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thought of richard have a headlines here on tuesday or a new 7 day sci fi is any effect into them. but that hasn't stopped the fighting between the army and the power military rapids support forces. meanwhile, thousands of people are still scrambling to find ways out of saddam and seek safety in nearby countries. rest with out, our reports from jetta. up to 2000 civic feeds have arrived. is it safe? i saw a naval base in did that. so the officials here are saying that the international are committed, they need to get much more involved and for ramp up the 4th to victory people because there are still tons of houses still waiting there to be to be safe and to, to desperately to, to, to of course, to, to be in the us before my lead of the final right prob boys group has been convicted of crossing to attack us capital on january 6th, 2021. and we can tell you who has been found guilty of suspicious conspiracy. along
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with 3 of the members of the group, those defendants and the 5th member of the proud boys were all convicted of felonies including obstructing congress's certification of the 2020 presidential election results. and conspiring to prevent congress and federal officers from discharging their duties. the evidence presented a trial detailed, the extent of the violence of the capital on january 6th. and the central role these defendants played and setting into motion, the unlawful events of that day. today's verdict makes clear that the justice department will do everything and that's power to defend the american people and american democracy. india has deployed hundreds of troops, threats, northeastern states of money, pull it off to several people killed and ethnic violence. homes have been front and businesses vandalized locals. tribal groups are protesting against the may take
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a minute is demand for better social benefits. a teachers have been shot dead at a school in northwest august on the shooting, half of the high school in the remote town of but actually not in the cut them district. the other boat out with the dentist on police are investigating the motive. so those are the headlines and this continues here on out to 0 off to the stream state to events, to watch and talk to out just 0. we are who is really fighting this russian music faulkner or is it the russian military? we listen, we started talking to me, i'm also that is your citizen. you should stick to the back. we meet with a news me cuz i'm talk about the story stuck matters on august the or the high i 70. okay, welcome to the stream. do you have a like a pdf page from scratch relations if you do it?
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it really is a big deal. is one of the top 10 websites in the entire weld. earlier we talked to us physiologists with jenny route about what it felt like to be like a punitive. this is what he told us. when i 1st found out that i had a wiki page about me, i was frankly flat. it chopped, tickled pink because you see a big pdf is like go to start for quick references on sign to face pop plays, discoveries, and people. and so the idea that people could come to pick a p d and find out about my research was really quite nice. and this was not a soft piece. it turns out that this article about me is really well researched. it's quite accurate. i'm pretty insightful summary of the work done by my research could. so that really pleased me. so let's take
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a little deeper into wikipedia and its impact is the 1st that it was made in january 2001 the o 6600000 articles. 1.1000000000 edits in over 300 languages. so who all the edits who are doing or if this work, just taking these fats festival and then let's take it out. 80 percent of the editors on wikipedia on mail. and that is why we're doing the show that is a gender gap. the gender inequity, which in houston editing who is being featured. i'd say we're going to look at some of the what the spring done to close that gap. so with us to talk about this in london, jessica wade. she is a physicist and research fellow at imperial college, london has our address in baltimore in the west care with an s k executive director of the group out of feminism. i you that kierra names thing up for rosie stevenson,
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good night for trustee of the wickham, media foundation, co founder of which of project women in red. so good to have you over here. all right, so this is a major issue. it's really quite stock chess will happen. why is it so many guy is who does that with a pdf making decisions, blocking out who is important and then writing about them having to get i think there's kind of 2 reasons. i mean, it's a fantastic issue and i'm super grateful that you've taken on. but i guess one massive issue is that society doesn't do enough to recognize and celebrate women. and what can be a is the general interest encyclopedia and content on wikipedia reflects the sites . so general interest is, society isn't doing enough to say there are amazing women, artists, or amazing women scientists or amazing women musicians,
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then the notes ability criteria on wikipedia. i'm going to reflect that, that jen during that could be. so one is society's is on a quote. and the other reason which you alluded to, and your demographics, if the audit is, is we just starting to have enough diversity of people contributing to wikipedia based around the time that we could p d, a started on the types of people who were online. most, you know, 20 plus years ago, we've got this huge demographic and balance, which means that we don't have enough diversity and not know if those editors who all the, then not writing enough pages about extraordinary women searched by society spell. and what could be the editor's fault? yeah. oh goodness carrie. you know this and you doing something about it. i'm just going to show one more step for our audience about how many biographies that are in terms of biographies of men and biographies of women. and again, this is, this is improved, this is an improvement from um, several years ago. it's going up from 15 percent to 90 percent. but so slow, tara,
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how do you speak this off? well, by working with the global community of information activities. and just really kind of elaborating a little bit more of feedback, you know, what dr. dr. just had to say, is it any reading it? and it was a pedia which is very exciting. but also that is, or it goes to another question. and the questions of who has the resources to volunteer? we know that there is like a precarious labor asking people to volunteer places like the you ask for volunteer . it is possible, it might be one thing, but we also know that because of the parent that it went in on binary people bypass, the community has all been disproportionately impacted by the panic. so then when we get to who you have the ability to volunteer, that really kind of like makes what we're doing a little precarious in some ways. and so what we do our feminism though, is we try to create
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a community that really helps support each other in editing this huge trove of natural grows. what you're really doing is your creating history because we're not seeing this history, we're not seeing when it's contribution. and so what you want doing in was edit white edit or citation by citation is creating history that he's not being seen globally how to get to that. right. i am so glad you brought that up because that's what we're doing. i don't think any of us set out to be history makers. we saw something we wanted to do, and we just went ahead and did it. but by doing it, we've become these active us, and historians, i guess in our own right. i kind of think of it, i live in california. i'm traveling right now, but i live in california in the old gold mining town from the california gold rush
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. and i think about those minors facts and who are like mining for gold and that's what we're doing. we're mining for these notable women and making sure that their stories are told that they're exposed so that they don't just fall by the wayside. and the last history altogether, voltage issue is such a disruptor. it's not easy to do what you do, but just sit and deliberately pulling women who are important and then create like a pdf pages for them. i'm going to show something on my computer, which is truly stunning when we just think about it. and this is a headline from a few years ago. female noble prize when i think not important enough for wic a p t a n tray. well, the watts dr. jess, what are the push backs that you get when you say this cousin's important? i've done my research is the page data. well, i mean, safe districts in this case is quite fascinating to districts and is the nobel
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laureates in physics. and so, and you know, 2018 when the oscar came out. someone had attempted to create to work a p. d, a page about her. but they failed to find enough references, enough citations that proved to other wikipedia auditors that don't district 10 professor don't district and it's not about laurie. it was as noticeable as she is . so that was an in, out of an inadequacy of wikipedia. it wasn't like a p d or the looking, huh. it was that sadly as to find enough citations and not really reflects societies ability to recognize and celebrate. huh. because most of enough places were covering has story, became enough enough. newspapers were covering things about how or no trace of how were being listed, we couldn't find those sites patients to back it up. so that's one of the biggest challenges the ice age as we can see, the editor. and i know that kira and rosie will agree, then i'll send you have the sensational women. but to be on wikipedia, we need someone to a restaurant about them to have proof out them to have told that story somewhere
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else. so we can fight it. so we can build that encyclopedia entry. so what i really wish and was that science especially, started recognizing women's contribution. people have colors contribution. people from all the head start too much and nicely we need to be giving them awards. we need to be faxing about them on television and radio programs and say that when encyclopedias and historians want to document that contributions when classroom teachers want to talk about them. and they have those places to go to for knowledge . say that's one of my biggest challenges as a, as a advocate for women scientists, it's really finding those places that are honoring them. i am going to find our audience are watching on, which is to be part of this conversation. we've got 4 examples. women of notices who still should have like a pdf pages. do let us know on youtube. i'm going to go to calories is on phelps. she has a pdf page. she is a american nuclear chemist. she got to read the page. it's not that
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easy. she was on like a pdf and then it was quite difficult for her to stay here. when do you see how story? can you come back at the end of it and say, what is going on as it was? what is going on here? and then how you do this, this basically this starts between your own, your, of your own, your, off, his clarice being added to a t p. it was actually really very exciting. i mean, it's one of the most popular places to learn about different people, places in things. and so it was definitely an exciting moment for me. however, during the process of updating my page, it was taken down a number of times to, to different editors. i was thinking that i wasn't eligible enough or that there wasn't enough sources in order to validate my page being up there. so as much as it was exciting, it was also
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a little disconcerting to go through that process. yeah, unfortunately that experience is real and it goes a lot to really just build on the doctor just to say on the citations wikipedia works on the citations and if we as editors don't have enough to use, it can make it really challenging. and this is across all disciplines. i know that that was a scientist for another doctor. just work specifically with scientists, but even talking about in the art world. if you look at dances, basic history of western art, which is kind of like the textbook for our history, only 8 percent of those $300.00 plus listed artist or women and less than one percent of them are women of color. and so we just really need to not only do better in terms of like getting more editors to put people from the margins on the computer. also we need the sources of something else that we've done our
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communism. and we've actually did a white paper about looking at the reliable source guidelines. because when with the p, u was started back, you know, over 20 years ago, these reliable source guidelines were written and it doesn't include really, i mean we've evolved a little bit now, but there is debate now like what is a reliable source with what pod? cast, cow, asked reliable source, and those are all kind of pretty heated discussions and some pockets of the wiki for us on how we can get more of these patients to get more incredible people with the pdf raising what is a reliable sales as well, there's actually a policy that tells us what is a reliable source and every one of those $300.00 language would compete is and it varies. the english language we compete is, has one thing. and for example, sanskrit which pvm might say something altogether different about what's of reliable source. but basically i can tell you what isn't
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a reliable source. things like social media, things like blog posts, with some exceptions, like the new york times blog posts would be considered acceptable. otherwise, we're looking at things like history, books, and textbooks. and as coverage is interviews that the media might do, those are considered reliable sources. other than that, it starts becoming if he thought to just how do you do it, how do you write the wikipedia entries and then feel comfortable that they're not going to have some push back and then they're going to be taken down or added to them or or people who are not believing that these women or was the of having a wiki page. i mean, i guess it's, it's a johnny and it's a journey what you're going to find gold, which is why can we do it? you know, as far as the mentions you find to these incredible nuggets of information, i don't think we've done 30 south of justice,
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but she is an extraordinary new kid chemist. she was part of the navy before she took this job in, in a big national lab in the states. and she worked on the discovery of an elements in the paradox table. and it's quite hard to discuss the elements in the peer to the table. she contributed to the discovery of the element, tennessee, and this is one of these non naturally occurring elements. so you have to synthesize it in a lab and then be able to measure what you synthesize. and it doesn't list a very long search section because science an inquiry says, the fast black women to contribute to the discovery of it as an independent table, they speak, she's the only nurse of, oh, right. and but the case, the walls are and celebrate her know it's really hard to pre sides. and so i keep going. and because you find out tracks like that, you know, because you're in spite but they stories because i know to me dining about her makes me more excited to do the science that i do. i know say that when the wall blonds about her, you will have more young women or more young people or more parents. so more
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teachers will be excited about science. and i, i truly believe that, well, if we get some more scientists. and so i, i kind of just pull together as many citations as i can find. if i know that is a really exceptional pass and who isn't getting the credit they are due, then sometimes i nominate them for words. sometimes i write to john less and i'm like you've got to cover that story and because they're not, she just makes it easier to write them. or it could be a page in a few months or years and say something. sometimes it's a cycle, right? which a pdf if you're on with the pdf, it's easier to put you forward and nominate you for something or for a journalist to find your story. and if someone finds you a story, it's easier to put you on wikipedia. so sometimes you've got to go to break past cycle a little bit and, but yeah, i keep going because these people are exceptional that stories are inspiring to me and i want the whole world to find out about them raising. tell us about a person who i think does resonates with you or discovery when i say discovery, cuz the, the, the women are already out the, the,
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the people who are not often written about the already that but to have them have that moment to, to have that language receive, that allows to, to receive a certain amount of credibility, who, which is 10 i audience about today. so that's actually a really hard question cuz i've written more than 2000 file graffiti, think about women. but let me, i love your humble brag of rosie. 70000 pick one. so i'm, i guess i'm going to pick someone called samantha lariche. she's a comics writer and she's french and why i'm going to pick her over the others that i might have used is that i tend to focus on women writers. bradley construed. she is a comics creator. she writes, she's the artist. she's the ellis trader. and she may actually do the lettering as
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well. and her article was already written in the french with pdf me there she is. but there was no article in the english wikipedia. and so what i've been doing since about january of this year is a lot of translations from one language, mostly from french or spanish or tattling to english wikipedia. and i decided to focus on comics creators like kind of like why not it um that they should have their do i want my grand daughter who loves comics of various sorts to be able to say, hey, there's not just these men's names or women's names that are americans, there's comics writers who live in argentina and live in france and live in spain. and maybe this will give her an idea that this is something she wants to do when she gets older. so that's what i'm going to pick. samantha lariche,
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i love that here. i'm gonna give you a little moment to have a think about how you would like to pay. but 1st we spoke to all the editors of like a pdf pages to awesome how challenging it was to do the what does that doing? which is expands the number of women not just editing but also i think chad, this is what they told us. what is the biggest challenges in writing about women for we could p a is the way that women's contributions have been systematically downplayed and excluded from the historical record. making, writing a reliable and accurate encyclopedia entry about them, often impossible. we don't have enough female editors to write and we keep video, we suffer of a deep gender got problem in, in the community. the main challenge for me and is read to me in nebraska is to one to spend. what is a notable right friends in the ever sense rig versus african perspective? because all of these mainstream outlets or are not telling our
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stories or when they are telling them they are not telling them in a right perspective. oh, sure it's hot. what you do is really hot. so would you like to just? yeah, go ahead, go ahead. yeah, no, it is, but it's exciting more because i feel like the, the work that we're doing is directly impactful. and so to answer your previous question, there's a couple names that i love to up the list. so our companies, and actually as i'm reading your 10 this year, which is very exciting. and we had our a 10 year celebration in houston uh, in april, actually. and so, um, one of the names i want to uplift from that is the r organizer there adjacent oliver. he has a story of how he went to a top and realize that i'll be award. i don't have a page, she's the 1st black ph. d, in our history from the university of texas,
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actually secure aid or at the fine arts in houston. and she wants to talk real. i shouldn't have a page went home, be one, and then was able to, to tell her about it in person, which was like a very special moment. another page that was created. i don't remember the, that is our i key. i'm sorry, a lot here as the me, i'm a the, i'm sorry, i'm just saying it all wrong. and they are a non binary, nigerian fiction writer and video artist. and so their page was created actually by one of the co founders of our company is an app and event. we have the museum of modern art, and that page has really expanded over time, which is also really exciting to kind of see a page that may have started out in our family, some of that. and then really grown over time. there's also been something that's really exciting to be a part of. i'm gonna bring it and i can i. yeah, please go ahead. they'll just say that the most amazing thing is the same. people
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respond to the pages like, not just people who read them cuz you can get wikipedia gives you access to all the information. so you can actually see how many page fees there are. if you look at the articles, every single hour, you know is quite extraordinary. and producer how to kind of go to weld responds to them, and that's an amazing mathematician that i wrote about. cool job as west and she's, she was born in virginia. she went to a historically college and university study math. she works in the high school for a little bit before during the calculations that enabled gps. so drive us west, made it possible for us to use satellite navigation in google maps and apple maps and everything like that that was grab a swift mess. let that happen. and how we can see the page on wikipedia. it's been translated into a bunch of languages and, but she's one of these huge awards. you know, she's over 90 now. and she's, she's one and principal at midland price from the royal academy of engineering. and that's have been given to
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a woman before and the entire history of the prize choosing doctor to the us as so sort of fame. she was one of the bbc's top 100 women in the world. and it's, it's not because it's not because she's just done something remarkable. it's because the world's just non, she's done something remarkable. you know, because that story is on a platform, on an encyclopaedia that is trusted and used by everyone. because this place is the central goes to place the information, irrespective of your political background, irrespective of what you do as a profession, irrespective of your age or your national and see if you're on his own wikipedia. so if we make sure the stories a hair, if we make sure that we toe and credit women with that discoveries, you happen to have massive impacts. now what we're doing is dual editing with a pedia. but really, and i'm seeing 3 digital historians who are making sure that history is being recorded properly and with gender equity, i'm going to bringing one more week, a pedia page,
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and that is julietta left to go at williams. i'm just reading on wikipedia, journalist, an entrepreneur. she spoke to us earlier about what it means to be on with a pdf and there's a box. let's have a nice so let's have a look. sort of giggled to myself quietly. there was no one else around. and then the 2nd bill that i had was of this is really gonna impress my kids. and of course, that made me happy. but immediately after i felt a little sad because it was yet another reminder that women often have to be the ones we need. that if we want to have the recognition, if we want to have our work celebrated, if we want to gain any status for the work that we have already been doing, we are the ones that have to show up for ourselves. and so of course, i'm busy, we're all busy doing the work that we're supposed to be doing. and it would be amazing to count on just a plurality of people who contribute to wikipedia, to lift up the voices of people,
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especially women who are doing the work. so i guess i've got 30 seconds left for each. if you in the next 10 years or so, rosie, we've got 90 percent of biographies who are women features on wikipedia. when will that be 50 percent? i don't know that it's separate and they get to 50 percent women in red. it was co founded by a man and a woman and what makes our organization different is that we don't care what age gender is. so this is a societal problem that we have so many fewer biographies about women. and we believe that all genders are welcome and encouraged to create these articles about these notable women missing these articles. now, thanks are so much raise my push. i really appreciate that. talk to jess. what's the next week? repeating a page that you're going to publish. the out then what does it give us
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a quote on that sheet? oh, okay, fantastic. yeah, sure i'm, i'm, i'm working through some pages of people who became sellers and members of the american association for the advancement of science, and they're actually pretty great and celebrating women. and i'm ready. um, fantastic, excited about writing that stories out. so i'll be working through that. thank you . talk to jazz. thank you, kara. thank you, rosie, as well for, for being the digital historians, making sure the women are featured on wikipedia, one of the wells top websites. thanks so much and i'll see you next time. take care of the
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