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and the united states laws were still based on race. it's only recently that the works have found a wider audience in the u. s. and many of never been seen in europe. nigerian artist, victor amador, sees vestiges of traditional art in the works from the deep south. these walks are not disarmed, causing stormy. yes, of course. they are made in america, but they are made by blocks that are in america. so which means we're cario, our stories insider force would carry it. we follow whatever i would go. you know, so we do not travel lights. the history of the deep south and america has until recently, been written by the white majority. this is the black americans version of it, and it's a history of poverty and oppression with resilience and survival. ah, contemporary african artist, like a homeowner, also confronted a history written by white colonizers,
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of a potential u. s. banking crisis continue to ease the collapse of u. s. lenders, silicon valley bank anne's signature bank, had triggered a shop drop in stokes. as you had lies nice continues here. now to there after the stream talk to al jazeera, we ask, but should they not be more oversize perhaps, of foundations like yours? we listen when it comes to diversification, we don't do it in order to beat, gets rid of the rational energy source we meet with global news makers. i'm talk about the story stuck matter on al jazeera thought. hey, welcome to the stream. i'm josh rushing to day the mystery surrounding the missing malaysian airlines flight 370 nearly decade later,
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the disappearance remained unsolved. let's take a step back. remember what we know about the case on march, 8th, 2014. m a. c. 370 was flying from quo them, port to beijing, when it disappeared from radar over the to south china sea. on board 227 passengers and 12 crew members. because satellite data had last recorded the plains location, heading westward toward the indian ocean and international search effort lasted there for 3 years, but yielded no new evidence. 9 years later, there been no bodies, found no fuselage, no black box, no proven answers, and yet still so many questions. and with us to try to answer some of those questions in new york city were joined by jeff wise and aviation journalist and doha. alex, which harris and aviation analysts and florence de shoghi an investigative journalist in hong kong based foreign correspondent for le monde, welcome to you all, alex. i just want to begin with you. i gave us back at or 9 years old. what are
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some of the updated facts that we know since then? i know there a lot of theories out there but to some of the things we can actually accept as fact very few. and that is why this remains one of the greatest mysteries, because ordinarily, over a period of time that is past. i mean, we've had the end of the such 2017, we're now in 2023. there are almost no updates. what we do know is that there have been credible examples of debris that have been linked with case number's 2, have been linked to the m h 370 across the barn, triple 7 that was involved in this fly. but since that, that has been no such and a continuation in a starch operation, the militia government has not renewed its commitment to such. and they say that they are just waiting for credible evidence. but of course, if there is no entity out there searching for credible evidence, and what updates are we going to have? so the answer is that between the end of the such and now not wow, ok,
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let's check out the trailer for there's new series on netflix as 3 episodes that dives little deeper into this way of breaking is melita air like confirm that as la contact with a plane, very few 127 passenger seems to have vanished into the live. what do we tell the family members with linkedin? i see where it is up to. so i'm imaginable, i felt completely shedded a bit denial about to play and having some sort of fresh, i'm sorry for the food of shipment. we ship some cushman over, you know, what happens next is like a rip in the fabric of reality series about the missing plane or killing bio as possible. it was hide. all right, so we actually are joined by 2 of the people featured in that documentary before we go there. we're also joined by you. if you're watching live on youtube, i want to join this conversation, get some questions to me, so that i can get them to our guest and we already have some questions. i'm gonna
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go to you to of now and bring an let's, let's bring in. this is maria renette k says maybe the pilot was depressed and took every one down with them. maybe went through trauma when he was young, florence will come to you ah, to talk about the pilot. and there was another one about the pilot. i want to bring as well that said somewhere out there. some one knows the truth about $77.00, so maybe maybe that's maybe that's true. let's say it's a warrant. let's begin with you because it seems to me, but most obvious explanation. hasta tom ball, the pilot. but you've actually looked and to the pilot to make tell me what you think about and what you know bottom well, just like you are, when i realized i was going to dig a little bit deeper in that story and i was just to revisit the 1st anniversary of um the disaster. i went back to qual alone pool and i gave myself a week to find out who exactly was this man because there had been so many
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rumors. so many, all kind of crazy stories about him, his person or life. he's political commitment, i'm dad i smoked and everyone knows that on a, on a plane, the key person is the pilot, right? so i wanted to clear that, and i can't describe the feeling i got saw early in my research. i actually remember it physically thinking what a relief i never thought i would get so quickly the conviction that this man is absolutely fine. he was kind. he was not the best of man. you don't want her hero there. you just want a good man and not only he was good in his mind in his health, in his, in his life. and he was also an excellent pilot, and i've seen some people who said, look, if you ever added trouble in a, in a plane you want, or i re did their friend that his friends used to call him ari. you want captain's
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a, harry shaw, or in the cockpit. so once you know that you have one of the best buy lots and most trustworthy, reliable guy in the cockpit, it narrows enormously or the potential of what may happen to you. now, i tried my best to clear his name during all these years, and i must say, i am appalled and saddened and ashamed that ease name, not only has not been clear, but has actually been actively smeared by different reporter, including jeff, i'm afraid o to these they who's faking you, i mean, is fake scoop to does they he still on the internet available to accuse him as the greatest culprit. and this is an enormous shame to me because i'm, i'm partly reliable. i mean getty, of this thing that jeff did on,
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but i feel very sorry for his family and for everyone. and i think the families of imagery 70 the, you know, by now, most of them that harry is a hurry. shackleton's a hurry shy, was a good man, and this is a key thing. and if i can stop by and not only dollar correction or just that we've alix, and that shows you how much misconception and how much misinformation there is around the story, actually did everything that i've been validated are highly a problem. he can, we couldn't get back to that later. is it, i mean, is it, if virus is it problematic? when, when we know, i mean is, is it, would you accept the fact that part, at least part of the debris in, in 8 cases have been linked with the same serial number? i mean, of course, if we're, if we're going to be speaking with the, with, with all due respect to, to the family situation and the captain, if we're going to treat that as a fact and rule things are, why are we ruling out that why, why are we not taking seriously the fact that debris from an h 370 has been
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categorically linked. you know, the 8 cases with the same serial numbers that are consistent with the exact triple 7 involved. that's the part of the document i wanted to come to you about actually, why should that not be taken seriously? a minute annex with no offense. i don't think you are fully aware of the situation with the debris. the 1st there brewery was a flap room. fine in your reunion island right? um and the other that was eventually, ah, vetted by the, by the french and a if you look at the, you look at the report, it's a 100 pages. and you know, it's immediately they say immediately that they do not vouch for the proven all because the proven, also as been declared by a political statement and everything about the slap problem is highly problematic. first of all, the fact that you to ride in reunion, you know, after 15 months of floating you, you wonder why because it's
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a broken piece of composite material. it managed. sure for me. then finally, as we forget, i'll since i got it, and i get the suggestion that there are questions of that, you know, the way in which it appeared. and of course the coincidence is that, that you guys both explored in an, in the documentary where do you accept that there are categorical, factual examples. busy oh, the serial numbers being the same of international aviation organizations confirm that there was a link. absolutely not. and you know, it's, it's extraordinary to read in the report from the australian that the there to see that he thought it was not necessary to check these piece. we've boeing. i mean, if there is one entity on earth who would have been able to say, well, yes, this is truly a piece, not just from a b triple 7, but from imagery 70. it might have been boeing. and for some reason you australians, i thought that it was not necessary. i mean it's, it's a bunch. ok guys of identifying this piece. i want to bring jeff and jeff you,
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you've looked at this thing for years and years and had happened were, can, can you talk about these faces? and they've been categorically, categorically identified as belonging to that or point? well, i think it's important to maybe pull back a little bit understand why we think what we think. ok. so most of the search is predicated on the 7 pieces of satellite data that in mar, sat discovery, quite to their surprise that they had in their possession they've been recorded automatically after the plan had disappeared. if you've watched the documentary, you understand that at 1st, most people believed that the most likely thing that the plane had crashed right there over the so china c. and then they subsequently found these radar returns that suggested plane had flown to the west and then disappeared. again, so the plan actually disappeared 3 times effectively. and so the whole mystery really hinges on this, this set of in mar, sat data that once it is, i think it's important for people understand. no playing had ever transmitted data
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like this before. this plane had found itself in an unprecedented electrical configuration where it was only broadcasting this kind of very archaic metadata. once the in march, that scientists figured out. and they understood how these signals had been generated. they did some very stamp. they had to basically invent this math to figure out what it meant and what it meant. once they rolled up their sleeves and did it was at the plane had gone south. okay. so the marseilles data unequivocally says the plane went south and wound up in a pretty tight area and a southern indian ocean. now a major problem with that is that when they search that area, and as you know, sion no aircraft was found and they haven't really explained why they haven't found it. i have my own ideas and why they didn't find it. you can watch the documentary and find out my explanation. just a quick point of clarification for us said that i have insulted to hurry by implying that he committed suicide. i actually have explained a way that he might not have taken it. there's a way that he actually was a victim of a hijacked by somebody else. and so i actually agree with. there are,
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seems like a nice guy and i written it some way. i think she's, i had written about how investigators had found i pads on his home simulator that's i was reporting that i didn't create that or make it happen. i wrote about it. so i just want to make it clear that i, that, that to me is that, that piece of information actually one's counter to the theory that i have kind of publicly become associated. so it didn't really do me any good to talk about this. but just to clarify, to, from my perspective the, the home simulator data is against my theory, but i don't find it as positive. i think it could actually just be a coincidence. this case is so strange when you really get down into the nitty gritty of it. there is no one simple explanation that in a simple and easy way, tells us what must have happened. there's a lot of weird stuff and we have to really, really dial down into it to really understand, you know, the, i found
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a story doing some research on this that isn't included in the documentary. it came out in december. and it's about another piece of debris that experts say suggest that the, the plane, the landing gear was lowered before it hit the water and they said it would take an active pilot to do that. so i have you guys looked into that i have, i cannot familiar that piece of evidence. ok. basically there's people that are kind of running around and kind of throwing in their $0.02 and the media. at this point. there's kind of marginal media that will just take any random person's claim and run with people who are more familiar with aircraft parts of have read the claim and, and kind of dismissed it. it may well be a piece of m. s, 370. but this idea that you're able to prove all sorts of things about the crashes . i just it, i would consider it not very serious of florence. you're jumping in there. oh well about her, you know, the fact that her, some people more than others have very gifted, are finding
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a flat salmon jet sam on a very regular basis to me. i mean, it does not make sense for god's sake. i mean, i, i'm a sailor. i actually live on a boat, i'm on the sea more often than on land. and i know that you do not get ah, basically debris floating for thousands of miles a year's lead though things sink. unfortunately, andy's debris hands that started almost 2 years. actually, after the plane had crashed and remember that 50 days after or the crash tonia. but not that is that the greatest the person to to could. but anyway, it did say that was common sense that after 50 days, everything would be would her log the end with a song by now, yet 500 these liter, we start finding a fight, a flap wrong. and later we start finding all kind of our fur booter of clean debris
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. sorry, it makes no sense. well, let alex i want to ask you, let me bring in a comment from you to business from ask when come are and says, does the black box not admit signals to be located after the crash? yes, it does. i was just really funny about this earlier today, but i'm sure you're going to alex a good go products. oh, should i say that it does, and those, you know, they signals what when, when not detected are members in the very early days that they, they thought that they were hearing something or they, they were discovering those, those ultimately like pings up to the, to the surface but, but no, and no, no black box has been found. and what i think, and this is the issue i have with the netflix documentary, is that i'm not sure they left enough room for the facts because the facts, there are very few of them because we simply do not know. and i think it's ok to be able to say, we do not know because we do not know. and we know the malaysian government and a the cause for the result of the return of the,
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of the search and things that conversation can still take place while also admitting that there is very little we know. and because we do not know a lot, i don't think we should immediately be taking a variety of different theories and somehow treating them as closer to facts than the other when the facts are so few and, and that's okay. this is an unprecedented aviation mystery because of the nature in a way that this it and if i me jump in here like that, we don't know all the things ease highly in itself. problematic any cheese or clue . you know, there is a good her saying with discounts i think, which is that raising tracy's leads tracy's. and when i started my investigation, i essentially had to look for all the, a raised tracy's. and so you don't find the fact you find the missing facts because if that m a tree 70 had you turn had flown over these
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7 of species had crushed in the indian ocean. we would have all this evidence that we don't have. and so at some point, you have to ask yourself why as malaysia not been able to provide credible and consistent of read are image same for, i mean asia, clayton and also re senior radio. and if it's not, if they don't have the facts and if they don't have the images, et cetera, it's because the plane was never there remember has, well, if i can add another, i think i think i got it in general. just let me finish this. just let me finish this is emily 70 also flew over the pen ang at the butterworth air base internet, which is supposedly under australian command. they did not scramble jets with a rogue b triple 7 flying. 2 on the roof, the only good explanation for that is because there was never a massive
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b rogue or plane on above their head. so just just bringing a bit of common sense and, and not, let's not say that this is too technical. a big triple 7 is not technical, it's massive. it's as big as a building and 239 people is not technical. all of dismissing is not a minute and he's not microscopic. it's massive. oh, okay. i want to bring her why it's not ok to not know, and that's for the loved ones of these more than 200 people that are just gone missing. it's a face worse than death because there's no closure to it. here we actually have a comment from from one i'm, this is great not. hm. watch us. so much has happened in these 9 years. there was a baby who wasn't born yet. one of the next of kin was expecting when the main disappeared. and then b b who wasn't born yet, is now in school. i think already and may be extended to already 8 years old, 9 years old. and that's how much time has passed as me, who was
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a student at the time. and now, and so much has changed where people here who have become grandparents will become lives, become husbands. 9 years is a really long time. but i think what we've always tried to see that image is 317, not history. it's the future. because if we don't know what happened to him, it's 370. we cannot prevent it from happening again. so it could 8 us, but tomorrow it could be anyone who bods up name, and that is something that should be prevented at all costs. this is not a mystery that should be left in the street forever. it's just, it's just not acceptable. yeah. for more than 200 people. they just stopped but they haven't died. there's no history with them or i think she's abs and they she so right. you know, we can find a higgs bows on, we should be able to find a $210.00 foot long airplane. and to the idea that like hey, there's so much, we don't know, we don't know what we don't know. i have argued for 9 years that actually there is
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a lot that we can do with what we have in here. we have the radar data and we have the in mar, sad data. we have a, you know, a lot of information actually, and even the failure of this, of the c bed search is itself a very important and significant dataset. so what can we do? i feel that we can move forward. i don't, i'm not willing to say that this is a 9 year old cold case i want to move forward. i think there's 1st of all, and i think this, this documentary is an important 1st step to explain to people that look, we have a very rich data set when it's hard to understand. and i really need to kind of break down and explained for you. what is this in marsetta? what is a b, f o data? what is b t o data? what does it mean? how do we use it? what does it tell us? it's, it's not data like people have ever encountered before. it works in a slightly different way, and it leads us to have different. i can just say, well, my just got something to explanation. i just that can i tell the audience that the
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realize that the so famous in my said that i, which i know from a very good sources from the beginning to be flowed number one as never been used before, to locate the plane. number 2, as an ever as not achieve to locate a plane in 9 years. and number 3 has never been tried to look at a plane again. so as far as i'm concerned in my said, that thought is good for the does been. and whether it has a learning center, is that a, whether that is is something that you want to wait. hold on, alex, i hold alex that 30 seconds to finish lawrence. and then we're going to come to alex, finish lawrence, please. so basically whether he some value then whether he sees related to another plane or to some extent to which he $70.00. i've also had all kinds of explanation . but in all we can not try and find 259 people on the base of a sheet of data. that's not good enough. alex, i just, i, i don't see, i think is we're in
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a dangerous place if we are absolutely stating on air is fact that image that data is flawed. one thinks it's flawed. the other one thinks it was fake, you know, at, with respect and questioning how if the i coughed is not there, it's because it's not there. and you know, do, do we really need to revisit the subject of the size of the southern indian national, the indian ocean, you know, as a. busy how this was where i took issue with netflix, more platform being theories that in some aspects were you know, okay, you could, oh theories are on the table because there is very little that we know on the other hand, we can't be seen a throwing out opinions you started your centered self with as far as you are concerned and that is absolutely true. that is your opinion, that as far as you are concerned, but we can't be treating this as well. no, it's, it's less of a, just a geisha. was it not least because of what we just heard from the families where they all the ones caught up in this rollercoaster, clinging on to every what and theory instead i one dot did with legitimate wonder
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why there hasn't been more effort of government to come together to resume the such why we haven't had china applying pressure on malaysia given there was so many chinese nationals on board to resume the such. we are in even my clinician, today's like we are, we are in a different place in 2023 than we was even when the so changed in 2017 with innovation with technological advancements. i think, you know, of course to action cross government for little bit of unity just for the sake of the, the on board. the $200.00 on board would be where i would like that conversation to shift not to continue to throw out that if it's like this. and if it means that, then it means it's simply a fake door or quote good for the dustbin, which we are. the investigators have what, with the dates that have had, and you guys are familiar with the date set. i just think we're in a little bit of a dangerous place if we start immediately claiming it to be on outright. why it's not alex, i'm sorry, it's absolutely. i don't see such an outrage. i don't make such an outrageous claim . likely. it is based on
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a lot of research and needs based on excellent information that i got early on. and later on i keep receiving people. former employees off in my site will try to convince me. and to explain to me that the what he must said did with these that that doesn't make any sense. so and i'm like thank you guys, but i've worked that out already so i'm not wasting time anymore. honda in my said that i'm not saying the slightly i know it's a becoming to make, but i think it's very important to clarify at least indeed as long as i am concerned, clark, after i got it, i've got to stop you because i've got one minute left in the show, and i really want to ask jeff a question, and unfortunately i don't have time to set up your whole theory. jeff, but you have a theory that explored in the documentary. people can go on there and watch it, but it, it is entirely based on so on. be able to sneak into the avionic cabinet and control the plane from there. is that possible in this type of aircraft? oh, you're frozen jeff. ok. alex, can you answer that? is that possible in this type of aircraft?
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no, absolutely okay. that that's why you know, this is why there's been such a backlash and a from, from the industry to that very specific claim. i know. yeah. i'll give you the quick on that. no, perfect, short answer alex, i appreciate it because we are at the end of the show, but not the end of the story. it's only 9 years on the search will go on until these $200.00 plus families have an answer about what happened with their loved ones. thank you so much for joining us today. we'll see you next time. ah ah.
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