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the mountain top stories on al jazeera, johnny's president, choosing ping and russian president vladimir putin, a calling for responsible dialogue to resolve the war and ukraine. the fallen talks in moscow on tuesday put in said chinese proposals could be used as the basis of a peace settlement middleman. what bolona says, solutions that i see is give many points of chinese peace plan. a very similar to the stance of russia and can be used for peace talks when the west and ukraine are ready to negotiate. but however, we do not see that they already at the moment. cooper, stuff like a bit, then you will stay miss me to global ministers club. but i, we learned that the ministry of defense, if the u. k declared, he would supply tanks to the ukraine and also uranium enriched weapons to ukraine. i think that the west will now fight russia to the last ukranian bush and we shall always respect and abide by the un charter. we will always promote peace and also
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project supported by french and chinese companies will transform the region but environmental activists. they will harm sensitive lands and undermine efforts to reduce carbon emissions from fossil fuels. in the 1st of 3 shows, related to the global climate emergency, we're going to look at the east african oil initiative and see what it means for communities and the environment. joining us for today's conversation, ernest re bondo, is executive director of the petroleum authority of uganda government organization . he's in kampala, patience knob, who color is a climate justice activist affiliated with fridays for future movement. she's also represented of the most affected people and areas, organization and completing our line up for me, you gone in capital, is ellison kado honda? he's an oil and gas lawyer and is also secretary of the uganda chamber of mines and petroleum. hey, there's one more person in this conversation that you,
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if you're watching this on you to help me out, join me, see the box over there. we have a producer there waiting to get your comments to me so i can share it with our guest and you and i will, we can do this thing together, right? right now let me tell you about this oil project. there are 2 oil fields in western uganda that are now under development. what will eventually be the world's longest electrically heated pipeline and it will carry crude oil to appoint an eastern tanza, nia, export exports are expected in 2025. ernest, i want to begin with you tell us about the benefits of this project. thank you very much, and i'm happy to be on this show that you've molesting me. oh, thanks for being harassed. the oil project saw it at a very exciting and significant development opportunity for both uganda on dunsen. here they are very significant because of one day investment. they represent over
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$20000000000.00 united states dollar investment. and this is in comparison to the g d p. for instance of uganda, which is about $47000000000.00. they also significant because they are providing opportunities for employment. tens of thousands of people are going to be employed on these projects. they also provide opportunities for skills development. they provide opportunities for, whoops, ah, provision of providing goods and services that is for companies and enterprises. they also provide opportunities for the training and capacity building of these enterprises. also importantly, they provide opportunities for technology transfer. these projects are not just going to happen in future. we are now seeing them happening, and that's why i said it was very exciting. earnest. we can see people get, can i ask you because i've seen these products happen internationally over and over again. they promised local jobs, but then they bring in experts from other places. do you have
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a minimum threshold of the percentage of jobs that will go to locals there? where we think that's an area that is called a local content or national participation. and it's an area that uganda has concentrated on, on his tons and he has gone sitting on either petroleum afloat of uganda, which i hid is charged with the responsibility of ensuring that national content happens. that weight supposed up in and i think we are doing quite well because the 5 areas that we are looking at specifically under local but spatial ease of skills development. ah, employment ah, enterprise development, us beauty, the capacity of companies then provision of woodson services by these companies and then technology transfer and what we're seeing so far, ernest, i got a country answer just a little bit short so everyone else can get him to do you have a minimum percentage of employment that will go to locals. has one been set a number? yes, yes,
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yes. what's the number in the national but special that we expect is 40 percent and we expect that this is the investment is going to be made. 40 percent is going to come to uganda and this is not just poured out of that box. we have x ok. it's during the experiment period where we achieved 28 percent. so now now we have a 40 percent. okay. pam. so risha so we're talking 40 percent going to local workers as it is that is that good enough? patience? oh, thank you so much. my name is patience. i'm from uganda and implicitly to be off top of his chair. and i'm so disappointed by that that the tech miss being made by the picture, the end of the retail, uganda. because 1st of all, this pipeline is to only benefit the ridge, especially those in power and those that how can really access that benefee giving jobs to local communities. i don't think it will be as
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a tent because we have seen this company, not only like i said in such projects, but even infrastructure, the bombing, where they bring expense from other countries. because the contracts have been taken off by, by foreign countries. and these, i don't think it, we're ready to pull into communities in my, in my country. this is janet, when you come to court, i passed your georgia to your day to the people that georgia hold on. i need to clarify. i got a fight. clarify with pointless children on this patient listless letter. ernest, what do you need clarify? i'm just saying that when we talk about local but special needs onto aspects, it has the national but special which is for the entire country. and it has community but special ah community, but special needs also measured. and already we are seeing about 20 percent of the national but special needs community, but special both in terms of employment. i didn't damsel provisional would some
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services. these are numbers that, that bit roy, i'm afraid of uganda. michelle's and reports i'm, this is my joke. i want to bring in another video and this is a video comment patience and i'm to come right back to you, but this is from landry. an inter street interest day is worth 350 africa dot org. and i think he's touching on one of your points here. it rolled us it's are uncertain. does the oil and in come with st. paul development in both your gun in carson air for trimming. reason, reason one is that both countries are are minority share hor does. in the joint project, we've respectively 15 percent versus 70 percent said between our total and smoke extracted model which make it really harder for the low chords to be de, we and beneficiaries of it and officially the practitioner so leaving along the pipeline route to 3rd one is how do both government, again,
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are going to prioritize that in come, if are directed towards a priority strategic areas like infrastructure, agriculture, tourism de could be a real benefit. but if not, the when full of from the project is likely to go to the country's leads going directly into depth and interest for payment for what she that ation of the minute in. so i live requested elisha oh, hold on a 2nd. i hold on a 2nd, ernest patient, i'm let me finish where i haven't gotten ellison into the show yet. honestly, i get that did take apart for just a moment. fact, let's get everyone. if everyone else in the back the report to be brought paces didn't i feel like now when i want patients to finish? what will come back to you or not? okay. so patience was landry. touching on what you're talking about, how the money will be shared here. honestly,
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i want to be frank with people who are viewing us here. that the money will not be equally distributed among the people, the people who are victims already. right now those ends up being displaced. why have they not be compensated already after that have been compensated? it's not equivalent to what they really had before. this is actually evidence of the outcome of this pipeline. first of all, this, this pipeline before like setting it up, it was like a human population project. i don't know how much they will make these are the right way because it is already by letting human rights children. and i know that going to school because that there is, that can be benefited from a fish. i mean, can not get that. you're going to school, people have those jobs and that job that played a job job up to go. if you was earnest,
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we are not holding that happening and i'm not confident with what is happening. and when we look in that this whole system, the pipeline is an ecological disaster. it is also not minding the purchase agreement that was a big cohen and even of the late the labeling woods when it comes to human resource natural resources. patience well is t as sad. i feel like victoria is already. i reason very simple covering a lot of ground natural resources about patients. i want to break this down, hold on ernest. i want to bring in some people who actually have a placement. but let's bring in these 2 video comments from people who actually have taken a different perspective on displacement. put it in for more quiet and when you me, it is not a bad project because it is changing people's life. the 1st impact that i have seen, i'll use it in the village who will not go into school. they stayed at home and
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life was hard for them. but right now because of the projects use have got jobs and they have money. that is what i can see right now in my village, even if the money does not come to me, the use having a lot, a lot of my money was unable to pick up and put them to their mind if i decide. but what are ellison ellison, i want to go to you? we have one person that said that some people are benefiting from being moved. another person who said no, they're going to fight moving. and i also want to bring in for you this is a comment from our youtube audience named david bong, who says, how would this oil exploration explore inclusive green economy by blending petroleum products with biofuels, and opening avenues for energy farming. if so, at what ratio can you answer that? awesome? that's what i'm so that maybe if i could just go back to the conversation, then having and if i could also said good evening to those who are watching us and
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good afternoon. good morning from wherever they're watching us from. i think the important thing is when you talk about the benefits of this project is to give it a listing, realistic view. we can sit here and say that some people are happy, cyclical, and not happy, but ultimately what this project is supposed to do is supposed to, to bring development into your gander. thou, just for an argument saying that some of the jobs that have been gotten at temporary jobs, and after those jobs are to those people down the temporary walk, then what happens to them at the moment they don't have jobs. so a temporary job and no jobs, better than temporary jobs. we have to understand that if we are going to develop our country, we're going to develop uganda. we have to look at development in the holistic manner. we have to understand that we have a resource in this country that needs to be developed, and once this resource is developed, it will bring up various benefits. this project is available upon the months. maybe
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it is as the construction of the home address check impatient binary, which is the construction of our pipeline. those to that, that, that integrated budget is about and commercializing gas making it liquefied petroleum gas. at the moment, the moment we start production, our 100000 metric tons of liquid by petroleum gas will be available, which shall help to replace trees that are be weight. i'll meet that, you know, must district hamish up on him. we must ellison distinguish between how many must distinguish between poverty, conservation and environmental conservation pay elliton. sorry, like bishops for that much that, that now are you just near waldron kiss for public dickens of mission? hold on else. that number, you just threw out. how many tons did you say there would produce of liquid natural gas machine, latest liquid. i had a good amount of liquid rain to any on the and yet the lens and the emissions off
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a down of the or 300000000 ton of fiction. no, no, not sorry. i didn't tell you josh, that the missions off of that that would, that you're talking about would be over 300000000 tons of emissions of carbon into the atmosphere. no, no, no, no, no, josh, i'll give you an example. if you google this, anyone can google this. norway produces 2000000 barrels of oil by di, but they're said to emit that you 3000000 by what science of logic is it that your gun does 200000 barrels will emit to mo, carbon dioxide that norway's, that 54000000 metric tons of carbon dioxide by yet is fiction, it is produced. fictitiously, it is the product of imagination, the highest order paid on fact. you know that, that you gun them oil project will produce not more than 15 kilograms of carbon dioxide for every banner of oil, which is lower than the global average pace. i'm fact is that the entire argument against east african kudos by blake is an argument that is really written more
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fictitiously than allison one patient. can you respond to that? yes, but the bottom they stuck up by development and then go to emissions. but the quote you got for the vote me read that is going to just what the us because what i plan to construct, if you choose to emit them to get the emissions you get to admit that if both went fishers local to community georgia, we already know when we need us, i was kind of like so i can hear patients in the middle. go go ahead patient, hold on. i'm going to come to you just next. are you going to is that tools? no country when it comes to the climate crisis, people have already lost their life. people have those cultures. people have those traditions. people have already look that property. how much more like should we
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lose already in the but the car, i'm more jack. it is heating up people dying than that, dying down and you are continuing to, to support such an equality point. you said such a climate both in making. i believe that he should resort to something else. it's not really what the book meant for you, and it should embed billions of money in renewable energy just because it is actually the cheapest one to us. but they resort to profit, but not the people. they read books to exploitation, they but they, they read, read not to continue it to continue to colonial lays ation of this, this nation. i don't believe that he called project and i believe called project to was an african not uganda. ok. we come from, we all know where you guys live on, but things of that sort of level image. listen, listen, listen, we're we're,
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we're all talking over each other. no one's catching what anyone saying, but i'm looking at are you tube audience right now? we're going a lot of activity here, ernest, i'm gonna throw this question to you. this is from allen charity, and i'm also going to bring in a video comment here before we go to ernest, stand by for just a 2nd. allan wants to know from our guest, the government of uganda and the petroleum authority of you got to have kept all the petroleum agreements confidential secrets from the general public, or citizens. i want to know why. ok, now let's bring in. bob, a bare, bare gay. he is an environmental activist here. check this out. lindsey custodian, the legislative in africa is facing and lost danger because of this pipeline. that is, he did over 50 degrees cities. yes. drilling over 500 with intellect. alba has caused disruption in that she species. and the people that
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leave one that lake havasu know we are to have the livelihood. and when you talk about one of these, you are listed organize this, you're left with, have been close and we think better december say i don't diesel pipeline is unnecessary yet. that was actually a picture of bob in arrested there. what's going on with the secrecy of the contracts, ernest josh, they environmental standards. let me just talk about this fust. the environmental standards of the oil and gas projects are the international one, sit by the international finance corporation. this is what happens all over the water. so it's not correct to come to you gun that which is implementing the same standards and begin to give the impression that it's wrong. secondly, as i said at the beginning, the oil and gas projects in uganda, it developmental but unity. they're not a war like these people are trying to present because in a war,
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the biggest cojo does it truth. what we're listening to here is half truths. if i go to the incomes before i come for the agreement with the parties of uganda is not just to focus on the money that will be on when you said oil. their 40 so of uganda is to make maximum benefit over there. but special ugandans before the oil comes out of the ground. and already we are seeing that out of the $6000000000.00 that has been invested close to $2000000000.00 has gone to uganda and companies. no country in the world would not appreciate, i know, but you know like that when it comes to the agreements being available. this international standard of transparency is the extract div industries transparency initiative. this is ain't a national standard. uganda is the member of this initiative. and has made available the document in accordance with that uni shit you members of parliament
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have these documents, the people who want uganda's agreements in the libraries. and when the website need to go to need to show us agreements of countries that are best practice. pete, the united states beat the united kingdom, beat norway, where the album in. so those countries in libraries on websites ok aren't there. i'm going to bring him peter on what he wants to do with corporate affairs. all that was done that officer from a corporate affairs officer from the do gone to national oil company. and here we'll just check out what he says about national parks and gone to don't just put it. can you going to execute it based on the decision? but the assessment that have been executed at the highest level internationally. and the aim to 1st of all, avoid impacts with the natural habitats that have animals the habit of the human beings and where we can't avoid. we minimize impact innovation, international bugs,
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and that's the only one national buck is affected and we have made an impact to get to 0 point one percent of the land. and i saw this national park ellison, i want to go to you. i'm showing the years my computer right now, this is from the new york times, and it is about the message that came out this week from scientists. i just want to read this quote. now i'm going to highlight this on my computer so that our viewers can see it. there is a rapidly closing window of opportunity to secure a livable and sustainable future. for all this is backed by hundreds of scientists and 195 countries agreed to this one more part that it says here. the report plainly warns that the world is on track to exceed the threshold at least temporarily. for the 1st half of the 20 thirty's, that's less than 10 years away. the actions taken during this decade will largely determine what happens for centuries to come. the secretary general is 9 nations
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antonio terrorist called it a quote, a how to guide to diffuse the climate time bomb. how can opening a new oil project, a new fossil fuels project, not speed up. thank you very much, just for that and let me try and fix my answer. how can opening up the new fossil projects. don't speed that up is up. frankly speaking, a very simplistic way of looking at it as we speak right now. the united states of america consumes 20000000 barrels of oil. patty, we are look talking about a project that is consuming 250000 barrels a day. it would, it would make more sense if walking america to cut its consumption by just a 1000000 barrels, that he, that the world is not livable for some people right now i had visions talking about your gun to being vulnerable to climate change. we only vulnerable more vulnerable than people in los angeles because of poverty were only more vulnerable than people
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in los angeles because of lack of opportunity, climate change and poverty are 2 things that need to be fought together. when what we, what we are being asked to do right now, is to set a new project student come on board. meanwhile, historical producers, countries up in the e. u. in the united states that are the people that are consuming 20000000 barrels of wealth at the should continue. but those of us are consuming 37000 barrels should stop, you know, happening. josh was now ellison, you know, you're talking about consciousness, your time consuming rather than production. and i don't think anyone would disagree with you. you know, the western countries that you name the should lower their production and our consumption as well. yes. yes. you just the point is this is the point, is this on, on the thought else? point is this, you increase if you increase, we have seen, if you, if you said don't, don't bring you a projects on board, let the price will go up. we saw it up in last year when the appraisal will goes up
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. the only thing that happens is boil companies become richer. joe biden said, one of the oil companies is rich of an good. what happens to the quote, the, to the higher the prices? i hear what you're saying, allison, but the scientists are saying we will not add more fossil fuels to the problem. we need to reduce it. i'm all control you josh. josh. the thing is that the social sadness and we'll see jewish, tough to stand that. and i would like to say that the algorithm into our own de wowed is that you're going to transition from foreseen fears to clean up energies quickly or not. won't come into those up any now when you come with a sense, he says that it's happening. is it happening fast enough moving from fossil fuels to green energy? no, i'm saying it's happening differently from each country. uganda's problem now is not foreseen fears, uganda as biggest contribution to climate chin is the cutting donald forests on this. oil and gas project is actually going to help the cutting down old forest by
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having that done to be g used instead of jock or on filed. so you need to look into the 2nd guys. i think i've got to stop you there, ernest and i want to thank you, earn us ellis and patience for being on the show today with us all the time we have now. look, we're not just looking at uganda. this is the 1st the 3 shows looking at us. so join us for the 2nd show tomorrow, where we look at the global climate emergency. we're going to turn to alaska, where the oil and gas industry has a controversial new drilling project that the u. s. government has just approved. thank you for watching. ah, mm hm. mm hm.
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a cheers from school children in the island community of east end. the excitement is over the arrival of their teacher. fransisco velasquez . there's only one school and chaos casinos. and valencia school is the only teacher the fact that these children are able to have an education at all the result of years of hard work from the local community here in cairo. sketchy at the store. this year, the u. s. government announced $33000000.00 to increase access to education, part of a broader strategy by the by did administration to address the root causes of migration from central america. critics. in honduras, however, warned that ramp and government corruption means that foreign assistance too often goes astray. ah.
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