disturbance since pakistan just seen it creep into sim province and below just on as wall. this is the same system that produce some flooding in iraq and quade. but things have dried off there as we look toward tuesday. here's where those storms are, though from 2 by 2 mosse got on tuesday, but elsewhere across the gulf, at a bad day and a 129 degrees, the winds have shifted. so it's not going to be as humid, susan. ah, but in a post colonial world, the scars of european imperialism run deep nowhere more so than in the democratic republic of congo, where her history still shapes the presence of visceral, yet intimate insight. through the eyes of a whistleblower and a patriotic military commander witnessed presents. this is congo on a geneva expelled from india's parliament incentives for 2

years in prison. the country's main opposition leader raoul gandy is punished for a speech that a court says was the family tree of the family name of prime minister marin ramadi . but is this fair or proportional or side of increasing political repression? this is inside story. ah, hello and welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan. he is one of india's most well known political names, but if prosecutors have their way for a whole gundy could become the country's most famous prisoner. on thursday, a court found him guilty of defamation and referring to the family, a name of prime minister, the render moody in a speech made 4 years ago. and he's been sentenced to 2 years in jail, but remains free for the moment on bail pending and appeal. a day later on friday

he was disqualified as an m. b because of the conviction, gandhi's opposition congress party and allies accused the governing b. j. p. of using defamation laws to silence critics, he says he won't be intimidated. i am here defending the democratic voice of the new people. i will continue to bill that i am not scared of these threads of these disqualifications of these allegations. of these prison sentences. i don't care, i'm not scared of them. okay. these people don't understand me yet. i am not scared of them. they are used to everybody gaping scared of them. i am not scared of them . the governing b. j. p said that the law had taken its course and gave its fear as to why gandy was prosecuted. gone widest spot be back. you look, but good. congress party members are saying a lot of things in, but they aren't saying what were who gandy actually said. this case against him was for commons at an election rally in 2019 and karnataka. he said,

how come all the thieves have mowdy as the common surname? that up, it would, it sort of named goal is if you are going to insult the entire movie surname, this is completely defamatory, by a case was run and were who gandy was allowed to present himself in court. his lawyers put up their arguments. prosecution presented their witnesses and according to the law, this decision was given up. we'll be talking about what this case means for the country with our guests in just a moment. but 1st, let's find a little more about to roll. gandhi, india is a republic, but you could classify him as the equivalent of political royalty his heir to its narrow gown, the political dynasty. his mother was the congress parties, longest serving leader had his father, grandmother, and great grandfather were all prime ministers. raoul gandhi, it was the main contender against the hindu nationalist. b, j. p. lead, under andrew moody, in the general election in 2014. that was when the congress party was swept from power. he resigned as leader of the congress party,

of the b. j. p. increased its share of seats and parliament in poles in 2019 but he remains a very important figure. ah, that's bring it, i guess for today's program from new delhi, we're joined by saddam shoot metal senior leader and politician with a party, a janitor party. also in new delhi is such a fresh anata national spokesperson for the indian national congress potty said, i'm sure if i remember correctly from my journalism law training days, the definition of defamation is a statement which injures a 3rd parties. reputation. how could gandhi's comments vague as they were, have injured a specific person or party? was this verdict politically motivated? a he has not been convicted for defaming mr. let. in the more the, the prime, the stuffing that he is in convicted for defaming goodness more the who was

a modest thing. when jack in his 1st taping, it was a head to be to from it. keith. secondly, the indian parliament never wooded against mister gun visa of a fraud. mister gun disqualification. the disqualification i was to dandy is automatic. why the supreme court judge when in 2013? the issue is this the private persons complete mrs. section $9.00 to $4.00 or $99.00 and $5.00, and it'll be in phoenix. and that little court lives down that anybody who feels ignored by statement, which is definitely to him can approach the court thought and it is. now mr. good nish went to the court, said, what he has said is how come all p add more deeds? now he belongs to the movie community, which is an under backward class committed in india. and after much examination, after looking at the material on record and after examining witnesses, the court has found mr. danny g

b off definition long. i must also add one more thing with the quote gave mr. gamlee an opportunity of apologizing for making this better get her coming 3rd, which hooked mr. goodness. money. but he refused to do it. now these are the choices he need for the choices that none that is not evidence required because this was electronically rec. what did, so he would not have been made what he said, and he made a choice of not apologizing. so he has been convicted and has a st. ben's he is making human 2 years of imprisonment. ok, now as by the end in law, you're asked what the just one more thing. okay. as for the, in the law, if you get it that makes soon of a sentence meters 2 years or more, you what, what to medically disqualify it's, that's the point where it is the motion of it. and this is the point that i wanted to make to you the sentence, i'm sorry to be cynical here, but he was given 2 years,

which just happens to be the statutory minimum penalties render a sitting member of parliament in other ineligible for office. and that's, that's going to be, that's no coincidence. surely. no, i don't think you have any right on anybody at the end of a dollar, especially on the, is the more deep deciding judge. and then is the says some, but he has to law questioned the judgement that the right for them is not this. the put it to be late for him is the appellate authority enterprise. the lo be gone. these have not gone to the appellate authority, but to question why a 2nd quantum of punishment was given. the says, this is a contempt, i don't think good and your 1st or qualified to really do that. so well, what do you make of, of both the verdict and the sentence? there are, what does it say about the judiciary and india?

i don't want to comment on the judicial in india, but i will make my own remarks on what is perhaps the worst political been debt of any kind. and i want to put some facts on the table the room to you or my wanted equally from the b j b. but the board needs to know what has happened. mr. gone, been april 2019 bixler statement in canada, which is when his judgment has been delivered by the way in the state of connecticut, in actual speech, there is a god in fuller who do not that starts trying this case. magistrate w, on this case, the complainant, bernice moore. the is not named by them. gun the they are 3 individual, mr. danley names. let's more the lead on monday and that in the morning. but mr. bernice more the now a minister than a man in the b. b government of budget are state does not have a lot to stand. i do actually go to court on this matter. that's why number one

went over to any actual speech is guys and wrong by the police that have been nobody's investigation and, and i guess that's why number 2. this is an important piece because people need to know, april 19th, april 2019 is one, is the gun the make, the speech, the other bus and that for the good job for you know, the trial begins. let us show that it is on record. the john burnish movie incent, goes to the alabama high school to the higher board and the board in pseudo asked for a stay on the proceedings. now listen to me carefully. he will stay on the proceedings . and then on the february, mr. rolled gandhi makes us getting speech and bonham and exposing the link, but to be in the prime minister. i understood. got them a danny, who isn't the i up with

a huge gum and mr. what it was us to program that really makes the speech on the 16th of february, when it goes back to the end of our high school. and in the meantime, the district is changed just as the way a stick in a way that is a new ministry to comes in. i'm not going to w 2 years and one of the 1690 is liter mr. correlational. the goes to the end of a good one is application to be withdrawn. people are also still thinking of february proceedings begin or a 25 march. the gentleman on one second, please, or a list of questions. if you view later, later, once you've laid off, i just want to say one thing i would use a if you want to go to the level of lying it all back, let's not get into the with it. i want to pick one thing on record, right?

it is important. yeah. it, mr garvey was given us and a one year 11 months and when the 9 did, he would not have been disqualified, but he was given massimo minus maybe just crazy den. yes. and the government did not, which, but which, which was the point i've been, which was the point. and i put them on the surprise that he's doing this was the point that i put to sudan shoe and, and that you made as well last sentence of 2 years. there's a political vendetta, sedan shoe against a rock. gandhi, i am, i'm so beaned an am so ms. bet you can him do motives on a judge. you don't dealing, having humanly preliminary, ah evidence. who said that there was a bias. you as a political commentator, has a do not have the right to make a judgment on the judicial, the state of

a judge. in india, we have an independent judiciary, and judy shows discern, decide jose are reviewed beacon because we can't clim by the find me. are you saying this is my love id? i telling her for me, is mela, friday, and didn't verb the consequence of the duty to bus says the have an independent judiciary. you cannot be neglect judicially by law, including motives, as far as her be faxed, she of late done. let me elaborate on the fact. the fact is that would make more b isn't data this guess is not to be investigated by police officer, because it's a private complaint and under section 14, i do have one. i'd like and 5, monday to begin abroad. this is the pro vision. if people have it, i can't help it. if mr. gun be does not understand, the consequences offered deformity statement and be put spent. isn't that you see there was so far from a mind of a few been said,

they're still a little, not it. i can 1st i we're week my count without shout across each other like this along with we're going to have any issue of newton. sure. simple. sure, i'm sure we get, but we can't shout across each other like this because my own we're here. i'm not, i will say, i'm ok. i'm going to make a last quick point this please. last. just one last i heard a communist m. b. one of the senior most numbered by them from you be saying they should be a separate lawford begun these can you imagine in that course to so democracy which is a scheme of things in because you see this kind of a demand can be made by a congressman, by the party, can make this demand that there should be a separate cut off about ok, but hang on, i don't. can i please come in now? i think i'm going right to the yeah, please go on. yeah. thank you very much. so let not be driven by think news propaganda. let's not graduate from whatsapp. and this book

university, mr. mcdaniel, what you were saying about done now? and i melana to time and be is a wrong yes. don't do that because you will be live and put it. is that my number one? why number don't i? haven't buffalo take you to the court if you and seniors anything wrong against me, liz knew him and the noise from the junior select. i asked him, but i didn't know that this is not how it made me that maybe this is all you looking for. so i to be, we are, i'm an international st. joseph medical and i like you can try you, does i give it a time? yeah, please do it. how i can, you know, try it again. okay, look that up. i think i had a good i have to remind you both. i have to remind you both. we want to hear what both of you have to say. we can't, she can come to me shout. such are the leaves. i like this supreme elementary, clinton, undelivered. what, what do you not superior of the speed at which roha gandy was? it was expelled from parliament following the verdict. miss the guardian gathered

that bidding living daylights on the b. j. b a crime. yes. i will not let me bar. okay. suppose now supreme, let me, let me put that point to you though. sure. he's had and she had no. just look at it . just a minute, let me just see, don't worry, okay, with opinion with opinion polls showing, reject your body or listened with, with a pity, impose sharing the pgp, having an unassailable lead ahead of next year's election, and moody himself, remaining incredibly popular among voters. why would any politician from the governing party be concerned about what russell gandy in the congress party says? or does i can understand leaf escalation and the mr. conferred in the congress gambling because of the demoralization. but let me just see, don't section it 3 of the to presented of, of people's act. it says a person convicted of an offense and sent bench to imprisonment for not less than 2 years. i shall be disqualified from the did offset conviction until it continued to be disqualified for the, for the period of 6 years after his leave,

the southern law. this is not what the parliament decided. this is the law of the land. now, if somebody is the law of the line, you see, you read me believe in the registry of law in days that go county govern by law. now, are you trying to say that the laughlin should be you flynn for the guns? no, the law says that if you are convicted and you have a sense of 2 years to be disqualified, please disqualify. where does the domain come into the picture? witness go into the picture. it is that one choice zone boy, he had an option of apologizing. he did not who chose the sentence, so be it. so how do we come into the picture? this is not a prosecution by the state. it's a i big bar, complain to p let's i need to see what is i honestly, i think last week because it is okay with the dog and the premises who the scribbles are dba obviously, i sure if, if rog, i may have heels the same as like, like when he appeals, if it's, if a philosophy reduced or overturned,

will he be reinstated, as an empty that no, no, he does that the government has nothing to go believe that nobody has anything to do. it is the court. if the court gives him an order and i did that, i meant the conviction. it says, these are only to finish this lady, not, not be so so much in a he is the sure how the suspect of which you can be in a to be the issue as it's for the quote to decide if the, what i had to do it to be good to go to the, decides that this her conviction has to be the same. so here you're deal fitted. so you be shoes off your judicial process and the last name is nothing to do with any politics. now, what does love learning is not to be shown as the politics of dental. this is not the politics of the politics of india is that of the one. and i want you to listen to that. now you look at this, daniel, and i'm certainly not to print, i think i know it interrupted. ok, look,

look surprised. this is as a if you didn't put up a question as do since you're so popular, why should we know that you're not bother? who's bother no more. so the conviction of grounding who's bothered yet be good for the wednesday. things like that one of the semester and also insurance. so that she'll have to have a surprise. you can come in. what do you want to say? i'm a very simple thing to say that i mean it doesn't, the more the government who are asking round, i need to come to parliament and speak. they were actually making that we get there . it is better than his visit rom. yes. that all was these about india, b, india, democracy being a public good. but i just saw your view was a picture of the indian democracy. mendoza. following one day, last week there was no housing. what he thought was of was this thing that my 2nd

round, i mean ask for bank to wire in writing and was after me speaker of the law amount, which is the legislature where he is elected to he will not give a dime on the 16th of march, instead of being the indian democracy was functioning, i would have diamond parliament in minimal disease. our best, the reality is what you get all usage open. might you put in by the end of the proceeding on mute. have you ever heard of democracy or parliament gotten your the why would not get in parliament on the 17th of march was 69 minutes. you don't allow a member of parliament to speak, but as he get with you, he get beaten you. we get pricing. that you were the one wanted to speak. you are the one making it but a boss. i was 30 by 11 again independent. it can be a de la melissa, but we're not allowing the house ever rushing to the well knitting what you get on this. okay. let's get in the back of it. wrong done. he was going to just to

speak. he would ask you questions on that. i me and you have no god damn, i'm scared to put in a dollar supreme. we can't, we can't really see the picture the year you that the newspaper that you keep showing us or took to the webcam, the one on a weekly. we now we can't see it in proper quality here in the studio. i'm sorry. i said, i'm sure you did, you want to fly at either you or you were telling us about about going was my question as well. why? why the b j. p appears to be running scared of congress when they got nothing to fear at the moment, electron electrolyte, at least even if you make it very clear that is location of being assayed or feel food was, i mean, these are all the words of imagination of people who suffer from hysteria by way you have a conflict of will acceptance but people think that way should really bother. right . yeah. yeah. bothered about what then allow hoover and he goes to england and says

indian democracy is endangered. so he wasn't, you shouldn't even then yes, we, pink, this is not a statement of a patriarch. this is not a statement which can ever be acceptable to anybody in the country, but the symbolism that internal i to be looked after by the country itself. you can not even not fit into a fed up baby. this is ridiculous me. i'm today. she is a give me a ring. she's having an okay. whereas, i mean i'm, this is, i've never seen somebody hasn't been there. if, if you're, if you're, if you're space, you're shouting, if i shout, i know if you're shouting at each other we, we can't hear what you're saying. the microphone cuts out because it canceled with the cycle. so please keep it, keep your voice out a moderate level. i'm surprised if ya, raul gandhi, does good. i mean, as soon as you so much from it's ok. i think it is. this is on for it or question

up that we are not finished. i made a point that here is a man who seeks the intervention of a foreign country into the affairs of india. how can that be acceptable lloyd cannot receptive and this is doing bad hallmark on the trademark of the congress is that is mr. hold on. he seems to be always on the side of pakistani seems to be on the side of china. anybody who's in the mid to the interest of india, he seems to be on their site. and that is what this does. because as people at the scan key, i'm get a video bout country. i mean somebody on rebecca look at this, look at this. getting imagine can you imagine is this the light? is this ok, that is the reason why i don't live. ok. so i show like was your name or was it? i'm sure that was yeah. you had, you've had your say let, let's, let's a prayer come back spring. ok let's you a very simple points to make killed. mr. garvey, was visiting by the judge was the school of the cambridge university,

which is our motto. he said indian democracy is a public good 144 people, which is 1400000 people live in indian stuff. and the bottom of the site. this big of democracy on this planet asked me any questions you actually put in their democracy at the stage of the was i, i you will. what can bother you? and he said no, and i can go back to, this is our problem. this is, i didn't done a problem, this is an indian problem. we will have to find a solution to this. the reality is that the b, b a. so that's why some of the other issue that i want to mention of it. and that is what this is all about. mr. garcia said it was not done. you disqualify me for life, you will send me to jail. i give a dime. i will continue to fight for the democracy of this country. indian democracy was put on that. what beginning of democracy and elected member of parliament was not. * to speak with if you wanted to come to speak and i said i

wasn't, wasn't going to speak of the speaker, but i think i think going to have a cup of tea with me. that's what didn't go see the you. so talk might some people that don't know what to get up there, get up. when you look back to the next, somebody bought the shot of me because she was speaking about democracy. they ask it of a climate that was like, lit up on this, get up about this negative. i know that the energy of the more the government this and get done because the level and these things are date on the because we were going other than the ones l'm begun that you will need us and will actually load on the floor. they're asked by moody, the bretton india is not to be sent out. they would not show you our sight of you. there were some stories and that's what not in the country. you really want to talk about eval patrick institute. i am

a student that last night and both been director of an institution in india, which is meant to broad, innocent, well being did not get and swing overseas. there's a bar warning agreement, give them again, but my director is based on what he has done to power and guess what? 95 percent of those cases are against india's opposition. if you ask the question of not meant the assault, get around on the that they could do with laura, he becomes more dangerous sickness or does she go to what you're talking about? okay. all right, and i don't think you're going to put another slop support and with what you're, you're at your answer that naturally i would do the only thing indian democracy isn't. so would it was in 1975 and look who did that the party or 1st security emergency live. all the fundamental rights of a citizen was suspended so much for the commitment to democracy by the congress.

you heard about? probably you heard you heard about be shipping being scared. the problem is that congress is scared because of its good domestic goodbye by its diminishing presence in the lives of indian politics. it has, it has to do with itself, but merely so party today. you sure. among passing, the will dandy is the best t, r before beach it. right? because here is a man who mix irresponsible speak when, who makes fully as a whole month of political leadership. and they want us to utilize that such a person as, as to be taken seriously. the reality is that the b g b in its entire machine, any wouldn't so much money at the back of the reputation to get us back next mr. gun barrel. i'm not the one that mister god isn't in the shop. honest man. and

which is why the longest shaking defeats there is nothing else to them. they have realized that their entire machinery has failed to come to the fascinate army. he's asking questions of relevance. everything that he said about the d, about the call, but places about china about tonight, all come to mr movie has had eat unless by one of the other. and i only take 10 seconds because this is the definition. you got congress. she opened up the congress. you got a high bridge. got you got a matter to one to be got a good friend. you will see that the prime minister went on in the house. you think these are statement, right? you to be a, you know, okay, do you must it that you should be a good book? if you watch that movie, i got there destiny, where we are on a new deal. we are, we are out of time. i'm sorry. that's where we must end it. thank you both sedan

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