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pacific. one o one east. on out jazeera who will be nigeria, snacks, leader, voters in africa, most populous country, are about to elect a new president and a new national assembly. but what's a plate this time around? that is democracy, strengthening in nigeria. this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm rob matheson on saturday voters in nigeria go to the polls to elect a new president, but africa's largest democracy at its biggest economy has been suffering more violence is that ballot approaches. several police officers have been killed in the last few days in separate attacks by suspected rebels in the southeast and
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a senate candidate from the opposition labor party was shot dead late on wednesday by unknown assailants in southeastern, in new state. with nigeria as dead rising, and taxis failing to raise enough cash or how much bahati successor is going to face tough financial constraints. 18 candidates on the ballot but for are getting the most attention because of their chances to win or forced themselves into a run off on the digits, reports from a boucher oh, pita gregory or be a former governor of our number state is the youngest at the front runners to be nigeria, next president. his campaign message seems to resonate with young voters who say they are tired of the politics of the world. oh, we want to secure and unite. nigeria went to class from nigeria form is presidents cost the cost consumption to
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productive launch. a successful businessman, he broke away from the party that made him governor, and one that chose you must a presidential running mate to lead the neighbor parties. presidential campaign. rebel was a congress a has a similar shift from the major parties to one that doesn't control any legislature or state then and p p candidate is a for my defense minister and was governor of nigeria. second was popular state county for 8 years. the election now is between the big names who have destroyed this country and people who are looking for an alternative. the 2010 to 3 election isn't business as usual. the 2 new contenders and their supporters believe they can and see the governing party. just like in 2015, when the opposition won, the opponent say they can only divert votes from the main political parties. some analysts expect the to, to force or run off and with skilful negotiations when,
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or even decide who becomes president this is amanda jones opposition is trying to stop. a former governor of nigeria, commercial and business capital bola material is credited with transforming league of state and restructuring its economy. the governing party flight barrow says he wants to replicate this at the national level. security economy foreign policy, the secondary building relationship, given the other country assurance believing the sanctity of contract both to any one or b. r, meeting the most of a believe by some nigerians of the presidency. should head south after being held by a northerner for 8 years. a supporters of the former vice president t global wicker say nigeria, democracy must not be defined by a regional sentiment. a retired customs officer. miss double wicker is
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a successful businessman with interests in manufacturing. in service industries, he wasn't available for interview the manifest, just an ideology of all the political parties are similar. but there are at least new content as for the presidency, which in itself could make politicians in africa, most populous country, more accountable to their voters. how many degrees al jazeera abode? yeah. ah. okay, let's talk to i guess. well, johnny me in lagos is cassius belo than a political analyst, and broadcaster who heads callow africa news in meadow green is hassan amena, a special assistant on sustainable development goals for the people's democratic party. thank you very much. indeed for joining us on al jazeera and i would like to start with kasey bargain please. there are 93500000 registered voters in nigeria, our nigerian voters, actually enthusiastic about these elections. thank you for me on the so i'm
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absolutely, i dreams already. you know, the be a look at for tool that day for the seats are february, so much are waiting to cut their boat are probably think that yes, we can have a new government in nigeria. you know, anything that has to do with lessons about and bought a new receipt. so they're looking for delray b and b or and to see us think about it as we speak. hussle my in a, your special advisor to article i will back are now he has been part of the nigerian political process for many years, given the fight. the nigerians apparently are looking for change. is he actually in a position to be able to do that, given the fact that some people might say he is part of the problem rather than part of the solution. and we're looking at what's happening and humans are clamoring for change of the situation that we found ourselves in this country. and
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then this is tate of great depression that we have found ourselves. and you know, you can attribute it to last. it is after current william patsy to the point is, is, you know, there has helped more when, for instance, schools in the border get by income by state in so many young people from doing business. and you know, there are so many policies that this government have introduced that has gotten people that has invited the middle class. so what we now have is to return the call to reach versus the part of each and the point in the country. so people are clamoring for the change of their situation and not necessarily a change in phase, because if you look at all of that to be contest and that are destined to become president, they've all been around for a while. and they have also how to different positions in different a it is but also lend usaa especially young benjamins and also
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with an engineer. they are looking at someone that has been there and has done it before and look at, you know, the facts at there. look at it and see when, who are the vice president of the country. and he was also the head of the economic team and look at the great book that angela has experienced during that time. i saw many of us went at, went to a peak of that because at this moment it was on just was also got into the understanding that the problem, dementia is so deep rooted, that you cannot begin to unravel it. and so in the day and as such, that is why, you know, his excellency be someone of experience is the best person that can do the job at this very moment that we're all clamoring for change. i'm able to to say that we can bring in ru, oh, do he's the national spokesperson for the to campaign that's from the i'll progressive congress on behalf of bala. i meant to no good sir. thank you very much . indeed for being with us. the candidate, terrible, i'm
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a turnover is said to carry a lot of influence in the southwest, but he's 70 years old. how much do you think that he can relate to young people in nigeria? i mean, when we took her age is minova. innovation has been very close to all of the development happening in our own country on the world at large. it's very, very much in talk to present day is, is the man who introduced innovation a lot during his yes. as a common up there. got it. so, i mean, he's very much in court and he's been imbued out people of me. you mock up or tell specialties based on his track record is constantly in talk with young old army people from different diverse background on them. so shasta thought that many is, is very tough to reality. at veri tax city, we defended progressing. cachimba,
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logan. we are talking about a country which has been for many years right by violence. its economy is struggling. we heard asana my inner say say that people are looking for a continuation of the same. are people really wanting more of the same violence and economic struggle that they have perhaps seen in the past? i understand about 40 percent of people are under 34 an hour and an unemployed. well, it suits some quite fortunately that the situation is like that. but um, i will see that the corridor, nutrition and rich, right. it's best off from the look of things. ah, we all know that when it comes to lead the sheet or you can do is to try to best, let's say, the fact that there are a lot of things that the governments can do better. because so
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the best thing that can happen to nigerians is to have a great governance ah, but so for so i must see it's not a bad situation still because when you look at the whole thing, i always appreciate where we got things from a brother picked up, but we can, we can conclude that a, well, it's not been it's, it's not been good. you know, we've been having leaks in no way that we can see but my duties will be happy to have a title government that will bring suckle tools. so a big challenge these i believe if the with things are now, or if government can still, you know, money one way or the other, like the, the, the quality, what is these that the government's
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a strange will bring to the people because to manage to work around it, but it's, it's not a basset. nigerians will be happy to have it on good, you know, on not a, not moment from the embassy. let me ask you about the, the role of peter over here who was formerly of the p d p. but as now of the labor party, he seems to be collecting a lot of social media support. he seems to be getting a lot of support from young people ab, how do you see his role? and indeed that of robin was a mussa conquest. so of the new nigeria people's party was also a presidential candidate. is it or is there a chance that one of them, given that people are looking for change apparently? is that a chance that one of them could actually be come president of the country and start essentially with a clean slate or do you think that they are just going to serve to split the vote and fragment, the votes of the other candidates? wow, football for the 2 middle from now all sides the be the popular, you know,
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ah, we tell we, ah, what on the popular and then try on their own best. and then i look up the, they have all of it before read them, look into the fund. there are the you are, you know, really be in governance at the top level. are burnt up, the situation of and east, east. some are difficult if you look at the big challenge that we are the legs over to walker the leg or not. but i mean to be the, the, the guys that we can call super week, you know, every week or when it comes to politics. you're welcome. so sure to be toby east in it, momentum seriously burnt the truck to meet, you know, these guys the,
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the so called the attic when there are bulletin. i mean, this so strong from what size, you know, looking that the iranian boys are a strong guy. you know, and that was you are what the, the, the mother miss will i be toby as rock east, strongest rock and it goes within a certain areas within the less c r, tuttleton, modern or a site and down are western nigeria in my want to give a kind of a sympathy good for me, but definitely i see a term it's more on well it's gonna be a difficult being for those to back. but feel our quality come out in a way you don't think bonnie you know it might be before that. yeah. i know, i wonder, i want to ask you about terrible on. i did
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a terrible of the p. c. his slogan is emmy, look on, which i understand translates into. it's my turn. how tough is it going to be for him to convince people that he should get the job just because it says he says he should. okay, it's not really tough sla, while i understand that does been taken out of context and blown out of proportion . what it basically minutes. i mean you at the time was talking to his party delegates, whom he al, reason to, to point to as to his investment in their people. is investment in politics, in the defense of democracy in them are poor the democracy of democratic who democratic principles and support in others than it is with the glee what he said was about is told to, to getting a return, you know, some support is going to odessa and i mean, it, it is really about that is my part is track record. i mean, there's not been any one among the candidates running who's glasgow to be that more
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to in, in a fight for democracy or defense of democracy coin, you know, progressive governance. like, while i met in a book, legos, it like, um, i mean it's known it's, it's been his data with potential but never really up until night and i, when he became governor and it is been able to, he let the state on, you know, toner out the economy, fortune of the state that is good from being just one of the states in adhere to the 5th economy in africa. and he's been on the study group since then. there's been consistent consistency in economy. good on them such as it goes, i mean these sin, as many as nearly 25000000 insurance move it from different parts of the country and totally goes because it's, it's one state where everyone can, you know, leave freely and there any livid and m club ideology is, this is i want to be last week. my and i forgive me for interrupting you, but i do want to bring in hudson, am i in there? because obviously you were reacting to what
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a you were saying. but i do want to make the point that article i back out, your candidate has lost the race for the present safe presidency 5 times already. and yet he still seems to think that he's gonna be able to do it this time. what, what's different this time to the previous times? so what's different this time is because he is the person that is needed for the job. and he's not the 1st person to contact infections and become a president of the country has contested elections about 4 times. you know, before he finally got infected into power, i think if that should show edit them, it just showed the power that is the man at the level because you would agree with me because it is a good thing. but i cannot help. but listen to me when he talks about his candidate, while i'm a to people i'm attainable and you know, legal has been as, as called in the us. i wasn't not calling because i wasn't calling me. so i have lived in here and i think i have, i have the right to speak about legal and legal has been pitts copico. they've got,
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have been meant us, capitol live, particularly positioned in the way that it has caught. and it had so many opportunities to either speak to you right now got congestive legacy, one of the what places to live in and also the security illegal is not a great actor would want you to believe. and also, i think and also did you know, kind of tug look at, you know, which i probably caught at b as well. when do you want to speak about, you know, the anticipated of, you know, people, i'm attainable, i feel like it's going to be bad to pay these to the international media. i'm not just talk about the things that he has achieved with all of the opportunities they've given out work on that, you know, with the willing to position. it should have been better and then you know, there is room for it to be better than,
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than what it is that well because it's below average at best, as i sort of thank you very much, but i want to get away from the kind of campaigning element of this seem, i want to talk about the state of democracy that there is a nigeria. we're talking about a situation now which is unusual. and nigeria in that none of the candidates is already in poles to their none of them is an incumbent president. and none of them appears to be a former military leader. what difference do you think that is going to make to the state of democracy within nigeria? yeah, i think that is our opposite cba ah story m a c or a from a julia. it's a great needs are, are we are, have been the meet at the quality. she's ill arm any moment from now. so evan emerges. so it's a, it's a good story for us is on us sickness, a right? tell our message. it's nigeria as really come to that democratic process
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that we're talking about. we don't, we believe it in a military kind of aberration. so, adam, these, there dies from a bean or a business man. and, you know, coming into our proper, got you at a level of the residency. it's a, it's a positive story for us and, and i will be up before that we'll be looking at. that's why i see, you know, we'll be looking forward to other stuff. i've been in one of them was coming from a different background, a corridor residential, or even do a once a return. so did e don, i wonder if would be great if we bring in the beat was that 10
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c o key from our own b as barbara from our bond background. tell me a secret that we want to channel in new for a new nigeria. so that address will be looking forward to our person as the president and i you are. do i want to ask you about your role as part of the a, b, c, a p c, rebirth group here. obviously focusing on the younger element within the p. c. what is it you're trying to achieve that? okay, i thought, you know, if you see was from 10 years ago as amalgamation of the cost, the 20 for the 2 parties which are busy, clear regional parties at the time. and i mean, while we go into a power, it has been a bit of challenges trying to, you know, in breeza ideology as the progressive party lloyd look, look with the woody. no,
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later we have members of different background or not. so did we, we seem to be, you know, i did time devitt in a bid form. our call, you know, i do ology and as your people in the party, young people in the country who are members of the party were, i mean we have the likes of, i showed you, but i'm, it didn't go to look up to a minute democrat on the progressive leader, and we thought it was right for to hold our lead us. we did it party accountable, and is sure that we abide by my own constitution. i'll party costs to shana, abide by our own gateway. provide level playing field for every member of the party at for eternal and excess on a contest. and that's what the ip pursued a bit was about on successfully, were able to push for 2 conventions and then wonder let to d l or the call. you might just about national committee, then the president's up primary convention. i let, i want to pick you on. i forgive me for interrupting you, but i want to pick you up on the point that you're at. that in fact, everybody appears to be making, which is that young people,
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the votes of young people, are going to be key in this that this is something that is absolutely crucial to whether or not people succeed in the selection. and obviously earlier that you are representative of that i know. hi. so now you are a representative of that as well. earlier let me ask you this are bullet, i'm a tim untenable, given the fact he's 70 years old. if he becomes president, what are the chances? do you think that he is actually no matter how progressive he says he's gonna be one of the chances that is actually going to be open to eager young people within his party trying to change things? i mean, he's surrounded by young people. the book of, if we're doing the ground of 14 a young people i, he's promised in his a manifesto you renewed who, you know, he is, is promised to have a nice cabinet positions for people between the age of 18 and 49. and i mean, he's talked about getting young people involved in leadership with that artist level and government level it. we are very confident that he would do sin because
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while he was governor of legacy it, it brought a lot of your people clues and mental them. most of them are nationally does not that we, we already correctly got one of the got it was on a young man. cassim. let me ask you about the this element of young people, because i'm the, the bit of research that i've been doing seems to suggest that the, the influence of young people is going to be determined in terms of turned out in terms of, you know, if, if there are, if there's a few or to a lower turnout, but they are predominantly younger voters in certain candidates are going to benefit from that. and how significant in this particular election, do you think is the vote of young people in the 1st instance work from the local team. so the young people get now are coming. not gadri. mean, it's been a single momentum when it comes to young people, you know, thinking that they need to do it right, this time different that you're
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a great president. so via the more it front the are ready and i think are this time around. the avoidance definitely comes up because div, you can see from the look of things you haven't, these guys are playing important role from what it goes a long week, unlike before. but my tell them middle p, it's not, it's not, you know, your time going to do something, but then now played very, quite well to roll. you can see some of them, you know, now, you know, i've been organizations, you know, a candidate. so either it's a different ball game for the younger ones and now looking at see a list the all by the aren't and they're working. they're not so joking this them around. i can see all the local things,
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the super ready to bring that change that we are looking forward. so the boards will be very, very significant. this tamara, and also i want to ask you about the participant participation of women, how much of an impact or the votes of women to have in the selection i feel women are becoming more politically involved in the elections. and then julia, i think that thanks to a 5 year old as gender equality and bill work that local n g o and national and jules have been doing to says pendulum and on the importance of getting involved. and also i think women have also seen that been involved in politics despite its challenges. the only way to get heard in this democratic setting that we found ourselves. so i think the movements, but especially politics is great. but when it comes to women elected leaders, that's where the problem, you know,
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that's where the problem is. because at the same time we concede that less and less men contest to be cook contest for elected positions. and that is why that is why we so i think it just goes back to speak to the difficult time in the women find in the so the whenever dimension and politics causing just very briefly, we only have a few seconds left. let me ask you, given everything that you are seeing about the way that this election is being campaigned for on what nigeria has been over the lot been through over the last few years. do you think we're going to see a different nigeria in about 2 years time? very briefly, if you could absolutely. teams who will get better. i'm very optimistic whatsoever. maggie's teams will get better. i'm optimistic, nigeria, we'd be a great country because that is what people are looking for. you know, we have some talent, but i, you know, the best that can happen. rather the countries go out there,
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go to the right back in the cost. so that's a country like ours the, you know, the change we can meet. so we, they do is going to be better in the next few years, 6 months, a year or less the that to me and thank you very much indeed for that. i bought apologize for interrupting you. unfortunately, of course time is against us, but thank you very much indeed. and i see you and thanks to our other 2 guest house and m i n a. and as you do and thank you to you too for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll do 0 dot com for further discussion. go to a facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a insight story for me, rob matheson and the whole team here. bye for now. ah
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