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expelled from india's parliament and sentence, the 2 years in prison. the country's main opposition leader raoul gandy is punished for a speech that a court says was the family tree of the family name of prime minister marin ramadi . but is this fair or proportional or side of increasing political repression? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan. he is one of india's most well known political names. but if prosecutors have their way for a whole gandy could become the country's most famous prisoner. on thursday at court, found him guilty of defamation and referring to the family name of prime minister there under moody, in a speech made 4 years ago. and he's been sentenced to 2 years in jail, but remains free for the moment on bail pending and appeal. a day later on friday

he was disqualified as an m b because of the conviction candy's opposition congress party and allies accused the governing b. j. p of using defamation laws to silence critics. he says he won't be intimidated. i am here defending the democratic voice of the new people. i will continue to do that. i am not scared of the threats of these disqualifications of these allegations. of these prison sentences. i don't care, i'm not scared of them. okay. these people don't understand me yet. i am not scared of them. they are used to everybody game being scared of them. i am not scared of them. the governing b, j. p said that the law had taken its course and gave its fear as to why gandy was prosecuted gauntlet is spotty. buck you look, bob. good god, congress party members are saying a lot of things in but they aren't saying what were who gandy actually said. this case against him was for commons at an election rally in 2019 and karnataka. he

said, how come all the thieves have mowdy as the common surname? all that up it would is sort of named gore is. if you are going to insult the entire mo, the surname, this is completely defamatory, by a case was run and rehab gandy was allowed to present himself in court. his lawyers put up their arguments, prosecution presented their witnesses and according to the law, this decision was given of books, knick. we'll be talking about what this case means for the country with our guests and just a moment. but 1st, let's find a little more about role. gandhi, india is a republic, but you could classify him as the equivalent of political royalty his air to its narrow gown, the political dinner estie. his mother was the congress party's longest serving leader and his father, grandmother, and great grandfather were all prime ministers. raoul gandhi. it was the main contender against the hindu nationalist, b, j. p. leader in there and ramadi, in the general election in 2014. that was when the congress party was swept from power, he resigned as leader of the congress party,

out of the b. j. p. increased its share of seats in parliament in poles in 2019. but he remains a very important figure. ah, that's bring it, i guess, for today's program from new delhi, we're joined by saddam shoot metal senior leader and politician with a party. a janitor party, also in new delhi. is this a fresh or not a national spokesperson for the indian national congress potty said, i'm sure if i remember correctly from my journalism law training days, the definition of defamation is a statement which injures a 3rd parties. reputation. how could gandhi's comments vague as they were of injured a specific person or party? was this verdict politically motivated a he has not been convicted for defaming mr. aladdin's more the the prime, the stuffing guy he is in convicted for defaming. but miss more

d. who was administered when jack in his 1st taping, it was the head to be to from keith. secondly, the indian parliament never voted against mister gun visa of a fraud mister gun. he's disqualification. the disqualification of listed on these automatic why the supreme court judge when in 2013, the issue is this is a private persons complete. this is section $9.00 to $499.00 and $5.00 and it will be in peanuts. and that little court lives down that anybody who forensic viewed by us, which is deformity to him, can approach the court. thought it is. now mr. good nish went to the court, said what he has said is, how come all p ad mode means? now he belongs to the movie community, which is an other backward class committed in india, and after much examination, after looking at the material on recording, after examining witnesses,

big quote has found mr. danny g b off definition. now i must also add one more thing miss the quote gave mr. gamlee an opportunity of apologizing for making this better get here coming through with hope, mr. goodness money, but he refused to do it. now these are the choices he need for the choices that app, ma'am, there is no evidence required because this was electronically. what did so he would not have been a what he said. and he made a choice of not apologizing. so he has been convicted and has the same fancy as we can human 2 years of imprisonment. okay. not as but the in law the as for this one more thing, okay. as for the, in the law, if you get it that mix soon offer st. vincent meters, 2 years or more, you what, what to magically disqualify it's, that's the point where it is the portion of it. and this is the point that i have. i wanted to make to you the sentence. i'm sorry to be cynical here,

but he was given 2 years, which just happens to be the statutory minimum penalties or render a sitting member of parliament in other ineligible for office. but that's going to be that's no coincidence surely. no, i don't think you have any right on anybody at the end of a dollar, especially on didn't visit him or deep deciding judge and then is the says some, but he has to law questioned the judgment. they agreed right. for them is not this, the debate be late for them is the appellate authority and to price at the low begun. these are not going to the appellate authority, but to question why a 2nd quantum of punishment was given. the says, this is a content i don't think good and your 1st or qualified to really do that. so well, what do you make of, of both the verdict and the sentence there of what does it say about the judiciary and india? i don't want to comment on the judicial in germany,

i will make my own remarks on what is perhaps the worst political been debt of any kind. and i want to put some facts on the table. the do you or my one of the connie from the b j b, but the board needs to know what has happened, mr. don bean april 2019 big statement in canada, which is when his judgment has been delivered by the way in the state of connecticut in an actual speech that is gone in fuller. would you not that starts trying this gaze? magistrate davi is on this case. the complainant, bernice moore, the is not named by rahman gun. the they are 3 individual, mr. donnie names like more the need of money and that in the movie. but mr. bernice more the now a minister than a 1000000 the be just the government of good. our state does not have a lot to stand. i do actually go to court on this matter. that's why number 11,

number 2, any actual speech is guys and wrong by the police. there has been, nobody's investigation. and i guess that's why number 2. this is an important thing because people need to know, april 19th, april 2019 is when the gandhi makes the speech the other bus and that for the good job for you know, the trial begins. let us show that it is on record of the josh berlin movie incent, goes to the alabama high school. we do hire board and the board in florida, and i stay on the proceedings now. listen to me carefully. he will stay on the proceedings. and then on the february, mister rolled on the mix of skinning speech and bonnet exposing the link. but to me in the prime minister, i understood. got them or danny, who isn't the i up with

a huge gum and mr. what do you use us to program that really makes the speech on the 16th of february? or let me go back to the end of our high school. and in the meantime, the district is changed just as the way a stick in a way that is a new ministry to comes and i'm not going to be the one of them on the 16th 9 years later, mr. correlational the goes to the end of a good one is application to be withdrawn. he also stayed thinking of february proceedings began or a 25 lost the judgment on one second. please, or a list of questions if you view later, later, once you've laid off one thing, i would use a if you want to go to the level of lying it all back, let's not get into the with it. i want to pick one thing on record, right?

i think is important. yeah. it, mr garvey was given us and up 111 months and when the 9 did, he would not have been disqualified, but he was given another one, his name, please the dentist. yes. and the government did not, which, but which, which was the point i've been, which was the point, and i put them on the, a surprise that he's doing this was the point that i put to sudan shoe and, and that you made as well the sentence of 2 years, there's a political vendetta, so that shoe against a rock. gandhi, i am, i am so beaned and am so amazed that you can endure motives on a judge. you don't dealing, having humanly preliminary, ah evidence. who said that there was a bias. you as a political coming, they to have a do not have the right to make

a judgment on the judicial the suitable for just in india we have an independent judiciary and julie shelby, sir. decisions are reviewed beacon because we can't clim my life. i me, are you saying this is my life id i telling her? so, i mean, is mellow friday and didn't verb, the consequence of the judy. the bus says, you have an independent judiciary. you cannot then neglect judicially by law, including motives. as far as her, the facts she has laid down. let me elaborate on the fact. the fact is that good miss moore. b isn't data this guess is not to be investigated by police officer because it's a private complaint. and under section 14, i do what i'd like and $500.00 i'll be in the book. this is the pro vision. if people and i can't help it. if mr. gun be does not understand the consequences offered deformity statement and we put the spend isn't that you see there was so far from a mind of a few been said, they're still

a good guy. village will not it. i can face my you we're, we can't without shout across each other like this a long way. we're going to have the issue of the ensure simple ensured i'm sure we get but we can't shout across each other like this because my own war here. i'm not i way i'm ok. i'm going to make a last quick point this please. last, just one last i heard a communist m. b. one of the senior most numbered by them from you. be saying they should be a separate lawford begun. these can you imagine in that course to so democracy which as a scheme of things in because you see this kind of a demand can be made by a congressman by the party, can make this demand that there should be a separate off about it. ok. but hang on, i don't. can i please come in now? i think i'm going right to the yeah. please go on. yeah, thank you very much. so let not be driven by think news

propaganda. let's not graduate from what happened this book university. mr. mcdaniel, what you were saying about donna and i melana to time and b is enroll. yes. don't do that because we live in for different it. is that my number one? why number don't i? haven't buffalo take you to the court if you, if you need anything wrong against me. i live in southern and the noise from the junior select. i asked him, but i didn't know that this is not going to be me. that maybe this is all you looking for. i to be, we are, i'm an international sales manager and i like you can try you, does i give it a time? yeah. please do it. how i can you know, try it again. okay. look like i had to do. i have to remind you both. i have to remind you both. we want to hear what both of you have to say. we can't, she can come to me shout. such are the leaves. i like this supreme element. i'm clicking on delaware. what, what do you mean? superior of the speed at which roha galley was. it was expelled from parliament

following the verdict. miss the guardian gathered that bidding living daylights on the b. j. b a crime? yes. i will not let me. ha, okay, surprised. now supreme, let me, let me put that point to you though. sure. he's eventually i just thought it just a minute. let me just see, don't worry. okay, with opinion, with opinion polls showing reject your body or listen with, with opinion po, sharing the pgp, having an unassailable lead ahead of next year's election, and moody himself, remaining incredibly popular among voters. why would any politician from the governing party be concerned about what ronald gandy in the congress party says? or does again understand if escalation and the mr. conferred in the congress gambling because of the demoralization. but let me just see, don't section it 3 of the to presented of, of people's act. it says a person convicted of an offense and said best to imprisonment for not less than 2 years. i shall be disqualified from the did offset conviction until it continued to

be disqualified for the, for the period of 6 years after his he needs this other law. this is not good. the parliament decided this is the law of the land. now if somebody is the law of the line and see you read me, believe in the registry of law in days that go county govern by law. now, are you trying to say that the laughlin should be the flynn for the guns? no, the law says that if you are convicted and you have a sense of 2 years to be disqualified, please disqualify. where does the domain come into the picture? witness be generally going to the picture. it is that one choice zone boy, he had an option of apologizing. he did not who chose the sentence, so be it. so how do we come into the picture? this is not a prosecution by the state. it's a but i bigger complain. so piece, let's say i need to see what is i honestly, i think a kaiser again with the dog and the premises who this cables are diva obviously, i sure if, if rog, i may have heels the same as like like when he appeals. if it's,

if a philosophy reduced or overturned, will he be reinstated, as an empty? that no, no, he does that the government has nothing to go believe that nobody has anything to do. it is the court if the court gives them an order and i do send the conviction, it says, these are only to finish this lady, not, not be so so much and i is the sure how does the fix for she can be in id be the issue as it is for the quarter to sign it. but what i gotta do to be getting a card did decide that this. her conviction has to be the same. so here you go, deal fitted so it be shows all your judicial process and laughlin, it's nothing to do with any politics. now, what does love learning is not to be shown as the politics of them. this is all the politics of the politics of india is that of the one and i have to listen to a lecture that now you look at this genuine plasma separately to

print, i think i know what interrupted ok. look, look surprised. this is as a if you didn't put up a question as do since you're so popular. why should we know that you're not bother? who's bother? no more. so the condition of ground, i mean, whose mother yet be good for the wednesday? things like that. one of the semester and also insurance, so that she'll have to have a surprise. you can come in. what do you want to say? i'm a very simple thing to say that. i mean, it doesn't, the more the government who are asking round i need to come to parliament and the they were actually making that we get there. it is better than his visit rom. yes. that all was these about india, b, indian democracy being a public good. but i just saw your view was a picture of the indian democracy. mendoza. following one day, last week there was no housing. what he thought was,

i was doing that one second round. i me ask for bank to wire in writing and was after me speaker of the logs amount, which is the legislature where he is elected to he will not give a dime on the 16th of march. instead of being the indian democracy was functioning, i would have diamond parliament in minimal. this is our best. the reality is what get all usage offers. might you put in by the end of the proceeding on mute. have you ever heard of democracy or parliament doesn't? you're the one good, not hearing in parliament on the 17th of march was 69 minutes. you don't allow a member of parliament to speak, but as he get with you, he get beaten you week. at brighter, you are the one wanted him to speak. you are the one was making it but, but i 70 by 11 and get independent. it can be a de la melissa by allowing the house m a rushing to the well nominating what you get of this. okay, let's get on the back of it. wrong done. he was going to justice,

be he would ask you questions on and i me and you have not gotten a dollar sabrina. we can't, we can't really see the picture the year you that the newspaper that you keep showing us up to the webcam. the one on a weekly we, we can't see it in proper quality here in the studio. i'm sorry. i said, answered you, did you want to fly at either? you or you were telling us about about why was my question as well? why? why the b j p appears to be running scared of congress when they got nothing to fear at the moment, electron electrically, at least, even if you make it very clear that is laquisa not being afraid of self wood. i mean, these are all the words of imagination, of people who suffer from hysteria by way, via such a comfortable acceptance. but people think their way should be bothered. like yeah, yeah. bothered about what then allow who gandhi goes to england and says indian

democracy is endangered. so he wasn't, you shouldn't even then yes, we, pink. this is not a statement of a patriarch. this is not a stick with me, but can ever be acceptable to anybody in the country for the simple reason that internal i to be looked after by the concrete self, you can not a not big enough. it maybe this is ridiculous, missed. i'm today. she is, it gives me having she's having an okay. whereas i mean i'm, this is, i've never seen somebody hasn't been there. if, if you're, if you're, if your space, you're shouting, if i shout, i know if you're shouting at each other we, we can't hear what you're saying. the microphone cuts out because it canceled with the cycle. so please keep it, keep your voice right out. a moderate level. i'm surprised if ya roha gandy does good. i mean,

as soon as you so much from it's ok. i can't leave this alone for it or could you come up that we haven't finished? i made a point that head is a man who seeks the dimension of a foreign country into the affairs of india. how can that be acceptable? lloyd cannot receptive and this is doing bad hallmark on the trademark of the communist, as well as mr. hold on. he seems to be always on the side of pakistan. he seems to be on the side of china. anybody who's in the mid to the interest of india, he seems to be on their site. and that is what this does. because as people at the scan key, i'm get a video bout country. i mean somebody on rebecca look at this. look at this. getting imagine. can you imagine? is this the light? is this ok, that is the reason why i don't live. ok. so guy, chevrolet was your name or was it i sure that my dear, you have had your say let, let's, let's a prayer come back. supreme. ok, let's yeah, yeah. if you have a very simple points to make hill, mr. garvey was visiting by the judge was the school of the cambridge university,

which is our motto. he said indian democracy is a public good 144 people, which is 1400000 people live in indian, everybody and the bottom of this year. look at the site, this big of democracy on this planet. be it less to me and actually put in their demos the stage of the was, i mean i, you will, what can bother you? and he said no, and i can go back to, this is our problem. this is an internal problem. this is an indian problem. we will have to find a solution to this. the reality is that the b b to so that's why some of the other issue by looking at mention of it, and that is what this is all about. mr. garcia said it was not done. you disqualify me for like you need to jane i give or i will continue to fight for the democracy of this country. indian democracy was put on that. what beginning of democracy, an active member of parliament was not allowed to speak with it if you wanted to

come to speak and part of it. yeah. i, i wasn't, wasn't on the speaker to speak about it. my god. i mean, i going to have a couple of the, with the back want to go see the vote. you so talk might some people that don't know what to get up there. get up. when you look back to the next, somebody bought the shot of me because she was speaking about democracy. they ask it of a climate that was like, lit up on this, get a book, but this negative, i know that the energy of the more the government this and get done because the level and these things are date on the because we were day other than the ones l'm begun that you will need us and would actually not on the floor. they're asked to sit by moody, the bretton india is not to be sent out. they would not show you our sight of you. there were some stories and that's what not in the or the incident with the sludgy . you really want to talk about eval tactic, institution a prison,

and most it's usually not last night. and both been directed to the institution in india, which is meant to broad, innocent, well being did not get and swing overseas. there's a far warning agreement. give them the apartment director is based on what he has come to power and guess what? 95 percent of us get to that again in the as opposition. if you ask the question, i was not meant the assault get around the that they could do with laura. he becomes more dangerous. cigna said, i should go to what do you want to point about, okay. all right, i don't think you're going to pull it because this is another slot support and mr whitlock, so that was your, your, at your answer that naturally i would do the only thing indian democracy's been so wooded was in 1975 and look who did that the party or 1st security emergency live all the fundamental rights also, citizen,

was suspended so much for the commitment of democracy by the congress. you heard about probably you heard you heard about be shipping being scared. the problem is that congress is scared because of its good domestic would bank by its diminishing presence in the lives of indian politics. it has, it has to do with it says, but memories are party today. you sure. among passing, the will dandy is the best yard before beach it. right, because here is a man who mix is responsible speak when, who makes fully as a whole month of political leadership. and they want us to utilize that such a person as, as to be taken seriously. the reality is that the b g, b in its entire machine, any wouldn't so much money as a reputation to get to that next mr. gun mean, they're not the ones that mr. dog,

even. it's in the shop. honest man. and which is why the longest shaking b, b. there is nothing else to this. they have realized that that entire machinery has failed to come to the fascinate army. he's asking questions of relevance. every thing that he said about the d, about the call, but places about china about and i'm all done to mr movie has had eat unless by one of the other. and i only take 10 seconds because this is about definition, you go, la congress, g, a window of the congress. you've got a sudden a high bridge. got you got on matter one to be got a good friend. you see that the prime minister went a legal, the house. you think these are statements, right? you should be, oh, okay, good deal must've messed up. you should be a good book. if you watch that movie, i got there destiny, where we are on a new deal. we on say that we are out of time. i'm sorry that that's where we must

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