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what will you as arctic look white as we had to the presidential election of 2024. the quizzical look at us politics. the bottom line with hi, i semi ok. it's good to see you, our friends today on the screen. we are looking at the you of sports betting across the african continent. why it's so popular? what a nike can voice when a gamble, i'm very grateful with whatever i get from my winnings. be a 200 rants or 150 rats. that is fine. there is no work in the township. no one will give you money, especially since there is no work. keep any amount you receive and you'll be able to close off your expenses and come on the cell. and it's potentially dangerous. i've tried it, it was my was that if you shouldn't come to a batting shop,

if you have stress using your last money to bats, because if you don't when you'll collapse, people collapse here in the shop and we never know if it is due to hunger or any other conditions people get hurt here. we seen a lot of people that have collapsed by, by maggie matt. if you have a take on sports gambling across the african continent or experience, we would love to hear from you in the youtube comment section right here. now live be part of today show and joining our discussion, we have to bungle a somali similarly me katana. she is the executive director at the south african responsible gambling foundation. and she is in johannesburg. genius mob boss to charlie is a social scientist of them. law, we, epidemiology and intervention research unit. he has studied youth participation in gambling, and he joined us from bland, ty malawi, and joining us from kenya's capital, nairobi, nelson. we re,

it's program officer at the responsible gaming federation of kenya, se bungalow, a junior nelson welcome. if they could have 3 of you here, i'm going to start with a little assignment that we sent out and i will be crew off to do in kenya earlier this week, they were out of batting shop and they spoke to a couple of gamblers. and this is what they told us, letting it go at the indian. it will res. batting is removed many of us from a life of crime, but it has many advantages and one cannot sleep hungry if it is played right. so we asked for the government to support the batting injury fire on so nobody will get it in a bit war in 20. 19 i $1900.00 but since then i've lost and lost. now i have no more money, but i am hopeful i will win next time. you may well go, ah, how for the bread and next bread that ye in 2019 and $1900.00 an axle downhill

from there. oh, the wrong day, i am wondering hearing those cautionary tales and optimism at the same time. why is sports breton doing so well across the african continent? right now when he's driving that look, i think one of the reasons is that, you know, it's is an accessible, you know, i'm, for instance, in south africa actually don't have to go into a casino like you do, you do it on your mobile phone? yes, there are those that, that have updates, but one of the biggest driving factors in together in south africa is that it's accessible across or what vices. so that is the for each to grow. but also it's embedded in the sports. i mean, you know, a big sports is, especially in south africa. if you see a stadiums yet with a lot of p,

people across, across all our sporting, i think you go to pre k t t, all right, be you've got so cut. and so it's, it's, it's popular, you know, sports is popular across the world. so in africa, why not, why would it not grow? i'm actually not surprised that it took a very long time for sports. they tend to grow. and if you look at it, change them. so my guess to discuss it maybe started kicking in there in the late ninety's, all along sports in africa has been really not popular. what has been popular though is then based on the genius, this idea of sports on the coffee african content being super popular to that means . does that necessarily mean that gambling then has to be super popular? well, not an essay says, no sir, was to be like that in my opinion. but then these people are,

this is this gambling companies or they have, this is sophisticated marketing. they have this aggressive marketing well by a leg. what i'm going to say, you don't disturb, to get a gambling, a very little gumble and the wherever you're going in the street, you are exposed to some gambling, adamant. so it's like the marketing is very sophisticated, and with that, people are exposed to gambling everywhere, exposed to gambling. where are you i in the streets when you enter it, at least you because i'm like, wow, you will not walk 10 to 30 meters. are about about to enter to meet us, rather without seeing a billboard for a gambling company like we have remembered as well. what i'm started by defeat, that is, if you don't, if you decide to still also be blended with it, won't you watch your tv,

you find that out of it on the tv for gambling. you leave the do you try to see, to check your form to say, let me do some internet, you'll find a advent for a gambling on the internet. so you see a, they have to for up to the sophisticated marketing mechanism. and this, that has a fuel to the growth of gum or an industry, and many people are doing that in our african setting. a, an improvement is very high. so when somebody is exposed to assuming it an opportunity that looks like is good to change the last leg from what that young man will say. they're easy to jump on it. now some guy had let, let me jump on that on. so for me, i really appreciate my fellow guests if my fellow panelists on these last point, because the gambling ah, is something that is, are spreading like wildfire. it's got this feeling like 158 has been spreading before end of the root cause has been dot gambling started or the traditional form

of gambling was be because he knows it was maybe these informal, formal, informal beatings in their streets. but it wasn't the way that we had a envisioned online gambling will bring it to, you had to go there. you had to have time to go there. you had to have time to q to play. you had to have time to q to collect your winnings. all these you had to do it in a, in their space and time that the premises that you are going to is opening. but right now when there we find that our gambling great now is something that you can do with your phone with all, ah, without any restriction. and i, it, it makes it very much a popular and are very much secretive and accessible for people didn't even harder to gamble before even now. and then we give our audience some idea. some of the big betting companies across the african called to have a look here on my laptop. i said we got back inc. my gerry, over 160000091 using the a c c. a bonus feature. that way,

the best choice for betting look at the phone it or on the phone. one more here. that night is mobile app help you bet on football and no sound. got us slightly blame kenya and the brilliant and pesa which brought banking to your phone, which means that the tech was available for people to. but even if they didn't have a banking, how they can do it so easily. is that an issue with the amount of sport spreading that is happening across the african continent and an uncanny definitely definitely. when you come to mobile, the money it has the resolution. is that the way we spend money on in the rural areas did even i used to have any form of banking before, but right now they can hi accessed banking any time that they want just on their phone. it's as easy to send money as abc saw are the gambling companies also took

advantage of that? and you can see that they have put, they have seamlessly integrated their mobile money with their systems. so that when you deposit the money, it's immediate. and when you read the draw, it's immediate. ok. these also with the sports betting coupled with our passion, you know, that's what we've, we haven't talked about our passion for sports as youths, as young people. our passion has been milked out by, by the companies and i, this is, it has brought about, i can see a brilliant concussion. that is a safe haven for any gambling activities to continue in there. in africa. i just come in there. i think there's 2 things that i need to pick up on that he said by myself. okay. first of all oh, marketing potentially taking pending. i think, you know, sort of going to context. we've got to get a strong legislations that actually made sure that you know it perhaps the amount

of advertising or marketing by company. but it's, it's, it's actually amazing to say then was with what the regulation and the legislation that tabs, you know, how much a people and the exposure of kids of people, it's growing less. so if you can look at your mission, best way, it's one of the most responsible about it. i don't think that they have me actually go on social media and ties. and the key way, i think i, the enticement is longer and they entice a little read. well how, how, how would you describe enticement when you're talking about m a betting company, a gambling company? how to how, how do you know that gentleman in k? yeah. yeah. that's actually the one that's 190900 made in the 29 guy that used to live. so he's got it in time to see if you gamble you, you can become immediately more. so in our skin context, we've got to what we call that response and we'll get it,

which is actually what open it is a slab to they are mostly prevented from advertising and enticing people to say i'm if you can both use them as becoming either nick is the same as i think this them in our country who had to see, you know, are you trying to live with the, with the, with the interview just because what are your nations that you know, when gambling happens, it needs to be refundable, but that's not to take away the thing that leads to accept. i said, i'm going to bring in the ceo of gamble alert in nigeria because he talks about this narrative is narrative about you. you can when you can when bake. and then genius come up the back of that because i know you want to take us in a different direction. so we're gonna do design, okay. he has no relation, he's the ceo of gamble alert, and we spoke to him earlier. this is what he told us. this is

a zion battle gummed in or young with when to push the se. gonna create a job opportunity for some person, for that either good. i've been, you've learned a young people can live with. and one issue is that with coming addiction or financial and therefore i look forward to those coming off of these laws, policies, and turn to responsible marketing stop in to iraq to reach his narrative. genius go hat. yeah, well i from that video, one to pause do said that he has mission to say i gambling industry brings improvement. well, find that good. yes, it brings improvement. but then i might not know from nigeria perspective. but then

from our to say that we did essentially from the article that to pop you cited, you say that the payment that is going to these way cuz we're going to say that paid based on the commission. so if you have been business information, it depends on how many tickets beating tickets that through so. so for example, one started one to start getting you started getting as low as any question. so if you sell any quite a tickets, what is it? if we're conveyed into dora it's point 0000 cents. if we're going video in your store. so as you mean, somebody says yes. so maybe $1520.00 by the end of the month, they pair that'll, that'll come from this a dumping job or not to be now hello. so why don't we and said that yes, it has created jobs. well, financing, but the jobs and they,

the jobs that can make somebody has survived one to set it, you know, there was even, it, some people that a, a gumbo a that even though is that i any brilliant. so you see, yes, i agreed to get involved in bremond, but then they put them in to self. why it does not give they did it, they added to the adamant income yet. well, let me go to the check cuz i am, are, was on each of our eager to get into that conversation. i'm gonna make this as speed around announcing your instant reaction to what our audience is. so it's picking up um, so as a gamble, as it must gamble, respond simply, i'm not sure if that is an oxymoron. is it now thing when it comes to responsible gambling, i think are the gondolas are the ones who are suffering the button. i to be told that i responsible gambling only lies on their shoulders, but this is not the kiss or responsible gambling is an environment created by all

the call does. it's a multi faceted environment. that's what i think, where the government should be responsible one. ah, because for the rules and regulations that they put in the enforcement of the rules and regulations to their gambling companies themselves, they should clear that is possible gambling environment where the identify at risk people, people who have issues and i said 3 got us methods to make that to make sure that these people are being looked after and don't just spiral into our problem gambling . i other, another question. i mean, let me get, let me get, let him get back to you to the campus to just participate. don't don't know if i could go rhetoric that quickly. oh yeah, go ahead. thank you very much. and another facet of their disposable. gimme a gambling it belongs also to this was that there's also the should be able to, to, to stop the stigma that it has. and i exist especially the school. so if i look at

us portugal or most schools in k, i'll find that the harvard school drugs policy, the oven alcohol policy and not a whole lot going crazy. i love you. i love that. all right, i think i want to becky's on you chip. i'm going to put this to you, said bung delay very quickly again that he says there is need for serious regulation, especially with gen z gamblers thoughts i mean, who is got the laws and it doesn't pay lead to anyone under the age of 18 together . and in terms of this other responsible government foundation, we've got to what we call taking wisely. it's a program that we actually take to schools where we teach people young kids in school about the effective or the effects of weight on it. because of how the content is built in a school environment to a key, they were made up of everything and grow that would actually adopted to that and

behavior. so i can see that there was a kid that witnesses that no one under the age of 18. so campbell, i'm going to bring him randolph here at randolph. i'm going to play full a you genius, and then immediately react of the back of where his largest concern. ah, his randolph contrary to the perception and a promise of an easy and see if we go from making money. these benson establishments have been set up to profit of losses of individuals. they are not the chinese organizations handing out of cash and copy, talk to the youth of africa, rather be i here to take from our one raoul youth. so shirley, a more i'm and by advertising these establishments, we are preaching to our new to for hardwick and excellence in pursuit of

fools. paradise well, is it from what you're saying? if i mean, i'm to put it in this way gambling, it's a game of walk, that's the research and so understand that love what did gum brings a game of all i was it even if you lose, but those to give you hope that maybe i try one more tire on what are we? yeah. yeah. so you find that it, somebody a will press a bit and lose, and then the net is it a friend wizard? if the when no, so to maybe next tire, it will be more so government phrase will feel minute is a game of that. okay. even if you lose this them don't lose look, look at your friends. they have tried, they have, well, it will be next day. so these gum encumbrances did know that g, a, our african landscape largely these young population and young,

but racial. we love things. so they're big, so also to marketing, to make you not to leave it in the us, even if you're you for you see that you are losing but will not, it was don't bring you something that is going to make him stay, give you hope that maybe next year, if you say you to be you, but i'm gonna just be up front here. we know that gambling is enticing, the idea is it keep going back, you keep going back. and so it's, it's often framed as an leisure activity, not a banking or employment activity. maybe it's on us as citizens to truly truly understand that i have to play a bet king at which sums up this idea of responsible gambling. and then now thank you. come off the back of your immediate reactions. let's have a look. ah

ah, with blue kings. okay. oh, thanks for that. i think that's a, that's a very interesting advertisement. but what i see, what i don't i used to. i'm usually again when it comes to our such advertisements regarding advertisement. if they shouldn't entice, they shouldn't be put in a way that it's are. it's like sugar courts, orita it entices maybe because they are not what they like. these are kid. we'd have find it very,

very interesting. and what that kid is looking at is actually gambling. and i don't know if they just see the name, but can we know the government yesterday? we are a focusing on it and i'm in italy suggesting that they don't treat her. but i mean, when i go to collection, i did that. did he ever so we, we, if the only condition that stops this behavior then obviously in the us we will build. so i think all why is the relation it all, he does governments take responsibility and put proper conditions in place to protect the public. but then i think i, i think this is a good, a lot good on marketing tactic, which is a very, very, i can say, morally, my site because it's not honest,

any advertisement should be honest. and it should be that purporting it should be selling whatever it's not wanting to sell, not quoted under anything else i think got dizzy on so jessica has let me know, but then it would not be able to split it to you. and i was just calling into such tricks because i believe your organization and my organization, we actually are working on making sure that we educate the public. you know, i really liked it takes we actually engage with the operators in miss eating and how the city should be conveyed to the public. and that means we are a, let me just add, just in case i forgot that you are funded by the betting and gambling organizations in south africa. that is part of the regulation process. so you are funded by an all organizations who actually profit from people gambling. i think that's really

important to understand. that's quite a difficult tightrope for you to walk genius quickly. you are probably going to be the last word in this conversation guide. yeah, yeah, i have a question. i have a question to ask you talk about a government, a granting advertising. how effective is that in your country? because you see, we may have a regression on advertising, but dissembling racial, you'll find that you'll say, i don't, this is should not be accepted by people under the age of 18. but you find that in the sim people energy, did i still participating in a gum? how is distraction in yoga? was it okay, let me just get a price on this issue that i had to set up a cuz i hung up with me

wearing a new one minute show. so i know that the conversation was for flowing to an end. now sentence from use on like go ahead. i'm. yeah, i was a very clear in terms of advertising and marketing. it should not be me. ok, i'm clearly they do marketing, but it's got a stucco. right. i hear you. now. sentence for you. genius. a sentence. go ahead. well, gum green is a big thing, a company called bricks industry, and i need to address the problems that are coming with government industry and lost phone short sentence when you nelson, all right. my niece to add to the youths to yes, enjoy life. have fun, but at the same time my duties pointedly, which are you didn't have consequences, so stay informed. they are brought in stay engaged. thank you. thank you jeff.

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