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this is al jazeera and these are our top story. see, israeli army has rated the acrobat java refugee camp in the occupied west bank and attained to palestinians. it accuses of killing and he's really american. on monday, the raids in jericho continue despite meetings between israeli and palestinian leaders to help deescalate the tension need a brain has more from jericho in the occupied westbank palestinians with tell you that the situation hasn't been getting any better. in fact, with the right wing is really government taking power in israel. the situation has been getting worse and worse for palestinians. they say that the illegal is ready supplement is expanding. the nightly rates are expanding and even when news surfaced of some understanding between the palestinian authority and israel to meet enjoyed in 2 days after that. these really forces rated nablus and killed 11 palestinians in one read which shows the level of escalation. the greek prime
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minister has visited the site of the worst reign accident in the country's history . at least 36 people died when a congo train collided with a passenger train tuesday night. the government has declared 3 days of national morning by jerry as governing party candidate bullet t mobile has been declared the winner of saturdays presidential election. the opposition labor party is amount that will mount a legal challenge over the result. after calling the process a sham survivors and relatives have paid their respects to the 67 people who died in the ship right off the coast of italy. on sunday, italian authorities have arrested 3 people and are looking for a for suspects who they believe, attempted to traffic up to 200 migrants on the boat. thinking from to be you, commission president, to call on the block to work together to reform migration loss. and rushes foreign minister has held tom with his indian count upon ahead of a meeting between g 20 foreign ministers. india continues to purchase russian oil
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as many western nations have placed sanctions on moscow because of its invasion of ukraine. and those are the headlines on al jazeera, more news coming up after the stream to stay with us. talk the law will. the law, when with neither side, willing to negotiate is the ukraine war becoming a forever war. is america's global leadership, increasingly fragile. what will u. s. politics look like as we had to the presidential election of 2024. the quizzical look us politics, the bottom line with . welcome to the stream, not much of a dean. asylum seekers in temporary accommodation in the u. k. are living in fear following a string of protest calling for the removal with far right groups exploiting local grievances to boost their own agenda. today we look at the abuse and intimidation
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of vulnerable people are experiencing and ask what can be done to keep them safe? aah! joining us today from london, diane taylor, a journalist at the guardian, who writes on human rights racism and civil liberties fees are cressy chief executive officer at migrants, right? network and n g o advocating for migrants and refugees. she's in london. and sophia con roof a researcher at hope, not hate. who has examined far right groups across europe. of course, you can also join today's discussion, just send us your comments and questions through our live you to chat. so few, i want to ask you so many different angles here, so many things to discuss. what's the headline here for you, based on your reporting? so the research i would, sam paying the most attention to right now is how, how it's escalating, how the number of, for example, fall, right?
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activists who go to hotels to harass asylum seekers have doubled between 20212022. so 102 percent increase, this kind of shows how important that part of their work is for, for i talk to this and it really works. this is the thing that gives them the views and helps them spread tension into the local community. so one of the, one of that tactics is going into a local community and spreading leaflets, you know, with rumors about not room as stereotypes and conspiracy theories about fighting age. men coming for you know, to harm and can not pure white goals. and that sort of rhetoric. so i would, i would definitely say that's an important headline. and as you were speaking there, we were looking at a map that showed just how much this has been proliferating and sort of spreading across the u. k. we also have there is the map, as you can see, i think in just
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a year, i mean 100 percent, maybe 500 percent increase in certain areas. i mean it's how can you, can he actually was looking at this, just all those dots for our audience. i mean, this is not an isolated issue, right? no, but we have to, as you said, keep it in context. so a 102 percent increase the other huge tech, the number that's the increase of fall right? activists going to these are, you know, as asylum seeker, a comment accommodation, running, stop harassing the asylum seekers pretending to be, you know, local journalist or, you know, trying all sorts of different methods, right. but they're relatively few. i mean, in the grand scheme of things, they're relatively few people doing this. you know, for example, a big increase in number is a woman named amanda smith who goes around doing this and she visited a 124 hotels in the last year. and then these videos of then spread online in
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anti migrant groups, you know, fall right groups. and that, that's the part where there's, you know, a huge amount of misinformation room is going on and a small number people impacting or having a much wider impact on line. i know. 5 you also mentioned those leaflets, diana, i want to share with our audience this one. for example, people accusing the tory party and these 4 right extremist groups of kind of using the same language. if you will hear saying stop the invasion as you can see, they're in yellow saying they must act now calling for people to go protest, of course, that language, stop the invasion coming straight out of the mouth of a certain politicians. i just want to ask you, diane, i mean, reporting on this consistently as you have, how would you frame this in terms of the crossover between the far right politicians and the media sort of in inflaming this situation?
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will certainly the, the current home secretaries to our brother, mine has been criticized of using inflammatory language such as the word invasion, referring to the asylum seekers who arrived in the u. k. on small, but as he say that the same language that the far right to using but what, what we're not seeing from mainstream politicians is any very strong rebuttal of, of what the far right to doing. and that's concerning the far right. i've gotten the very active at the moment, but that have always been around and what, what we need is for our mainstream plantations to put forward acura factual narrative,
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which put the numbers arriving into context and, and debug the conflation all yeah. to the far right. keep continually thoughtful, right? and i want to talk about more what they're actually complaining about specifically before we do that, i'd be remiss not to ask you and to share with our audience, sort of what it's like when these protests happen. so take a look at just to give you a sense really of what it looks like. this is far right. protesters outside a hotel for asylum seekers in nose li, just outside of liverpool. take a look. oh no, i need a
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drop off with if i'm not mistaken because i fear shaking your head there but, but is this sentiment directed towards muslims in particular? i mean talk a little bit about the intersectionality of this phenomenon. yeah, i would say that that's been missing from the narratives as well, even from the migrate and refugees that to really know understanding that targeting islam a phobia play you have to kind of ongoing under terrorism agenda that you know, prevent in itself. i think the majority of the people in some of the hotels are men. they're single men. they have to be for muslim majority countries. and so it's very easy for the far right to use a narrative of sufferers. you mention men coming fighting men. but
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also there is a mis lama, sophia, kind of narrative on the underlying that. i think what's really fighting, i'm shaking my head because i can't imagine and being stuck inside a space where you've come to get safety and sanctuary. and then you'll present all your stuff again and i'm speaking to someone who's been supporting refugees in coastal talent and she said the fear that they, they have questioning why they've come to the u. k. now, why come here? wait for them? see? so really and so, and you know, times for them and this is on top of them having to deal with issues like the earthquake in syria also, you know, having to contemplate, well, i've got this happening here on my doorstep. and i've got to think of right, right. what's happening with my, with my family and friends. so yeah, it's really worrying. and as i said like, there isn't not rebuttal,
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it's not coming from the government for sure. but it's also not really coming from the opposition, and that's really worrying when we don't have any really pick. anyone really champing kind of refugees right and challenging what the fall roy. and i see sophia says that you want to jump in the fly. go ahead. yeah, go ahead. no. at 1st. no, no, please. you're here to import your wisdom with us. go ahead. i don't know about the wisdom. this is just me saying this is absolutely right. when it comes to, when she was talking about this, this fear that the asylum seekers are having in the hotels when these types of protest happen. i think communication is such an important part of this whole issue or more like the lack of communication. so, you know, within the migration sector it's very difficult because these are kind of new, uncertain times in terms of the rise of the far right activity. government really
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has to do a lot more in terms of safeguards. and in terms of, you know, being very bad at communicating with, you know, the locals in the, in the area. and this all kind of creates the situations we saw in that video right then. and there are so many more videos i want to get to. but if you want to ask you as well, some of the comments coming in on you tube of from peter carson, for example, saying it's costing the u. k. taxpayer, 35000000 british pounds a week to house them in hotels. we have good as pittman saying, are they really far right and fascists or simply concerned locals that have had enough of the illegal entries? what it, what is your reaction to that fizzle? i am really wearing every one, again, pooled into the same trap on the same narrative, right? it's about absolutely. we don't feel that anyone should be housed. it's not how big
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house in the hotel you'll be in accommodated these homes that they're creating. that being forced to live, forced to live, that they don't have control over where they get sent, how long they going to be there. and for people to say, oh, are they really? there is a mix of people being boston to these towns to create these love. so the father and mobilizing what they're doing is they all as they've done historically, is mobilizing fluency, the disenfranchised right. that people feel forgotten. so maybe by, by the u. k. and particularly after break that, sorry, i don't want to put words in your mouth, but in my mind, i'm wondering, you know, does break that factor into this? absolutely. i mean, do you remember the posters that nigel fraud was kind of sunday next to which was like creams of men and they were brown and black men and saying that this is what
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would happen if we continue to how freedom of movement. basically the, the issue that we have, it's not race to talk about immigration, right? so that's why you can pick on refuse, because it's not visual about refugee policies or talk about people in legal illegals. if you are doing this against racialize community is it seems to be that the state goes for the moment. suffer. go ahead. yeah, sorry, i can't help but jumped in again. just about those comments, which i think a very important comments because that common style being asked a lot online due to the way things have been framed within the media within politics. but the locals have genuine concerns and they're competing the completion. it concerns based on, you know, the poll communication, how things have been carried out, you know, often suddenly assigned them because i just being put into hotels that you know,
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that they had middle of mission happening. and it can be worrying. and you know, all of that is very true, but that doesn't negate the fact that the far right are trying to exploit that are trying to parachute into these communities create. and from that uncertainty from, from those concerns create tension and hate. and i mean, it just takes one person, i mean, in the, in october we had andrew leak, who is the guy who threw petrol bombs as a michael processing center. so this, and he, he was consuming a huge amount of far right material and anti migrant right. of this material, right? so it just takes one person in that kind of rhetoric and severe, you know, you know, please please, but i may very quickly just, i want to get someone else's voice in here who is one of those people we've been describing who have those grievances, perhaps even legitimate concerns, like many others, but it's again the way this has been communicated and sort of misinformation. so
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let's take a listen to one angry local woman. i'd rather take a listen. i have to leave my out the yes because i got to pay for them to be a to get more money to do what they don't have to do with 111112 year old. now, diana, i know sophia, you want to jump in here. so we'll go to you and then to diane, because he hasn't spoken in a while. and i want to ask you, diane, what you make of all that information that's being spewed and what the danger is there. but sophia, sophia, sorry, i will be very quick. i just want to say this video perfectly encapsulates the conspiracy theories and the,
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the type of rhetoric far right anti migrant activists are spreading online. i mean, the videos they share, you know, trying to harass staff and assign them seekers. it's all about comparing it to the homeless people in the u. k. comparing it to the cost of living crisis saying look there in 5 star hotels, look at those new bites. who gave this to them and then comparing it to how people are struggling, you know, local british people. yeah. so i just want to say that video was perfectly made the point. and then what do you think about video? yeah, i say i'm, it's very concerning. no, no factual basis for what the woman was saying that there are 2 troops that the far right to repeating over and over again. at the moment. one is the asylum seekers of stealing the homes of british veterans who a forced to sleep on the streets because asylum seekers are stealing their homes.
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that's completely factually incorrect every semester and has an entitlement to housing the funds he has don't have the 2nd. in fact, she incorrect point is about sexual abuse perpetrated by mail asylum seekers against white british girls. usually girls who are under the age of 18 and we've, we've seen repeated examples. why will i fact propose there's facts where the forward has been pushed out and then collapsed and, and found to have no factual basis. well, what happened in the case of knows me well of around the strange video clip was circulated? allegedly, a white school girl being propositioned by. yeah. we can, we actually have,
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if you want to look on my screen right here, this is on twitter. as you can see, forgive me. this is, i think the video that you're referring to a young man and knows the outside the speed. so tell, approaching a 15 year old girl. again, these kinds of things are, are fodder for, for driving. a lot of these mentality is obviously, it's not something that i guess i don't want to get bogged down in this. and i don't want to just over share all these videos that we have, but i do think it might be helpful for us to look at this one video from. i believe this is be at a far right group that we've been talking about at a dunstable meeting. this is from twitter showing a member of the far a group of patriotic alternative, sort of taking the my mike and i'm yet a meeting of, of local residents kind of, um, yes, sounding some alarms take a lesson now don't take us for fools. when you say that these paper refugees, we know they are illegal migrants. if these people are refugees,
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what do they fling from? it's very telling that we never told what they are fleeing from of a flame from what countries are they coming from? what are they fleeing? what persecution? so fizz. i'm curious, you know that line. i've heard it in the u. s. and the u. k. all over the world really well, are they really fleeing and is there a war? i mean, even in our youtube chat right here, take a look at us. lion junior, echoing some of what we heard from that far, i remember saying who are these people, the immigrants, what country are they from mainly and the u. k. economy is in good right. now for many form, foreigners sorta questioning why they're there and where they're coming from, what you make of, of what the far at member was trying to do there at that, at that protest. i mean that, that the stereotyping and their base in china with hate and they're trying to raise basically what the u. k. government has been involved in the past. you know,
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we have a number of rules that we've participated in afghanistan and iraq. that's where people are coming from, where we've also been involved involved for example. that's where people the thing fleeing from. we would also say people are seeing from the negative coating in this area and isn't. this isn't a yes. so the data is there, it's not difficult to find the homework, very transparent about where people come from and they have high acceptance rate. so i think it's like, yeah, i'm in syria, eritrea stone and libya. that's where people are coming from. i think what i wanted to really ask is a fee. i mentioned know that people have the judgment concerns and more pounds about people coming into the household. and i'd like to understand what this concerns, all right? because it very much mimics historically when brown and black people moving into white majority areas, the same on grade and how wifes like, you know,
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came and came about. and so i, you know, what isn't that, isn't it based on your racism? i appreciate you making that connection. i think too often things are conflated or at least perceptions can dictate a person's reality. too often we've seen that maybe get the better of a lot of people and because we've been talking about the mainstreaming of sort of, how can we put an anti brown and black or anti immigrant sentiment? i do want to share a clip from january, featuring someone who were calling hi arthur, who is, it's not her real name. i should say she's in the silent speaker from eritrea, and she talks about the difficulties that she's encountered. take a listen. every day i spend the morning and i use it, pulls a home in the hotel. i see the earliest day. no thing to do. nothing.
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no school, no home, no wor, no anything. sometimes i see in my fall on facebook or that in you tube i see is in use and it does get to is not good for the lucy g. other the people that for me not good severe. what can be done? i mean, what should be prioritized by the government, by others in the country to actually protect not just asylum seekers, but sort of tried to limit and contain a lot of this hate speech. so i feel some of the things have been touched upon already, but generally language is very important. so as, as we talked about, the home secretary using the word invasion to talk about asylum seekers and migrants. this is, you know, the type of language we see within the far, right? so there's this inflammatory language that's been used within sections of,
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you know, the politicians by in the media. definitely something that needs to drastically improve in how we discuss this issue because it is an issue the country is very interested in, and i have to ask also, you know, looking at these sort of headlines, care storm or says there's a case for gps tagging on some asylum seekers, of course, i know a coalition of charities warned that this policy would amount to psychological torture. but, but just the fact that this is where the conversation is, what do you think is missing here? i mean, is the government and police forces? are they taking the far right threat seriously? and when you see these sort of considerations of tagging people, what does it tell you about that? how they're trying to approach this problem as amendment tells me that there's no to the only people in attempting my migrant refugees. right. so those. busy in the
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rules so you know, members of the public doesn't really feel like the opposition understand the implications and the impact some. busy suggestions have, like, as you said, targeting is an appalling, it's almost like a criminalization of migration of seeking refugee status and protection. surely where often people to come here to the country, not penalize for having chosen the u. k. for that, i want to just echo like sophia, she said, the language has to be talent, and i mean, i'm going to plug i was master campaign, which is doing exactly based on picking all a language that we have have as in all migration. now it says on the phone, king, those trying to offering alternatives. and what we need is really the opposition politicians to take that seriously and think about the consequences of that was
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really, you know, those words really do. and again, a stuffy pointed out the the toggle, i think that they pack in, you know, the question detention center was a key example of how soon as you say and run and electric. it has, hasn't an a consequence in an action on it could be deadly. my sir, i'm just jump in again. we're running out of time. see it in 30 seconds. please go ahead. i'll take less, hopefully, just one. we're talking about language. it's and who says what be interesting to point out, just a bit of context for the man who was speaking in the patriotic al tentative clip in the church. i mean, patriotic al tentative is a fall right. small but luscious group. i mean, it's lead us sam call. it has praised hitler and you know, i've supported him. so when we talk to my extreme and yet they've managed through these protests to kind of present themselves as protectors of the locals. and you know, we just care about our own people,
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so it's very important we make sure we know who it is important and it is important so that we will continue to cover this story. and i want to thank you. fortunately, that's all the time we have for today's show, but sophia and his i thank you so much for being with us. you can always find us online at stream dot al jazeera dog. com. thanks for watching. ah ah a
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