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a welcome to the stream. i'm josh rushing government leaders in uganda and tans in the essay. a major oil project supported by french and chinese companies will transform the region, but environmental activists. they will harm sensitive lands and undermined efforts to reduce carbon emissions from fossil fuels. in the 1st of 3 shows, related to the global climate emergency, we're going to look at the east african oil initiative and see what it means for communities and the environment. ah. joining us for today's conversation, ernest re bondo, is executive director of the petroleum authority of uganda government organization . he's in kampala, patience nob who color is a climate justice activist affiliated with fridays for future movement. she's also represented of the most affected people and areas, organization and completing our line up for me. gone in capital is ellison kado honda? he's an oil and gas lawyer and is also secretary of the uganda chamber of mines and
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petroleum. hey, there's one more person in this conversation that you, if you're watching this on you to help me out, join me, see the box over there. we have a producer there waiting to get your comments to me so i can share it with our guest and you and i will, we can do this thing together, right? right now let me tell you about this oil project. there are 2 oil fields in western uganda that are now under development. what will eventually be the world's longest electrically heated pipeline and it will carry crude oil to appoint an eastern tanza, nia, export exports are expected in 2025. ernest, i want to begin with you tell us about the benefits of this project. thank you very much, and i'm happy to be on this show that you've been wasting me. oh, thanks for being harassed. the old project saw it at a very exciting and significant development opportunity for both uganda on tons. and here they are very significant because a one day investment
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a day represent over $20000000000.00 united states dollars, the investment. and this is in comparison to the g d. p, for instance of uganda, which is about $47000000000.00. they also significant because they are providing opportunities for employment. tens of thousands of people are going to be employed on these projects. they also provide opportunities for skills development. they provide opportunities for, whoops, ah, provision of providing goods and services that is for companies and enterprises. they also provide opportunities for the training and capacity building of these enterprises. also importantly, they provide opportunities for technology transfer. these projects are not just going to happen in future. we are now seeing them happening, and that's why i said it was very exciting. earnest. we can see people get, can i ask you because i've seen these products happen internationally over and over again. they promised local jobs,
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but then they bring in experts from other places. do you have a minimum threshold of the percentage of jobs that will go to locals there? where we think that's an area that is called local content or national participation. and he said an area that uganda has concentrated on and it does. and he has gone, said renting on i, the petroleum effect of uganda, which i hid, is charged with the responsibility of ensuring that national content happens. that weight supposed up in. and i think we are doing quite well because the 5 areas that we are looking at specifically under local but spatial is skews development. ah, employment ah, enterprise development, us building the capacity of companies. then provision of woodson services by these companies. and then technology transfer and what we're seeing so far, ernest, i got a country answer just a little bit short so everyone else can get him. do you have a minimum percentage of employment that will go to locals?
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has one been said number? yes, yes, yes. what, what's the number in the national but special that we expect is 40 percent and we expect that this is the investment is going to be made. 40 percent is going to come to uganda and this is not just poured out of that box. we have x, okay, as during the experiment period where we achieved 28 percent. so now now we have a 40 percent. okay, pension. so risha. so we're talking 40 percent going to local workers as it is that is that good enough patience? oh, thank you so much. my name is patience. i'm from uganda and am effective to be out of his chair. and i'm so disappointed by miss being made by the picture the authority of uganda. because 1st of all, this pipeline is to only benefit the rich, especially those in power and those that how can really access that benefee giving jobs to local communities. i don't think it will be as
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a tent because we have seen this company not only like a and such projects, but even infrastructure, the bombing, where they bring expense from other countries. because the contracts have been taken off by, by foreign countries. and these, i don't think it will really suckle into communities in my, in my country. this is david, when you come to court, i boss your take your should be your day to the people that georgia hold on. i need to clarify. i gotta fight, clarify, with pointless children on this patient with was lose her ernest, what do you need to clarify that? i'm just saying that when we talk about local but special needs onto aspects, it has the national but special which is for the entire country. and it has community but special ah community, but special needs also measured. and already we are seeing about 20 percent of the national but special needs community,
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but special both in terms of employment. i didn't damsel provision of woodson services. these are numbers that, that bit roy, i'm afraid of uganda measures and reports. i'm, this is my joke. i want to bring in another video and this is a video comment patience. and i'm to come right back to you. but this is from landry, an interstate interest day. he's worth 350 africa dot org. and i think he's touching on one of your points here. it rolled us, it's her uncertain does the oil and income winced for development in both your gun and cousin. here for trimming reason, reason one is that both countries are are minority. she who does in the joint project, we've respectively 15 percent versus 70 percent said between our total and snow are extracted model which make it really harder for the low codes or to be the real beneficiaries of it and efficient to publish. and also living along our game plan
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route to 3rd one is how to go. both government again are going to prioritize and at in come if are directed towards a priority strategic areas like infrastructure, agriculture, tourism de could be a real benefit. but if not da winful, of from the project is likely to go to the countries leads going directed into depth and interest payment for quasi duration of the minute in. so while if requested elisha oh, hold on a 2nd. i hold on a 2nd, ernest, or pay to the military facility where i haven't gotten ellison into the show yet. honestly, i get that did take apart for just a moment. fact, let's get everyone. if everyone else here, robot, the back, the report to be brought pages, do you feel like no, i want patients to finish her quote, we'll come back to you or not. okay. so patience was landry. touching on what you were talking about, how the money will be shared here. honestly,
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i want to be frank with people who are viewing us here. that the money will not be equally distributed among the people, the people who are victims already. right now those ends up being displaced way. how do we not be compensated already after that have been compensated? it's not equivalent to what they really had before. this is actually evidence of the outcome of this pipeline of all this, this pipeline before like setting it up. it was like a human population project. i don't know how much they will make these the right way because it is already by letting human rights children another level going to school because that there is, that can be benefited from a fish. i mean can not get that. you're going to school. people have those jobs and that job that played a job job up to
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go. if you was earnest, we got a whole happening and i'm not confident we what is happening. and when we look in that this whole system, the pipeline is an ecological disaster. it is also not minding the purchase agreement that was, i've been calling and even of the late delayed the food when it comes to human resource, natural resources patients. where do i select victoria? it is already, i reason i'm taking full, discovering a lot of ground natural resources about patients. i want to break this down. hold on ernest. i want to bring in some people who actually have a replacement. but let's bring in these 2 video comments from people who actually have taken a different perspective on displacement. what it is from la jolla and when you me, it is not a bad project because it is changing people's life. the 1st impact that i have seen are you said in the village who will not go into school. they stayed at home and
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life was hard for them. but right now because of the projects, the use of got jobs and they have money, and that is what i can see right now in my village. even if the money does not come to me, the use happens when i look a lot on my way to lot of money for some people will say, nbc, there we are going to take a look. so with people who lose their money. so they decided to fly. but for leslie, who's our ellison ellison, i want to go to you. we have one person there said that some people are benefiting from being moved. another person who said no, they're going to fight moving. and i also want to bring in for you, this is a comment from our youtube audience named david a bog, who says, how would this oil exploration explore inclusive green economy by blending petroleum products with biofuels, and opening avenues for energy farming? if so at what ratio can you answer that allison? but one so that maybe i could just go back to the composition then having
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a different it also said good evening to those who are watching osland. good afternoon. good morning. from where were they watching us from? i think the important thing is when you talk about the benefits of this project is to give it up. we'll listy realistic view. we can city are unsafe that um some people are happy soc equal and not happy, but ultimately what this project is supposed to do is supposed to, to bring development into your grandeur. thou just want an argument saying that some of the jobs that have been gotten that temporary jobs, and after those jobs are to those be broke down the temporary walk, then what happens to them at the moment they don't have jobs. so a temporary job and no jobs, better than temporary jobs. we have to understand that if we are going to develop our country, we're going to develop uganda. we have to look at development in a whole new stick manner. we have to understand that we have a resource in this country that needs to be developed. and once this resource is developed, it will bring of various benefits. this project is available upon the month means
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it is the construction of their home address translation binary, which is the construction of our pipeline. those to does that, that integrated budget is about am commercializing gas making it liquefied petroleum gas. at the moment, the moment we start production, 900000 metric tons of liquid by petroleum gas will be available, which shall help to replace trees that are be weight. i'll meet that, you know, in a month district dealership, and then we must, wellington distinguish between how many must distinguish between poverty, conservation and environmental conservation. a elliton, sorry, like bishops, that much, that in our interest near waldron kiss or public dickens of mission. hold on else. that number you just threw out. how many tons did you say that would produce of liquid natural gas machine, latest liquid. and i haven't thought, you know, like in franklin any on a thumb is leant and the emissions off
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a down of the or 300000000 times of section. no, no, not sorry. i didn't hear you josh. that the emissions off of that that would, that you're talking about would be over $300000000.00 tons of emissions of carbon into the atmosphere. no, no, no, no, no, josh, i'll give you an example. if you google this, anyone can google this. norway produces 2000000 barrels of oil by di, but they're said to emit that you 3000000 by what science of logic is it that your gun does, 200000 barrels will emit more carbon dioxide than norway's. the 54000000 metric tons of carbon dioxide by yet is fix should it is produced. fictitiously, it is the product of imagination, the highest order paid on fact either that the ugandan oil project will produce not more than 15 kilograms of carbon dioxide for every banner of oil, which is lower than the global average patient fact is that the entire argument
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against east african kudos by blake is an argument that is really written more fictitiously than allison one patient. can you respond to that? yes. um they stuck a bunch of uh, mint and then go to emissions plus the low. you're going to go for a development or ad that you cook is going to just what's been asked. because what this i plant is cost truck to get used to meet again, that's an emissions. it means that it wasn't a community. georgia. we already had to bother with us. i was like so i can hear patients in the middle. go go ahead patient. hold on. i'm going to come to you just next. are you going to is that 12 level country when it comes to the climate crisis? people have already lost their life. people have those that culture as people have those traditions. people have on the ready list that property. how much more legs
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should we lose already in the puts of car and my job is heating up. people are dying. i wasn't that dying down and you are continuing to, to support such an ecology could be such a, such a claim. it won't in i'm making, i believe that he does. should resort to something else. it doesn't look, i'm not really what the book meant for you guys. it should invest billions of money in renewable energy because it is actually the cheapest. what to you. but they resort to profits, but not the people they resort to exploitation they, they, they really result to continuing to continue on lation of this, these nations. i don't be name with the ico project and i believe this call project to western africa, not uganda on ok. to come from here, we all know who you already got a long list of on
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a mission. but i mean, i think listen, listen, listen we're, we're all talking over each other. no one's got you. what do you want to say? but i'm looking at, are you too bought right now? we're going a lot of activity here. ernest, i'm gonna throw this question to you. this is from allen charity. and i'm also going to bring in a video comment here before we go to your earnest stand by for just a 2nd. allan wants to know from our guest, the government of uganda and the petroleum authority of you got to have kept all the petroleum agreements. confidential secrets from the general public or citizens . i want to know why. ok, now let's bring in. bob, a bare, bare gay. he is an environmental activist here. check this out. lindsey custodian, the legislative in africa is facing and lost again just because of the pipeline. that is he did over 50 degrees cities. yes. drilling over 500 ways in lake alba has caused disruption in that she species and the
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people that leave one that lake have no way to have their livelihood. and when you talk about one of these, you listed good organizational network. we have been close and we think better december say i don't despite blame is unnecessary yet. that was actually a picture of bobby and arrested there. what's going on with the secrecy of the contracts, ernest josh day environmental standards. let me just talk about these fust. the environmental standards of the oil and gas projects. are they international one sit by the international finance corporation? this is what happens all over the world. so it's not correct to come to you gun that which is implementing the same standard and begin to give the impression that it's wrong. secondly, as i said at the beginning, the oil and gas projects in uganda i it developmental, but unity. they're not
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a war like these people are trying to present because in a war, the biggest cojo does it truth. what we're listening to here is half truths. if i go to the incomes before i come for the agreement with the parties of uganda is not just to focus on the money that will be. and when you said oil, they're 40. so of uganda is to make maximum benefit over there. but special ugandans before the oil comes out of the ground. and already we are seeing that out of the $6000000000.00 that has been invested close to $2000000000.00 has gone to uganda and companies. no country in the world would not appreciate annual, but unity like that when it comes to the arguments being available. this international standard of transparency is the extract div industries transparency initiative. this is international standard. uganda is the member of this initiative and has made available the document in accordance with that uni shit. you members
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of parliament have these documents, the people who want uganda's agreements in the libraries. and when the website need to go to need to show us agreements of countries that are best practice, pete, the united states beat the united kingdom, beat norway, where the algorithm in some of those countries in libraries on websites ok aren't there. i'm going to bring him, peter, anybody want louis supplemental corporate affairs off. it was not an officer from, he's a corporate affairs officer from the do gone to national oil company. and there was a 2nd what he says about national parks and you're gonna don't put anything you got to execute it based on the decision. but the system that have been executed at the highest level, internationally, i'm the aim to, 1st of all, avoid impacts with the natural habitats that have animals have. it doesn't have human beings and where we can't avoid. we minimize impact international
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international bugs. and that was the only one national bank is affected, and we have made an impact to get to 0 point one percent of the land. and i saw this national park ellison, i want to go to your show in the years my computer right now. this is from the new york times, and it is about the message that came out this week from scientists. i just want to read this quote, and i'm going to highlight this on my computer so that our viewers can see it. there is a rapidly closing window of opportunity to secure a livable and sustainable future for all this is backed by hundreds of scientists and 195 countries agreed to this one more part that it says here. the report plainly warns that the world is on track to exceed the threshold at least temporarily for the 1st half of the 20 thirty's. that's less than 10 years away. the actions taken during this decade will largely determine what happens for
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centuries to come. the secretary general is 9 nations antonio terrorist called it a quote, a how to guide to diffuse the climate time bomb. how can opening a new oil project, a new fossil fuels project? not speed this up. thank you very much, just going, let me try and fix my answer. how can opening up the new fossil projects? don't speed that up is up. frankly speaking, a very simplistic way of looking at it as we speak right now. the united states of america consumes 20000000 barrels of oil. patty, we're not talking about a project that is consuming 250000 barrels a day. it would, it would make more sense if watson, america, to cut its consumption by just a 1000000 barrels, that he, that the world is not livable for some people. right now i had visions talking about uganda being vulnerable to climate change. we only vulnerable more vulnerable
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than people in los angeles because of property. we are only more vulnerable than people in los angeles because of lack of opportunity. climate change and poverty are 2 things that need to be fought together. when what we, what we are being asked to do right now, is to set a new project student come on board. meanwhile, historical producers counters up in the e. u in the united states. that the people that are consuming 20000000 barrels of wealth at the should continue. but both of us are consuming. 37000 barrels should stop, you know, happening. josh, with no ls anyway. we're talking about in cash. is this your time consuming rather than production? and i don't think anyone would disagree with you in the western countries who name the should lower their production and consumption as well. yes. yes you just the point is, this is the point. is this hold on a thought else point is this, you increase? if you increase, we have seen, if you, if you said don't, don't bring your projects on board, let the price of well go up. we saw it happened last year when the price of will
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goes up. the only thing that happens is boil companies become richer. joe biden said, one of the oil companies is rich of an god. what happens to the poor peter, the higher the prices he knows of hear what you're saying, allison, but the scientists are saying we will not add more fossil fuel to the problem. we need to reduce it. awesome. all conjoin. josh, josh, the 3rd is antisocial. sadness, i must see. josh, and it's tough to stand that. and i would like to say that the agreement around a word is that you're going to transition from ah, for sale fears to clean energies. quickly. arnett won't come into the opening out when you come with a fence. he says that it's happening. is it happening fast? enough moving from fossil fuels to green energy? no, i'm saying it's happening differently from each country. uganda's problem now is not forcing fears. uganda as biggest contribution to climate change is the cutting donald forests on this oil and gas project is actually going to help the cutting
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down old forest by having that going to be g used instead of chalk or on failed. so you need to look into the 2nd guys. i think i've got to stop you there, ernest and i want to thank you, earn us ellis impatience for being on the show today with us all the time we have now. look, we're not just looking at uganda, this is the 1st, the 3 shows looking at this. so join us for the 2nd show tomorrow, where we look at the global climate emergency. we're going to turn to alaska, where the oil and gas industry has a controversial new drilling project that the u. s. government has just approved. thank you for watching. ah ah.
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