africa cold front is cutting across you can definitely tell it's a cold front where the temperature in cape town, 17 degrees. we've got some whites and windy conditions along that south coast. and now you're in the now to see a later, ah, the arctic to home to the semi people and natural resources needed for combating climate change. it's an important part of the battery supply chain for europe. a don't think it is peoples. i have to say. humor, rice, s other p can, nations made wealthy from oil and gas, now balanced that green obligations with the rights of indigenous people. you can't choose solutions for us. it has no for future voices from the optic. the money talks, money winds on it, just either israel strikes dolls and lebanon after rated, they are like the most euro fit, the unrest will spread across the region. so what will it take to de escalate?

this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to inside story. i'm nick clark from lebanon to god's are in the occupied west bank. there's been a sharp increase in violence between palestinians and israelis. is res fears of a wider confrontation, questions around what this means for the already tense situation and garza, the israeli military says it carried out asked writes on hamas positions after intercepting rockets fired from the region. there are no reports of casualties. israel is also carried out as strike some parts of southern lebanon. the military says it's in response to rockets fired into israel on thursday. witnesses say the missile fell into an open area near a palestinian refugee camp, damaging homes and farmland. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu promised

a strong response to you by me, my, when i made it very clear that our enemy shouldn't testers, the internal struggle in israel won't stop us from responding wherever and whenever necessary. and we've got to, we're calling for com and we will act against the extremist who resort to violence . as for the aggression against us on other fronts, we will strike our enemies and they will pay a price for any acts of aggression. our enemy will discover once again that in moments of truth, the citizens of israel stand united and unified and support the actions of the army and the security forces to defend our country. and our citizens in the occupied west bank to his railey women have been killed and another seriously injured. and the shooting is ready. authority said the attack has targeted a vehicle in the west bank. local media reporting the victims are a mother and a 2 daughters. and i says, the attack is

a natural response to the rates on alex this week, some, some lot, palestine ambassador to the u. k. had this to say, this is the israeli play book for 75 years. that has since it's establishment a playbook that goes like this, or they provoke the palestinian people into provoking them. so the retaliate is one has been provoking and provoking over the over the months them, the weeks the days. and janine and nobliss and hebrew and garza, they're located garza. and then of course the peak of that provocation as well knows very well as alex saw, a sharif and hobby sharif as happened the last few nights during the holy month of ramadan. and this playbook goes like this because there's my lives on violence. it lives on the oppression on subjugation of an entire mission. ah. all right, let's bring in our panelists in ramallah were joined by neu de, who's

a political analyst and form a spokeswoman for the palestinian national authority. a ton of eve in israel is already rami who's the founder and president of the jerusalem press club, and a former israeli government spokesman. and in tennis, francesca opened easy the united nation, special reporter on the occupied palestinian territories welcomes. welcome to all of you at. no, i'd like to start with you. first of all, there is a, a tragic familiarity to all of this. isn't that worship? is it a deeply sacred site beaten rocket attacks, reprisals deaths? it is just a relentless cycle. and here we go again. well, yeah, it's relentless and it's never ending because none of the factors changed. and the one factor that remains quite constant is the fact that israel can get away with all of it. it's going to get away with the remaining an occupying power. it can get away with entering and rating and storming alex

a mosque and undermining the historic and legal status quo in jerusalem and locks us specifically. but without any consequence. and so it doesn't feel any incentive to change course to let go of the poet, people to let go of that occupation. and it had set up the set the stage really for a very violent month. i remember from as far as the beginning of the year is really was warning about madonna, the from a bon was somehow a month were old palestinians turned into air wools when the fact is that all these israeli deliberate provocations and restrictions produce a very tense situation. that can and as we've seen as spiraled into further violence and further brutality, unfortunately, nor is that your sense of where this is going, escalating violence. well, look, i have to remind the viewers,

the reality under occupation is violent every day. so when we talk about an escalation, we're talking about an uptick in the violence that palestinian experience every day . i don't think that we are headed into an all out confrontation, but i do think that the situation remains, remains very, very precarious. and the more is real pushes, how often in injuries filament across the occupied was bank and the more heat that will city and gaza feel the more likely unfortunate leg is the things might deteriorate even further. go to 0. me and tell a vive, given the tensions why would israeli forces go in such a heavy handed way into the place of worship? that is the maximum ask are frankly, i have read some bit of criticism of the way our police handle it. but let's put it in perspective,

i'm in israel says 67 has kept their freedom of religion, ethernet, alex, a mosque. and then we know the problems and the walls in violence, ah, this principle was kept really rigorously. but it, but all is really government. ah, the problem is that there are forces and mainly from us in the time which try to use this sacred play separate to both as jews and muslims. ah, to spark a spark a another wave of violence in the region and, and in the violence you saw 2 days ago and alaska mosque ah, really resulted from the fact that some 300 people went into the mosque armed with clubs and stones and what have you and i don't think most people go that

way to a our center go to a mosque or to a church. so the police had to, ah, react. and as i said in the beginning, it reacted a bit, a heart harshly than necessary. but for that, that on the very points, isn't it that they went in more harshly than is necessary? and you know, we're in a situation that we're in, which is escalation and look, if the, if we're stopping again, then the blame game who started walk a fine. all i'm saying is look at the, at the broad road currently. is that every friday? ah, there is of town, if not more. ah muslim worship as i go to the temple mom and pray and go back. ah, we had a problem there. as i said,

it resulted from a group of people who came there to start a trouble not to pray. and we had to handle the hang of it. i could nor did jumping that. i don't want to get into a tit for tat about what happened. but really, i think sticking to facts is extremely important, is the israeli police has no business and no right being inside and has no business, restricting palestinians, and deciding who can enter the sum of and for how long. and the fact is, there is a tradition, every religious tradition, just stay at the locked up to stay over night at the saw praying and interest in introspection. and israel wanted to restrict that. i wanted to stop that band that. so the fact that some palestinians may have been, you know,

apprehensive about a possible class with these really security forces with the israeli occupation, force of, sorry is not because they were looking for trouble is because they knew it was going to happen. because if they had been writing an offer days, this was no surprise, this is the modus operandi of the occupation and to say that israel has respected religious freedom, isn't really, you know, and i want to stay respectful year and i don't want to hear off point but that's just factually incorrect and all international reports refute that way. they restrict when you say the palestinian under 30 or 45 cannot go to jerusalem. you are restricting their right to freedom of religion when you decide who can answer and who cannot. when you band people from the front from the old city, then you are not respecting the right of religion. you're not respecting that. i didn't move on and we haven't yet heard from for francesco,

vanessa who's the united nation special realtor on the occupied policy in touch with francesca. what's your sense of where we're at now? the overall situation? how serious is that? oh, i think it's very serious. let me ask, i don't want to, the other figures are saying, i think that the students recent attacks on a lot where reckless and beyond where you lean on the basic human rights of the palestinians, including their eyes to worship and they are and causing damage to the alex and mosque, the start of school agreement to which israel is under obligation to respect and in the sense yes. ringback there's no reason for the police to go green, and so these attacks are either unprecedented or, you know, or isolated. i agree with these really speakers that the context, the mattress and the context is that of an abusive occupation which operates outside what is for me to buy international by international law. so it's not that

it is not something that started this week this year, or even in 2022 or in 2021. and it's a reality where the students in your confinement and confiscation, demolition discriminatory law enforcement mass incarceration and not are countless abuses at a meeting. he's a new mediation, so the violence is only due to to continue unless the redeemable economy is fixed now. and i just want to, i'm picking a band because we have the same or it is very quickly go back to that very quickly and then okay, okay. if, if for just that agrees with me about the conference, that's broad, it's a bit further and saying that we came up with the austin log initiative, which my financial corporation and the soon as i know, so and now i meg victimizing. so for,

so this is where we are. ok let's, i just want to get it back to what's happening the last few days. i want to pick this up for i am going to come in on you to come back in. it's. yeah, come back in a 2nd, you'll have a facility to talk, but nor say thursday, we have the israeli military once again attacking worshippers in. alack, sir. and then we have dozens of rockets being fired in from lebanon into israeli territory. biggest escalation since 2006 for our audience. tell us about who fire those rockets and why from lebanon? well, we don't know fired the wrong. it's been no claim responsibility as far as i. i know israel accused huh. even though it is not based in lubbock on and it responded by by bombarding the gaza strip, which is still considered an occupying power of it as

a land that is besieged by israel's since 2006. and it also bombarded southern at liberty and the, the idea that an escalation that the scenes of brutality can happen in jerusalem. while palestinians look on wild people see that there is this intrenched culture of infinity of no concept. one is absurd. israel continues to insist that it can do whatever it wants in jerusalem, and it expects palestinians everywhere else to be quiet and mute. and that has proven folly. and as francesca said, while this brutality continues, it is unrealistic to expect philistines not to respond. so we saw the escalation in southern lebanon. i don't think there is any verifiable way to, to know who fired the rockets and i don't think it really matters. because it is obvious from the way israel re reacted that there is no nobody seeking an all out

confrontation. the easiest target for israel is the palestinian that can target them and brutalize them without any consequence, without getting any regional actors involved. and so it has done that and it will continue to do that as long as it can get away with it. that's just the brutal, brutal, the reality of it for the really patient offload or not. all right, her just get for those he don't know the history. how does has will fit into the picture. and they may not be responsible for these rocket attacks, but they would have known about it, right? yeah, just one point to, to answer a question before, what are the agreements? the agreements cannot infringe the right of self determination of any people, including the audience. and now, a previous violence against a doesn't what you want to,

doesn't want to do those dimensions with another situation. is course, because there are being indiscriminate attacks is launched by southern lebanon as well that i have just a 2006. i don't know the law was behind it, but i don't own that tax subsidies since must be protected. and there are principles of the shenanigan distinctions that are car. do you know any transgressive or international. but again, the context is a nation that was predictable. and you had to mean not to not to trigger it. and this is, this is a question that we should all reflect upon the symmetry of our between between 0 and honesty as groups can also, i should also be considered. i mean, when you, when we talk about the discriminate against against the civilian c occupation,

your commission is the trigger duties violence and it's not going to be based on monday for security reasons. i'm sorry, i don't why. why would have translated into the creation of but over 270 colonies in you could buy land and it was for over 7700. $20000.00 is re disobedience. this is what we should be talking about because this is the great. they're all divided with the palestinians. very joint to come back to that. this is the trigger that inevitably the resistance is going to come if the palestinians are treated in this way. well the difference between the way initial defends herself and the way that continues to they are defending their cause is that israel tries goes out of his way, not to his civilians. and, and, and there i can tell you, i can tell you is

a former air force colonel there. and many times when the pilots or people who operate unmanned vehicles, they, they stop, they don't launch the messiah or something, because some uninvolved people are wrong. on the, on the contrary, what we saw today, ah, a there was bank. is somebody siemens ah killing brutally and intentionally ah, 2 sisters and a critically wounded and their mother and on the other. i didn't hear anything from the other 2 speakers about this. so that's the difference. i mean, we tried and i question to you, my question to you, you are a, was more about that the trigger for all this violence one way or the other. it comes down to the root cause, which is the occupation that 3 a day that says the continuation of the occupation is

a result of their continuous rejection ism of but his thing is to any peace settlement and we came up with my gun also cause and waved with we can they leave in 2000 and and still they, they keep saying no and no. and this is what happens. i'm frankly, personally, i'm not for as settling that was been good jews. i would rather stay in his room proper. but when you have on the other side at wagner, which i even doesn't think he has for a now sir, ah, it's a problem. ok. nor respond to that if you will. i mean, where do i begin? but let me just remind the viewers, because there's been so much better in the past few minutes, that israel has killed thousands of palestinian civilians. it has destroyed entire

residential buildings. it has targeted the press. it has down to an entire building, housing, elders, and a be in garza, it killed our colleague and friend city and a lady in jeanine. so when we're talking about the israeli army, let's keep that in perspective. the a plethora of evidence about targeting civilians about wiping entire families of the population registry are abundant and they can be found very easily. they are readily available to say that palestinians of reject, that freedom and self determination. and that's why israel must occupy them is an old line. it seems that some think that it does, it doesn't get old, but it really, really is old and used. and it's all fun. nonsensical. the palestinian right to be free of israeli domination of israeli brutalization is absolute and to excuse the commission of war crimes,

which is what building settlements and transferring the occupiers population. it is simply laughable. israel stood and its occupation if it were interested, but you have a government now that is committed to not just decimating the palestinian people but to treating the entirety of historic palestine of the land of israel to denying the existence of the palestinian people denying their very own humanity, you have ministers who are responsible for controlling the lives of palestinian school. i've been convicted even in israel for being provocative words for attacking israeli security for attacking palestinians. and they're inviting a lot of these programs and a lot of these attacks by his receptors against palestinian civilians and by israeli occupation authorities against palestinian civilians. this is not a case of palestinian palestinians who want to remain occupied so they can remain

violent. that's a very racist idea to present quite frankly, at the you know, maybe trying to get me. the bottom line is little going to chain without a massive international effort. francesca, what do you make of the response to the lack of provocations, the canadian prime minister, call you on israel to shift its approach from, from the violence seen it? i like so, but there was little else really would you call for more international condemnation? and what more needs to be done for say, the united states? yes, it's clear that mere words of condemnation, the not work for the work anywhere, particularly here where again, i want to stress for the viewers that the relationship is not as medical, one between 2 to equal entities or countries. there is 11 people on

one state buying another with a significant in the tree of forces and power in coming to coming into play is that we are seeing to the state of affairs and calling for negotiation between the buyer and you buy the international community should simply by international law, and so to not recognize the fact that the region actually wrongful, actually committed by israel and do not extend recognition of the, of the colonization of the okay, i territory. and also ask for the station and reparations for the lot, but also in the, in the current reality, it's absolutely necessary to deploy a protective presence that guarantees the d. n. c. you really all city is britney. almost the policy is because they are the most exposed to the buy and then also

also he's righty. but again, these should need as a long term solution to the dismantlement of the nation. and that is monumental. the colonization that he spent months over the occupied territory because this is not in line with international law. 30 i just to, i want to come back to your point about the current government and it's fair to say, isn't it that the right wing elements? they do nothing to reduce tensions like the ministers, a small church and been given a sorry, can continue. i don't subscribe to anything they stand for or say, and there's a democracy in his role. unfortunately, they won the elections bought now recently we have because they started, they launched a motion to really move his role on being democracy. the

majority of these really people is uprising against me, and i think it will reflect itself in the next election. but, but i really was a bit annoying by what day? the speaker from the you and said, and frankly we're talking about a big perspective. it's about time that the un starts to look into purchasing a problem and try to a really solve it. because the u. n. has this own rock which for better for this situation off of there. but assume that refugees instead of solving when settling it. and instead of encouraging them to join the members of the abraham, of course, we'll move forward with this. well rather than being stuck in the past. ok. or is it through that back to front just where it's coming right to the end of the program. so front, just if you can wrap it up pretty quickly. yes, and he,

i in read again and then you and should take responsibility for the time, which is it to be for you and has been so for 75 years. but i can look at and without again in the occupation, because right now these are the main problem that needs to be resolved. i know it's a final word to you know, ending the occupation. that's the early solution. yes and jerusalem will remain the center of events because israel is deliberately provoking as long as there is this occupation that continues. and as long as palestinian refugees continue to be denied their right to return to their homes. and as long as you have people who are willing to dehumanize palestinians and attack the for demanding trade them out with that feeling shave or without facing consequence, it is unlikely that we will see any change in the dynamics. unfortunate. all right,

on that night we'll leave, it said thanks very much indeed to our guests said to not a day or 2. you draw me and to francesca, open a thanks very much indeed, and thank you to for watching the program again at any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com. and for further discussion to schedule our facebook page, that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at a j inside story. for me, mc clark, the whole team here in tahoe. it's good bye for now. aah! along with

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