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ah, i'm sammy's a dan. this is al jazeera alive from dell hall. so coming up the warring sides in the conflicts in yemen, release more detainees, as of a major prisoner exchange. ah, japan's prime minister escapes unharmed austin an explosion as the campaign event. police arrest the suspect and a 21 year old national guardsman is charged the u. s. federal court for leaking, highly classified military documents. ah, we begin with some breaking news coming in from sudan where we're getting reports of heavy gum file across the campus. so tensions have been rising in recent days
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between the army and the rapid support forces, paramilitary group has go straight to him. morgan joins us live from there. so tell us, what's the situation right now with the fighting? well we've just received statement from the rapid support forces detailing, verified over 30, in which they said that and so by camp where there is a military camp, both for the rapid support forces and the and the city needs forces. now the rapid support 4th said that they were attacked by the putting these forces in the early hours of april 15th, which is today. we're hearing gunfire in the capital here, boom, near the vicinity of the presidential palace in the northern parts of the capital as well. as in so, but where they thought that and other parts of the capital as well. so lots of confusion here with regards to what is happening at the moment. people around the
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country around the capital can hear the gunshots. they are terrified. right. lots of people have been i have not been able to access public transport, so they've been walking on foot, trying to act to get the safety of their homes. because of the confusion. i don't know if you can hear, but there is filled sound of gunfire from the vicinity of the presidential palace. we're not far from right now. lots of confusion against me with regards to what's happening. but what people do know is that the tension between the rapid support for the and the military has reached its height with no direct confrontation between the 2 sides. not here in the capital 2 only, but also merits where the tension started. and just to bring together all these little reports which are coming in, it sounds like fighting is happening in many parts of the country right on my mind or a different areas. yes, and that was the concern of the political parties of the trilateral,
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a tripartite mechanism that has been mediating. and the talks between the army and the pal and the political parties in the concern for many people really as including the international community, is that both sides are armed. both sides have troops stationed in various parts of the country in various parts of the capital. and should it escalate between them? yep, you can hear that. that's the sound of the gunfire just around us here in the capital . hot, so not far from the presidential palace. and that's the concern. a sammy, the fact that they have troops in various parts of the country in various parts of the capital em including cities where their civilian lives are this or where, where their residential areas is. so there are concerns that there will be sufficient civil in casualties and does battle between the rapid support forces and the city, nissan, environmental. all right, and the hipaa just to confirm what you mentioned a moment ago, you mentioned that the r s f a put out the statement saying they're being attacked by the army. is that something we can confirm though? have we hadn't a statement from the army, for example of our what's happening?
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no, we can't. we are yet to hear from the army with regards to what's happening though, the army has not put out his statement. wait, we've tried to reach the army for comments. say that has been very difficult at the moment to get through to them. but what we do know is that there are indeed direct clashes between the army and the rapid support forces, regardless of who started it. and regardless of, of who is responsible for the 1st shot, the fact remains right now, sammy is that there is direct military confrontation between the rapid support forces and the army to forces again, with troops and forces spread around the capitol around the country, including residential neighborhoods and so they are concerns that they will be civilians caught in the crossfire between the 2 sides. and while you're talking, bear with me for a 2nd here because we got lines dropping those sudanese carmel to rapid support forces say they're, they've communicated with international, local mediators. and informed them of the situation or cause remains to be seen what they can do at this point. but you also mentioned fighting around the
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presidential palace. is that right? however, that is about we can hear the gunfire. sam, you where we are right now. we can't exactly see what is happening, but from the vicinity of the presidential palace. we can hear the gunshots. we can hear this gunshots from the northern part of the capital, her tomb, and from the twin city of the ego of her tomb on demand as well, which is behind us in part in other parts of harpoon such as of yet. and so, but we've spoken to residents there who say they can hear the gunfire and they also say they can see the smoke that as a result of these classes. many of them say that they had to hide within their homes because of these sudden eruption of fighting between the 2 sides or streets. there are a lot of confusions where people have started to go outside to saw their day on this saturday. now most of them have returned to their homes, seeking safety until we figure out exactly how bad is it,
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and where are the areas most affected, whether in the capital or other cities as well. oh, and as so as rona, this is all obviously a breaking news story, developing story. so bear with us here because i'm getting all kinds of lines coming in here. there's a statement by the rapid support forces group saying that things kicked off to day when basically the units of the army trying to enter a position held by the rapid support forces in very camp in. so i'm just translating it from from arabic here. so bear with me, so they're saying that that's how things kicked off. but tell us little bit about the importance of saba. well, silva is a military camp. it is there. it's in the outskirts of because of the 2 of cap of the city her tomb. there are military presence both for the year. i rapid support forces and the army military wise though it doesn't hold more significant than,
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let's say, medically right now where, where there is also fighting between the 2 sides and where the tension started. the fact is that the tension between the 2 sides, any small altercation between the $25.00 would have led to what we are seeing right now. and i don't know if you can hear me, but there is heavy sound of gunfire around where i am right now. again, and this is the vicinity of the presidential palace. we do know that the army did blood, the roads leading to the presidential palace just about 15 to 20 minutes ago. but there are, there have been the presence of rapid support forces inside the presidential palace as well. because again, behalf of the rapid support for this is the deputy head of the sovereignty council that the governing body here and put down while the head of the army general i've been for the hon. is the head of the sovereign to council. so lots of confusion here with regard to what's happening right now. what we do know again is that there is fighting between the 2 sides in so, but in murder we where tension has been added, speak for the past 24 to 48 hours. and despite the fact that we per statements from
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both a rather from mediator saying that both the head of the army and the head of the rapid support for the already to be escalate the situation just hours after hearing from me data is that the army that the head of the army is ready to de escalate. we here in gunfire around the capital and better we, maybe it's a good time as well. hibbitts put this into context. this tension started over the question of integrating the recess into the army, right? that's if you're looking for a specific point to to, to, to, to mark the tension. but in reality, extensions have been ongoing between the rapid support for the army way longer than bad. sammy, we've seen months after the military takeover in october 2021. when we heard from behead of the rapid support for describing that military takeover as a mistake, which led to dental further political turmoil. while the head of the army, who's the head of the sovereignty council said that this was a necessity of that military takeover with a necessity. because today was in
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a political term all and was on the edge asper his worries. so obviously, months after that, people were the 2 were at odds on how to run the post that military take over a period. and then came the issue of negotiating with the political parties. both had different views with how to negotiate with the parties, how to, to, to come to an agreement for a new transitional government. and now with this talk, so between the political parties and the military became the issue of the security sector reform. the military wanted the rest of to fall under its command while the iris f wanted to fall under the command of civilian government. then there's the issue of integration. how long that should take, and the racks and, and files of the officers within the recess and how they should be assessed and reintegrated into the army. so all of this just simply added to the already existing tension between the rapid support force of the army and which it looks like today. on saturday, it has reached a peak with gunfire between the 2 side and to tell par international audience. so
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understand the difference between the army and this r s. f rapid support forces and how they lead by 2 figures who independent of each other to some degree. well, you have to look at the origin of the rapid support 4th of their support. 4th, it was officially established in 2013, but they've been fighting into what can we get up there for wait, before that 10 years before that in fact, when they were fighting against urban forces alongside the army. now in 2013, they became on official a fighting group. i, again, i don't know if you can hear how long this is obviously would then abby, this is within the presidential palace that we can definitely confirmed because of the vicinity and how loud it is. and it looks like a heavy, heavy gunfire between the 2 sides. but then again, let's return to the rapid support forces that they have been established officially in 2015 to be under the head of the intelligence bag then, but around 2018, they were placed under the commander of the armed forces,
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who was president machine. back then in 2018 in 2019, when he was deposed to head of the rapids support forces became the deputy head of the sovereignty council. while the commander in chief of the army became the commander of the sovereignty council. so that, that's, that's the difference between the 2 sides of the hours. that was a paramilitary group that was set up by 2 fights at b. insurgency in western region of dar for, they also played a role in attacking the states and the pro democracy in front of the army headquarters in 2019. and the military has been around, obviously since independence offered anson institution that has been around here. i just want to make sure what for the you are in a safe place. we could definitely hear the gun fire opting around you. oh yeah, i it, we would say again, we are within the vicinity of the presidential palace and we can hear the gunshots . and it looks like it is escalating, we heard it earlier,
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but now it's getting more and more about let me get instruct, let. let me ask you this question. you mentioned that there was an x. you couldn't confirm this some explosions going on around the presidential palace. does that raise a question mark about the safety? oh yes, there a bit for the head, board, hon. all the of the phase of, of the, for the had bought hong. what can you tell us about but well, general i've been put the official residents with the hipaa. by the way, military i just ran out. if you need to go and take cover, let's not keep you exposed. and then no, we will be all right, i guess when i disappear from the screen, that's why you should be concerned. but yes, i know that the head of the armed forces general update, but the hug hans residence is actually within the army. all the headquarters of the
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army, so he wouldn't normally be at the presidential palace at the moment, but the 4th, it's from both sides forth from both 5 the rapids, put forth and the army do have their troops within the presidential palace. again, that's because while general app and put the han is the commander of the armed forces, general mohammed have done that going to the head of the reference of what was the deputy head of the sovereign counsel. so there will be the presence of troops on the 4th, 4th of the military inside the presidential alex is expected or i think we're going to leave it there. thanks so much. have a we'll come back to you later. joining us by phone from her to miss dean. these are spokesmen of the sidney's professionals association. good to have you ever so does this look to you from what you've been able to verify that this is the 5th clash between the rapid support forces and the army going on?
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yeah, yeah, actually. a to so the army i talked to tom for the odyssey today morning in so called. 3 so but come maze where there is. a out if. 3 forces and he was in the statements over the. 3 he would tube over the army a cap, the base of the artist without any. b or without any preceding witness or preceding. 8 coming at them with the many types of guns so i think. 3 this is mostly embed. 3 inside the army because. 3 days ago, just the day before the day they do re they we're big presence. 3 brother in the name of their
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forces they were seen in. a army my shoes. a in hard to actually and they are carrying green sticks. i. b young guys getting green sticks the same that was did in the disruption of the sitting area. a 5 being hit was that you have to me in 2000. b 900 before in the beginning of their mission and at the same 6, that's where i used by them listed in brotherhood. where did they attack the bought association house. b b 6 11 year ago in the after but cool. so i think this is a big move from the muslim by that would be or out i'm inside the army. a support forces because because of the position from the framework agreement and defined a 40 components, we know that sidney's professionals association was involved in the mediation
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efforts. it sounded bef, before this escalation of violence, like a resolution was coming together. we heard statements from both the gallow and the photographer hand talking about taking steps to resolve things. what went wrong? yeah, yeah, i think what. a was because of that it would insight inside the army. they don't one of the things to go down, they won't get the late to actually because this is the last resort for the final battle, for the muslim brotherhood to come to the power. they will not allow any final process or any final agreement to be the army is confirmed by the board has not by most and brotherhood or any other factions. surely if, if ami unit. so mobilizing this is indicative. yeah. but of all that and having done before is hitting,
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hiding behind it is the brother in the army. you know, since that but she re, jim the army. 4 much evaded by the brother who actually and even even support forces. but more of the army. so do it's up to about cool. allow it 10. but most, if not all the muslim brotherhood in many aspects of life in the ministry in the army and even the people with this month and by the, by the don't look for him, but i that it would be marketing committee. we're back in the shop. so they get more money, came back to them and they didn't get to the power. so this school was hiding the really good kid. but so whenever let me know
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where does this leave that transition process from minute rule to civilian. we know that there was tension between the r s s and the army over some of the posts like chief of staff who becomes chief of staff that they go to a civilian exactly for the civilian oversight. all remained with the military. yeah, yeah, exactly. what's happening is that a security secretary for which during the statements of the army on the lead, that the artist is read the idea on the opinion that democratic transition, oper, tv, and government leading the country and the leadership should lead to inform what the new one again, is that the army, once again is the transition, they declared that we did the date if he was for the civilian
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government to lead and that is the usual that's happening in the didn't work. so that's and that's from the army. it show clearly that the muslim brotherhood in the army are agreeing for security for the really and government to come back to have a bad way into the country and they use the army and get better in the army resource . owed the. a re, to, to come back to the show and to get the leadership of the country or leave it. the thanks so much for your thoughts on that. let's go because of the ottoman right. # inside got to me. i think there is something going there. all right, thank you for your thoughts on that. we're looking at live pictures coming in right
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now from sedan. you can see pictures coming in from metal. that's where clearly something is on fire. and reports coming in at least from the side of the rapids, support forces talk about how they have been attacked by the sudanese army units. they refer to an incident in the area in a camp in sober coming on the attack this morning by what they say aggressive units from the army that began firing heavy and light arms on them. and they calling for international condemnation of this. now i believe we do have a morgan with us, he joins us live from sedan. so however, just give us a feeling now of will look at life pictures coming in from ottawa and some things clearly on the fire. it looks like this is a situation which is continuing to escalate, right across the country. right?
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yes indeed. i mean, people were hoping that it was in a few minutes, then sounds of gunfire getting heavier and heavier and especially again within the dimensional palace. and now from what we understand from me around the residence of the deputy head of the southern council and the head of the rapids, general mohammed double as well as within the guest house, which is the residence of general. i've been with the hon. the fact that the fighting has reached those areas, then things have escalated very quickly here in the capital. those 3 have become so me and but could people have been seeking the safety of their homes, the roads to some of the bridges to some of the capital. one of them understand has been. 4 by the rapid support forces, we understand again that there is fighting in fil,
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bought in the area of job as well. and we know that. ready in meadow, we army base where the tensions have thought that it's ongoing. so things don't look to be coming down despite the fact that there were statements from mediators that both could be head of the rapid support for says. and the head of the army said that they wanted the escalate the situation to avoid this kind of situation. all right, we're getting good reports here about r s. f forces. the rapid support forces deploying on the tarmac of how to tune airport than these are both pictures were playing pictures right now here. but let me talk, you throw a playing on the on the screen here. were playing pictures, latest pictures showing the deployment of what looks like military personnel. little hard to say, just based on looking at the pictures. who exactly they are, but the reports talk about the r s f deploying at the top mac of the airport in how
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to me. can you tell us anything about that hipaa? well, hard to mean can i smell airport is the major airport in the country and should be have taken over the karma, going to be taken over the course and they have been on and over over that as well . we do know that earlier on the army did try to deploy to that vicinity. again, this all started over an airport, the airport in murray in knob and forgot. so the if, if b r i have indeed deployed and taken over the hot assuming national airport, then this would be something major. but again, it's very hard to get something out of the army at the moment. they seem to be more busy in engaging with what's going on rather than answering their phones with the adults. but again, the situation has been very tense. people do want to hear just like they heard from the rapid support, focus about them being attacked in so, but they also wanted to hear from the army to figure to figure out exactly what
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happened and what is going on in the country that meal. so bring us up to speed hippa, as you're talking, we're getting reports saying all roads to the sudanese capital have now been blocked and all roads to the presidential palace have been blocks. so clearly this is an escalating situation. we're looking at the latest pictures which came in . you can see the smoke billowing overhead over buildings in the capital. hard to give us an idea of the relative strength of the r s f. how much muscle so to speak? do they have? well, the aren't that exact fighting for it has not been disclosed by their workforce as we do know that it's range somewhere according to experts between 82100000. but this is estimation,
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and that's because they've continued to recruit death continue to train to continue to graduate for so especially after the head of the rapids for the 4th of became the deputy head of the council. so it's not exactly clear how many officers and how many soldiers they have. what we do know is that they do have basis and camp around the country. ever since becoming the head of the sovereignty of council, general mohammed have done the force of became proficient in part of the country part where previously he, his forces were not present. this is raising concerns that again, because it's think it's thought that here in the capital it's happening in battery . what about the other part of the country places like that, which is already reeling from 2 decades of. 4 of the world, places like the east, which has been very ball of fat and very fragile due to conflicts and tribal tensions and where they are of the rapid support forces as well as the army. nice army. so all of this is raising consent because both sides are arms,
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both sides have forces, both sides are earth, patient around the country. they are concerned that this one will take some time before it dies down and that they will be civilian casualty. as you're speaking here, but we're looking at pictures also coming in from metal we. that of course, is one of the hot spots in this tension talk us through what you're hearing about developments there. we can see a lot of smoke billowing over the horizon the to what we do know is that just moments after the fighting between the record courses and armed forces, meadow e as. 5 pricing there as well. no matter we has been at the center of attention between the 2 side for, for, for 3 days now. and that's because in the early hours of one day to some of the rapid support forces move toward the army base and the airport matter. we and stationed themselves there more than 100 cars from direct support for this patient
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and setting up a base camp near the army. and that is what heightened the already existing tension between the 2. by now, for the past, when that happened, when the army requested the rapid growth underneath at a position that did not happen. in fact, we heard from the commander of the infantry in meadow e, the armed from the army, the army commander from meadow e, that they were more reinforcements for, for the rapids in moultrie, and that they are fighting happening right now. and what are we shows that the situation which many people and many sites have would be, would die down and would not lead to a full on compensation. it's not happening and there's no confrontation between the 2 sides. and they're concerned about the pavilion who will be caught up in the middle. we're getting lines as while talking about how fighting is now broken out, close to the head, causes of the sudanese rapids support forces or
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r s f in the student. these capital. how is this the place where the leader of the the gallo, also known as how many would normally be based while i been home. and again, because of the tension between the 2 side, i mean, you can confirm or whether they were actually in their residential areas or not. normally he would be and have in his residence and his residence is not far from the airport, not far from the home and the residence of the head of the armed forces. general i built with the hon. so under normal circumstances, you'd find behind in his residence, which it would then be army headquarters is find the head of the rapids support for the residents not far from the residence of the commander of the army. and you would be there for the patient around each other talking to each other, dealing with each other normally because they were at some point allies and,
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and partners including the overthrow of presidents because she had in the military take over in october of 2021 they will apartments and things went down between them, but after that is going to tension began. so again, we can't confirm whether the head of the rapid support for his residence at the time or right now when the fighting has thought that. but there have been a lot of pensions over the past 24 to 48 hours. so it would not surprising if both have not been at their residence because they're expecting something like this to happen. however, always hearing anything from either just hon, the head of the army, or from the how much i'm done, the gallo ahead of the recess at this point. we haven't heard from any side yet. we haven't heard from the rapid support forces we haven't heard from from the head of the rapids rather or from the head of the army. we have heard from the media team of the rapids for the detailing what they.
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