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instability. but even though the shadow of invasion remains a rockies continue to work to rebuild their country. today we ask, what is the legacy of them based on life in iraq? you know, but 1st let's hear from a couple younger rockies who share their memories from 2003 m and how to get an oil puzzle put on during the war. in 2003, we lived 3 bombing gunfire and explosions with fear and anxiety. we were not comfortable up. the situation is now better. and we remember the days of the war, but we hope that they are gone for good. i'm deny i knew of ice and boy, and then i woke up the heinous. there's an incident after the war that i'll never forget until this day. one of the neighbors who sells cds and cassettes was killed by armed men. the killing happened in the street and destruction was everywhere. i believe it was a result of the oppression and injustice by the former regime. well, hold on me telling them of on. so tony goes to discuss from garcia's up activist

and co founder of i q piece nuf, ossie and providence, rhode island professor and director of the center for middle east studies at brown university nadia ali. and with us from istanbul, journalist and author of a stranger in your own city gate. abdulla hod and of course there's one more seat at this table and that you, if you're watching live on youtube, see the box over there. we have a producer waiting to get your comments to me so i can get them to our guest. all right, i'm going to begin with you because i just recently read your article in the guardian with reflections about the day that you realized us troops had arrived and baghdad . you kind of walk me through that that, that memory well, i mean, i was in my house, i went to the balcony to the roof to actually, and i so this american helicopters, i realized what american because they're small and nimble, and british kerry and just kind of like an angry wasp, which i thought was a yes,

a little corruption because this will used to these kind of fat kind of rush in 8. so you know, that swayed left to right. and the neighbor comes and looks at the door and says, the americans are here, the yes i heard on the world service that and hello 100 kilometers to the so just know that here in the street and, and, and i can't describe this feeling up until today 20 years later, this is your fed for decades on america being this invader with had already award with america would been bombed by the americans for like 23 weeks in 9 to one we were bombed. and then you go down and you see american soldiers, there were marines actually and it's a, it's kind of a very weird, strange feeling. and i followed them, of course, that day. and i stood in the square and i watched stature been toppled. can i ask you about that real quick because it, that's a very famous moment and, and

a number of people believe that was a stage moment because they said that the young men on the square didn't have a rocky accents. they happen to have a flag that was pre saddam, you know, ready to put up on the statue. you were there in the square that they were, what was your impression of it? so i lived very close to that square. i mean, i live by the theater square, the national theater, and i followed the marine down the 2nd street. and we just kind of happened to be that statue there. that kind of very bad because a statue but also in front of the start to go these to famous hotels, the shirt and then the media. and we're all the international media with that. so i stood in the square, there were marines, there were probably $250.00 journalists, and much less smaller car. the fair. ok. so i stood there watching. it wasn't staged. and then the air up is trying to topple the statue. they had these big, kind of hammers the they hammered or the, the clint just tried some marbles. and then the marine probably was so

impatient that they drove back their vehicle for the news, pulled the statue. but before pulling one of the marines took or took out this american flag and put it on the face of the statue, this icon an image. and at the time i thought, what are you doing? this is kind of like, this is really bad, you're destroying, let, the iraq is at least still celebrate this fiction of elaboration. but later i came to realize that this marine was much more honest than anyone else because he's so the war as a war between united states and era. he didn't believe in all this rhetoric of flip ration and treat and what not. so, you know, if i was there, this was, it's such a metaphor though, it's such a metaphor for the, the success of the invasion for knocking out saddam, which lot of people i think had hope for. and then for immediately screwing it up, ah, in the name of this kind of got ga. gov,

go ahead. i don't think that act screw up. anything. i don't think that up pulling a flag screwed up the, the whole in fiction. i don't think drummer's mishandling screwed up things. i don't think the fact that americans came to iraq, so criminally negligent of what was happening, screwed up everything it was bound to fail. it was bound to have an american occupation of a middle eastern country after a 100 years of all, what's been happening in the middle east. it was bound to fail. there was no, i mean, it could have failed less dramatically. maybe without the extreme civil war would of the geologist floating into iraq, maybe. but the idea of invading a country then establishing a democracy. not any country, a country that you bombed in one to one, put under severe sanctions for 13 years and then again bombed in 2003 and come and told become a democracy was bunker bound to fall?

um, okay, for disclosure, a lot of our audience knows this on how to 0, but i was a marine at the time, our session, doha, at u. s. central command headquarters, when that statue went down to what are your memories of it? you were quite young at the time. right? yeah, i mean, like i said, i was like a gift teenager. year old was like has no idea what's going on except like the idea of like that, like when i think it was like in my memory that like my parents, my family, they have a memory of like couple of wars. and that's my 1st. so i was like try and like to do that comparison between like what is the difference between like, my older sisters like memory of like the other like 2 words and mine. what's gonna happen? didn't think much of like, what's going to happen after or like how it's going to my because like to be honest like what i was like thinking like, oh them he's like going to when and then like we're going to have another like day

or school because that's why we had like, used to why never like that, like that, like this whole experience will change the way i look at life or like the way that we all like my generations. how we are like now become like different in the way of thinking, the way of making decisions. and so more digging on that how to change the way you look at life. let's say that like i, i was, i was a dreamer who was like to be an artist and then i studied like find out. but then i realize that like all i know is emergency response driven my career at the moment because i'm better at it. i'm better at like, like doing, like in or just wanting to emergency because i have experienced the experience that i know how people feel. i know how people are afraid and that's like shifted my

whole life. gave me another like perspective into what i'd like the play out if you'd like for me is literally like not only i'm like for me is that like the ward itself, it is something but then like the aftermath of the war that's like really shape that tune doesn't seem like considering like life and death. i remember like some parts of my life. i lost like my humanity. i couldn't like for others who are like dying because people are like getting close to the street. and when i called them like, you know, to get like, like that, like warm like death is like it and bed. why those? how do you go from being nearer to death? because you're around all the time to now you're actually got to help with the earthquake and emergency response like what a transition there the transition is that like yeah. as i mentioned that like i'm

a person who has like experience for experience golf like some violence. and then at one point i was a few g s one time and at one time i was an i d p. i know like that. how people feel. so which makes me like no better how, like, what is the media you want for them? so that's why i was like, that's like how it's shifted. like now, like i know like i really understand like people in chicky when les it and also like and say yeah, they like over a sudden like these, not their houses and they're like, you know, less everything and badly, like, you know, a life. i totally get that feeling because i experienced it. so that may make me think about like what, like the priorities like to prepare and terms of like how we design or respond. so as a human italian, it's a weird thought, i think that thinks something so terrible, this war actually created this kind of loving compassionate thing that you're doing now for people who are suffering from disaster. that, that, that's, that's quite an arc nadia. i want to bring you in as the 20th anniversary of this

invasion as, you know, come upon us what, what have you been reflecting on what you've been thinking about? well, i mean, on one level i was remembering the time when i was part of the iraqi diaspora. i have a slightly different perspective because i wasn't inside iraq. i was a non done during the time of the invasion. and as many, many iraqis i'm in iraq since the 15th century, to experience several waves of migration and displacement. so that's a very large iraq, a diaspora. and interestingly that i asked probably quite divided over the question off the invasion. so there are actually some people in the iraq diaspora who were pushing for it. i was not part of that. i was part of the protest movement against sanctions and invasion. and i had together with some friends, started act together woman action for iraq. and i remember you of seeing the

pictures being part of or protest and feeling some sense of you know, hope and collector motivational, just and non done but globally. and i have to say that until the very end. i couldn't believe that it was actually going to happen. the day of the invasion act together started an exhibition in london called our lives in pieces. we had asked iraqis to provide us with some artifact or some piece that symbolized the relationship to iraq. and the day that we opened exhibition the invasion happened and i remember all of us just couldn't believe it. and of course i'm thinking about my family. i have some family members who lost their lives and for me, if i could them a clear sense, the invasion, i've been trying to really document the huge gap between the very rhetoric of liberation and reality. and my focus has been to show that women actually have been

the largest victim of the invasion and occupation. because not only half is seen the proliferation of violence and militia lawlessness kills. but we've seen an incredible increase in gender based by then and much greater shift to what social conservatism. so, i mean ice has documented the increase in the militia weatherstone. neosha when they would move into a neighborhood. the 1st thing that would do would target women would force them to, to where certain dress code would control their movements would control who they would be seeing. so. but i think it's also important to not portray iraq women as me a victims off the invasion occupation because just also saw that after 2003 that was

the mushroom, ming of woman, tribe organization. and you know, women really try to push against the us led occupation policy. i mean some people when i go and give talks and the superset bots, you know, the occupation gave women the quota. so a certain percentage 25 percent of all representation is women. but that's despite us objection the says iraq here, women's rights activists pushing and pushing until they would get this. so the 1st thing that dropped off the agenda of the us led occupation was women thrice. and any kind of commitment agenda base quality. i'm struck by your position before because you were saying yes were against the war, but at the same time you have to acknowledge that saddam actually is a really negative force. yeah, i'm in iraq. yes, yes. so i mean, i was not happy. many of us were not,

he was some of the us space or you ok based on to sanctions and auntie war activism . because i think they have a very much focusing on, you know, imperialism on to western policies, but they were glossing over the atrocities of the regime of saddam hussein. and for myself and many of my friends, it was really, really important to do both to say well to them saying is that the cater has been involved in terrible atrocities and human rights abuses. but that does not justify an invasion and occupation. i want to bring in another voice. this is from our community. this is from our al saudi tech. this up i have the feelings about the 20 to adversity. of the invention of like one of the site that iraq is more open to the work and the time compared with saddam

hussein and the other side. many bad things happening since then. many keys have been killed and there is a lot of hate speech and extremism. now yes, so you know, as a young marine, i believe what i was told when we were kind of, i was telling the war in the media basically as this liberation. that's not the way it turned out at all. that's not way turned out and turn out with with, with what he was saying mix results. i would say a whole lot of chaos get key key kind of bring us up like 20 years later. what. what do we have now in baghdad? i mean, i totally agree with you. i mean, this whole binary. i mean, up until now, 20 years later, people asked me so it was better for them or the occupation as it is of nothing, either mud dictator or an illegal occupation. i mean, eric, is that something else and in between? 20 is on. when are we now?

we are, you know, apart from all the disasters that happened with the war, apart from all the atrocities that commented after what the war enshrined in iraq and shined a political system. although democratic on paper, it's based on sic terry and ethnic quarter. what we call an out of the hassle and that my house assistant ensures that there is this division of spoils, the division of state resources. and you end up with one of the most corrupt governments or countries in the world era. today is $12000000000000.00 a year budget. what kind of oil money. and yet some parts of add up some parts of, but about itself is on par with one of some of the worst countries in the world in terms of poverty. it's, it's in the bottom of everything, bottom, transparency to national, you and d, p, you call it. so what is out?

this is a mutant state. it is democratic in terms of constitution, but it has a penal code that goes back to the by this regime of 1968 the kind of the freedom that, which was the only thing that was good outcome of a kind of a freedom of expression arts creativity of writing, whatever you want to call it, that is being eroded as we speak. and, and the other thing which is kind of very, very important. personally, i think is the state of anna is this kind of very weird newton state. it's not here defined 20 years later. it's still trying to define it's, it's trajectory, it's nation of rhetoric and all these things. so i'm getting those. yeah, not one of them to you too, and i'm going to come to you. if it's a lot of people, youtube are sharing their memories of where they were when the rock war started.

this is american that says that she felt helpless, hated bush, and the guy who threw the shoe at him was a hero. that's catherine. we have a lot of, there are some iraqis and they're sharing memories as well. so just what i want to say to you to community is i love it keeps your memories. keep talking about this. in the meantime, nodded yes, please jump in. yeah, i just feel that it's really important given that it's 20 years to also trust that i mean, i personally feel uncomfortable to not to mention that it's not only the us led invasion and say you asked that of course, there were other international military troops and particularly the ok, but i think we also need to stress the responsibility off corrupt factory and iraqi politicians. and yes, it is true that the us that invasion facilitated them getting into power. but iraqis are not shove pockets. i mean, many of them where advocates of the invasion,

many of them were complicit. many of them since then have been, as a very much pointed out, have been incredibly corrupt. have been also, it's harry and i mean we have come full circle again and terms of political repression. and of course we also need to think about regional factors. i mean, that's iran, the how there may be, there's gotta, i don't think we can live also in this sort of world where we can reduce everything to the us invasion. this is not at all to demand ish, the responsibility and the facts. but there are many, many actors, and many factors that half lat to the situation that we find ourselves and to day. but also picking up on us race, we're saying there is the new generation is really trying to resist. and i half

hope because the new generation house been out on the street. it's protesting. it is very much opposed to sectarianism. it is using not just a traditional forms of politics, but also creativity, culture, a film to express their descent and also to express their vision for the future. and they just want to live. they want to live, quote, unquote normal lives. you know, so in 6 i'm hearing a thread here again, you just mentioned about a kind of a loss of the arts model. you just said that the younger generation might be engaging with the arts again. and then i say move over there who dreamed of being an artist, but spends her life responding to disasters it there as a rock bound, it's identity, the post war that isn't defined by the war yet. move. i think it's like we had us to like, let's say it's like looking at like the past 12 years. we have been like in

different like struggles we have the like into different like to say people like trying like different ways like i 11 like to be honest like i lose hope that like we will have like let's say like a generation that is really born like to that, to the country and knows like, like that considered like what we need as iraqis not like what is like my sect or like my background or like where, like, i'm belonging like one clued in militia as far. forty's or so on. the all the like considered until october, october like, did that change? did something like really important? like after like if we look at like, like after like the sectarian was like iraq. iraq have been divided into silos like based on sex background. so like, i'm from back that back that have been like silos as neighborhood which like lead inches like generations that like we had not really makes among each other that

like that mix that like maybe like the different like the other like generations that have been living like together like we didn't feel that and the generations like comes after me october or like to read how i love to call it should be and broke like that to sri makes like everybody together. i have been like in plenty of square like we would like all together and people were like talking about like i'm from like this area and like we are like all together even so like we are in different backgrounds. i had took, took a driver who was like, telling me that like, you know, i was like, i'm really glad now that like i have a friends who are like one of them as a doctor. one of them is an artist, and one of them is the thing. get the musician then, like i will be sitting like together, like in one group, i've only got about a minute left, but i know a rock is reconsidering its constitution right now. they want to have hope that a new constitution might offer a new hope for iraq's future real quick gave. so i totally agree with that is

a moment of happiness that a moment of a trans, sectarian post sectarian politics that took place. and that was to spend 20192020. this is a new generation, a post civil war generation. now. uh, you know, the biggest, one of the biggest casualties of the war is democracy itself. because for the new generation, when you tell them parliament, they think corruption, when you tell them elections, they think people selling the votes of buying votes, so that is evicted. so talking about changing the constitution is that also have been double sided sort because people are so fed up with disc there. this idea of democracy. i had a cold for bringing back a strong mckay. i got to stop it because we've got about half a minute left. i just want to think all 3 of you for being on the program today. i want to remind our viewers. the actual anniversary of the invasion is march 20th alger english will cover it all day so. so come check back in here for that. and

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