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expelled from india's parliament and sentence, the 2 years in prison. the countries main opposition leader raoul gandhi is punished for a speech that a court says was the family tree of the family name of prime minister marin ramadi . but is this fair or proportional or side of increasing political repression? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan. he's one of india's most well known political names, but if prosecutors have their way for a whole gundy could become the country's most famous prisoner. on thursday, a court found him guilty of defamation and referring to the family name of prime minister there under moody, in a speech made 4 years ago. candy's been sentenced up 2 years in jail, but remains free for the moment on bail pending an appeal. a day later on friday he

was disqualified as an m b because of the conviction candy's opposition congress party and allies accused the governing b. j. p of using defamation laws to silence critics. he says he won't be intimidated. i am here defending the democratic voice of the new people. i will continue to do that. i am not scared of these threads of these disqualifications of these allegations of these prison sentences. i don't care, i'm not scared of them. okay. these people don't understand me yet. i am not scared of them. they are used to everybody game being scared of them. i am not scared of them. the governing b, j. p said that the law had taken its course and gave its fear as to why gandy was prosecuted bon widest spot. be back, you look up. good. congress party members are saying a lot of things in, but they aren't saying, harper, who can be actually said this case against him was for commons at an election rally in 2019 and karnataka. he said,

how come all the thieves have mowdy as the common surname? hope you that the mother up it would, it sort of name goal is if you're going to insult the entire movie surname. this is completely defamatory, by a case was run and were who gandy was allowed to present himself. and course, his lawyers put up their arguments. prosecution presented their witnesses and according to the law, this decision was given up. we'll be talking about what this case means for the country with our guests in just a moment. but 1st, let's find a little more about to roll. gandhi, india is a republic, but you could classify him as the equivalent of political royalty his heir to its narrow down the political didn't estie. his mother was the congress parties, longest serving leader had his father, grandmother, and great grandfather were all prime ministers. raoul gandhi, was the main contender against the hindu nationalist. b, j. p. lead, under andrew moody, in the general election in 2014. that was when the congress party was swept from power, he resigned as leader of the congress party,

out of the b. j. p. increased its share of seats and parliament in poles in 2019. but he remains a very important figure. ah, that's bring it august for today's program from new delhi, we're joined by saddam shoot metal senior leader and politician with a party. a janitor party also in new delhi, is a surprise or not a national spokesperson for the indian national congress potty, sir, i'm sure if i remember correctly from my journalism law training days, the definition of defamation is a statement which injures a 3rd parties. reputation. how could gone these comments vague as they were of injured a specific person or party? was this verdict politically motivated? a he has not been convicted for defaming mr. let. in the more the, the prime, the stuffing that he has been convicted for, the seeming button is more d who was administered when jack in his 1st taping because they had to be

differently. keith. secondly, the indian parliament never would did it against mister gun visa of a fraud mister graham, his disqualification. the disqualification of listed on these automatic, why the supreme court judge when in 2013. the issue is this is a private persons complete. this is section $9.00 to $4.00 or $99.00 and $5.00 and it will be in peanut. and that little court lives down that anybody who forensic viewed by us, which is definitely to him, can approach the court thought it is. now mr. good knish went to the court said, what he has said is how come all p ardmore these? now he belongs to the movie community, which is an other backward class committed in india. and after much examination, after looking at the material on recording, after examining witnesses,

the court has found mr. danley guilty of defamation. now i must also add one more thing. must the court give mister gormley, an opportunity of apologizing for making this little gatekeeper coming there, which hurt mr. goodness, money when he refused to do it. now these are the choices he need for the choices that app, ma'am, there is no evidence required because this was electronically recorded. so he would not have denied what he said. and he made a choice of not apologizing. so he has been convicted and has a st. ben c as we can human 2 years of imprisonment. okay. not as but the indian law you're asked what the just one more thing as for the, in the law, if you get a conviction of a sentence meters, 2 years or more, you want to magically disqualify it's. that's the point where it is the question of it, and this is the point that i wanted to make to you the sentence. i'm sorry to be cynical

here, but he was given 2 years, which just happens to be the statutory minimum penalties or render a sitting member of parliament in other ineligible for office. but that's going to be that's no coincidence surely. no, i don't think you have any right on anybody at the end of a dollar, especially on the biz them or be presiding judge. and then is the says some, but he has to law or simply judgment. bad need right for them is not. this would be like for him, is the appellate authority and to price at the low begun. these are not going to the appellate authority, but to question why a 2nd quantum of punishment was given. the says, this is a contempt. i don't think good. and your 1st or qualified to really do that. so well, what do you make of, of both the verdict and the sentence there? what does it say about the judiciary in india?

i don't want to comment on the judicial in india, but i will make my own remarks on what is perhaps the most political been debt of any kind. and i want to put some facts on the table theme to you or my wanted equally from the b j. b. but the board needs to know what has happened. mr. gone, been april 2019 big statement in canada, which is when his judgment has been delivered by the way in the state of connecticut, in the actual speech, there is a good in fuller, would you not that starts trying this case? magistrate the lead, on this case, the complainant, bernice moore. the is not named by own gun. the they are trained image will mr. danley names learn more the leader more the end, a movie. but mr. burnish more the now a minister than a man in the beach at the government of budget. our state does not have a lot to stand. i do actually go to court on this matter. that's why number one,

when number 2, any actual speech is guys and wrong by the police. there have been nobody's investigation and, and i guess that's why number 2. this is an important thing because people need to know, april 19th, april 2019 is one, is the gun, the mix, the speech, the other bus. and it was a good job for you know, the trial began. but it said that it is on record. the josh bernice moore, the him center goes to the alabama high school. we do hire board board in florida, and i will stay on the proceedings, not listen to me carefully. he will stay on the proceedings. and then on the february, mr. wrote down the mix of scanning speech and barnum and exposing the link. but to me, in the prime minister, i got them a danny,

who is in the eye of with you and you can and mr. what do you use us to program that really makes the speech on the 16th february when it goes back to the end of our high school. and in the mean time, the district is changed just as the way it's taken away. that is a new ministry to comes and i'm not going to be the one of them on the 16th 9 years later, mr. correlational, the goes to the end of a good one is application to be withdrawn. he also stay you thinking of february proceedings begin or at the time of the gentleman, look one second please. or with a question, if you later, later, once you've laid off one thing, i would use a if you want to go to the level of lying it all back, let's not get into the with it. i want one thing on record, right?

it is important. yeah. it mr. garvey was given us and up one the other 11 months and when the 9 did, he would not have been disqualified, but he was given them honestly, just raise the den. yes. and the government did not which, but which, which was the point i've been, which was the point that i put promised. i won't be surprised now that he's doing this was the point that i put to sudan shoe and, and that you made as well, this sentence of 2 years. there's a political vendetta, sedan shoe against a rock. gandhi, i am, i am so beaned, and i am so amazed that you can him do motives on a judge without dealing, having humanly preliminary, ah evidence. who said that there was a bias. you as a political coming day to have a do not have the right to make a judgement on the to be sure the suitable for just in india. we have an

independent judiciary and judiciously service. a jews are reviewed. we can because we can't clim my life. i me, are you saying this is my life id? i telling her her is mellow friday and didn't verb the consequence of the judy, the bus cliff. do you have an independent judiciary? you cannot denigrate judicially by law including motives as far as her, the facts she has laid down. let me elaborate on the fact. the fact is that good national or b isn't data this guess is not to be investigated by police officer because it's a private complaint. and under section 14, i do what i'd like and $500.00 i'll be in court. this is the pro vision. if people and i can't help it, if mr. danley does not understand, the consequences offered deformity statement and the punishment isn't that. you see there was a fall from a mind of a few been said,

they're still a little, not 80. ok. i can face my, you know, you were we like without shout across each other like this a long way. we're going to have the issue of the issue as simple. sure. i'm sure we get, but we can't shout across each other like this because my own we're here. i'm not. i would say, i'm ok. i'm going to make a last quick point this please. last. just one last i heard a communist m. b. one of the senior most numbered by them from you be saying they should be a separate lawford begun these can you imagine in that course to so democracy which has a scheme of things in because you see this kind of a demand can be made by a congress well by the party can make this demand that there should be a separate off about it. ok. but hang on. i don't. can i please come in now? i think i would write to them. yes. please go on. yeah, thank you very much. so let not be driven by deep news

propaganda. let's not graduate from what happened this book university. mr. mcdaniel, what you were seen them? i don't, i don't i melana to time and b is enroll. yes. don't do that because we live and whatever it is that my number one way. number 2, i would love to take you to the court if you, if you need anything longer, guest me please do him. and the noise from the junior select asked him, but i tell you, doesn't it, that this is not going to be me that maybe this is how you think i to be, we are, i'm an international sales manager. and i like you can try you. it does, i give it a time. yeah. please do it. how i can you know, try to get it. okay. look like i had to do. i have to remind you both. i have to remind you both. we want to hear what both of you have. i said, we can't, she can come to me. shout. such are the leaves. i like this so frail. when you click on delaware, what, what do you not superior of the speed at which roha gandy was? it was expelled from parliament following the verdict. mister garvey gathered that

bidding, living daylights of the v g b a crime, yet i will not let me that bar. okay, scroll down to print, let me, let me put that point too. so i'll share these eventually. i just thought it just a minute. let me just see, don't worry, okay, with opinion with opinion polls showing reject your body. all right, listen with with opinion poll, sharing the b, j. p. having an unassailable lead ahead of next year's election, unloading himself, remaining incredibly popular among voters. why would any politician from the governing party be concerned about what ronald gandy in the congress party says, or does again understand leaf escalation and the mr. conferred in the congress gambling because of the demoralization. but let me just see, don't section it 3 of the to presented of, of people's act. it says a person convicted of an offense and sentenced to imprisonment for not less than 2 years. i shall be disqualified from the it offsets can live until it continues to

be disqualified for the, for the period of 6 years after his leave, the southern law. this is not what the parliament deciding. this is the law of the land. now if somebody is the law of the line, see ye me believe in the registry of law in those that go county govern by law. now, are you trying to say that the law fled should be you flynn, for the guns? no, the law says that if you are convicted and you have a sentence of 2 years, you will be disqualified, please, goodness qualified. when is the domain coming to the picture? where does digitally go into the picture? it is that one choice zone boy, he had an option of apologizing. he did not who chose the sentence, so be it. so how do we come into the picture? this is not a prosecution by the state. it's a but i would but complain. so please let, i didn't listen, i need to see what is i honestly, i think a kind of a little game with the dog and the premises who this cables are dba? obviously i sure if, if rog and i have heels the same as like like when he appeals,

if it's, if a philosophy reduced or overturned, will he be reinstated, as an empty that no, no he just that the government has nothing to google it. nobody has anything to do with is the court. if the court gives him an order, i meant the conviction that says these and only to finish this lady, not, not be so so much, you know, he is the sure how the suspect of which you can be in a to be the issue as it's for the quarter to sign it, but what i had to do it would be good to go to the decides that this her conviction has to be the same. so here you go, do you fit it? so you be sure off your judicial process and laughlin is nothing to do with any politics. no. what does love learning is not to be shown as the politics hoping to know this. a lot of the politics of the politics of india is that of government. i want you to listen to our next to that non us look at this, daniel, and i'm certainly not to print. i think i know it interrupted. ok, look,

look surprised. this is as a if you didn't put up a question as do since you're so popular. why should be the other one bother? who's bothered about her? the condition of the home dandy? whose mother yet be good for the wednesday? things like that one of the semester and also one of these so that she left her a surprise. you can come in. what do you want to say? i think to say that, i mean it doesn't, the more the government who are asking round i need to come to parliament and speak . they were actually bentley, that we get there. but i'm his visit wrong. i'm yes that was these about india b, india. democracy being a public good. i just saw your view was a picture of the indian democracy. men mother following one did tomorrow. we don't know what he thought was the listing them once again. i asked for

a bank to wire in writing and was after me. speaker of the logs amount, which is the legislature where he's elected to he was not given dying on the 16th of march. instead of being the indian democracy was functioning, i would have binding parliament in minimal disease on the reality is what can you search office might you put in by the end of the proceeding on mute, have you ever heard democracy or parliament doesn't? you're the one good, not hearing in parliament on the 17th of march was 60 no minutes. you don't allow a member of parliament to speak, but as he get with you, he get beaten you. we get pricing that you were the one wanted him to speak. you are, the one was needing it for the bus that is 70 by 11 and get independent. it gives me a de la melissa, but will not allowing the house ever rushing to the well give us nominating one day? no, you get of this. okay, let's get in the back of it. wrong done. he was given

a chance to speak, he would ask you what's going on and you have not got them on. so we'll get to put an absolute power supply. we can't, we can't really see the picture. the, you know, the newspaper that you keep showing us up to the webcam, the one on a weekly we, we can't see it in proper quality here in the studio. i'm sorry. i said, answered you, did you want to fly at the you you were you were telling us about about going as my question as well. why? why the b j. p appears to be running scared of congress when they got nothing to fear at the moment. electra electra li, at least if you make it very clear that is laquisha not being afraid or seal foot. i mean these are all the words of imagination, of people who suffer from hysteria by way. media, a comfortable acceptance by the people from the way should me be bothered. right? yeah. yeah. bothered about what then around who got the boosting and says indian

democracy is endangered. so you were saying you shouldn't even then yes, we think this is not a statement of a patriarch. this is not a statement which can ever be acceptable. know anybody in the country for the simple reason that internal i to be looked after by the concrete self you can not even, not big enough. it is, this is ridiculous, missed she is that you'd be having, she's having an okay. whereas i mean on this, i've never seen, somebody hasn't been there. if, if you're, if you're, if you're space, you're shouting, if i shout, i know if you're shouting at each other we, we can't hear what you're saying. the microphone cuts out because it canceled with the cycle, so please keep it, keep your voice. i'm not a moderate level. i'm surprised if ya roha gandy does go to the diamond and synergy

so much from it's ok. i came from. is this one for it? or question that we haven't finished. i made a point that head is a man who seeks the dimension of a foreign country into the affairs of india. how can that be acceptable? you cannot be accepted. and this isn't bad hallmark or the trademark of the phone. this is a listen listed older than he seems to be always on the side of pakistan is used to be on the side of china. anybody who's in the me going to the interest to linger. she seems to be on this site and that is what this stuff just because as people at the scan key and get a video poker and p, i because i'm not prepared and then having someone, rebecca, look at this, look at this. can you imagine genuine magine is this okay, that is the reason why i call this. ok, so gotcha. a you have, you've heard you say let's, let's, let's a prayer, come back. supreme ok, let's you and you are very simple points to make your, mr. garvey was visiting by the what the judge was the school of the cambridge

university, which is our motto. he said indian democracy is a public good hearted party or people which is one by 4000000 people live in indian democratic system. and the base of our democracy is going to the site big of democracy on this planet. be a question. you have to be put into a democracy at center stage of the one he was a li. are you with what can bother you? and he said no, and i can go back to this is our problem, this is, i didn't done a problem. this is an indian problem. we will have to find a solution to this. the reality is that the b b a. so that's why some of the other issue that i wouldn't have mention of it from and on. and that is what this is all about. mr. garcia said it was not done. you disqualify me for like, you need to jail. i give are bad. i will continue to fight for the democracy of this country. indian democracy was put on that. what beginning of democracy and elected member of parliament was not. * allowed to speak for kennedy as he wanted

him to come to speak in parliament. yes, i said, i think i wasn't, wasn't but the speaker, the speaker go to my god. you know, i mean, i think going to have a couple, he would be back wanting to go see the vote. you sort of might some people that i don't know what to get up there. get a for 21 year pilot back to the dentist. somebody bought the shot of me because she was speaking about democracy. they are scared of a climate act was like a ton book. this kind of a, bob, mike is negative on our back in the reality of the more the government and get done because the smaller democracy and these things are date on the gun we were den, other than the ones who have begun that you will need us and will actually not on the floor, there will be the president in the eyes, not to be sense not they would not show you outside of your stories and that's what not in the country. you. 6 you want to go back institution, a prison,

and it's usually not last night. and both been directed to the institution in india, which is meant to prove innocent, well being did not get a swing overseas. there is a bar warning agreement get some of the important electives as possible, the department and get what 95 percent of those cases. i guess in our position. if you ask the question of not meant they are get around the that they could do with iraq, you become more dangerous sickness of that should do you want to or to block ok. all right, a support and missed a joy to answer that naturally, i would do the only thing indian democracy has been so wooded was in 1975 and look who did that. the party or 1st p r t, emergency live, all the fundamental lights. also citizen was suspended so much for the commitment

to democracy by the congress. you heard about probably you heard you heard about be shipping being scared. the problem is that congress is scared because of its good domestic wood bank by its diminishing presence in the lives of indian politics. it has, it has to do with itself, but memories are partly today. you sure, among passing the will dandy is the best yard before beach it. right. because here is a man who mix irresponsible stickman who makes fully as a hallmark of political leadership. and they want us to utilize that to such a person as, as to be taken seriously. the reality is that the b gibb units and dial machine any have so much money as to the reputation to get her back mister gun need been, i'm not the one that mister got even in the shop. honest man. and which is why the

land is shaking defeat. there is nothing else to this. they have realized that the entire machinery has failed to come to the fascinate army. he's asking questions of relevance. every thing that he said about the di, about the global prices, about china, about denying all come to mr movie has had to eat unless by one of the other. and i only take 10 seconds because this is the definition. you go the congress, she opened up the congress. you got a son, a hybrid. got you got mattered. want to be good friends. you will see that the prime minister with a legal the house you think these are statements, right? you to be a you? oh, okay. do you must've messed up? you should be a good book. if you watch that movie, i got there destiny, where we are on a new deal. we on say that we are out of time. i'm sorry. that's where we must end

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