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these a legal settlement in the palestinian territories. this is inside story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i'm the start the attain now, israel's parliament as overturned part of the law, that band legal settlements in the northern region of the occupied west bank. it's been placed that since 2005, when is really set, has been moved out during israel withdrawal to from the gaza strip. the move fulfills along held goal of the far right. politicians who dominate benjamin netanyahu is coalition government. and they are the latest in a series of initiatives by the government to increase illegal settlements across the occupied west bank. well, the areas that are affected include the palestinian villages of her mesh. so nor cotton and gun m, as you can see that as we mentioned, the illegal settlements,

there were dismantled back in 2005. when israeli forces left garza and then prime minister ariel sharon. well, israel minister of national missions or it struck has held this does in an interview, she predicted that the next step will be a return to the gaza strip. she said, i don't know how long it will take, sadly returned the gaza strip, will involve many casualties. just as the departure from the gaza strip came with many casualties, but ultimately it is part of the land of israel, and the day will come when we will return to it. but washington has condemned. israel's moved to revoke the store, saying it father undermines a 2 state solution. we have been clear that advancing settlements is an obstacle to peace and the achievement of a tuesday solution. this certainly includes creating new settlement building or legalizing outposts, or allowing building of any kind on private palestinian land or deep in the west bank adjacent to post indian communities,

all of which would be facilitated by this legal change. the action also represents a clear contradiction of undertaking these really government made to the united states. oh oh, let's bring in our panel noun in tel aviv. we have akiva elder. he is a columnist and also the author of lords of the land, the war over israel settlements in the occupied territories. and ramallah we have nor dave, a political analyst, and also the former spokeswoman for the palestinian task force on public diplomacy . and in washington dc, michael eminent, he is the director of research for israel and palestine at democracy for the arab world. now that's a non profit organization that supports human rights in the middle east and north africa. a very warm welcome to each of you. thanks. so much for joining us here on inside story. no, i'm going to start with you. can you give me your reaction to this week's move? well, i think we have to look at this as part of the big picture, which is that this is the government that has a very clear agenda. it is working to permanently colonize the land,

and that includes reversing a very symbolic, really withdrawal from these supplements. or at the time of the intellectual exit from garza. those supplements were never returned to the palestinians. the land was never returned to its owners. and so now this is just a one way to signal to the constituency of the sprite with government that it will push ahead with construction and expansion with taking over at really the rest of the west bank, no matter what the world thinks or says, because again, they know that they're thinking and saying is where the buck will stop and so far there is no signal that there are any consequences for such actions which are illegal under international you know. ok, i do want to give us a little bit more context here at we're talking about these 4 settlements. settlers were moved out in 2005. this move allows them back. but i do believe it still has

to be signed by an israeli military commander in order to actually been be enforced . presumably that will happen a key. but let me turn to you, what does the timeline potentially look like and, and is this a done deal, or is there legal recourse? i'm sure that it will be appealed and, you know, these days that story is the relationship between the judiciary and the government. i'm sure that in the some peace and yos are ready with it will actually not change the situation on the ground. because under ground, the settlers doing whatever they like. actually, the settlers, how the government and the government is now a full of settling. the minister in the ministry of defense, smart reach is

a settler. and then greer. the minister of national police is a center. so now they are part of the decision making process. and they're agenda and their priorities are very different from i can't even say the majority of these ready because even they could to voters even people who believe in greater israel. most of them are not messianic. most of them are not kind of jewish to us. so to connect to my answer to the previous guess, i can say that as long as the domestic political domestic prize, then this government has to pay for is close to 0 because the security council will not use chapter 7 and will not use sanctions

in israel. and less wait and see if for president biden will still use the veto power to stop sanctions against israel. i wouldn't put my money on it. well, this seems to be a good time to bring michael into the discussion. i know the u. s. michael, particularly president george w bush was instrumental in getting the 2005 deal done back then. this is obviously a very sensitive time for jo biden's government. how is netanyahu and there's broader coalition being viewed in d. c. m. i think that's her really, you know, i think that this, this process, this government, the best way to understand the weight of the united states has seen it. and we'll see it and will probably dictate actions as a parent or a sibling of somebody who is an addict. and they understand that their behavior is

destructive and against their own interest. but they're all they can do is change their own behavior. so i, i agree with the case that we don't, i don't think we'll see sanctions on israel from united states from the but what it does do is create the space for the administration to have more on the discussion with itself. reconciling the image of a method, israel, the american politicians, are more comfortable with and had for many, many years with what israel has become. but quite frankly with what is really leaders have been saying they want and they, they are. and what israel, what israel is for many, many years. so i think the administration understands that, but they're, they're taking a long time to come around and sort of acknowledge and believe it. but we may see that and we're seeing sort of escalating stuff from small changes in language to the way that they describe the relationship to the language is really about that or

to ed department a couple of days ago over the know specifically. but i think that that what we're likely to see if this type of move, which is not pointed out quite correctly, is part of the bigger package. we can't look at this isolated piece of legislation . you know, there's a lot of, it's one page long, and it's part of a package of dozens of laws, completely reshape the israeli political and legal system. but more importantly, it's relationship to the palestinian territory and the policy and in people i want an extension. i want to look at some of those other pieces of legislation in a minute, but just sticking with particular move this week for now. i know the u. s. has come out and said it's extremely troubled by this new law. i believe that by netanyahu had a conversation on the phone on sunday, and they didn't talk settlements at all. now, beyond the, the outward condemnation here, nor what would you like to see from the us?

well from the us and others, i would like for them to be consistent to treat, to treat this government as a rogue government the way it would if it were governing any other country. this is a government that's not only clown to international law or declaring its intention to commit crimes. it is assaulting the tenants of the jewish democracy so to speak, which is defective for democracy. and israel that also excludes the 20 percent of palestinians will hold israeli at nationality, but even that is now under a threat. so despite all of that, the american administration continues to treat the situation with kid gloves. the european union have, you know, had a few statements here and there, but still the largest trading partner with israel is refusing to take any accountability steps including factions, or,

or at least banning of settlement products. these are steps consistent with international law steps that the europeans and the american have taken him to respond to other situations of occupation including that in your brain. and yet the culture of impunity, the feeling of invincibility that the israeli government and the previous fund. i have that is, that is a natural outcome of the fact that they've always been shielded from any kind of accountability. and that's, you know, unless that is broke up. and then really there isn't much that's going to change except the fact that, you know, with their back to the corner the palestinians are not going to simply, you know, watch as of all of their land is stolen from under their feet. and as much it is really that the fact the ruler of the west bank kind of gets to act out or,

or play out the plan that he has or controlling the entirety of his sort. alice vine by doing away with the palestinians. whether by encouraging them to leave or by expelling them, or confining them to their cities and villages, daniel the direction we're heading and no one stop then then so, so i want to pick up on something you just said there that the palestinians weren't just sit idly by and watch this happen. i noticed the timing of this is obviously the sort of ramadan e stand pass or both just around the corner. i keep it, is there a concern that the timing of this can be viewed as provocative in itself? you know, there's been attempts now to get these rarely send the policies together, because now even a meeting between prime minister netanyahu and i will mas and you know, something that we took it as the most natural thing to happen. because

we have an agreement, we have also agreement actually when we're talking about this engagement from a di, norsen, westbank, and pom garza, this was actually part of the process. and where is the process? we are now 30 years after the you know, i was her in the white house in the house long when she went paris and dropping shook hands with now it looks like, you know, it was in another century. so i believe that the israeli people are now starting to realize the linkage between dosa messianic smart rich and bank via and democracy. and you see now half a 1000000 people in the streets to day demonstrating against the

blitz the year. ah, attempt to change these rarely democracy and on steroids. and the occupation you don't see is rarely obs industries because the israeli democracy is democracy for juice, mainly. and if we don't find a way to find some kind of a live together, a way to bring together jewish values and democratic values, we're heading towards epis. and i haven't yet. and an intro to be a way for people to live together. but i noticed that set of islands in particular has also been on the rise. i took a look at some of the numbers. now since the start of this year, 2023 is really 2nd related violence. reach what an average of 3 incidents per day compared with 2 incidents per day last year. one incident day per day law,

the year before that in 2021. those that un numbers now in a part of israel's justification for the sacraments itself has been this idea of security. michael, do you think the west or anyone in the west still buys that? i think that picking up on want to keep and i'm going to question a 2nd that it's always been easier. and this is both of the tragedy and an opportunity at the moment for the west in particular, but for the world to care. more about rights are jewish israelis than the lives of policy and the safety of indians. and and that's tragic because it means that there's been 55 or 75 years of tragedy of massacres, of, of killings and injustice. but the opportunity is that if the world stop seeing israel as a democracy, the way the jewish israelis experienced that it's very difficult to continue the

charade. or to continue looking at is really pulsing situation as 2 separate reasons. because if israel knowledge moxie within its own borders recognized by the world, then how could, how can you separate that from the democrat military regime that it's been rolling over millions of health and the answer for 55 years. so, you know, i think that there, there is an opportunity for the world to change the way that it is real health and situation. but, but it's, it's focus, it's in the wrong place. my whole, you're talking there about this shift away from democracy in as long as all 3 of you are. and we have obviously seeing these huge, huge protests that have been taking place in israel as part of this huge as way the legislation that this coalition government wants to, to put through. now i'm wondering about the public opinion that you are seeing the akiva. is there a bit of a normalization now you think of the fall rise?

oh yeah, i am. according to the recent poster directions today. m. b, a and guns could form a coalition. having said that, while they were in power for, for the last year or so, and they didn't make any attempt to reach out to the seniors or to get closer to a final settlement agreement. you know, guns rang there on the last election in the fall elections on the ticket that he was responsible as the chief of staff for the killing of more than 1000 philistines in gaza. so we needed deeper change in this equation and the equation is not only israel in policy, it was out the make and you know,

not only facilitating but putting the political chips and giving as it was sent before. and as long as there is impunity. and the, the occupation is so cheap for the israelis. yes, some israelis have been also killed. we have to mention this. you know, that we lost 2 young brothers a few weeks ago. but the palestinians have nothing to lose. because at the end of the tunnel, there is no light. and more than that, there is no tunnel because even negotiate. going back to the table looks now like a fantasy that many people in israelis, including people in the last have lost it. and no doubt demonstrating do was saved the democracy and he's not about the issue. i want to help in there given because

we are having this very broad discussion, which is an incredibly important one about the future of israel and the future of palestine. but also within the context of this move this, this move about these specific for villages that we've seen this week. just one over a whole host of things that's taking place at the moment. this is all obviously part of a much larger picture. now in terms of settlements, it's something like 600750000 between those numbers, israeli settlers even at least what 250 settlements. and outpost across the occupied westbank and an occupied east jerusalem. now i know the man who as of february is in charge of settlements and netanyahu's coalition government, he is the man you've been talking about bestsellers smart trick. i want to listen to what he had to say earlier this week. oh there's no such thing as a palestinian. there's no such thing as a palestinian people. do you know whose palestinian i am palestinian

ah. ah, my late grandfather whose 13 generation jerusalem might. is the true palestinian. oh ah, the palestinian people on an invention that is less than a 100 years old? no, i know that deeply profoundly hurtful and offensive to many people. do you regard that is as reflective of the tone broadly from netanyahu's government. i think it's a very honest representation of where this government stands. it's not just much, it should deny the existence of the palestinian people and their, their, their national identity and their humanity re but this genocide, oldest denial of them, of, of the palestinian people. it is where it is the ground on which all of these ministers stand. and i would remind the viewers the one at yahoo 1st

became i minister, i, his statements were maybe a bit more eloquent, a bit more swab, but they weren't really far from where small church is. and the policy is that has been adopted by his successive governments. nathan, yahoo! i'm really translate or led up to where we are now. 20181. israel adopted the so called nation state law, which accorded only jews. the exclusive right to self determination in historic find it considered settlements to be a national priority and basically treated indigenous palestinians as a squatters with, with no, right? you know, all of that it's, it's only natural for us to year. someone like small trip spelling out his ideology with, with such audacity in a foreign capital, i would say, you know,

i would remind he didn't say this, it israel where he says it all the time. he fed it in heiress and still he wasn't told to leave. so again, we go back to that sense of invincibility is these politicians know because of practice that they can say anything they can do anything and they will get away with it. i remember i want to be here because given the tone that we're talking about nor, and what you were saying, a key about this real well, this foundering if anything piece process i see the u. s. is still talking about a piece process and a 2 state solution. i mean, michael, a lot of people, including 2 panelists, you might argue that there is a very empty terms. i would agree completely. i would just add to what number thing you know before last week that quote, that type of statement. there's no such thing as a palestinian people. and i,

you know, they really, politician speaking was most closely associated with gold to my hair. this is not a new thought to be coming from israeli leaders and, you know, the oppertunity again here is that this government is saying the quiet part out loud. so i don't think that, you know, we're going to see any, any consequences here. i do think that, you know, as we were saying before, the world is going to have to start seeing the government and for what it is and this government as reflective of israel. and it's not all of israel. you know, we're seeing massive protests against this government, but you have to remember also that again, this is part of a package that is in the eyes of yours live in the justice minister in the eyes of buffalo, small church in the eyes of many other members senior members of this is really government is ultimately and enabling the annexation of the entire was bank and

what they call one the wrong. well, we are hearing as well other senior members of this government of this desire as well to move back into gaza. i keep it. do you anticipate basil or a building spring to take place? i don't think so. i think that even the voters of the could would not like to send the sons shoot back to gaza. he a member of message from the radical right. who said that regardless of the price we have to pay $1.00 day, we have to go the, this is rhetoric. the problem in my eyes is that the people of israel key voted for those parties. and d, i heard so many times from american diplomats and civil servants. united states cannot want peace more than

you these well. and some of them even add more then the other union. so as long as d israelis don't have the desire to put an end to the coffee, they can live discarded. this is most of them are very comfortable with their economy situation with ability to travel anywhere. the 2nd was strong, but the game changer can be economic repercussions of what's happening now in the field, in the other field of democracy versus dictatorship. and here it seems that people are starting to move. they read in the newspapers that the high tech experts in israel are moving,

people are taking out their money transferring to switzerland. so once they will see the connection between their personal safety and her well being and do you gratian. then we may see some changes saw in the stream. so, and now we're really changed the calculus here. now before we end, because we have been talking about settlements to begin with, i want to throw this to, you know, can you give us a sense of what it's like to live in these areas as palestinians close to israeli settlements? i know there has been not only rising levels of violence, but also attacks on olive trees. for example. can you describe how it feels to live there? well it's, it's a nightmare to put it in a nutshell and those affected those most effect, the live right next to the list. and we're talking about dozens and dozens of

small isolated villages. images that know they have no recourse to safety, they can call the fire fighters, they can call palestinian police for protection. the israeli army accompanies the settlers while they're attacking at the is at the villages of so there's a constant sense of hopelessness and being under attack. every palestinian travelling on the road in the occupied west bank checks constantly on the status of the road. whether there are settlers on the road or the attacking the palestinian cars, which roads to take and which roads to not take. and that sense of being under attack is exactly what settlers want it's, it's exactly what they've been enabled to do. but i think it's very important to, to highlight to the viewers the palestinians. don't see the settlers

a separate from the states from the israeli established they are. and another part of that is funded an aided and protected by the israeli occupation army by the occupation regime or and so they see it as wiring thing and that helped my side and a sense of impunity on the israeli side, i'm afraid we'll have to leave it there, but thank you to all of our guests, kiva, nor a day and michael omen. and thank you to for watching. you can see this program again, anytime by visiting our website out there or dot com for further discussion, do go on facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. remember to join the conversation on twitter handle at a inside story for me to pay on the whole team here. and i snapped the

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