oh, just the me, we have documented molly transfers of more than $24000000.00 between italy in columbia by a chinese system in just one year. that's more than $24000000.00. and now the money as far as the italian profits are concerned was invested in germany and in portugal in restaurants, in ice cream shops and in car washes. ready as stormers in the us of observed a stop swallowing its own planet, may happened in a solar system. 13000 light years from our own is the 1st observation of its kind telescopes, the monitor, the whole night sky caught the brief end of the 10000000000 year old stars life. it swelled becoming a red giant, and then in a bright flash, the last had several days consumed. one of his own planets believed to be of similar size to cheaper. ah,

it is out there. these are the top stories. russia says it has stopped an assassination attempt on president vladimir putin. moscow says to drones, we used an early morning attack on the kremlin national authority, say ukraine was behind it. keith strongly denies the allegations. charles strafford is in care of with more a statement from one of you from ukrainian president rather florida mi zalinski senior advisors. mostly for dorothy ac is saying that this in his mind is a false flag attack. and of course, a false flag is something that is being fabricated to give, in this case, according to blog at russia, the pretext to attack. and we saw this kind of, this kind of thing in the build up to the full scale invasion, much specifically in the, the pro russia separatist held areas. the so called d and r. when the separatists claim that there's been a number of assassination attempts on their officials, and this was, as i say, only a few days before that full scale invasion. the parents were 13 year old boy accused

of opening fire in a school and the serbian capital bail grade have been arrested. least 8 children, one security guard who kills police say the suspect to use his father's gun than the attack. but he's not expected to be charged. instead, serbian president alexander village, it says the boy will be placed in a psychiatric institution. the took the boy is as of now in a special place, he will be placed in a special neuro psychiatric ward, his father, as the owner of weapons that were improperly kept despite having permit smell was arrested. the mother has been taken in as well as the you ends. humanitarian affairs chief is calling for security guarantees. are the highest level to ensure the safe movement of desperately needed. a deliveries in sudan violence has continued in the capital hard to must, despite yet another sees far extension least 550 people have been killed and another 4900 injured in nearly 3 weeks of conflict. okay,

those are the headlines you are up to date as always our website, how to 0 dot com as the latest on all of our top stories, including at drone attack in moscow, the stream is coming up next. stay with us for that talk. the law will the law, when with neither side, willing to negotiate is the ukraine war becoming a forever war is america's global leadership, increasingly fragile. what will us politics look like as we had to the presidential election of 2024, the quizzical look us politics. the bottom line with us. any ok, thank you for watching the screen. may. the 3rd is, well, press, stay and to mark this special day, let me look at the, what the journalist do around the, well, we are going to focus in on the challenges of journalists. we're trying to cover

this. how region of africa taken? ah what is it like to be a journalist in this a hell that is the question that we are asking all of our guests. they will be on away. and if you are watching online on twitter, on youtube, please share your comments as well with us from naomi investigative journalist

david delay. joining us to the scanner from washington, d. c. the director of the west africa bureau for reporters without borders thought a boom all wrong. and joining us from the car, jasmine diallo, senior researcher with amnesty international gentlemen. it is really good to have you here. we're talking about the challenges of journalism coming out of this a hell region, but also how you faced those challenges down. so the reporting doesn't stops and we don't have a no new zone. part of africa. solder bu, at, at reporters without borders, you call this area and no new zone. why is that? is absolutely no nose tone when, for example, when you take muddy, which is right now i'm divided into 2 to part the northern part under southern part, the northern part is quite problematic in terms of access, in terms of developing new, in terms of collecting information, developing it and,

and, and, and disseminating it. when you go to the, to the neighboring countries, a book. and so that's the same i, we have been taught in all those countries meeting john alice working. and what they have told us is clear. it's quite difficult for us to go and report independent the before be on it. the key to matter example from why the do and the economists or whether do either smart tv, what is called kaya? it's quite difficult because i'm the terrorist group are there near it. while we're waiting for them and military, military security forces are so our day and the risk ease. when you are caught by terrorist group, you're going to be a good, a good target. but when military do you and, and got you are so you're going to be considered as an enemy of the nation. you might be tried, you might, you're going to be persecuted. you're going to be sent to jail. that is quite problematic. and the situation is the model is the same when we go to nisha or

a beat of, of been in, in the, in another part of been and way if the template accessing the who in your product, which is another part of been in the bigger city of been in is, is banned by the treaty on behalf of nothing and to help us, nothing is going to be the same as, as we go to go and chinese. and so i think if you look at the situation in this i had had the will, has pretty well summarized. i think the independence of journalist is at risk because of the military takeover by the government in which john and have been under pressure to report narratives of the conflict. but artful about political situations. which doesn't contradict to establish a narrative of the government. we have seen that invoking our fossil or jones such as poway and mon newton. barry has been intimidated, intimidated online, but also offline duty. they're reporting about the country,

but also in money. where recently we have had cases of journalist, but also with activists being abducted by the intervention services 4 days a times subjected to in treatment and torture. and this has led to this constitute a risk, a possibility of no go zone in this countries because due to the area rate in conditions journalist will be tempted to cancel or even to leave this country in order to protect their physical integrity. what is so disturbing is that you use, excuse me, sorry, but you say this, it's so matter of fact, it's not some journal if it's just journalists, but the, the threat, the risk for journalists seem to be across the entire region. i want to give an example of my league who was reporting for molly at to flee from molly. and then he's now back a molly talking about, well press freedom day from,

from the position of experience. david, i want you to listen to my links experience and then tell us about how you have been in a situation where you were also very concerned about your safety case. ma leaks, mendez, agnes, on performance 8 victim. i've been a victim of assaults at my office. at the end of july 2022. we brought forward complaints. we alerted the authorities, but nothing was done. in the face of this to pursue our security or integrity. we all decided to leave the country and go to a neighboring country to get shelter. the insecurity to continue our jobs. like i said, a journalist, a good journalist, is one that's alive with full liberty. the reason for which we decided to give ourselves that liberty and security to be able to continue to do artwork.

i'm just, i, i'm just sighing ruefully that because i, i lost david for a 2nd that david is back with us. david, i'm just thinking here the time when you were covering a story, when you were most afraid to be doing the story as an investigative journalist. what story was that? yes, so i work on so many topics or concerning terrorism, for example, i did across the board on the border between molly in nija berry region in minnesota was a 2 years ago. it was recommended challenge is certainly to, to private. you know, if you have to travel in the north of the country and then you need to get, get ready for that. you need to, to manage everything to be like a city,

then you need to change your west. you need to, to, to get the context on the ground and you need to cover your head and to be able to look like people did. this is the things you should do curtly before to leave. so i was working on the topic with my colleague access for media. so it was a very didn't do topic for us. so it was death to, to see how people surviving against terrorism attacks and how terrorism groups they're doing to, to, to keep people with them. it's not there. so people did and they alone and they don't have support from government. so that's why they

sometimes they manage to, to follow terrorism growth in the graph. and so it is not easy. it wasn't easy for us to, to work on the, on the topic. so, but everything was okay for us in the we will work to reporting on terrorism is especially hard in money and invoking office. so as you know, there has been military takeover and by government that has promised changes in the security landscape in, in this context as david has pointed out, the situation in the mimic region. and tonight there is one where it's let me state in the is the predominant army group and have launch it. and since march 2022 and reporting about that situation, ease very much under the scrutiny of the government of money and also of the

government of booking offices. and i just want to remind you of the case of the journalist. if you do walk with just the freed 2 months ago, i think what he was abducted for almost 2 years. while he was doing a report on the spread of the group for the for border, we slamming with him in the go will region to do with our clear and then just fix my to get by the by the journalist in that region. i've got to bring yes. yeah, go ahead. yeah. yeah. i just wanted to. i mean, in terms of getting nothing, i mean actually in money the out to hello. yeah, we have to go ahead. we're going to take david off screen for the moment. we think we get a big renters and keep getting started with them. the most user access also. so but yeah, i don't, i wanted to highlight 2 things. so in terms of getting nothing, it cannot be the risk of but john, the lesson lisa,

i mean i want to say it. i mean the case of olivia was okay, but also actually in money to other guess it was. i'm going to go and then i'm going to be bullied or so they have, they want missing since the 2 years now. and the government military gentle. they are doing nothing for them. and this is also absolutely absolutely awful for it for, for the job with themselves. and for the family, no one know if they are still alive or if they are, they have been killed me over to know that i mean these people, these to join. and if they have been kidnapped by, by arm to groups, but into nowadays, no effort for the, for the, for the, for the government, for the, from the government. and the other thing is, when you are reporting, why do they ask their ruling, the countries most of the times, fighting by the terrorist group, they are also doing lot of human rad violation, including killing of women, including killing of elderly people, including killing of every wherever and then they don't want that to be called,

but independently report, bye bye bye bye bye. this is one of the key problem. the journalist says they want all journalists, local and information to set to be in accordance with the narrative themselves. they want to sell to the ward. this is the quite a brand there. it doesn't fit brands the journalist to do a quick one about yes. ok. in money in booking office, what we have seen governments calling journals, someone in them into the ministry of communications and exalting them to a battery or the treatment of information that shows the kind of pressure that they've done or to have stories about our country. then you're not truly pe take, which is it's, that's not journalism one i want to turn to. and let me just bring in, i know, you know, living dubois story, but i would, it's may well be thinking if this, or it's a dangerous how an aspect of journalists get themselves into

a situation where they are kidnap. this is how living at the war explained what happened to him in molly, let's listen to who didn't even see on april 8th, 2021. i left out to do an interview with a group of militants. and i was kidding. i was 323 months later in the idea of going to be these militants came about in november 2020. it took about 4 or 5 months until a letter of invitation sealed the deal. it made me go to gout. wal, initially it was out of the question for me to go to galaxy. i had to be done over the phone. but he explained in one of his responses that he does not do interviews over the phone. he doesn't trust a phone. so if i wanted to interview him, i would have to go to gal. and in the end, because i had assurances because i trusted my fixer, my contact, i went to go and i was kidnapped. he walked to journalists, king about the dangerous and the risk that they face. let me start, we started bu because you reports without frontiers without borders. put out

a report just recently about the, to how region the dangerous, what the threats are, but also how you cope with that. as a journalist, what do you do? read this book we spoke during the, during our, the preparation of the report. you know, many countries that i have with many journals, including international journalists, including are so some of their pictures. and they have been explaining, for example, of some local journalism and for some safety, unsecure to read them. they will refraining from going outside of the, the capital city or in the remote area for reporting. because for example, when, if you, in some countries i'm like looking for so and we were so, so you know, so shown that i think the national id card in some countries, i mean the dimension of a proficient is not there, but it, there in book enough so we, someone school has showed us his, his id card. there is profession journalists. and if you are a profession as

a professor of journalist, when you got in a bit by a traveling, for example, from the super super prevents to, to, to decide region. you might be stop the best buy be stopped for the, for controlled by those groups who are alongside the rude and they enter the base. they control who, who is, who here when they see that you are the journalist, they say ok, yes. get, get out of the best with foot for up here and the goods will go will go without you . i mean, these are some of the risk. yes. yeah. and so what, what is also interesting is, so the possibility for some of them to develop the kind of network of resilience. for example, covering the covering the northern part is also developing some strategy interesting strategy, for example, to develop some, some source, his local sources from the remote region. those people, if what's up or the social net will available, those people,

if there is something an attack, they can just rely the lot. they can just send the information in a very, as a rush and then send it to another. another source is who will send it to, to another associate who will send it to another contact and who will send to the, to the took to is john and, and in the car about the mentors of revenue festival. i was just, i wanted to point out our shows the hard unity of the superior communications confers that exist in money and invoking flexible and often that have been the actors, someone in donor, it is and asking them about their editorial tone about the report. let me just use the case of the, at the head, are you do in the what the heck are you do of duty, but the v in october, who what someone by the, how you communications funds in money and asked about the reporting on political transitions during his weekly show, and that is a problem because those,

the actor should be the one protecting journalist and developing the networks of reasons, but not the exposing them to the winds of the one about gentlemen, the perpetrators, the, the root causes of why journalism is so difficult not just dangerous, but just very, very challenging. anyone we spoke to professor from utrecht university, have listened to this study bu, and then tell me, how do you get around the circumstances, the professor, 1st of all 1st of all, you've got a military government in molly versus trying to paint a rosy picture, but it's operation since job waiter kim to power in 2021. now obviously journalists who are opposed to these narrative or critical their taxes. and the last thing of course, is also the way off the russian part of military wing are the one

a group of this group has been accused. also, especially among local journalists for silencing descent or journalists who are or post to is operations. how do you do journalism in a situation like this thought about this is i'm amazed that anybody is doing any stories, but that's the whole point, isn't it is a fact, it is a really chilling effort and then a mix of danger from a problem, some edited from the automated side, the side or from the other side was which is for some time or so the weapon group, prison in muddy and in some part and from, from, from, from, from time to time in booking, up a so and about was in the groups i mean, the thing is that the narrative, the control of the not achieve of the, you know, of the war and also the people, one of the kind of anti anti french speech they are extremity. very good, very,

very powerful on that. starting in molly, for example, where from time to time, you can see i'm in a kind of echo system of people who are pro agenda and who are again to friendship people, or who are so again, journalists trends, journalists who have been in malia and who now have all, all, all being relocated from the country to another, to another country like into cot or like in the share for the safety. and this is extremely important for this. if the they, they have no mean no way to stay the 4040. otherwise, they think one of the month is that the revenue routes and the new partnerships that has been developed by the menu given month includes a dimension about communications. so it's not only a joint patrol by a wagner and the military infantry money. there will be communication strategies

and campaigns. we have seen that being developed in the, in the, in, in, in money over the last year. but also like from charles being developed through twitter campaigns that age, a decent formation in the money and the targets sometimes generally, sometimes 100 donors, sometimes political authorities. and it is interesting because when we've got connective issues with david and we've got light issues with osman, these are every day challenges that journey across the african continent. they often have the face, but in the so how region there's this idea layer of difficulty. why is it so important that journalists organizations to port jonas, they really draw attention to why it's so difficult to report from this a hell. and this is angela. she spoke just a little bit earlier and she explains it in less than a minute is yes. if you,

you kept in the dark and you're unable to make informed decisions based on, on accurate and credible information from a variety of sources, then not you more likely to be manipulated are to be fed propaganda lies, especially by those who are whole bent on stain in power and who wants censorship? look, it's really a case of you have the right to know and to have a mind of your own. and for that to be successful. a free pluralistic and independent media is essential. so much bigger than just trying to get the story out as an impass of andrew said, if you kept in the dark haired man he was in the dark momentarily. it was run. pick up for us. yes, i think she has a very solid point about the right information, which is truly at stake in money in walking. this is along freedom of expression and press freedom. the right to information of citizens is that state currently due

to the conflicting narratives about via the trajectory of the transition. if you look at the, for example, the math expulsion of having the listen to and read french media, how you sit on your phone down if you're not involved and get what, what state was the media independence about tony report about the conflict which sometimes contradicted the government and which was the appreciated i just want to give the example of the case of the, the woman $52.00 women that were abducted just outside of the tone of the invoking 1st in january. because they were connecting a wind fruits because those that she had been under. busy feed my arm a good since last summer and because the hope was and talked about that situation in the fact that. busy abducted by d had if what followed was the expiration of the home from the get go home looking

for sure. because the government appreciate that narrative. yeah, absolutely. let me just very quickly show our orient how france 24 responded to being pushed out of pikeno faster because they no longer able to be seen in the keynote faster. let me just show you very quickly. let's play this guys. we don't have a much time left in our in our program. this is how france frank responded to me, that pressure in that they are doing journalism, they're not going to be pushed out. but this is again, one of the dangers, the rest of the journalism in an area that doesn't want to journalism a tool to go very quickly to youtube, because on youtube, we've had some thoughts from our audience, sato and just very quickly, one of our viewers, he's saying this isn't a no news though. this is a secret so difficult to get information out and then broad. his watching. had some suggestions for journalists about will. maybe they need to protect themselves better. they should be equipment. body cameras is even suggesting stung guns at

a minimum, but that means your journalist a going to war in order just to tell news and tell the story, sort of who, what would be the final thoughts for. so nice organizations, journalists are trying to get news out of this a health region for how they take care of themselves and their colleagues. we have, we have advice that under command in our report, a lot of recommendation on one of them. for example, towards the media media organizations or need a news from sources. for example, if they want to see the, i mean they still have the right to go reporting because that's not really really, really bond, but it is, it is because of the government around under security forces they can't access. but in case they have the possibility they, they have to they, they should develop the protocol to set up auto safety and security protocol in the newsrooms, the journalism from called before going to going to report,

they need to be well equipped. i'm good with that. i know we have a that's a good place to stop. i've been very well equipped and very well prepared. we are more prepared. jennison will be right now from having heard this episode of the strange saddle was man and david who we had on earlier. thank you so much for being part of today's program. may. the 3rd is well press day. we wish all of the journalists around the well trying to tackle difficult stories. every success i'm watching. i see next time. ah, ah.

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