stripped of their membership, following military coups be how are to roll? do you think this is going to play during the summit and, and is that something that could happen? could we see them be reinstated? i don't see that happening in all this years. something because a look m a u echo was that other regional they said, or i'll have to come astro strongly against any with the tree or what and you and you could tell i'm a d quoted. neutral do for that digital digital addition and all of a bit of countries, and therefore jerry's budget bridges. so not done that to you said that the robot we can of money. good. the devote a cost us already stood a robot for them to judge due to our rule, until dr. rule would not be struck you. i doubt if the

and the a you will raise to them, you know, it's, will the body. victor, how much are african countries written by identity politics? i'm talking about tribalism. i'm talking about sectarianism and how much does all that hamper what the a you is able to accomplish in its work. again. and i gave those who resulted into massive organized criminal activities across i have seen better see the political mistress about us continue to define the continent online abroad. you find, you know, the next countries being used as the house for the next conflict in liberty, county, and oldest, protracted experiences of domestic and external, political ability as been a good result for master trust isn't because they don't. and we have seen that when,

you know, proper gander alone, tribes along the city along really yes. i see the asians created only the big, deplorable reaction from different countries. and it's been really difficult. i think that's attracted must be my question. we have said that by, by study of phone, after every 10 to 15, yes, must have close this up and especially the great lakes region and region. it does seem numerous under reason is simply because young people are bonded to conflict that told with enemies half their way to suffering that total way. day in there. if you can battle way out of the country by the time to reach 10 to 15 years old. they're strong enough and they want to strike back. and these are the kind of got that generational transport trauma of pain of challenges. so it has been difficult for us to be able to help the young people, young, universal, and transformed at trauma, their pain history,

internal need for leadership. and that's why we have seen as been that s and the sized politics, ethnic development, ethnic government, ethnic progress, we had to comes as long as it enable to dissect the at mrs. d, the ethnic ingredients in the african democracy. it's all, it is going to be a problem for the continent. that's anita that you need to look at. what is that is needed for a you to talk openly, to talk transparently about this issue among themselves. we're seeing chris, what attention in the country attention does man's are defined by tribal isms and just kind of thing becomes ingredient from the conflict. how do we get it just wanted that age, focusing mohammed from your vantage point. how is the african union doing when it comes to coordinating with the regional blocks, whether that pertains to security issues or economic issues. how, how is the a you doing when it comes to that?

i think that we have to intercept the fact that i think a union is inter governmental organizations. so it is about trying to coordinate the policies of suffering states. it has nothing to do, for example, with europe in union, for which the member states decided to, to they gave of their competencies african union and to govern the organization. so it can only be efficient if the member states have the political will to allow the african union to really coordinate between that between themselves. and i think that come back to the a you, the african union managed to structure itself in an arc detector, dealing with security that you beginning to use all fruits and some results.

of course, in any structure, you have always the initiative to coordinate. there are maybe sometime, a duplication between the recently economic commission of the african union and new to hormone. i need to really deal with the subject, the t or, or between the african union. and it's economic regional commission. now in dealing with a t t piece of security is a global issue. the african union and african member states cannot deal with issues like terrorism, like conflicts with development without the contribution of the international community. one has knowledge also that compared to the other regional organization african you can see d, v,

p c, community deployment, integration health. it's it right. it cannot because of efficiency and mandates with all other reasons. we have to give the benefit of doubt to the african union. we have to think and union it is all the right. but we have, i think, to be extremely patient and understanding and namely in the african union to discharge user mandates in b t community. but also in development, economic and social development. jonathan from your vantage point, just how effective is the a you there are a lot of critics that say that it standards have been eroded when it comes to member states. do you think that's the case? and there's so many challenges impacting the content right now. our african leader is up to the task. i believe like abraham. it said it

compared to that way you, which was the door, was referred to as the owners club. and of adam looking at the a you today and of, and i said it went out to some of us literacy. gotta talk to him. and i believe i see some grad wild progress. so grad were result. and oh, i see. so increases both go well, right, this is highlighted by the established rental day of the africa recall touch up area. okay. and well the piece has put to council. look, you talk about it, it's your piano degree, a wall that ended in league last year. i'm in the mediation was made facilitated by a fellow of candidates by the but a, you ok without any, what's in missions playing it go to a, deplete the had a hand but with left,

but if i created bye bye bye a you, dentist. so i see a grad wow. in the lab results, when i'm coming up, i see the post co increasing, but i do it did look we ag messy office it off. was it ok a you a sam? look the a you have got that yourself. what could it have by china? look at it like fan ok m. so min, best kind of even in all p, my best to kind of p get use on time. ok. and even now days at least relying on again as to now, funding in a for you. so chris's ok, so and, and i did, i could the comment probably school, he will pay the piper in ohio that called the tool. so until i, secondly this, i would get together, it'll increase your result and

o m w more took that ocean, but so far so far below. gotcha, director, would it. and if you thought would right, or we can go no further than we are now. victor, of course, one of the biggest concerns when it comes to africa right now is, is hunger. and so it's expected that, you know, one of the biggest subjects of discussion during this summit is going to be the worsening hunger in several regions. somalia is on the verge of famine. let's just one example. what are some of the concrete steps that can be taken to help this situation to, to, to help improve this situation? to combat this about the, on the back of the big from the horn of africa. i think 2 major issues to, to address would be want to address the question of a my question. the question of movement. moving from one another. i'm unable to produce at all if you really wishes to address the cause of all these

multiple crises, i think is important that we need to address the question of what makes people to move what and the reason why one moving from one place to another. and then to produce that, of course, that natural disasters the element of much of the draught we have disease is you know, flood also multiple the inequality in the governance system. that makes it very difficult for people to profess. that of course, that most people i think is also the climate change issues you really don't is experiencing better difficult time. so you mentioned somebody mentally at the local junior, we are seeing, you know, the animals i drive to them. i think also, i think is very important to know that we've been with patton and already which is causing a must be from such a region and so on for structure. we need to be able to how do we navigate the question of climate crisis?

what we, the intent address climate crisis focused on food security. we focus on domestic library when it comes down to policies. as so might we need to invest the somebody that we can do and we must do as a continent in order to be able to. but the looming and the price is always, we have to be ongoing discounts. we have my see opportunity, the democratic demographic power, the young people, we have so much energy of young people. and to me that energy is the right energy for august about how we're using it, how you're going to integrate those young people. we are forcing them to move away . we're putting them to leave. the community does to stay with seeing must be around about migration. people are moving from where they can produce, where they come, come and stay in the slams in the suburbs of deceit and settings. so if we can, it would be a challenge to our government to look at, address the question of how can you attract people that productive spect society in

this case it's like recapture, but also how can create and vitamin young people to make ugly. gotcha, the wendy mit living in rural communities, we have for that stevie to take place the wadi. but if the development infrastructure stops at mission capital, we are not able to counter the prospect for must be of looming and no pointed to life within our countries. but it comes down to policies, have been close to list, be honest. i 2nd government should commit to going away from politics of poverty where you keep it up well for easy manifestation and is a contract. let's see, how can we help our young people progress and want to stay home and want to contribute to the national? right. i want to ask you about peacekeeping missions. when it comes to peacekeeping missions, how difficult have they been for the a you to finance? and,

and is their progress being made when it comes to contributing to funding of piece making and piece support operations on the continent? well, if your, if you allow me, because you, you said what, what african countries can to concrete, the in terms of dealing with food insecurity that we just take one minute and then i went to go have the short piece. i just like the, the anger or food insecurity, crossroads off climate change productivity of agriculture and companies. resolutions. there are some concrete initiative that has been taken, for example, by roekel with 14 or 15 other african countries in terms of promoting the productivity of the agriculture in these countries. but he was in fact either

by analyzing the, the nature of science. and i think we have managed to be successful with some countries, for example, like, like, like, like if you like, i would order in which is kind of the nation between the 2 in the framework of operations in our very promising rhythm. now, let me to the peacekeeping. i said earlier, does piece and she is, is a global issue. it concerns all the international community, not only the african, the fact that most of the peacekeeping operations are in africa doesn't mean that africa by itself to deal with the issue here. something that africa is trying to do with demands that are available. but

for, for the presence of the near future, i think that the african union, the economy regional commission still needs support in logistics, in training and in finance for the time in about 75 percent of the budget is coming in from the outside african countries. and the implementation of 2 percent, that's the adopted after the reports of residents, guy coming on the reform or off the financing or peacekeeping operation by the api . can you? and it's something that can enable the offering. got to be more involved financially . indeed, in which it's coffee, yet it is always a possibility of the national community. and it is

a responsibility of especially not to contradict, are mixed with the challenge of terrorism and vibrant in this. all right, but we have run out of times we're going to actually burn discussion there. thanks so much. all of our guests picture, ocean hammer, lisky and jonathan of a i'm so and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website or dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a jay inside story. mean how much i'm joking, the whole team here ah ah.

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