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expelled from india's parliament incentives for 2 years in prison. the country's main opposition leader rahul gandhi is punished for a speech that a court says was the family tree of the family name of prime minister marin ramadi . but is this fair or proportional or side of increasing political repression? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan. he's one of india's most well known political names, but if prosecutors have their way for a whole gundy could become the country's most famous prisoner. on thursday, a court found him guilty of defamation and referring to the family name of prime minister there under moody, in a speech made 4 years ago. and he's been sentenced to 2 years in j ill. that

remains free for the moment on bail pending and appealed a day later on friday he was disqualified. as i may be because of the conviction. gandy is opposition. congress party and allies accused the governing b. j. p of using defamation laws to silence. critics. he says, he won't be intimidated. i am heard defending the democratic voice of the new people. i will continue to do that. i am not scared of the threats of these disqualifications of these allegations. of these prison sentences. i don't care, i'm not scared of them. okay, these people don't understand me yet. i am not scared of them. they are used to everybody game being scared of them. i am not scared of them. the governing b, j. p said that the law had taken its course and gave its fear as to why gandy was prosecuted. gone widest spot be bought. you looked up. good. god, congress party members are saying a lot of things in, but they aren't saying what were who gandy actually said. this case against him was for commons at an election rally in 2019 and karnataka. he said,

how come all the thieves have mowdy as the common surname? you that email that up? it would it sort of named goal is if you're going to insult the entire movie surname. this is completely defamatory, by a case was ron and ra who gandy was allowed to present himself. and course his lawyers put up their arguments. prosecution presented their witnesses and according to the law, this decision was given will be talking about what this case means for the country with our guests in just a moment. but 1st, let's find a little more about to roll. gandhi, india is a republic, but you could classify him as the equivalent of political royalty his heir to its narrow down the political dynasty. his mother was the congress parties, longest serving leader had his father, grandmother, and great grandfather were all prime ministers. raoul gandhi was the main contender against the hindu nationalist. b. j. p. lead, under andrew moody, in the general election in 2014. that was when the congress party was swept from

power. he resigned as leader of the congress party, of the b. j. p. increased its share of seats in parliament in poles in 2019 but he remains a very important figure. ah, let's bring it. our guests for today's program from new delhi were joined by saddam shoot metal senior leader and politician with a party, a janitor party. also in new delhi, is this a fresh or not a national spokesperson for the indian national congress? but he said, i'm sure if i remember correctly from my journalism law training days, the definition of defamation is a statement which injures a 3rd parties. reputation. how could gown these comments vague as they were, have injured a specific person or party? was this verdict politically motivated a he has not been convicted for defaming mr. aladdin's more the the plan, the stuffing that he has in collected for defaming. but miss more

d. who was administered, good rack in his 1st tape him, which was the head to be for mickey. secondly, the indian parliament never voted against mister gun visa of a ford mister gun. his disqualification, the disqualification of mister gandy is automatic. why the supreme court judge went into the other turkey. the issue is this is a private persons complete. this is section $9.00 to $4.00 or $99.00 and $5.00 and it will be in peanut. and that penal court lives down that anybody who feels agreed . busy statement which is deformity to him, can approach the court thought, and it is. now mr. good knish went to the court, said, what he has said is, how come all peace add more these? now he belongs to the movie community, which is an ada back. what class committed in india, and after much examination after looking at the material on the quad and after examining witnesses, the court has found mr. danley g

b off definition. now i must also had one more thing missed the court gave mr. gamlee an opportunity of apologizing for making this bit of a clearer coming 3rd, which hurt mr. less money, but he refused to do it. now these are choices he need for the choice. is that none? there is no evidence again, because this is electronically the quad. so he would not have been a what he said, and he made a choice of not apologizing. so he has been convicted. and as a st. ben's he is making human 2 years of imprisonment. okay. not as by the indian law. yeah. as but this one more thing, okay, as for the in the law, if you get it that nick soon offer saying best, mit is 2 years or more, you want to magically disqualify it's that's the point where it is the question of it. and this is the point that i wanted to make to you the sentence. i'm sorry to

be cynical here, but he was given 2 years, which just happens to be the statutory minimum penalties or render a sitting member of parliament in other and eligible for office. i mean that's, that's going to be. that's no coincidence. surely. no, i don't think you have any right on anybody at the end of a dollar, a solution on the move, is them all the presiding judge? i mean, if, if the says some, but he has to law, which cindy judgment, they are the right for them is not this the debate the night for him as the appellate authority and surprise at the low began, these have not gone to the ability to quantity but to question why a 2nd quantum of punishment was given, the says this is a condemned, i don't think good and your 1st or qualified to really do that. so prior, what do you make of, of both the verdict and the sentence there? i mean, what does it say about the judiciary and india?

i don't want to comment on the judicially in india, but i will make my own remarks on what is perhaps the worst political been data of any kind. and i want to put some back on the table feel to you or my water leak on each of the b j. b. but the board needs to know what has happened. mr. on the april 2019 big statement in canada, which is when his judgment has been delivered by the way in the state of connecticut, in an actual speech, there is a god in fuller would you not that starts trying this case? by the shade though, he is on this case, the complainant, bernice moore. the is not named by wrong gun the. there are 3 individual mr. gunny names left for the lead on monday and not in the morning. but mr. burnish more the now a minister than a 1000000 the be just the governor. withdraw state does not have a lot to stand. i do actually go to court on this matter. that's why number one,

what number do any actual speech? it's got an wrong by the police that have been nobody's investigation and i guess that's why number 2. this is an important thing because people need to know, april 19th, april 2019 is what is the gun, the mix, the speech and bus of it for the good job for you know, the trial began. but it said that it is on record. the josh bernice moore, the him center goes to the alabama high school. we do hire board the board in florida, and i will stay on the proceedings, not listen to me carefully. he will stay on the proceedings. and then on the february, mr. rolled on the mix of skimming speech and barnum and exposing the link. but to me in the prime minister, i understood. got them a danny,

who is in the eye of with you and you can and mr. what do you use us to program that really makes the speech on the 16th february when it goes back to the end of our high school. and in the mean time, the district is changed just as the way a stick in a way that is a new ministry to comes. and i'm not going to tell me who he is and what then on the 16th 9 years later, mr. correlational the goes to the end of a good one is application to be withdrawn. he also stay you thinking of february proceedings, begin or at the time of the judgement on one second, please, or with one of the questions a if you want to go to the level of lying it all back,

let's not get into the room. it will be, i want to one thing on record, right? it is important. yeah. it, mr garvey was given us and up 111 months and when the 9 did, he would not have been disqualified, but he was given maxima minus member just please the den. yes, and the government did not, which, but which, which was the point i've been, which was the point that i put promised. i will be surprised now that he's doing this was the point that i put to sudan shoe and, and that you made as well the sentence of 2 years. there's a political vendetta, sedan shoe against a rock. gandhi, i am, i am so beaned, and i am so amazed that you can him do motives on a judge without dealing, having even be preliminary. ah evidence. who said that there was a bias. you as a political coming day to have a do not have the right to make

a judgement on the to be sure the suitable for just in india. we have an independent judiciary, and judy should be services. jose. i reviewed the gun because we can't clim my life . i me are you saying this is my life id i telling her personally is mellow friday and then the verb. the consequence of the judy the bus says the have an independent judiciary. you cannot be neglect judicially by law, including motives, as far as her be faxed, she of late done. let me elaborate on the fact. the fact is that would make more b isn't data this guess is not to be investigated by police officer because it's a private complaint. and under section 14, i do have one i'd like and $500.00 i'll be in the middle court. this is the provision. if people and i can't help it, if mr. danley does not understand, the consequences offered deformity statement and the punishment isn't that. you see there was a fall from a mind of a few been said,

they're still a we're, we're, we can't without shout across each other like this a long way. we're going to have the issue of the ensure. simple ensure eventually we would but we can't shout across each other like this because my own war here, i'm not, i would say, i'm ok. i'm going to make a last quick point this please. last, just from last i heard a communist m b. one of the senior most numbered by them from you be saying they should be a separate lawford begun these can you imagine in that course to so democracy which has a scheme of things in the constitution, this kind of on demand can be made by accomplish? well, by the party can make this demand that this should be a separate off about it. ok, i don't, can i please come in now? i think i have a right to read. yeah. please go on. yeah, thank you very much. so let not be driven by deep news

propaganda. let's not graduate from what happened this book university. mr. mcdaniel, what you were saying about our night and i melana to time and b is enroll. yes. don't do that because we live and whatever it is that my number one, my number, i would love to take you to the court if you, if you need anything longer, guest me please do him. and the noise from the junior select asked him, but i tell you, doesn't it, that this is not going to be me that maybe this is how you do things with i to be. we are, i'm an international sales manager. and i like you can try you, does i give it a time? yeah. please do it. how i can you know, try to get it. okay. look like i had to do. i have to remind you both. i have to remind you both. we want to hear what both of you have. i said we can't, she can come to me. shout. such are the leaves. i like this so frail. when you click on delaware, what, what do you not suppress of the speed at which roha galle was it was expelled from

parliament following the verdict. mister garvey gathered that bidding living daylights over the lee jacoby. okay, and yes, i will not let me bar. okay, scroll down to print, let me, let me put that point to you though. sure. he's eventually, i just thought it just a minute. let me just see, don't worry. okay, with opinion with opinion polls showing reject your body. all right, listen with with opinion poll sharing the b, j. p. having an unassailable lead ahead of next year's election, and moody himself, remaining incredibly popular among voters. why would any politician from the governing party be concerned about what ronald gandy in the congress party says? or does again understand leif escalation and the mr. conferred in the congress gambling because of the demoralization. but let me just see don't section it 3 of the to presented of, of people's act. it says a person convicted of an offense and sentenced to imprisonment for not less than 2 years. i shall be disqualified from the it offsets condition until it continues to

be disqualified for the foot the period of 6 years after his leave, the southern law. this is not what the parliament deciding. this is the law of the land. now if somebody is the law of the line, you see, yes, we believe in them by the still law in those that go 20 governed by law. now are you trying to say that the law fled should be you flynn, for the guns? no, the law says that if you are convicted and you have a sentence of 2 years, you will be disqualified, please, goodness qualified. when is the domain come into the picture? where does digitally go into the picture? it is that one choice zone going. he had an option of apologizing. he did not who chose the sentence, so be it. so how do we come into the picture? this is not a prosecution by the state itself, but i will complain. so please let say i didn't listen. i need to see what is i honestly, i think a kind of a little game with the dog and the premises who this cables are dba. i'm just not sure if, if rog, i may have heels the same class like like when he appeals,

if it's, if a philosophy reduced or overturned, will he be reinstated, as an empty that no, no, he does that the government has nothing to go with that. nobody has anything to do . it is the court. if the court gives him an order, i meant the conviction it says, these are only to finish this lady, not, not be so so much. and i is the sure how the suspects of which you can be in a debate. the issue is it's for the quarter to sign it, but what i had to do it would be good to go to the decides that this her conviction has to be the same. so here you go, do you fit it? so you be sure is off your judicial process, and laughlin is nothing to do with any politics. no. what does love learning is not to be shown as the politics of in general. this is not the politics of the politics of india is that of the one and i want you to listen to one next to that non us look at this, daniel, and i'm certainly not to print. i think i know it interrupted. ok, look,

look surprised. this is as a if you didn't put up a question as do since you're so popular. why should we know that you're not bother? who's bother? no more. so the conviction of ground, i mean, whose mother yet be good for the wednesday? things like that. one of the semester and also insurance, so that she left her a yes or you can come in. what do you want to say? i think to say that, i mean is some of the more the government who are asking rog, i need to come to parliament and speak. they were actually let me back it lamb his visit rom. yes. that all was these about india being indian democracy being a public good, but i just saw your view was a big term, the indian democracy. mendoza following one day tomorrow, we don't know what he thought was. i was doing that once again. i asked for

a bank to wire in writing and was after me speaker of the law amount, which is the legislature where he's elected to he was not given dying on the 16th of march. instead of being the indian democracy was functioning, i would have binding parliamentary, minimal disease on best. the reality is why can't you switch over? might you put it by the end of the proceeding on mute. have you ever heard democracy or parliament doesn't? you're the one good, not hearing in parliament on the 17th of march was 69 minutes. you don't allow a member of parliament to speak, but as he get with you, he get beaten you. we get pricing that you are the one wanted to speak. you are the one making it but a boss. i was 30 by 11 and get independent. it can be a de la melissa by allowing the house m a rushing to the well knitting. what did you get of this?

okay, let's get in the back of it. wrong done, he was given a chance to speak, he would ask you what's going on and you have not gotten a dollar super well, we can't. we can't really see the picture the year either the newspaper that you keep showing us or took to the webcam, the one on a weekly we. we can't see it in proper quality here in the studio. i'm sorry. i said, answered you, did you want to fly at you? you were, you were telling us about about going as my question as well. why? why the b j. p appears to be running scared of congress when they got nothing to fear at the moment. electron literally, at least if you make it very clear that is location of being assayed or seal foot. i mean, these are all the words of imagination, of people who suffer from hysteria by way. i mean, we have such a comfortable acceptance by the people from the way should we be bothered. right?

yeah. yeah. bothered about what then, or who gandhi goes to in and says indian democracy is endangered. so he was saying you shouldn't even then yes, we think this is not a statement of a patriarch. this is not a statement which can ever be acceptable to anybody in the country for the simple reason that internal i to be looked after by the concrete self you can not even, not big enough. it is, this is ridiculous, missed she is that you be having, she's having an okay. whereas i mean on this i've never seen. somebody hasn't been there. if, if you're, if you're, if you're space, you're shouting, if i shout, i know if you're shouting at each other we, we can't hear what you're saying. the microphone cuts out because it kept looking at the cycle. so please keep it, keep your voice right now to moderate level. i'm surprised if ya roha gandhi, does good. i mean, as soon as you so much from it's ok. i think that this,

this'll answer or question that we are not finished. i made a point that it is a man who seeks the dimension of a foreign country into the affairs of india. how can that be acceptable? you cannot be accepted. and this is doing bad. hallmark on the trademark of the congress is listed on guard. he seems to be always on the side of pakistani seems to be on the side of china. anybody who is in the middle of the interest of india, he seems to be on this site. and that is what this does. because as people at the scan key, i'm get a very bout country. i mean somebody on rebecca look at this, look at this. can you imagine? can you imagine? is this ok, that is the reason why all this. ok, so gotcha. i said, i'm sure that led. yeah. you had, you've had your say, let, let's, let's a prayer come back to prayer. ok. let's, yeah, yeah, a very simple points to make killed. mister garvey was visiting by the what the

judge was the school of the cambridge university, which is our motto. he said indian democracy has a public good 144 people, which is 1400000 people live in indian. and the bottom of this year's book at the site did of democracy on this planet. be a question. you have to be put into a democracy at the stage of the one you was. i only i you with what can bundles you get up. and he said no, and i can go back to this is our problem. this is, i didn't done a problem. this is an indian problem. we will have to find a solution to this. the reality is that the b b a. so that's why some of the other issue that i want to mention of it from and on. and that is what this is all about, mr. garcia said it was not, don't you disqualify me for like you will send me to jail? i give our guy, i will continue to fight for the democracy of this country. indian democracy was put on that. what beginning of democracy and elected member of parliament was not.

* to speak with you what it becomes a speaking part of it. yeah, i think i wasn't, wasn't on the speaker to speak about it. my god. i going to have a couple of the with the back. what didn't go see the vote you so talk might some people that don't know what to get up there. get up. when you reply back to the next. somebody bought the shot of me because she was speaking about democracy. they ask it of a climate back. it was like a book this get a book, but just make the on. that is the reality of the movie government. this a lot of them all and these things are days or gone. we were then other than the ones who have begun, that she will need us and we will actually not on the floor. there will be the president in the eyes not to dispense, not they would not show you all side of your stories. and that's what not in the or the example, the scrunchy you really want to put on the democratic institution, a prison, and most,

it's usually not last night. and post been directed to the institution in india, which is meant to probe, elicit, well being did not get and swing overseas. there is a bar warning agreement. give them again boardman directors as possible the have come to power and get what 95 percent of us get that again, it is our position. if you ask the question of is not meant they are all get around the the other could do was, this was my little rock. he becomes more dangerous. so that should go to what do you want to point out. okay. all right, and i got your, your baby boy laughing because of another lot and i love it. support and bestow with what you're you're a joy to answer that naturally i would do. the only thing indian democracy has been so wooded was in 1975 and look who did that. the party or 1st peer g emergency live, all the fundamental lights of

a citizen was suspended so much for the commitment to democracy by the congress. you heard about probably you heard you heard about be shipping being scared. the problem is that congress is scared because of her redeem misty would bank by its diminishing presence in the lives of indian politics. it has, it has to do with itself, but memories are partly today. you sure. among passing, the will dandy is the best yard before beach it. right, because here is a man who makes irresponsible stickman, who makes fully as a hallmark of political leadership. and they want us to utilize that to such a person as, as to be taken seriously. the reality is that the b g, b in its entire machinery, has, wouldn't so much money at the back of the reputation. don't get back mr. gun need

been, i'm not the one that mr guy. cindy saw, honest man. and which is why the longest shaking the defeat that has nothing else to this, they have realized that the entire machinery has failed to come to the fascinate army. he's asking questions of relevance. every thing that he said about the d, about the cobra, to places about china, about denying all come to mr. moore. he has had eat unless by one of the other. and i only take 10 seconds because this is the definition. you go look august g o, b dog, the congress. you've got a sudden a hybrid. got you got mad. want to be good friends. you will see that the prime minister with a statement right? you to be a you? oh, okay. good deal must've been that you should be a good book if you asked that more. i got there destiny. we are on a new deal. we are. we are out of time. i'm. i'm sorry that that's where we must

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