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jazeera a fire at one of the world's largest refugee camps has brought new focus on the plight of the rocking gun. they've been stuck in bangladesh since fleeing a 2017 prac. down in me and more. so what does the future hold for them? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. my manager jerome cox's bazaar in southern bangladesh, his home to about a 1000000 ro hang the refugees who fled a military crack down in miramar, in 2017. but on sunday life and one of the most crowded refugee camps in the world got even more difficult. a huge fire broke out burning down some of the makeshift homes and causing extensive damage. so before we bring in our panel today,

let's 1st speak to so hot. zia hero is the founder and editor of rank, a toggle for magazine, and saw the fire in the camps. so hot. thank you so much for being with us today. first of all, i'm glad that you and your family are safe. let me ask you, how bad was this latest fire and how frightening was it for you and other refugees in the camp? yes, brother, mama, you know, when i saw the fire, i was working at my office at the time, then our desk mall. and people were playing around and 7 their shut down and then i ran. busy from my office and i when they're who their sport the bio binding area. so i saw it was really is devastating

file such a big file, people escaping from their fire and saving their lives. busy they've been the shadow ridge and young people had been elderly people to escape from the fire and they didn't have the shaft to say when you are the materials and you know the thing from the shelter because they didn't, you didn't have time to get them as their firewall, the fail breeding. very pause because it was a bit windy doing that by already. and she didn't strongly. so yes or in a win escape from the school bond. and it had in the short

way, also one or more than 2 dozen families where so that is our one we're going to use. i became homeless and your last child there pool and everything i saw you and other photographers have been documenting life in the camps for a while. now you yourself are the founder and editor of the raw. hang a toggle for magazine. we're actually looking at some of your photos and videos that you provided to us right now, a showing the fire and also showing some of the aftermath of the fire. i want to ask you why it's so important for you and your colleagues to continue to showcase and document the daily life of ro hanger refugees. yes, it's very important because one to rise when us

and we want to show the situation we went to tell of what the situation of the fire destruction and fire equal to the people are on the wall. so the people on the wall. no, i bought hours again, i bought them, you know, people who are affected by that messy fire yesterday. so no one requested the international community to support and come forward to have all these people in the previous hello, really needy. ah, at this time in dc and again see see who sent our one bedroom, her mom to scan. they don't have full down water and

they lost everything they have. so there are just no open tool. oh bueller? for their life? from the beginning. sazia hero founder, an editor of ro hang a toggle for magazine, who is a photographer documenting daily life of ringo. refugees, thank you so much for joining us and thank you so much for your important work. so how did the ringer end up in bangladesh in the 1st place? as we mentioned me in mar, security forces in rock kinds sate launched a crack down against the largely muslim or hanger in 2017. more than a 1000000 people escaped to neighboring bangladesh. the rancor are denied citizenship and me and more and have no official refugee status in bangladesh. that makes them stateless. and the world food program has said it's cutting back on rations affecting hundreds of thousands of the refugees. ah, all right, let's go and bring the rest of our guests now. in dhaka, wendy mccants, bangladesh, country director of the norwegian refugee council in fairfax, virginia,

tom andrews. you in special rapid tour on the situation of human rights in me and mark. and in hamburg, dr. ambia praveen chair, person of european were hang a council and founder of the ro, hangup medics. organization a warm welcome to you all and thanks so much for joining us today on. and so i story, dr. privy and let me start with you today. there have been numerous fires in the camps in cox's was are that it impacted ra, hang or refugees? this latest one, it really just highlights how dire the situation remains for ro hang a refugees, right? and also i want to ask you how traumatic is this for the refugees who are impacted by these fires? thank you for the question. i'll try to be short, but am, you know, they are laura, negative things have been happening. a lot of things have been happening, especially on the negative side. for the wrangler, especially are living in bungler dish. and there have been also, they are becoming not only are a people are,

are with the time and bombard with the huge challenges of life and open to traumas like the incident happened yesterday. and it happened also last year and also in 2021. and there were several times this kind of incidents have happened. then plus, after this incident, there was also a shortage of food, a watchers for our people. and plus, these people are not only becoming the one or a bell, but also they are becoming, are the that there are the help that they need from the international community and from the locals. and society is getting worse. so if you see this triggering often these incidence and the accent happening in the camp where people are having of these days as 0 or a to the adult population and for the justice and that the alive would be better.

these people and the international community and the bundle dish and government have notice, but nothing has been done. you can see that these are a lack of policies, or you can see, you know, policies to help the ranges living in bangladesh and be sure also not yet when we see there are people who are running away, taking their a dangerous journeys to travel to indonesia, malaysia and adopting and then being the hands in that human traffickers. we should not be astonished what is going on. so you can see that these nc accidents and incidents are happening and there is no of from the stakeholders. there is no concrete steps to have this warner. the people at tom went. incidents like these fires get reported. there is often collective shock there are calls to assist the ringer more, but sadly, things do not seem to improve. for the ringer, you have been sounding the alarm for a while now you've been calling out the international community for their failure

to act. why aren't they were kinda getting the kind of attention that they deserve . as a very good question, mohammed and 1st and foremost, thank you for airing this program and focusing attention on this crisis. because the fact is that the rainbow are an invisible people to the world. what you have among the various leaders of various countries. certainly, members of the human rights council who i report to in geneva speak very loudly about the re nga and the importance of international support. the problem is most of the countries that are represented are not providing funding for the right angle refugees in bangladesh. and we've had an announcement that there's a 17 percent cut because of the inadequate funds being provided by that international community. it's been announced that there is a 17 percent cut in food rations and in the camps. and there will be an additional cut in the next few weeks. so individuals will be going from $0.39 us cents per day

for food down to $0.27 per day for food know you try to survive on $0.27 per day for food, but that is exactly what the people in these camps, the rating of people in these camps are going to have to live on because of the shortfall of the emergency response plan for the, for they were in. that is, i believe, unconscionable by the international community. mean the people of the in these camps are in these camps cannot eat political rhetoric. they cannot eat resolutions, they need food. and the international community has not been providing the food and assistance that they, that they need and deserve. when do you heard tom? there talk about something that made a lot of headlines recently, which is the fact that these food vouchers for the range that they, that they have been cut and that they, that they might face more cuts going forward because of the funding gap. i've heard

so much concern from so many bro. hang to refugees about this. how concerned are you and your colleagues at your organization in our see as well as other 8 organizations and how might this impact, how catastrophic might this be for the population there in the camps? yeah, that's not the fun things pacify our substance. you got great protection. what about example should be happen then more likely people are looking on ways to what we're trying to find funding but that citing she

will be able to see my doctor prevent. let me ask you as a doctor, how much concerned you have about this food aid situation? in particular, i asked because malnutrition is already quite high, especially among children in the camps in bangladesh. i mean, how much worse does this all make things for the refugees? i'm you know, and the longer some, i'm not only i have deprived, not only in the homeland but also in bangladesh. unfortunately deprived from basic human rights. and one of them is the food. so our children above, i'm an under 5 years old, they were already malnourished. and with these reduction of the watchers,

it will also increase the man would push and our people among my children. and also the ladies who are pregnant, the, the week people we have a chronic vermin and also children. and also adults who are also having the chronic issues, health issues, they will be also affected with this. so there will be and then with the m. m minute trish and they will be also prone to other infectious they will they will be a having a healthy development and also growth and also they will be open. are they really weren't able to? was it to, was the metropolis and do him a nice ations processes and because of that, these children will be also not and will be involved in the crimes the youthful been not also involved in the crimes, but also the girls of august when the child marriages and the sexual violence is they might be able to go for prosecution, and the parents will be a forcing them or will be forced to send them to other countries through the

dangerous ways so that they can lead a normal life. so in general, our, our issue is the international community has to understand that these other weren't people who left the country in 2017, i mean they were always coming from them. young man, due to the historical, systematic violence in our commer, the land, myanmar. people were coming from 19720178 occurred the most danger genocide, las vegas took place. so then we came to our nava loyal country about this and also to the international community trusting then it will give us justice. they will take care of us, they will provide a safe and security and they will do the maximum to do it on the other side. some and help has been provided and not only for the interests of the rank, but the also for the interest. now you can see the hostilities growing in the, among the locals, you know, local community and,

and the international community has also given up because there is no common interest between the bundle dish and the all clear interest between the bangladesh and onion march. the partition is not taking place and bangladesh has also given up . you have just might have heard 2 or 3 months. bankable, the prime minister, she casino has said, declared that the rank as a button to them. they can do so much for the ruin guess. and devil if a prime minister at stakeholder says such words, there is a lack of rule of law or law of order and, and a roots are also a not properly handled. so people are being whatever they want and bid this accidents. what happen there is still the buyer bar up to players. i still there. it has not been removed from the and previous accidents. we have seen that the children have lost lives. children were injured and the children while playing was through the bob. why his dea injured they can not have a feeling and,

and people cannot. you not leave the doctor verbena. i'm so that when i'm, i'm sorry to interrupt you, let me get back to it to the, to the question about as some of the difficulties faced by the children there. i wanna just go to tom with regards to a question. i had something that dr. levine brought up at the historical, systematic abuse, suffered by the ringo, especially. and me and more, you know, often when the media focused on the ringer, they talk about the refugees in bangladesh. but there are hundreds of thousands of them that remain in me and more. and i want to ask you what conditions are like for them? conditions are bad. well, how much there are over over 600000 range in be and more as, as we speak right now, largely and we're kind of state and of those over 130000 are in internment camps. and they have been in these and terminate camps for now over a decade. they have, as you mentioned, at the outset of the program, they have no rights. they are denied basic human rights and even basic substance.

they are unable to, to move, even those who are outside of the internment camps are under guard by the military . and remember this, they are under the watch of a military that committed genocide against them. i'm just a few years ago. so it's a terrifying situation that they're living in. they are in desperate conditions. and so we cannot forget the fact that there are and i'm glad you asked that question. that there are hundreds of thousands of writing in peril as we speak inside of me and, and tom, let me just follow up on a, on a point you're making. because the kinds of testimonies that i've collected from writing to refugees in cox's bazaar when i've been there on reporting trips in the past, when it comes to the abuses that they encountered at the hands of the me and more military. quite frankly. these testimonies are among the most horrific things i've ever heard in my career. and you've said in the past that war crimes and crimes against humanity are being committed every day with impunity,

by the military. genta of me and more. what needs to happen in order for this to stop the international community has to pay attention to this crisis. and when they do, they need to make a, we, as an international community need to make a strategic coordinated response to this crisis. so that we maximize the pressure on the military that we cut off it's access to weapons and to the money that they're using to commit these crimes against humanity and these warcraft. if we took an approach similar to the one taken with you quite in which countries joined together, focus on where the greatest vulnerability of the hunter is and then target those vulnerabilities, cutting off their resources, cutting off their weapons. then we could begin to see real pressure on the 100, but right now, the response has been uncoordinated. it's been disjointed. there are lots of ways

that the hunter can get around the sanctions that are in place where we've been documenting the various ways that they're getting around the sanctions because of a lack of enforcement. so in short, the international community needs to focus on this crisis. and the international community needs to get much more serious about addressing this crisis in a coordinated, strategic and effective way windy, i may ask you what's happening on the ground in the camps. now, in the aftermath of, of this fire, the reports are that at least 2000 and shelters have burned, at least 12000 refugees are homeless. this is obviously artistic situation for members of minority that's considered to be one of the most persecuted minorities in the world. these people were displaced already, many of the now are displaced again, are they being relocated and how, how are they being helped 100 people to

buy it. right. and then we thought about it today because everybody doesn't happen. busy you're going out to remind, as you might say, and then there's going to be a longer shit about why do we have we go? but when we say we used to do things like that and again, the managed and they take time

to make so much needed for someone to show up and find places. one of the missing children at that point in time to make sure that it's pretty windy if i can just follow up with you. i have reported several times from the camps and cock has bizarre. and, you know, when you go that you notice right away, just how extremely overcrowded they are, how dire the conditions are and remain. if you could just help our viewers understand a little bit better how easy it is for a fire to spread in that environment. and how dangerous it is for the population, when a fire starts?

yes. but it's impossible to find brakes around the fire. because when you get as much say that, that way the management team came out and it was something i need to find by trying to try and get the trucks on something. if i didn't

have a my actually it comes from tom when it comes to the legal cases that are ongoing when it comes to the flight of the rank, there is the case at the international court of justice. there's an investigation at the international criminal court. i mean, are you optimistic this is actually going to lead to justice for the rank. i mean, is all this moving fast enough or is it or is it just not moving or is it just not moving along? no, it's not moving fast enough or justice is slow, very slow. i'm hoping that this evidence and there's lots of it and we continue to evidence is going to be used for these prosecutions. in the meantime, i'm hopeful that the international community. ready pay greater attention to this crisis and these abuses and we'll focus a more pressure on the, on the military. going to take away its means of continuing these violations,

but be to provide the basic support a need needs of the people who are in the, in the camps, in, in bangladesh. dr. preventive, terry, and aid for the ringa it's, it's been declining for, for, for a couple of years now. it's expected to fall even further this year. why do you think that is and how frustrating is that for you? i mean, you, you work so hard to try to raise awareness when it comes to the play, the wrangle and, and how their basic needs must be met. how, how difficult is that for you? it is a very difficult a because you know, i'm on the, it's the ra hanger cause it's not only the political cause, you know, they are also other crises out apparently moving around and we need justice at the same time we need to maintain these where are the people m to mentally and medically source tables that one day when the patriot we don't become

a burden to our own community that we will be able to contribute ourselves to the lucas and also to our country. and also to be effective for the global society. so when we raised her to maintain the basic human rights, it is so difficult. and for example, the, the, our people, whatever they're getting, it's not at all enough. so there are also seeking from the dice for us. and when these dies bore us, we also working people category and we have also financial and morally support them . we have to financially up also financially work for our sales because we need also our money and all the stuff. at the same time, we have to campaign parentally to work for a community and also to take careful surveyed to because now you can see. so the best solution among what mr. andrews has said, it is also very important that we don't only we have to stablish our fairly best obliging of our people the have to make the independent if it,

if we make them independent. it is a great solution because if this food crisis, and if our people will be able to maintain our, the camp itself on its own and they will be educated, how to finish the fire, what needed to be done. so they will be able to take care of themselves and they will be able to earn if these people can come out and began to get the education. so they will beach is never seen the hope and they will not be the last generation . one must not forget the odds, only talking about the refugees living inside the camp and also in miramar, our people. but we are forgetting the dice for us. that is a very minimum number of dives for us. and from there, oh, hang a come. yeah. a who are standing for our people, and we're also traumatized. we also exposed to these things physically. i might not be there, but morally and mentally, i'm good my people because we are then the us. so we are also affected with the tragedies that the prosecution, the atrocities they've been going through daily and which affects the rank active

use of the dealership and nobody's there to so also mentally, people are forgetting. these are the wonderful people. there are the group of for blended group of people and that according to i, c d, i said we need to make them the protection not mean that only waiting for them to give us a just it, it means to give us justice from everywhere done. it does not mean the legal issues are accountability. justice means means to give them the basic human rights, not only in the camp, but also inside the me. on my, which days a huge lack of not the core we came, the russian ukrainian work in pink's field. come, that does not mean that we're normal. people should be forgotten. and as i've said earlier, please do not make us dependent on you. people make us depend on the angels to that, but to the ban, let that is gonna make us india so that we will be able to stand on our feet. we will be able to stay right around stories we will be make

a little as far where people, dark, vivian, i'm sorry, we have run out of time. we're gonna have to leave the conversation or but, but we thank you all so much. thanks so much. all of our guest winning mccants, tom andrews, and dr. ambia prevent and thank you for watching you see the program again, any time by visiting our website at 0 dot com and prefer the discussion go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle is at ha, inside story from emergent german halting her doha bye for now. ah ah

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