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this is inside story with that are welcome to inside story. i'm nick clark from lebanon to god's are in the occupied west bank. there's been a sharp increase in violence between palestinians and israelis. is res fears of a wider confrontation, questions around what this means for the already tense situation and garza, the israeli military says it carried out asked writes on hamas positions after intercept rockets fired from the region. there are no reports of casualties. israel is also carried out as strikes and parts of southern lebanon. the military says it's in response to rockets fired into israel on thursday. where does it say the missiles fell into an open area near a palestinian refugee camp, damaging homes and omelette?
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israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu promised a strong response. thank you, bye muma. when mike made it very clear that our enemy shouldn't testers, the internal struggle in israel won't stop us from responding wherever and whenever necessary. and how can we love god? oh, we're calling for calm and we will act against the extremists who resort to violence . as for the aggression against us on other fronts, we will strike our enemies and they will pay a price for any acts of aggression. our enemy will discover once again that in moments of truth, the citizens of israel stand united and unified and support the actions of the army and the security forces to defend our country and our citizens. in the occupied west bank to israeli women have been killed and another seriously injured in the shooting israeli authorities saved the attackers, targeted a vehicle in the west bank, local media reports. the victims are a mother and her 2 daughters. and i says, the attack is
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a natural response to the raids on alex this week with some, some lot palestine ambassador to the u. k. had this to say, this is the israeli play book for 75 years that has since its establishment a playbook that goes like this, or they provoke the palestinian people into provoking them. so the retaliate is run, has been provoking and provoking over the over the months the, the weeks the days and jeanine and nobliss, and hebrew and gaza. the located garza. and then of course, the peak of that for a vocation as is right, knows very well as alex saw, a sharif, a lot of sharif as happened, the last few nights during the holy month of ramadan. and this playbook goes like this because there's my lives on violence. it lives on the oppression on subjugation of an entire mission. ah. all right, let's bring in our panelists in ramallah were joined by neu de, who's
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a political analyst and form a spokeswoman for the palestinian national authority of eve in israel. is already rummy. who's the founder and president of the jerusalem press club in a former israeli government spokesman? and in tennis, francesca opened easy the united nation, special reporter on the occupied palestinian territories welcomes. welcome to all of you at. no, i'd like to start with you. first of all, there is a tragic familiarity to all of this. isn't that worship? is it a deeply sacred site beaten rocket attacks, reprisals, death. it is just a relentless cycle. and here we go again. well yeah, it's relentless and it's never ending because none of the factors changed and the one factor that remains quite constant is the fact that israel can get away with all of it. it's going to get away with the remaining an occupying power. it can get away with entering and rating and storming along some mosque and undermining the
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historic and legal status quo in jerusalem and locks us specifically without any consequence. and so it doesn't feel any incentive to change course to let go of the poet, people to let go of that occupation. and it had fed up the set the stage really for a very violent month. i remember from as far as the beginning of the year is where i was warning about madonna, the from a bon was somehow a month where old palestinians turned into air wolves when the fact is that all these israeli deliberate provocations and restrictions produce a very tense situation that can occur, as we've seen as spiraled into further violence and further vitality. unfortunately . nor is that your sense of where this is going, escalating violence. well, look, i have to remind the viewers, the reality under occupation is
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a violent every day. so when we talk about an escalation, we're talking about an uptick in the violence, the palestinians experience every day. i don't think that we are headed into an all out confrontation, but i do think that the situation remains, remains very, very precarious. and the more his real pushes, how often ends injury solomon across the occupied was bank and the more heat have a city and gaza feel the more likely, unfortunately, is the things might deteriorate even further reads or me and tell a vive, given the tensions why would israeli forces go in such a heavy handed way into the place of worship is the maximum ask on frankly, i have read some bit of criticism of the way our police handle it. but let's put it in perspective. i'm in israel. san 67 has kept their freedom of
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religion a alex, a mosque, and then i will all the problems and the walls and the violence. ah, this principle was kept really rigorously by, by all israeli government. ah, the problem is that there are forces and mainly from us and the time which try to use the sacred play separate to both as jews and muslims. ah, to spark a spark a another wave of violence in the region and, and in the violence you saw 2 days ago and asked her mosque. ah, really resulted from the fact that some 300 people went into the mosque armed with clubs and stones. and what have you,
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and i don't think most people go that way to a r center go to a mosque or to a church. so the police had to, ah, react. and the, as i said, the in the beginning, it record a bit, a heart harshly than necessary. but for that, that on the very points, isn't it that they went in more harshly than is necessary? and you know, we're in a situation that we're in, which is escalation and look, if the, if we're stopping again, then did the blame game who started walk a fine. all i'm saying is look at the, at the broad picture of the road here. is that every friday? ah, tens of thousands, it's not more. ha, muslim worship as we go to the temple mom and pray and go back. ah, we had a problem there. as i said, it resulted from
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a group of people who came there to start a trouble not to pray. and we had to handle it. i can already jump in that i don't want to get into a tit for tat about what happened. but really, i think sticking to facts is extremely important, is the israeli police have no business and no right being inside and has no business, restricting palestinians, and deciding who can enter the up some off and for how long. and the fact is there is a tradition ever to legit tradition. just stay at the locked up to stay over night . as i saw praying and interest introspection. and israel wanted to restrict that. i wanted to stop that band that. so the fact that some palestinian may have been, you know, apprehensive about
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a possible class with these really security forces with the israeli occupation, force of, sorry is not because they were looking for trouble is because they knew it was going to happen. because if there had been writing a suffer days, this was no surprise. this is the modus operandi of the occupation and to say that israel has respected religious freedom, isn't really, you know, and i want to stay respectful year and i don't want to hear off point, but that's just factually incorrect, and all international reports refute that was a restrict but you say the palestinian under 30 or 45 cannot go to jerusalem. you are restricting their right to freedom of religion when you decide who can answer and who cannot. when you back people from, from, from the old city, when you are not respecting the right of religion, you're not respecting that. i didn't know i just wanted to move on. and we haven't yet heard from for francesco,
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vanessa who's the united nation special realtor on the occupied policy and tortures . francesca. what's your sense of where we're at now? the overall situation? how serious is it? oh, i think it's very serious to let me. i don't want to, the other, those figures are saying, i think that the source recent attacks on a lot where reckless and beyond where you lean on the basic human rights of the palestinians, including their eyes to worship are and causing damage to the alex and mosque b, a school agreement to which israel is under obligation to respect and in the sense yes. ringback there's no reason for the police to go green, and so these attacks are either unprecedented or, you know, or isolated. i agree with these really speakers that the context, the mattress and the context. is that going abusive to be sure which all grades upside? what is for me to buy international by international law? so it's not, it is not something that started this week this year,
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or even in 2022 or in 2021. it's a reality where the students, in your confinement and confiscation all demolition discriminatory law enforcement mass incarceration and not or countless abuses in the nation. so the violence is only due to, to continue unless the redeemable illegality is a fixed. no, and i just want to, i'm picking a band because we have this thing already just very quickly. go back to that very quickly. and then until today, if, if for just that agrees with me about the conference that's brought in a bit further and say that we came up with the also the initiative which my financial corporation and the protestant us. i know so and now i'm victimizing for ever so this is where we are. ok let's i just want to get it back to
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what's happened in the last few days. i want to pick this up for i'm going to give you a b. yeah. come back in a 2nd europe opportunity to talk, but nor say thursday. we have the israeli military once again, attacking worshippers in alexa. and then we have dozens of rockets being fired in from lebanon into israeli territory. biggest escalation since 2006 for our audience . tell us about who fire those rockets and why from lebanon? well, we don't know fired the wrong. it's been no claim responsibility as far as i. i know israel accused huh. even though have off is not based in love and on. and it responded virus by bombarding the gaza strip, which is still considered an occupying power of it is
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a land that is besieged by israel with it since 2006. and it also bombarded southern at liberty and the, the idea that an escalation that the scenes of or talent can happen in jerusalem while palestinians look on wild people see that there is this intrenched culture of infinity of no concept. one is absurd. israel continues to insist that it can do whatever it wants in jerusalem, and it expects palestinians everywhere else to be quiet and mute. and that has proven folly. and francesca said, while this brutality continues, it is unrealistic to expect anyone not to respond. so we saw the escalation in southern lebanon. i don't think there is any verifiable way to, to know who fired the rockets and i don't think it really matters. because it is obvious from the way israel re a reacted that there is no nobody seeking an all out confrontation. the
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easiest target for israel is the palestinians that can target them and brutalize them without any consequence, without getting any regional actors involved. and so it has done that and it will continue to do that as long as it can get away with it. that's just the brutal, brutal, the reality of it for the really patient off low or not. all right, her just get for those who don't know the history, how does has will fit into the picture. and they may not be responsible for these rocket attacks, but they would have known about it, right? yeah, just one point to, to answer a question before or whatever the agreement, the agreement can not infringe the right of self determination of any people including the money is and now a previous violence against 820212022. and those dimensions with another situation
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is course, because they're being indiscriminate. attacks is launched by southern lebanon as well that i have just a 2006. i don't know the law was behind it, but i, i've done all that back subsidies since must be protected and there are principles of promotion. again, distinctions that are car, do you know any transgressive or international? but again, the context is a nation that was predictable and you still had to mean not to not to trigger it. and this is, this is a question that we should all reflect upon the symmetry of power between between 0 and minus p as groups can also. ringback for those will be considered. i mean, when you, when we talk about the discriminate against against a civilian c occupation,
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your commission is that the trigger duties violence and it's not going to be based on monday for security reasons. i'm sorry. i don't why. why would have translated into the creation of but over 270 colonies if you buy land and it costs for over 7720000 is way d, c, v. this is what we should be talking about because this is the great. they're all divided with the palestinians. very joint to come back to that. this is the trigger that inevitably the resistance is going to come if the palestinians treated in this way. well the difference between the way israel defense itself and the way the understanding is to there are defending their cause is that israel tries goes out of his way, not to his civilians and, and, and there i can tell you, i can tell you is
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a former air force colonel there and many times when the pilots or people who operate unmanned vehicles, they, they stop, they don't launch the messiah or something, because some uninvolved people are wrong. on the, on the contrary, what we saw today, ah, a, there was bank is somebody seen it's ah, killing brutally and intentionally ah, 2 sisters and a critically wounded and their mother and, and the other. i didn't hear anything from the other 2 speakers about this. so that's the difference. i mean, we try and i question to you, my question to you, you are a, was it was more about that the trigger for all this violence one way or the other. it's, it comes down to the root cause, which is the occupation. there are 3 a day that says the continuation of the occupation is
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a result of their continuous rejection ism of but his thing is to any peace settlement. and we came up with on my gun also codes and with, with, with davy, then 2000 and, and still they, they keep saying no and no. and this is what happens. i'm frankly, personally, i'm not for as settling that was been with jews. i would rather stay in his room proper, but when you have on the other side at wagner, which even doesn't take years for now, sir? ah, it's a problem. ok. nor respond to that if you will. i mean, where do i begin? but let me just remind the viewers, because there's been so much in the past few minutes that israel has killed thousands of palestinian civilians. it has destroyed entire residential buildings.
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it has targeted the press. it has down to an entire building, housing, elders, and a be in garza, it killed our colleague and friend, shirley, and i live in jeanine. so when we're talking about the israeli army, let's keep that in perspective. the a plethora of evidence about targeting civilians about why big entire families of the population registry are abundant and they can be found very easily. they are readily available to say that palestinians of reject, that freedom and self determination. and that's why israel must occupy them, is an old line. it seems that something that does doesn't get old, but it really, really is old and used. and it's all fun. nonsensical. the palestinian right to be free of israeli domination of israeli brutalization is absolute. and to excuse the commission of war crimes,
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which is what building settlements and transferring the occupiers population it is simply laughable. israel stood and its occupation if it were interested, but you have a government now that is committed to not just decimating the palestinian people but to treating the entirety of historic palestine of the land of israel to denying the existence of the palestinian people to denying their very own humanity, you have ministers who are responsible for controlling the lives of palestinian school. i've been convicted even in israel for being provocative hours for attacking israeli security for attacking palestinians. and they're inviting a lot of these programs and a lot of these attacks by his receptors against palestinian civilians and by israeli occupation authorities against palestinian civilians. this is not a chase of palestinian palestinians who want to remain occupied so they can remain
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violent. that's a very racist idea to present quite frankly, the nation. don't know me, but francesca, the bottom line is little going to chain without a massive international effort. francesca, what do you make of the response to the lack of provocations, the canadian prime minister, call you on israel to shift its approach from, from the violence seen at alex. but there was little else really would you call for more international condemnation and what more needs to be done for say, the united states? yes, it's clear that mere words, us condemnation. no one will work anywhere, particularly here where again, i want to stress for the viewers that the relationship is now as medical one between 2 to equal entities or countries. there is 11 people on one
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state buying another with a significant in the tree of forces and power in coming to coming into play is that we are seeing to the state of affairs and calling for negotiations between the buyer and you buy an international community should simply abide by international law. and so to not recognize the fact that the region actually wrongful, actually committed by israel and do not extend recognition of the, of the colonization of the occupied territory. and also ask for the station and reparations for the lot, but also in the, in the current reality, it's absolutely necessary to deploy a protective presence that guarantees the safety and security of all city britain, almost the palestinians because they are the most exposed to the buyer and also
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also he's righty, but again these should need as a long term solution to the dismantlement of the nation. and that is monumental to colonization that he spent months over the occupied territory because this is not in line with international law. 30, i just, i want to come back to your point about the current government and it's fair to say, isn't it that the right way elements, they do nothing to reduce tensions like the ministers, a small church and but give it a sorry, can continue. i don't subscribe to anything they stand for or say, and there's a democracy in his role. unfortunately, they won the elections. but now recently we have because they started, they launched a motion to really move is roles from being democracy. the
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majority of these really people is uprising against me, and i think it will reflect itself in the next selections. but i'm, but i really was a bit annoying by what is the speaker from the us. and then, and frankly, we're talking about a big perspective. it's about time that the un starts to look into purchasing a problem and try to a really solve it because the un has this own rock which for better in this situation off of there. but assume that refugees instead of solving when settling it. and instead of encouraging them to join the members of the abraham, of course, we'll move forward with as well rather than having stuck in the past. ok, or is it, let's throw that back to front just where this coming right to the end of the program. so from just if you could wrap it up pretty quickly. yes, and he,
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i in read again and then you actually take responsibility for the time, which is it to be for you as being so for 75 years. but i can look at it without again in the occupation, because right now these are the main problem that needs to be resolved. i know it's a final word to you know, ending the occupation. that's the early solution. yes and jerusalem will remain the epicenter of events on this point because israel is deliberately provoking as long as there is this occupation that continues. and as long as palestinian refugees continues to be denied their rights to return to their homes. and as long as you have people who are willing to dehumanize palestinians and attack them for demanding trade them with that feeling shave or without facing consequence, it is unlikely that we will see any change in the dynamics and fortunes. or i don't
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not know, we'll leave it said thanks very much indeed. 2 guests said to not a day draw me and to francesca open a thanks very much indeed, and thank you to for watching the program again at any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com. and for further discussion just gave you our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is add a j inside story. for me, nick clark, the whole team here, and so it's good bye for enough. i ah, with
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