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a human face. syria witnesses for the prosecution on al jazeera who will be nigeria, snacks, leader, photos in africa, most populous country are about to elect a new president and a new national assembly. but what's a plate this time around? and his democracy strengthening in nigeria. this is inside story. ah, ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm rob matheson on saturday voters in nigeria go to the polls to elect a new president, but africa's largest democracy at its biggest economy as being suffering more violence is that ballot approaches. several police officers have been killed in the last few days in separate attacks by suspected rebels in southeast and

a senate candidate from the opposition. labor party was shot dead late on wednesday by unknown assailants in southeastern, in no go state. with nigeria as dead rising. and taxis failing to raise enough cash or how much bahati successor is going to face tough financial constraints. 18 candidates on the ballot, but 4 are getting the most attention because of their chances to win or forced themselves into a runoff on the digits, reports from a boucher ah peter gregory will be a former governor of our number estate is the youngest of the front runners to be nigeria, next president. his campaign message seems to resonate with young voters who say they are tired of the politics of the world. oh, we want to secure a new night. niger. 12 class from nigeria form is presidents cost because consumption to

productive crunch. 6 a successful businessman, he broke away from the party that made him governor, and one that chose him must a presidential running mate to lead the labor party spread national campaign. robbie was a conquer, so has a similar shift from the major parties to one that doesn't control any legislature or state then and p p candidate is a for my defense minister and was governor of nigeria. second was popular state county for 8 years. the election now is between the big names who have destroyed this country and people who are looking for an alternative. the 2023 election is in business as usual. the 2 new contenders and their supporters believe they can and see the governing party. just like in 2015, when the opposition won, the opponent say they can only divert votes from the main political parties. some analysts expect the to, to force or run off and with skilful negotiations when,

or even decide who becomes president this is, amanda jones opposition is trying to storm a former governor of nigeria, commercial and business capital. bola, i'm a tenable, is credited with transforming league of state and restructuring its economy. the governing party flag bearer says he wants to replicate this at the national level. security economy, foreign policy, the secondary building relationship, given the other country assurance, bolivia, the sanctity of contract. both till one would be our meeting the most of a believe by some nigerians at the presidency should head south after being held by a northerner for 8 years. supporters of the former vice president t global wicker say nigeria, democracy must not be defined by a regional sentiment, a retired customs officer. mister booker is

a successful businessman with interests in manufacturing, in service industries. he wasn't available for interview the manifest, just an ideology of all the political parties are similar. but there are at least new contenders for the presidency. which in itself could make politicians in africa, most populous country, more accountable to their voters. how many edris al jazeera, a butcher? ah. okay, let's talk to, i guess, well johnny, me in lagos is cassius belo than a political analyst, and broadcaster who heads kilo africa news emitter. greene is hassan amena, a special assistant on sustainable development goals for the people's democratic party. thank you very much. indeed for joining us on our jazeera and i would like to start with kasey bargain, please. there are 93500000 registered voters in nigeria. our nigerian voters actually enthusiastic about these elections. thank you for me. on the so i

absolutely, i dreams already. you know, the be a look at for tool that day for the seats february. so much are waiting to cut their boat are probably think that yes, we can have a new government in nigeria. you know, anything that has to do with lexia about and bought a new receipt. so they're looking for del ray b and b or, and to see us think about it as we speak. hussle my in our, your special advisor to article i will back are now he has been part of the nigerian political process for many years, given the fight. the nigerians apparently are looking for change. is he actually in a position to be able to do that, given the fact that some people might say he is part of the problem rather than part of the solution. and we're looking at what's happening and humans are clamoring for change of the situation that we found ourselves in this country. and

then this is tate of great depression that we have found ourselves. and you know, you can attribute it to last. it is after current william patsy. today our point is, is, you know, there has helped more when, for instance, schools in the border get by income by state in so many young people from doing business. and you know, there are so many policies that this government have introduced that has gotten people that has invited the middle class. so what we now have is to return the call to reach versus the part of each and the point in the country. so people are clamoring for the change of their situation and not necessarily a change in phase, because if you look at all of the content that are context and to become president, they've all been around for a while. and they have also how to different positions in different a it is but also lend usaa especially young benjamins and also

with an engineer. they are looking at someone that has been there and has done it before and look at, you know, the facts at there. look at it and see when, who are the vice president of the country. and he was also the head of the economic team and look at the great book that angela has experienced during that time. i saw many of us went at, went to a peak of that because at this moment it was on just was also got into the understanding that the problem is that men, gina is so deep rooted that you cannot begin to unravel it. and so in the day and as such, that is why, you know, his excellency needs someone of experience is the best person that can do the job at this very moment that we're all clamoring for change. i'm able to to say that we can bring in ru, oh, do he's the national spokesperson for the to campaign? that's from the i'll progressives congress on behalf of bala. i meant to no good sir. thank you very much. indeed for being with us. the candidate, terrible, i'm

a turnover is said to carry a lot of influence in the south west, but he's 70 years old. how much do you think that he can relate to young people in nigeria? i mean when we took an age is, is a man of innovation has been very close to. ready all of the development. ready up in, on our own new country on the world at large it is very, very much in talk to present it is, is the man who introduced innovation a lot during his yes. as a common up there. got it. so i mean, he's very much in tor tongue. he been, it be without people. i mean, you see you mark up account specialties based on his track record is constantly in talk with young old i mean people from different diverse background on them. so shes, that of many is, is very tight to b, l e. at veri tax city, defendable,

grassy, passing by logan. we are talking about a country which has been for many years, right by violence. its economy is struggling. we heard asana my inner st. say that people are looking for a continuation of the same. are people really wanting more of the same violence and economic struggle that they have perhaps seen in the past? i understand about 40 percent of people are under 34 an hour and an unemployed. well, it suits some quite unfortunately, that the situation is like that. but um, i will see that the corridor, nutrition and rich, right? it's best up from the look of things. ah, we all know that when it comes to lead the sheet or you can do is to try to best, let's say, the fact that there are a lot of things that the governments can do better. because so

the best thing that can happen to nigerians is to have a great governance are but so for so i must see it's not a bad situation still because when you look at the whole thing, i always appreciate where we got things from a brother picked it up, but we can, we can conclude that a, well, it's not been, it is not been good. you know, we've been having leaks in no way that we can see but my duties will be happy to have a title government that will bring suckle tools. so a big challenge these i believe if the way things are now, or if government gets to, you know, money one way or the other, like the, the, the quality, what is these that the government's

a strange will bring to the people because to manage to work around it, but it's, it's not a basset. nigerians will be happy to have it on good, you know, um, you know, in a moment from now and we'll see let me ask you about the, the roller for peter over here who was formerly of the p d. p, but as now of the labor party, he seems to be collecting a lot of social media support. he seems to be getting a lot of support from young people ab, how do you see his role? and indeed that of robin was a mussa conquest. so of the new nigeria people's party was also a presidential candidate. is it or is there a chance that one of them, given that people are looking for change apparently? is that a chance that one of them could actually be, come president of the country and start essentially with a clean slate? or do you think that they are just going to serve to split the vote and fragment, the votes of the other candidates were full for the 2 little from now on sites

the be a popular, you know, ah, we tell we, ah, what on the popular don't try on their own best and i look up the they have all of it before. read them looking at the front. there are the you are, you know, really be in governance at the top level. are birds are the solution of and east east. some are difficult if you look at the big chance that we are the legs of a walker, the leg or not. but i mean to be the, the, the guys that we can call super week, you know, every week when it comes to politics. you know what, council? sure to be told be skin men so seriously. burt, me,

you know these guys the, the so called the attic when there are bulletin. i mean, this so strong from what size, you know, looking at the iranian boys are a strong guy. you know, and that was you are what the, the, the modernist, that are be toby, as rock east, strongest rock. and it goes within our certain areas within the let's see, ah, are puzzled and not a not a site and down our wisdom nigeria in my want to give a kind of a sympathy good for me. but i definitely i see a term it's more of a be a difficult being for those to back. but feel ah, what qualities to come out in a way you don't think bonnie, you know it might be before that. yeah. i know. i wonder, i want to ask you about terrible arm and a terrible of the of his see,

his slogan is emmy. look on, which i understand translates into. it's my turn. how tough is it gonna be for him to convince people that he should get the job just because it says he says he should. okay. it's not really tough sla, understand that that's been taken out of context and blown out of proportion, what it basically minutes. so, i mean, you at the time was talking to his party, delegates, whom he agrees into, to point to as to his investment in their people. is investment in politics in the defense of democracy in m a poor, the democracy of democratic or democratic principles, and support in other than it is with the glee. what he said was about is talk to, to getting a return, you know, some support is going to odessa and, i mean, it isn't really about that is my body's track record. i mean, there's not been any one among the candidates running who's glasgow to be that more

to in, in a fight for democracy or defense of democracy, coin, you know, progressive governance like what i met in a book legos. it like, um, i mean it's no one it's, it's been his data with potential but never really up until 19 i, when he became governor and it is been able to, you let the state and you know, toner out the economy, fortune of the state. that is good from been just one of the states and that you had to the 5th economy in africa and he's been on the study group since then. there's been consistent consistency in economy. good on them such as it goes, i mean these sin as many as nearly 25000000 insurance moving from different parts of the country into legos because it's, it's one stage where everyone can, you know, leave freely. are there any livid and go up? are the alleged is this is i want to be a last, so you are my, and i forgive me for interrupting you, but i do want to bring in hudson, am i in there? because obviously you were reacting to what

a you were saying. but i do want to make the point that article i back out, your candidate has lost the race for the present safe presidency 5 times already. and yet he still seems to think that is going to be able to do at this time what, what's different this time to the previous times. so what's different this time is because he is the person that is needed for the job. and he's not the 1st person to contact infections and become a president of the country. have contested elections about 4 times, you know, before he finally got infected into power. i think if that should show edit them, it just showed a power consistency that if the man at the level because you would agree with me to close it because the is a good thing. but i cannot help. but listen to me when he talks about he's candidate, i'm a to people, i'm a table and you know liberal has been as coded, live us. i wasn't not calling because i wasn't calling me. so i have lived in here and i think i have, i have the right to speak about legal and legal has been as pitts copico. they've

got have been meant us capital leg us particularly positioned in the way that it has caught. and it had so many opportunities to pull at s p p right now they've got congestive legacy one of the what places to live in and also the security illegal is not a great at the we want you to believe. and also, i think and also do you know, look at the tongue look at, you know, i probably caught, i'd be able to, i wouldn't want to speak about, you know, the antecedent of, you know, people, i'm, attainable, i feel like it's going to be fair to pay these to the international media. i'm not just talk about the things that he has achieved with all of the opportunities they've given out. work on that, you know, with a willing position. it should have been better than you know, there's room for it to be better than,

than what it is that well because it's below average at best, as i sort of thank you very much, but i want to get away from the kind of campaigning element of this cassie me, i want to talk about the state of democracy that there is a nigeria. we're talking about a situation now which is unusual. and nigeria, in that none of the candidates is already in poles to their none of them is an incumbent president, and none of them appears to be a former military leader. what difference do you think that is going to make to the state of democracy within nigeria? yeah, i think that is our opposite sebra. ah story. i must see. the afo nigeria, it's nice. it's are, are we have been them meet at the quality? she's ill. om animal mid from now. so m e, maggie's, so it's a, it's a good story for us, isn't us citizen arm a writer,

i messaged it nigeria as really, really come to that democratic process that we are talking about. we don't, we believe it's been a military kind of aberration. so what avenue these, they're dies from a bean or a business man and you know, coming into a proper w at a level of residency. it's a, it's a positive story for us. and a nigerians will be up before that we'll be looking at. that's why i see, you know, we'll be looking forward to that. i've been in one of them was coming from a different background, a corridor, residential or even do a once a return. so did e, don, i, what if would be great. we meet, we bring in the beat,

was that c o key from our own b as barbara from our bond background. tell me a secret that we want to channel in new for a new nigeria. so that address will be looking forward to our person as the president and i you are. do i want to ask you about your role as part of the a, b, c, a p c, rebirth group here. obviously focusing on the younger element within the a p c. what is it you're trying to achieve that? ok, i thought, you know, if you see was from 10 years ago as an moga mission of the cost, the 12th or the ticket parties which were busy, clear regina parties at the time. and i'm in the world. we go into a power. it has been a bit of challenges trying to, you know, embrace our ideal adjusted progressive party lloyd. look, look, really,

really now laid out. we have members of different background or not. so it, we, we seem to be, you know, i did time devitt in a bid from our call. you know, i do ology. and as the old people in the party, young people in the country who are members of the party were, i mean, we have the likes of i showed you, but i'm, it didn't go to look up to, i mean, a democrat and the progressive leader. and we thought it was right for to hold our lead us. we did a party accountable, and is sure that we, we abide by around close to, to shut out particles. to shana, abide by our own gateway, or provide liberal leave for every member of the party. at for eternal an excess on a contest. and that i thought the episode of beth was about done successfully were able to push for 2 conventions and then wonder, let to the air was called images of our national work committee. then the president up primary convention. i let i want to pick one, i forget me very much about you, but i want to pick you up on the point that you're at. that in fact, everybody appears to be making, which is that young people,

the votes of young people, are going to be key in this that this is something that is absolutely crucial to whether or not people succeed in the selection. and obviously earlier that you are representative of that i know high. so now you are a representative of that as well. earlier let me ask you this are bullet, i'm a tim untenable, given the fact he's 70 years old. if he becomes president, what are the chances? do you think that he is actually no matter how progressive he says he's gonna be one of the chances that he's actually going to be open to eager young people within his party trying to change things. i mean he surrounded by young people, the bulk of people doing the ground of 40. i young people i, his promised in his a manifesto to renewed who, you know, he is, is promised to hover night. busy cabinet positions for people between the age of 18 and 49. and i mean, he's talked about getting young people involved in leadership with that at this level and government level it,

we are very confident that he will do sin because while he was governor of legacy it, it brought a lot of your people clues or mental them most of them are nationally does not that we, we already correctly. busy governor of the gosti was an 8, a young man, cassim. let me ask you, i'm about to do this element of young people because i'm the, the bit of research that i've been doing seems to suggest that the influence of young people is going to be determined in terms of turned out in terms of, you know, if if there are, if there's a fewer to a lower turned out, but they are predominantly younger voters in certain candidates, are going to benefit from that. and how significant in this particular election, do you think is the vote of young people in the 1st instance work from the local team. so the young people get now are coming up, you know, gadri mean it's been a serious momentum when it comes to young people, you know, thinking that they need to do it right. this time different that you're

a great president. so via the more it front, the are ready, and i think this time around, the avoidance definitely comes out because these are, you can see from the look of things you haven't, these guys, you know, clean important rule from what it goes a long week on like before, but my tell them middle p, it's not, it's not, you know, your time going to do something, but then now played very, quite well to roll. you can see some of them, you know, now, you know, i've been a candidate so either it's a different ball game for the younger ones. and now looking at see a list that way the aren't and they're working. they're not joking this them around . i can see all the local things,

the super ready to bring that change that we are looking forward. so the boards will be very, very significant. this tamara, and also i want to ask you about the participant participation of women, how much of an impact or the votes of women to have in the selection i feel women are becoming more politically involved in the elections. and then julia, and i think that thanks to you so much in 5, i mean with as gender equality and bill work that local and g o and national and you have been doing to says parents who went on the importance of getting involved . and also i think women have also seen that been involved in politics despite its challenges, is the only way to get heard in this democratic setting that we found ourselves. so i think the movements participate in politics is great, but then when it comes to women elected leaders, that's where the problem,

you know, that's where the problem is. because at the same time we keep seeing that less and less men contest to be cook context for elected positions. and that is what that is, what we some i think it just goes back to speak to the difficult, kevin, that women find themselves in whenever dimension and politics cousin, just very briefly, we only have a few seconds left. let me ask you, given everything that you are seeing about the way that this election is being campaigned for on what nigeria has been over a lot been through over the last few years. do you think we're going to see a different nigeria in about 2 years time? very briefly, if you could absolutely things who will get better. i'm very optimistic whatsoever my these things will get better. i'm optimistic, nigeria, we be a great country because that is what people are looking for. you know, we have some challenges, but i, you know, the best that can happen to roger the countries to go out there,

give all courts to the right back to that next level. a country like ours the, you know, the change we can meet. so we, they do is going to be better in the next few years, 6 months a year, or let's see that $2000.00 and thank you very much indeed for that. i apologize for interrupting you. unfortunately, of course, time is against us, but thank you very much indeed. and i see you and thanks to our other 2 guest hassan m i n a. and i'll you, i'll do and thank you to you too. for watching. you can see the program again, any time by visiting our website. i'll do xerox dot com for further discussion. go to a facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a insight story for me, rob matheson and the whole team here. bye for now. ah

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