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course whether, whether making his way towards cape town over the next day or so that will clip its way through. we'll see some wet weather then slipping across eastern parts of south africa, heading towards jo bag. with n 543, he wanted a front takes on the big issues. this isn't one off. he's talking about a systemic issue here. black labs don't really matter in the police were unflinching questions is war with lawanda, imminent rigorous debate? people who are dying because of lack of medical treatment, challenging conventional wisdom. the fact that people are starting to get angry about this is in itself a sign of program. join me, mark him on hill for upright on al jazeera. ah, israel strikes garza and lebanon rafter rated the i like the most. your affairs, the unrest will spread across the region. so what will it take to de escalate?
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this is inside story with had a welcome to inside story. i'm nick clark, from lebanon to god's are in the occupied west bank. there's been a sharp increase in violence between palestinians and israelis, is raised fears of a wider confrontation. questions around what this means for the already tense situation and garza, the israeli military says it carried out air strikes on hamas positions. after intercepting rockets fired from the region, there are no reports of casualties. israel is also carried out as strike some parts of southern lebanon. the military says it's in response to rockets fired into israel on thursday. witnesses say the missiles fell into an open area near a palestinian refugee camp, damaging homes and farmland. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu promised
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a strong response. thank you. by remar. when mike made it very clear that our enemies shouldn't testers, the internal struggle in israel won't stop us from responding wherever and whenever necessary. and who will not go to what we're calling for calm and we will act against the extremists who resort to violence. as for the aggression against us on other fronts, we will strike our enemies and they will pay a price for any acts of aggression. our enemy will discover once again that in moments of truth, the citizens of israel stand united and unified and support the actions of the army and the security forces to defend our country and our citizens. in the occupied west bank to israeli women have been killed and another seriously injured in the shooting is ready. authorities say the attack is targeted a vehicle in the west bank. local media reports. the victims are a mother and her 2 daughters. and i says, the attack is
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a natural response to the raids on alex this week with some, some lot palestine ambassador to the u. k. had this to say, this is the israeli play book for 75 years that has since its establishment a playbook that goes like this, or they provoke the palestinian people into provoking them. so the retaliate is one has been provoking and provoking over the over the months the, the weeks the days. and janine and nobliss and hebrews and garza, the located garza. and then of course, the peak of that for a vocation as is, ryan knows very well as an ox, a sharif and hot on sharif as happened, the last few nights during the holy month of ramadan. and this playbook goes like this because there's my lives on violence. it lives on the oppression on subjugation of an entire mission. ah. all right, let's bring in our panelists in ramallah were joined by neu de, who's
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a political analyst and form a spokeswoman for the palestinian national authority of eve in israel. is already rummy. who's the founder and president of the jerusalem press club in a former israeli government spokesman? and in tennis, francesca open easy, the united nation special reporter on the occupied palestinian territories welcomes . welcome to all of you know, i'd like to start with the 1st of all, there is a tragic familiarity to all of this. isn't that worship? is it a deeply sacred site beaten rocket attacks, reprisals, death. it is just a relentless cycle. and here we go again. well, yeah, it's relentless and it's never ending because none of the factors changed. and the one factor that remains quite constant is the fact that israel can get away with all of it. it's going to get away with the remaining an occupying power. it can get away with entering and rating and storming along some mosque and undermining the
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historic and legal status quo in jerusalem and locks us specifically without any consequence. and so it doesn't feel any incentive to change course to let go of the poet, people to let go of that occupation. and it had set up the set the stage really for a very violent month. i remember from as far as the beginning of the year is where i was warning about madonna, the from a bon was somehow a month where old palestinians turned into air wolves when the fact is that all these israeli deliberate provocations and restrictions produce a very tense situation that can and as we've seen as spiraled into further violence and further vitality, unfortunately, nor is that your sense of where this is going, escalating violence. well, look, i have to remind the viewers, the reality under occupation is
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a violent every day. so when we talk about an escalation, we're talking about an uptick in the violence that palestinians experience every day. i don't think that we are headed into an all out confrontation, but i do think that the situation remains where remains very, very precarious. and the more is real pushes, how often in injuries filament across the occupied was bank and the more heat have a phony and gaza feel the more likely unfortunate leg is the things might deteriorate even further notice or me and tell a vive, given the tensions why would israeli forces go in such a heavy handed way into the place of worship? is the maximum ask on frankly, i have read some bit of criticism of the way our police handle it, but let's put it in perspective. i'm in israel. sam. 67 has kept their freedom of
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the religion a alex, a mosque, and then i with all the problems and the walls and the violence, ah, this principle was kept really a rigorous and bye bye. all is really government. ah, the problem is that there are forces and mainly from us and design which try to use this sacred play separate to both as jews and muslims. ah to spark a spark another wave of violence in the region and, and in the violence you saw 2 days ago and asked her mos ah, a retina resulted from the fact that some 300 people went into the mosque armed with clubs and stones. and what have you,
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and i don't think most people go that way to a are center, go to a mosque or to a church. so the police tend to react. and the, as i said, the in the beginning, it record a bit, a heart harshly than necessary. but for that and the very points, isn't it that they went in more harshly than is necessary? and yeah, we're in a situation that we're in, which is escalation. and look, if that is what we're stopping again, did the blame game who started walk a fine? all i'm saying is look at the, at the broadly, the broad picture is that every friday ah, tens of thousands. and if not more, i'm whistling worshippers go to the temple mom and pray and go back. ah, we had the problem there. as i said, it resulted from
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a group of people who came there to start a to a trouble not to pray. and we had to handle the hang of it. i could nor did jump in that. i don't want to get into a tit for tat about what happened. but really, i think sticking to facts is extremely important, is the israeli police has no business and no right being inside and has no business, restricting palestinians, and deciding who can enter the some off and for how long. and the fact is there is a tradition ever to legit tradition. just stay at the lock up to stay over night. i thought of saw praying and interest introspection. and israel wanted to restrict that. i wanted to stop that band that. so the fact that some palestinians may have been, you know, apprehensive about
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a possible class with these really security forces with the israeli occupation, force of, sorry is not because they were looking for trouble is because they knew it was going to happen. because if they had been writing an offer days, this was no surprise, this is the modus operandi of the occupation and to say that israel has respected religious freedom, isn't really, you know, and i want to stay respectful year and i don't want to gear off point but that's just factually incorrect, and all international reports refute that was a restrict when you say the palestinian under 30 or $45.00 cannot go to jerusalem. you are restricting their right to freedom of religion when you decide who can answer and who cannot. when you back people from the front from the old city, then you are not respecting the right of religion. you're not respecting that. i didn't know i just wanted to move on and we haven't yet heard from for francesco,
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vanessa who's the united nation special realtor on the occupied policy in touch with francesca. what's your sense of where we're at now? the overall situation, how serious is it? oh, i think it's very serious to let me. i don't want to. the other figures are saying, i think that the source recent attacks on a lot where reckless and beyond where you lean on the basic human rights of the palestinians, including their eyes to worship, entering and causing damage to the alex and mosque. the start of school agreement to which israel is under obligation to respect and in the sense yes. ringback there's no reason for the police to go green, and so these attacks are either unprecedented or, you know, or isolated. i agree with these really speakers that the context, the mattress and the context is that of an abusive occupation which operates outside what is for me to buy international by international law. so it's not that
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it is not something that started this week this year, or even in 2022 or in 2021. and it's a reality wearing a bunch of students in your confinement and confiscation home demolition, discriminatory law enforcement mass incarceration. and not are countless abuses that indeed is a new mediation. so the violence is only due to, to continue unless the redeemable illegality is a fixed. no, and i just want to, i'm picking a band because we have the same or it is very quickly go back to that very quickly . a better feel today if, if for just that agrees with me about the conference that's brought in a bit further and say that we came up with the austin or an initiative which might finish their corporation and the protestant us. i know so and now i'm victimizing for ever. so this is where we are. ok let's i just want to get it back to
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what's happened in the last few days. i want to pick this up for i'm going to give you some background. it's going to come back to in a 2nd. you'll have availability to talk, but nor say thursday, we have the israeli military once again attacking worshippers in. alack, sir. and then we have dozens of rockets being fired in from lebanon into israeli territory. biggest escalation since 2006 for our audience. tell us about who fired those rockets and why from lebanon? well, we don't know fired the wrong. it's been no claim responsibility as far as i, i know israel accused huh. even though have off is not based in living on. and it responded virus by bombarding the gaza strip, which is still considered an occupying power of it is
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a land that is besieged by israel. but since 2006 and it also bombarded southern limit on the, the idea that an escalation that these scenes of brutality can happen in jerusalem . while alice video look on wild people see that there is this entrenched culture of infinity of no concept. one is absurd, israel continues to insist that it can do whatever it wants in jerusalem, and it expects palestinians everywhere else to be quiet and mute. and that has proven folly. and francesca said, while this brutality continues, it is unrealistic to expect anyone not to respond. so we saw the escalation in southern lebanon. i don't think there is any verifiable way to, to know who fired the rockets. and i don't think it really matters. because it is obvious from the way israel re a reacted the. there is no nobody seeking an all out confrontation. the
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easiest target for israel is the palestinians that can target them and brutalize them without any consequence, without getting any regional actors involved. and so it has done that, and it will continue to do that as long as it can get away with it. that's just the brutal, brutal, the reality of it for the related patients off low or not. all right, her just get for those who don't know the history, how does has will fit into the picture. and they may not be responsible for these rocket attacks, but they would have known about it, right? yeah, just one coin to, to answer a question before i, whatever the agreement, the agreement can not infringe the right of self determination of any people, including the audience and now a previous violence against and you want to doesn't want to do those dimensions with another situation. is
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course, because there are being indiscriminate attacks is launched by southern lebanon as well. just a 2006. i don't know the law was behind it, but i've done all that tax subsidies since must be protected. and there are principles of the shenanigan distinctions that are car, do you know, any transgressive or international? but again, the context is that a nation that was predictable and you had to mean not to not to trigger it. and this is, this is a question that we should all reflect upon. the thing that we have power between e in between 0 and honesty as groups can also. so those will be considered. i mean, when you, when we talk about the discriminate against against the c v e occupation,
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your commission is the trigger duties violence and it's not going to be based on monday for security reasons. i'm sorry, i don't why. why has translated into the creation of but over 270 colonies in your to buy land and it costs for over 7720 pounds. and it's way d, c, v. this is what we should be talking about because this is the trigger, divide it with the palestinians. very joint to come back to that. this is the trigger that inevitably, the resistance is going to come if the palestinians are treated in this way. well the difference between the way israel defense itself and the way the understanding is to they are defending their cause is that israel tries goes out of his way, not to his civilians. and, and, and there i can tell you,
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i can tell you is a former air force colonel there. and many times when the pilots or people who operate unmanned vehicles, they, they stop, they don't launch the messiah or something, because some uninvolved people are wrong. on the, on the contrary, what we saw today, ah, a, there was bank is somebody seen it's ah, killing brutally and intentionally ah, 2 sisters and a critically wounded and their mother and at the other. i didn't hear anything from the other 2 speakers about this. so that's the difference. i mean, we try and i question to you, my question to you, you are a, was it was more about that the trigger for all this violence one way or the other. it comes down to the root cause, which is the occupation. there are 3 a day that says the continuation of the occupation is
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a result of their continuous rejection ism of but his thing is to any peace settlement. and we came up with mike on osler codes and went with david in 2000 and, and still they keep saying no and no. and this is what happens. i'm frankly, personally, i'm not for as settling that was been would use. i would rather stay in his room proper, but when you have on the other side at wagner, which i even doesn't think he has for now, sir, ah, it's a problem. ok. nor respond to that if you will. i mean, where do i begin? but let me just remind the viewers, because there's been so much in the past few minutes that israel has killed thousands of palestinian civilians. it has destroyed entire residential buildings.
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it has targeted the press. it has down to an entire building, housing, elders, and a be in garza, it killed our colleague and friend should be in a box in jeanine. so when we're talking about the israeli army, let's keep that in perspective. the a plethora of evidence about targeting civilians about wiping entire families of the population registry are abundant and they can be found very easily. they are readily available to say that palestinians reject that freedom and self determination. and that's why israel must occupy them is an old line. it seems that some think that it does doesn't get old, but it really, really is old and used. and it's all fun. nonsensical. the palestinian right to be free of israeli domination of israeli brutalization is absolute and to excuse the commission of war crimes,
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which is what building settlements and transferring the occupiers population. it is simply laughable. israel stood and its occupation if it were interested, but you have a government now that is committed to not just decimating the palestinian people but to treating the entirety of historic palestine as the land of israel to denying the existence of the palestinian people to denying their very own humanity, you have ministers who are responsible for controlling the lives of palestinian school. i've been convicted even in israel for being provocative wars for attacking israeli security for attacking palestinians. and they're inviting a lot of these programs and a lot of these attacks by his receptors against palestinian civilians and by israeli occupation authorities against palestinian civilians. this is not a chase of linea palestinians who want to remain occupied so they can remain
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violent. that's a very racist idea to present a quite frankly, at the nation. maybe don't know me, but french on the bottom line is little going to chain without a massive international effort. francesca, what do you make of the response to the like, so, provocations that canadian prime minister coolio and israel to shift its approach from, from the violence, seen it like so. there was little else really would you call for more international condemnation? and what more needs to be done for say, the united states? yes, it's clear that mere words of condemnation. no, no, i don't work anywhere particularly here where again i want to stress for the viewers that the relationship is not as medical, one between 2 to equal entities or countries. there is 11 people on
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one state buying another. we've a significant in the tree of forces and power in coming to coming into play is that we as thing to the state of affairs and calling for negotiations between the buyer and you buy an international community should simply abide by international law. and so to not recognize the fact that the region actually wrongful, actually committed by israel and do not extend recognition of the, of the colonization of the occupied territory. and also ask participation and reparations for the lead a lot. but also in the, in the current reality, it's absolutely necessary to deploy a protective presence that guarantees the c d n c to really all city is written almost the policy is because they are the most exposed to the buy. and then also also he's writing, but again,
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these should need as a long term solution to the dismantlement of the occupation and the dismantlement of the colonization that he spent months over the occupied territory. because this is not in line with international law. 30 i just to, i want to come back to your point about the current government and it's fair to say, isn't it that the right way elements, they do nothing to reduce tensions like the ministers, a small church and but give it a sorry, can continue. i don't subscribe to anything they stand for or say, and there's a democracy in his role. unfortunately, they won the elections bought now recently we have because they started, they launched a motion to really move is all being democracy are the
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majority of these really people is uprising against me and i think it will reflect itself in the next election. but i really was a bit annoying by what day, the speaker from the you and said and, and frankly, we're talking about a big perspective. it's about time that the un starts to look into purchasing a problem and try to really solve it. because the u. n. has this own ra, which for better for this situation of the, of the about seeing that refugees instead of solving when settling it. and instead of encouraging them to join the members of the abraham. of course, we'll move forward with this. well, rather than being stuck in the past. ok, or is it, let's throw that back to front just where it's coming right to the end of the program. so front, just if you can wrap it up pretty quickly. and yes, and he,
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i read again and then you actually take responsibility for the time, which is it to be for you and yeah, been so for 75 years. but i can look at it without again in the occupation, because right now these are the main problem that needs to be resolved. i know it's a final word to you know, ending the occupation. that's the early solution. yes and jerusalem will remain the center of events because israel is deliberately provoking as long as there is this occupation that continues. and as long as palestinian refugees continue to be denied their right to return to their homes. and as long as you have people who are willing to dehumanize palestinians and attack the for demanding trade them out with that feeling shave or without facing consequence, it is unlikely that we will see any change in the dynamics. unfortunate or i don't
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that night we'll leave it said thanks very much indeed to our guests said to not a day or 2. you drove me and to francesca. open a thanks very much indeed. and thank you to you for watching the same program again at any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com. and for further discussion to schedule our facebook page, that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at a j inside story. for me, mc clark, the whole team here in tahoe. it's good bye for enough. ah, a
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