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not very many, but pakistan joins in and to some degree that says off. gaston had that's 10 degrees above average. now this will cool down. however, that's not the fight for our, the pakistan or no lindy, we're attempt, she's right. she got to slowly rise to exceed 40. ah, it's the holy month of ramadan. new ramadan, keystone with the it's look at changing the she to she says to, to 60, from new zealand to iceland. we explore how muslim minorities hope with the shortest and longest fasting. alice on the planet was actually quite difficult. i did. she play 3 pizza water on sundays, and i will have to add those based. why fast after amada at amada, on north and south on al jazeera, ah violent protests in ethiopia has, i'm her region plans to integrate local military forces into the national army and
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police have spots a backlash. the government says the change is essential for national unity. so why is there such opposition and doesn't risk instability. this is inside store. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm tom mcrae. protest set been held for days in i'm horror against government plans to merge the regions forces into the national army and police. if the obeah has yet to recover from the war and it's to cry region that ended last year, thousands of people were killed in a conflict marked by wide spread human rights abuses. forces from m horror fought against to grind rebels alongside the national army. but since that 2 year war ended leaders in m hora have accused the government of ignoring violence against
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ethnic and horrors in the neighboring roy. me a region they believe. if m horace forces are absorbed into the national army, their communities will be left open to more attacks. we'll be talking to our guests about the wider implications of all of this in just a moment. but 1st, fenton monahan, reports on days of violence and protests against the government's plans planned by european government to unify the national military of police, sparked a major backlash. protest have been held in the upper region. many people want to ensure forces their stay under local control. outbreaks have also been reported and restrictions imposed in some cities, york and government that insists there won't be any kind of compromise in terms of ending the spatial courses in which para regents as well as other we just have benefited from in the past. they've said it's against the constitution of the country and they're going to fight them and they're going to put them under the top
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and forces the national force there. busy doesn't seem to be any compromise. the government plan will apply to regions that use their own languages and have their own fighting and law enforcement groups. but many enough hora, accused the federal government of ignoring attacks on ethnic horrors living in the neighboring romeo region. they say losing local control forces will leave them unable to protect themselves. prime minister abi ottoman says he's determined to see the plan through and will take what he calls appropriate law enforcement measures to make it happen. tensions are growing and many fear confrontation may prove difficult to avoid that. mullin al jazeera. ah. okay, let's bring in our guests now in addis ababa is a camel ha, she murmured. member of the ethiopian parliament in harrisonburg virginia is a ton of tanka assistant professor of african history. at james madison university
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. he specializes in political history of ethiopia and africa, also and addis ababa is des celine cheney senior member of the national movement of m. how are the main opposition party in the theo, p and parliament a welcome to all of you. thank you very much for being on inside story today. desolate if i can begin with you, can you just explain how large these protests have come? and i guess the anger that's fuel them to this point. thank you very much for having me. so this, this we are, are very large and it almost every one of our agents are. so people are the monday for the federal government to leave us a special for us now because currently is on the region is faced with a lot of previous security readers,
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especially for people if you got it wrong, because a lot of the past 3 years, the everywhere so you know, so you know, i gracious and wow, that was connected by a from on the phone. so unless that is r disarmament and it's the phone just didn't realize it. great. this is a curity, reese and is it for the audience? that's why people are putting that issue to the money because it's untimely. and because there was no appropriate consultations and discussions with us. ok come out when the prime minister made this announcement. was there any expectation that there would be a backlash?
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like we've seen over the last 5 or 6 days. thanks. i think in terms of expectation. so whenever you lunch any slime now, there is a problem that might have been you know that there's been a lot of negative movie that jelly didn't want to fall or did you want to do anyway? you know, all it can be listed. any plan that comes that is going to change is the key to have. well, if you go outside there was a creature that people to come get her alone. but to be honest, don't distribution. i would say this was a longer awaken solution when i read the critic for while we were shocked on and it was that whatever
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class you company really just have one trunk, you know, national army. good. you great. i'm really under one, you know, channels come on. so i would say that is a lot of the vision because it was a demand for something you do for the sake of the people that mission. but i would think that, that people need to do the very noble idea. i think the very strong one submission, i think will be more positive position, but i didn't even think it might happen to be that differently. okay, atlanta, if i can bring you in here, how, how worried are you? how concerned are you about what you've seen over the last week or so? you know, you've got both sides at the moment, refusing really to take it back with staple compromise in any way. so what happens
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from here? do you think it's worrisome? but it's important to look into some of the merits on both sides 1st because this conflict goes much beyond what the both sides want to say in public, at least at this time. when at this about when to war was to gray, at least under the leadership of a b, m a bit at region and correlation, which even goes beyond the border of india. i'm our forces the regional spatial unit and find no way to key allies of these are in invading or fighting against a retreat. is an answer ok. now when i decided i wanted to make peace was to dry. at least there was some conversations about our forces, went a deeply angry and the amount of forces particularly is a nationalist movement rising and our region seems recent years
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are moving very fast and claiming a number of a number of progress. but the problem is, the claim coming from a model, nationalism, and that region seems to be clear in many ways, particularly over the last several months, as there has been voices that puts claim on power in a d r. now at this hour, but it said claim design, i'm our forces one this to over. so it's using using some violent method and for this it closed main highways leading to are these are claiming that amount of forces are sending forces on the ground to overthrow it in these are if you look at this claims, the claim of these are on the other hand is that it went to restore peace in the
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country. it wants to disarm every region for but the main intention behind disarming the regional forces, whether these are, are many other regions is to consolidate the am x power in these are just a little, not for you and here. what's your response to that? yeah, i see can i say the, i have no clear the members that are people is clearly defined on so in principle we support a national unified defense process and a national you find out of me, we find the c, i pre cut and i can but to give back what i and i yeah for that to be, i mean we should all be monday. we thought we should have a security gun. we should have a security guard key so that the course would not ask for the foreground
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because as part of the $320.00 agreement, it was a fight that was, will be the summer and be more or less. but there is no community does not decide not to please don't. and there is no any you will be nice if you saw in that they sort of z the saw me and this month easy. i'm had a station is like leading out people to resolve any security arrangement or security mechanism i get is that the grounds? but also we've been very good reasons. i'm had a region. for example i you was that looks at all of that. i was not good at least 10 pounds 50 pounds, and the security apparatus was not active, but he's funding for the st. the saw of the money is clear. it's not a government, but you'd be able to get a security arrangement that can cause people. i mean,
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the main argument seems to be that it will leave the region exposed to attacks by neighboring areas and including the t p l. if it wouldn't it more unified a national army actually be able to better defend against those attacks. you know, over the past years, ah, for example, during the past 25 years, the, he just got national defense part was dominated by the minority of leadership was limited by the t b. during that time. that you can get national defense for ha, gave out even if it take you to the, for our people by now the all leg proschetti to patty is on. so let me get, get national defense forces. so we believe that unless the national security structures are fairly re present that and properly for mac, it's very difficult for us too because you've got them as
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a national defense for. so in the, at least we need to regain gal had a station for that as you get the defendant, are people from that to be an aggravation that also you can effectively i kept the law. and one of the reasons i mean, okay, kamala, want to bring you back in here. you know, i guess one of the arguments is that the are of horror forces of actually be more effective against the t p l. if, as rather than the government forces that have been, that i've been fighting alongside, what's your response to that that, that you know, that the government forces have been rather an effective over the last couple of years and, and fighting the tpl if thank you. so my job, but i think because you know like say something to the ship and that came out from by the other one is that don't meet the great national do before we commit the body. and now that he's also
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not the michel model, and the 3rd is going to be national army is by i'm was when you click here and this would be the creation of special forces. it should be i. so let's not make that a law and whatever it is, i don't need all my nephew nation. i'm sure that that i'm to give them a group of when i did that next, move the very look at the golf law because oddly, and there has been a lot of fun because he doesn't win any part. people get the nation like all more or model what they're going to be like like the,
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the thought of the way of having the nation. a lot of you, whether they can't be the confusion, it can be again a to be i guess that's the way that we should up and i look at the salad. worry of that because they will be will be sent to you. and he was saying he has a special forces if they want to gain the national sense, well, let them dry forget what the conclusion you have before even now. and that additional daughter did number of out of me that it wasn't all it could vanish like now does one now to be that we didn't do much of that and then i don't know outside of it. so you see the very good and when it comes to the last question, i'll of them really. yeah, they did
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a lot. but let's not forget that people happen to come up. and it was all they took the initiative jane together to make sure that to be level gross, back to, to, to, to the, to the fact that they did and at the the what ended. so i don't think it's only been issues been watching out for the some of the company. i get a pay less to say that it was only, you know, that we, i've met while, you know, in the house that you know, in the middle of what, ok, i want to bring a ton of back in the prime minister. i'm a is insisted they won't be any type of compromise here. basically saying he will take appropriate law enforcement measures and valid to precede in court. even if a price had to be paid. do you think that if you, if you're at this point in time,
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as you know, the governance prepared to turn this into a explode, the sent her into a larger 5 since he came to office in a pre 2018 prime minister obese or the, i'm at dr. ease largely about centralization and centralization of power, not within his party but in his own times. and this, this trend is going from time to time throughout history since the empire was since it was founded as an empire by the close of the $900.00 century. despite the regime changes, this issue of centralization lingers on any end. it's the larger part of problems in that concert. so attentive are the ultimate to centralized power by under putting region for forces. put him in confrontation was too great and laid to image a war. it put him in confrontation with oral forces. and now romeo is
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in another round of war, it put him, was a number of regional forces including was gun below. and british i'm going was and now that is for, i'm higher. so the price that i b, m a claims. again, that's no question drugs as a country into another round of violence, but the point must be made here. even if i be, i am in the government is not committed to disarm other regional units. there are enough reasons in place to disarm our forces. i'm had our forces have been accused by humanitarian organizations for atrocities they committed and to drive in romeo in banish angle and, and was in their own region. the silent and there previously mentioned about the problem in the city of at i, you and the main problem in the city of us are, you were caused by an armored regional forces including the spatial unit. and our
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regional forces were accused alliance. again, a lot of me and body shop was and it was a little in just a very quickly and then i'll bring you in on out on the 2nd line, tyler, just finish that point and then we'll move on. yeah. let me finish this point. so there isn't a united states and one report on human human rights are called out. i'm out, our regional forces for atrocities a comedic. so from the perspective of these alba and international organizations, there are enough reasons to disarm our regional units and the one dangerous points that usually comes with claims for lamar nationalism like both because this are putting downs it now is, is that issue of auto domination was in the us government, if you count the federal key federal offices today in a dis, alba, most of them are already taken over by officials. both of these are me
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a ok, but just a little in a give you a chance to, to respond to this. now this government i in the or a more inmate despite the fact that the prime minister and his colleagues never claimed to be or more both ideologically, and by or region. they always claims that they work for oral, but a model nationalist is always make to and i want to make the, at this about government in the image of or more because they want to mobilize. it forces there, there are people against the central government in a dc of and this is a big dangerous because the is these a conflict again as or against or say come out again or on the didn't just president. ok. i wanna thank you and i want to let distilling and respond to, to what you've been saying. number one that i was preventing a, me and the senate,
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a horrible speech and do i'm hungry. so that down i you for 10 down this number to read that these all more do mission. it is clear getting that if this is going to be nation 90 percent of the major, he probably for this reason they got national defense force was over by the us was almost out of green, right. not used to really the mistakes out today by the end by now they started from throwing ziki was all they just got might not be things worse. but let me come to the most important point. the most important point for us is on the, on how to do house is security so that people is demanding and key the kind of security of the problem, the only very a b,
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b we don't mind about the dismantling of the existence. so as of this patient for that, but the people, the i'm out of special forces has been in the past and have some of the key thing here to the fact i also have i have to mention the fact that a special forces and other special forces are going to be usually unknown because if you see that you have gotten constitution article $52.00. so it clearly stipulate this, the fact that the region now government are the power to organize your own police forces not going to be able to provide security for, for the readers. so i'm a regional a yamaha station close to. so if you see legacy is
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a lot in the future, it's lego. but also the most important rationale is that unless, unless that you feel if you start with and i'm a new product, it's very difficult for people to this. but that's people thinking, yes, okay, come all i want to talk to bring you back and get, i mean, how much instability are you willing to risk over this issue? i mean, how much more violence in the country going to put up with? how much more can it take, how much more pressure can the prime minister be under before he has to, i guess come to a negotiating table. and the more, i mean, that's a party meeting. so these people, national park will have all missions in the shop and we have to model is the only party. so if you lead by a parking lot by some nation, and in fact,
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the problem wasn't a part of the national month. he did great one of the few that was an issue or not even i think part of the elected by the name of what it would give them a live by a and i don't need to say that over the emission and call it telling me that number, so office, i'll be happy if you get this number that made by a little more that we have the but the big cookies and also the, i mean they go to bed you, if you see them all want me to be quite follow. i don't see any don't come to the question of how water is if they were ready. what about us? i hope that i can only tell how what the ready for my dissenting vision. i come up
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with. he said to give a month, but i wouldn't. i would say that we give them a spot are if we need because you're very mobile. yeah. it's something but all the did you know about it? does that mean that i'll call john? we have everybody will be out. we have but they never, they people out because of the medical is let's special and people and i'm. 6 what are you not only just misled? what are the, what are the why do i don't understand what they don't need to do? i think i think they're going to give a lot of fun discuss it. because a lot of how do you, because i did that, but i'm not, i'm obviously that's kind of why we know that they do work. but that's, that's really funny. especially with only go to a minute or so left
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a ton. i wanna finish with you. how is this going to be resolved? are things going to get worse from here? thank you. 11 important point is that role of at this hour, again, the award integrated like i said earlier, was closed because of interest. this in, at these are particularly the interests of prime minister abby. i am at am sock, unless there is a constituent means in place to to limit the power of the prime minister and his growing power from time to time. or even there is, if there is a constituent means to get him out of office. i don't think this problem is going to be resolved immediately because since he came to the office, he was opening. he has been opening conflict after conflict in order to consolidate his power, like the salad. and it is now trying to sate, you know,
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a dangerous precedent of making this conflict like are against amara, the prime minister himself is make, trying to make those conflict. something of our own more again is amara which is a very dangerous path. but let me say one point before before i finish, like a piece of clay from our national is this about to grad to grow has already been disarmed, then he's not trait of whatsoever for i'm our region from to african union is already satisfied about disarmament and that's a great region. listen to i'm a nationalist, especially you guys hear the salad and whatever he talks is not about american. it's about territorial claimants, a guy, territorial claim, and but sean territorial going on here. and this is a major fuel in their own going conflict entity. ok, and that is why it is so problematic to resolve it immediately. but this problem
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a new wrong in the country and we're just going to have to read out now. so i want to desolate and so one final word, what would you, how would you like to finish this? the funding is that the federal government should, at least for the decision to dismantle the amount for this. and there should be consultation with yamaha because remember, we had people and we, we saw a region one example, you know, marty people even that took right the neighboring body shop was what kind of got aunty can you give for neighboring people being invaded by. 9 i'm out our forces daily on daily basis just today. yeah, i know a lot of people
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suffering from invasion violence of our forces that territorial go claims of i've got from and to what kind of got on the would you give to people and of traits from other groups then i region and the region they're out of town, we're going to have to leave it there. i'm really sorry we have we've run out of time and we really appreciate all of your input. thank you for all 3 of our guests camel. how she, mahmud atlanta didn't care and distilling, chaney. thank you very much for being on inside story today and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com. forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is add a j inside story for me. tell mccrae and the whole team here, bye for now. ah
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