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minimum retirement age. unions are pledging to keep fighting after the plan was approved by the senate. today we look at the stand off between workers and the government and ask how the bill could change life in france. ah, joining us today from parents as gayle martinez. she's a spokesperson for unions and to call solid air, which represents a group of french trade unions. also in paris is coal stangler. he's a journalist, an analyst who covers labor and politics and france. and ariane, again, is a professor of french politics and northumbria university. she joins us from new castle in the u. k. also joined by you in this conversation. you can join it by sending us your comments, your questions for our panel through our lied you to chat, which you can see right there. all right, let's 1st go to the protesters. i want to hear what they had to say. so if we can roll this piece of video.

ah, oh dumont, you're still asking mac ron to listen to the workers. he's playing death until now, but he has seen that there are a lot of people that these reforms are really being rejected by all workers. he must step back. we are asking him to withdraw these reforms are due to cover. yeah, i just think that we will no more. i know that the government does not listen to its people, but i'm hoping that this protests will be useful. in any case, if we do nothing, things will not change. so we have to be here and we must show that we're not giving in. the government doesn't want to get in either to leave around the mongolia human movie. hey, call. thanks for joining us today. can you catch us up with some of the latest developments? yes, so we've had nearly 2 months of math protests going back to january. we just saw one of the biggest mobilization since the movement began, according to government, 1800000 people nationwide turning out to protest that last week,

more than 3000000 according to unions. and we've also seen the opposition to the pension reform. it would raise the minimum level again from, from that minimum eligibility age from $62.00 to $64.00, we've seen opposition stay pretty steady. around 7 and 10 french people opposed to the reform. what we have seen also change in really the last few days is the government move along with this reform. we thought the senate get the thumbs up to a version of the bill. and now we could have a joint parliamentary commission between the senate and the national assembly, taking up that bill on wednesday. it looks like and then a vote in both chambers potentially as early as thursday. really, a pivotal dates are coming up for the government and also the movement against the pensioner forms. we have another way to protest that scheduled on wednesday, another big day unions calling it to turn out in 4th. and then in the meantime,

rolling strikes that we've seen a number of different sectors across france. the railroads. we've seen garbage men go and strike here in france. the effects are in paris, excuse me. the effect of that are quite visible. we've also seen refining, rigorous, a lot of protests still under way. well, thank. so speaking to the government, we actually have a comment from chris christopher weisberg. he's a minister of parliament, check it out. so in france, our pension system is public. so in order to pay retirees for their pensions, you need to have active people to pay where is a retired. and right now we have 1.7 active people paying for one retired person. 50 years ago it was 341. and when the system was created, it was for, for one. so you can see that this system in order to work out needs more workers and more people working. and this is precisely why we have to do this before. okay,

so is the math as simple as that assistant that was built for, for workers to support each retiree now depends on $1.00 workers to support them. i guess that's fine. i'm so sorry. i know you're the one who i want to answer for us now. yes, there is a demographic problem. yes. we know that the system might need to be changed. but what people say in front with the majority of people in front is but the way it is, reform has been done and that they are other ways of doing it that the government chose to increase retirement age fine. but they are all the way of doing it, including taxation. so yes, there is a problem with demographics. we know this, but to just say the only solution is to was no good is wrong because they all of the solution. and that's what the people industry public opinion is

saying, you're not, you're jumping on that. yeah, yeah, of course they are or the solutions if the government say that there is a demographic problem and that we need to find money to sustain the, the system. but that's not true if you can find money elsewhere issue and types of profits. for example, we know that dividends so grow you by year. so we can the money that way. we know also that tax evasion can, can also be somewhere where you can find money, tax vision in trends since or something like under a $1000000000.00 euros each year. so let's take the money where it is. ok. so it seems like everyone might agree on the problem, but just not the solution to it. why does the government game so focused on this

singular solution? gail? just i just wanted to, to add that to about the demographic problem that the committee of the new i went through and translated in english and the retirement to orientation committee said that in this, in the next years the, the sustainability of, of the, of the system is not in question, so just let put forward. just don't, don't really though you don't have to solve the problem now is what not what you're saying. now the problem is not in the, in the next year the committee said that most of this is not the an issue area. you know, if i can, then you can check if you know, yes, there is a probably long term, you know, and when you're, why has the government decided to do the way it is the political decision? if you decide that you don't want to decrease pension,

which obviously is the right way to do it. but more importantly, if you decide that you don't to coach that question, that you don't want to make companies contribute that you don't want to make retired people and especially to wealthy, retype people contribute. then there is only one solution which is to write legal age. where does government is wrong is to say that this is the only solution, it's the only solution what you have dismissed everything else. i want to get another piece of video here. these are from a, some students and women processors here took this out the fund couple yes, especially for women who work hard time or have for curious contracts and who will therefore have smaller pensions. it is not their fault. it is not their personal choice or their economic choice. they are subject to a system that pushes them to take care of domestic task to look after their children, to look after their home. and therefore they have to work part time. they will suffer this when it comes to the retirement, like this little sample of the most,

they say pension reform won't affect students. but in truth, if it concerns everyone, even young people, we will be affected. if it's going to be pushed back to 64 years afterwards, it could be pushed back to $66.00 or $69.00. it can go on indefinitely. obviously it's happening now too. so that's why i mobilized it affects my parents. the whole family actually moved to the whole. is this affecting different groups of people in unfair ways? yeah, i mean that's certainly what protestors, i think it certainly with the majority of the french public believe that this reform is disproportionately hurting the least will offer infringe society. so if you think about the people that are, can be sent to benefit the most from retirement at the end of their career, the talent of their career, we're talking about blue collar. manual workers. people working difficult job, physically grueling jobs, construction. people that are janitors, people working in factories and these are the people that are essentially being asked to shoulder, the burden of that political decision made by menu in my call that that area was,

was just referring to. so blue collar workers across the board stand to lose the most from this or form and you can look at other categories the population as well . we saw there is of international women's day protest against fisher for me as well because women, particularly mothers, tend to lose for mr. form. people have to take time off from their professional lives in order to help raise children. they're going to have to suffer from this for mr. for him as well. and you could go to and look at immigrant workers as well . i thought collective of undocumented workers as a protest in paris. they did proportionately work these, these tough lo waged blue collar jobs as well. and i let you talk to the right what you say. i think the furnace is also the fact that already know their life expectancy. once you retire your health condition, once you retire is very, very different when you are good color worker. and so if you are people

to, to, to why people longer than the parents of life expectancy and health condition would be even higher. so that's an additional additional source of unfairness about how it's deceived by the population girl. yeah. and also we know that in trans today, edgen gould health is around 63 years old. so if you go on kion 64, then you know that when you arrive at the retirement age, then you have a really lot of risk to be healthy, not to enjoy the last 2 years of your life and not what, what people want in friends is they want to leave, they want to enjoy the last unit and they just don't want to survive. life is already really difficult today because of inflation because of working conditions

for all the workers, as you said, i and so they just want to enjoy life. and that's not something and believable just to think that way. what i want to rip on this is her 2nd, like i just like i'd like to, well, you know, it's very well thing to people. you have to work longer. but we already have a problem with high rates of unemployment among older people. so you know, if you are told to work to extra. yeah. but there's no job for you. then what are you going to do? you're going to be an employee that you don't have to worry about people. huh? yeah, kyle: yeah, and i want to add also that the government says, but you will, you will be able to change work if you are, if you have a difficult job you will be able to change shop. but i mean, if you haven't been all your life long, something like maybe i don't know, a garbage man. then you know that you won't,

you won't be able to change at 62 or 64 because of unemployment. and because you won't find anything else. and because your, your body will be completely broken and your mind will be broken. and there is no solution. i want to rip on that. this is someone, i think there are twitter no there in the youtube crowd to call flower child messages. and they say, i hope not, i don't want france to become america, please know. and i kind of get this goal. just philosophically like, are people in france saying, wait a 2nd, we're more than just cogs in the machine. but we actually want to live our lives and enjoy it. maybe outside of providing to economic system full time. yeah, i mean, i, you know, i certainly think that what we're seeing with the protest movement is that, you know, this goes beyond the question of just retirement itself and pension itself. that's something that both the left wing opposition and the craziness and the government can agree on that. this debate has gone beyond just the precise question of

retirement or form, you know, and i think that's why we think so much opposition to this is well in france, that if you look at the, if you look at a manual my course presidency, he taken a number of policies that adopted number of policies that tend to benefit lead the wealthier people in france and the lower segment of the population. people that are earning less money don't do the benefit of those changes. you can go back to the beginning of my cost presidency, where it's very 1st year upon being elected. you scrapped, frances tax on wealth will be applied to people with, with $1300000.00 euros and more and assets the impose labor law reform to make it easier to lay off workers. he's been opposed to hiking the minimum wage. so when, when you look at all these measures and then you say, well on top of that, the government's asking you to work 2 years longer to finance. again, that political choice that they made, people perceive it to be to be very unfair. so they look at the overall context of

my call and they also look at, you know, really the question of work to in france, which is certainly under, you know, under inspection with that, with the movement and age used to be 60 right. and so he brought it up to 62 over a decade ago. right. did he pays the same opposition? oh yes. there is a big, there was. was it 14 or 15 days of action, as you probably know, better than me? yeah, it was the people on the street where you went to, it didn't work. you know that the pensions, you know, the pension went through, but there was already, you know, decision, resist, willingness not to go to 62. and i think the difference with today is 21. no one said that it was about just about social justice, about felony. it was we have to face the system specified. was the big mistake for

me that the government has done this is to claim that if it was done in that i just don't. i'm a fan, it. ringback it took about 5 minutes without to rumble, because people perceive very quick click quickly. sorry, i'm very clearly, that is not the case, but yeah, you know, the phone happened in 2010. and so what happened if we have another reforming time now, and of course that go far to go and then we'll go good. okay, good. just to give a little bit more context on that. on that last part we were discussing. you know, if you, if you listen to the left, if you listen to the later movement in friend, they consider the right to be able to retire with dignity to be really a pillar of social progress. something that they've thought for for decade. speaking with, with m. p, 's who are posted their form. you know, they've said that they put this in a long history of, of the fight to have less time or 2 piece. because me to have more time away from

work. you know, the fight to end child labor than winning the right to the weekend than winning the right to retirement. and lowering the retirement age to 60, which we saw underqualified meet the whole, the 1st socialist president in the history of the french 5th republic. and then like you mentioned, faculty moving the opposite direction from 60 to 62. and so they view my course latest reform is mr. poster form and hillary that the latest step in the, in are, in an erosion of the social progress progress. people have been fighting for for generation, so it really goes beyond just again this specific issue of, you know, this sort of technical calculation of 6264 guy on have you jump in next, but i just want to bring up. i want to, i want to tell the viewers that we did reach out to the government for a response on this. we didn't get it, but we actually do have a bit of the video from oliver brand. he's a government spokesperson here. listen with us. the built new list of all we will not give up on our pensions. reforms we are taking account step by step of all the signs that allow us to consider that we will be able to have our pension reform

adopted. and therefore, we are continuing on the path we've embarked on that is consultation with political parties, and we will get there. so he seems pretty confident. what would you say about that? well, i think the government who's not continent had all that's because that's why blocks the vote on this in 8. and then he, well, the government there is teela. rumors about using the article, 49.3 of the constitution, which permits which allows the government to impose the b l without without a formal vote in both assemblies. so i wouldn't say that the government is confident i. we know that the government try to, to impose the thing which is what we call

a denial of democracy. and the government doesn't want to eat the people in the street. they don't want to really talk about the read the unions. the unions, the all of the unions and friends wrote prison on my phone last, which answered that he wouldn't meet the union. why? if, if he's not worried why wouldn't talk with the union's just, you know, said with more than 3000000 people in industries for the, for the, for next last last week and, and people in protest for 2 months now. we think that he is not confident and that's not because the lo will evan. he be voted on on thursday that the the protest will end the contestation and that's not right. the anger in friends is really, really big today because of everything that calling explain. well, i want,

i want to bring in a lisky. she's a freelance journalist and she has a little bit different view of it. let's. let's see what she has to say. background is not backing down and i have the impression that more french people are resigned to the bill pushing through and becoming law. and while the majority support be ongoing strikes, i think okay, don't quote me on this. i think it's about 56 percent. some people are feeling strike fatigue. for instance, ordinary people who just want to get to work in the morning are getting tired of the train in the metro cancellations. there's garbage piling up on the streets of paris. and at the end of the day, people are starting to feel that the strikes aren't gonna make a difference. the government's going to push his agenda through anyway. so why punish ordinary people? going to respond, answer it, raising her hand area and go for several points. first of all i

agree with what. ringback custom anyway, with what just seems to be so formal resignation, but will remain 2nd article $49.00 oven so that it unto them across it's part of the constitution. but the optic are going to be parable is it that the government uses it. and finally, i agree with go, but i don't think that government super confidence because it will really come down to 2 or 3. there's going to be a lot currently right now. a lot of behind the scene calling up and paid and tried to convince them. so it is going to be real time, it might end up using article $49.00, which going to few anger even more. but i agree that there has been the feeling that it will go through anyway. and we see that in the polls called the strike fatigue, there is the trash piling up in pairs. yeah, i mean, i think the trashes is piling up in paris,

but that doesn't necessarily necessarily mean people aren't supporting the movement . i mean, i think that that 56 percent number that was quoted is interesting. 56 percent of people support open ended strike to end to block oppression reform. that's a pretty radical proposal. i think if you look at it, people thing they support open ended strikes, meaning that they're willing to have a personal sacrifice in order to stop this bill from, from being approved. so we have another big wave of protest on wednesday. i'm now we're seeing images of, of some of these, some of these blockade the, i think with the government wanted, was for people to very quickly turn against the protest movement. quickly turn against the sort of hardening of the protest movement or them adopting more radical tactics. trying to blockade refineries, you know, having these open and instruct, we haven't seen that happen. and again speaks to the anger and so, you know, perhaps pulling also shows that people expect the builder to pass. but i think people also oppose that. and i think we'll keep pretty big turn out for that for that next day of strikes on wednesday. go on to our youtube body,

and here the rest of the world is watching their comments about the netherlands, i think is their age at 67 now. so i, i, they certainly seem to be pulling for the workers there your area and you, you are going to say, no, i mean, i was just a, she said that this week is over. no one ever putting in to really put the government back wednesday. i'm not saying that the bill go through, there won't be any more progress, but went up through the crucial gal. i don't know if you could tell us whether you think that move strikes go into effect. those are going to be affected by dr. is known as the union with the government and i think they'll be, you know, edge of the seat kind of situation because the numbers are going to be really, really tight dial. what do you think? now we expect a lot of people on strike in the and in the protest on wednesday. we know that in

we'll wait. for example, people last hill and when you were was trying. it's also the case in rec, refineries and well in the sectors that are on strike every day and, and we intend to have a huge, huge protest on wednesday call. got about a minute left. what should international watch be watching for there in france? which way this is going to go? yeah, i mean, i think one of the, one of the other takeaways from the movement is, is we've heard so much about sort of this, this dominant political opposition in france being between a menu in my call and the far right, incarnated by marine the pen. i think what this movement is showing is, in fact there is a, another source of opposition to my cross policy and it does not come from the far right. it comes from, the labor movement comes from the left. these forces that people assume to be dead actually are quite alive and actually can speak to the, to the preoccupations is concerned with the majority of the french population. so

player movement is alive in the left is a live regardless of what happens in this book. this week, again, a reminder we did reach out to the government for a comment on this. they chose not be a part of it next time i hope they will be. we will continue watching this important story on al jazeera english as it unfolds. and we'll see you back here at the stream tomorrow. thank you for joining. ah ah ah

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