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agrees that under certain circumstances, rules can be shots, especially if they are known to a tech sheep regularly. but some politicians want to go further. this is what the bavarian lead a sack lunch um and tv, these exquisite guns. i want to make this very clear. i will have no place here. he's as the future of farming is at stake. it was not cold. the o. p in parliament recently adopted a resolution to downgrade the walls protection status to help pharmacy. but you environment minnesota said the block should do more to protect the animals. hunters in germany are urging politicians to make a decision. before people stop taking the law into their own hands. they're also concerned that humans could be next verse. it couldn't happen. schultz wolves, or smart creatures. over centuries, they went through natural selection based on their intelligence, which ones that makes it difficult to protect cattle against them. but on the other hand, their intelligence means they understand that if we kill one member of the pack, they will quickly learn their lesson. it's only one of the possible solutions to
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maintaining a balance between humans and wildlife. a balance that's currently on the threat. step 5, some l g 0 in lowest sex any the just a quick look at made stories now and 400 people have died thousands of missing off to one of the democratic republic of congo as was natural disasters in recent history and type villages have been washed away in flash floods and land slides in the east. catherine, so it has moved from gama. with that situation in the south too. who is very desperate indeed, we have been speaking to a was with say that they have no equipment. they have no way to help people. we have been speaking to relatives and people who are just trying to help are they are using the hon. dig through the model. they're using equipment
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like, you know, that they have to do what they can representatives from citizens warring sides holding another day of talks in saudi arabia. but while delegates from the army in the pilot 3 rapids support forces means in gender. fighting continues in hard to, they said we'll discuss only a humanitarian truth, not an end to the conflict because i'm home. it has the boxes, the african union spokesman on sit down in hopes that it would be some progress from these talks. we, we hop at that this topic relieved that very quickly to assess fire and opening of the, or possibly monitor the call either to being his foot and other means for the population which is really in need. this cannot be postponed for longer. a deadly heat wave is sweeping parts of southeast asia, with schools in the philippines joining hours and reintroducing remote learning
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because of the high temperatures died on vietnam allows and the philippines of all experienced temperatures into the mid forties have more information on all those stories on our website out of their adult calm is why need to go? the stream is coming out next asking why childless are risk in the saw her wage. and i'll see you later. i a one year of defense for now does the return the city, nevada, the short deadline is really signed most reporting in the occupied where we looked at the international outrage of how much and to find for justice and accountability . if i have family in special coverage this week on alger 0, the there was any. okay, thank you for watching the screen. me this is well press. stay on to mark this
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special day. let me look at the what the journey to around the world. we're going to focus in on the challenges of joining us for trying to cover the whole region of taken the what is it like to be a journalist in this the how that is the question that we are asking or does i guess they will be on a way and if you are watching online on twitter, on youtube,
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please check your comments as well with us from 9 am a investigative journalist david them by joining us to discuss from washington dc, the director of the west africa bureau for a port is without board as sort of boom, all wrong. and joining us from the cause. mindy allied senior research of with amnesty international gentlemen. it is really good to have you here. we're talking about the challenges of jenny's and coming out of the as to how region. but also how you faced those challenges down so the reporting doesn't stop, so we don't have no news zone part of africa. i'll set it up for us without voters, you call this area a no news, then why is that it is absolutely no no tone when for example, ready to go pick body which is dried now i'm in divided into to 2 pods. the northern part on the southern part, the northern part is uh, quite limited in terms of access, in terms of developing those terms of collecting information, developing it,
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and the, and it, and, and disseminating it. when you go to the, to the neighboring countries book and absolutely, that's the same. all right, we have been talking or those countries meeting journalist working there. and when they have told us it's clear, it's quite difficult for us to go and report independently before be on it to keep them at of example, from what, why the do and the it could have made this or whether it's a part of the city. what is called car? yeah, it's quite difficult because i'm there was a good day. i knew it was waiting for them and me to, to, to move it to the security forces or so are there on the risk, is when you our quote by tablets book, you're going to be a good, a good target. but when we to, to these, to you and i'm got you or so you're going to be considered as an enemy of the nation. you might be tried, you might, you're going to be persecuted. you're going to be a sense to joe is quite supplementing and the suggestion is the modem is the same
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when we go to new shape or a bit of, of, of been in the, in another part of been a way of, for example, accessing the going your own product, which is another part of the been in the bigger city of been in, is, is funded by the communities on behalf of nothing on top of nothing. it's going to be the same as, as we go i for to go and try to is of so, right? yes, i think the, if you look at the situation in this, i have heard the will, has the pretty word summarize that. i think the independence of general is up to risk because of there's many to retake over by the given month in which john and his has been under pressure to report and our chief of the conversation, but also about 40 to go situations. which definitely contradict is the established narrative of the government. we have seen the invoking of fossil wedge on any such as mean the total weight and the ottoman newton. barry has been intimidated, intimidated online, but also offline duty. and they're reporting about the country,
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but also in money. well, recently we have had cases of doing released, but also what activities to be abducted by the entities and services 4 days a times subjected to treatment and torture. and this has led to this constitute a risk, a possibility of no gold zone in this countries because due to the that they are your age and conditions and during the rest will be tempted to serve sense or even to leave this country in order to protect their physical integration, what is so disturbing is that you've got to you, but he's, excuse me, started when you say this with it's so matter of fact it's not some joint and they say it's just joined this. but the threat, the risk for joining us seem to be across the entire region. i want to give an example of monique, who was reporting for molly, had to flee from molly. and then he's now back in molly, talking about,
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well press freedom day from a, from the position of experience. david, i want you to listen to the next experience and then tell us about how you have been in a situation where you were also very concerned about your safety piece. malik festival mendez like this on by farms. 8 is the team. i've been a victim of assaults at my office. at the end of july 2022. we brought forward complaints. we alerted the authorities, but nothing was done. in the face of this to preserve our security, our integrity, we all decided to leave the country and go to a neighboring country to get shelter. be in security to continue our jobs. like i said, a journalist, a good journalist, is one that's a live with full liberty. the reason for which we decided to give ourselves that liberty and security to be able to continue to do our work. david, i'm just thinking here the time when you were covering a story, when you,
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what most afraid to be doing the story is an investigative journalist. what story was that? yes, so i work on so many topics concerning television, for example. uh, did the across the board to a copy uh on the border between monday and media. uh, did you have a original in the middle? uh it's was uh, 2 years ago. uh, it was many, many attendance is supposedly to, to 12 of, you know, if you have to proven in the north of the company. uh, like, uh, i mean i caught unit to get, get ready for that. you need to too much everything to be like a citizen, the, uh you will need to change your address. you need to to, to get the, uh,
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it right. contacts on the ground in the unit to cover your head and to be able to look like before the in the this is the, this thing. so you sure do firstly before we leave. so i was working on the top piece with my colleague access for media. so it was a, uh, a very dangerous uh, topic for us. so it was death to, to see how people uh, surviving against a dental resume attacks. and how territories in groups did uh, uh, how do we to, to talk to people always then, you know, go and look there. so people think the of the loan and they don't have the support from government. so that's why is it they sometimes they, they, they, they manage to,
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to photo terrorism gross in the graph. and so it is not easy. it wasn't easy for us to, to work on this on this topic. so about everything was okay for us in the way it was, it was to they are approaching on terrorism is especially hard in money and in bulk, enough i so as you know, uh there has been admitted to retake of woods. uh and uh, by governments that has promises changes in the security landscape. and in this context of the database that has pointed out, the situation is american region. and to that very is one where it's let me state is this, i have is a print. i mean, that's all macbooks and has launched a phone saved since march 2022 and reporting about that situation. he's very much under the scrutiny of the government of money and that's sort of the government of book, you know, for us. and i just want to remind you of the case of the journalist the will usually do well with just the freed up 2 months ago. i think when he was abducted
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for almost 2 years, when he was doing a report on the spread of the group for the support of uses, i mean within the gal will region. so those are clear insight on vendors for somebody to get by the, by the joys in the region. i've got to bring up a yes. yeah. go ahead. i wanted to highlight to think of so in terms of the kids and i think it's good. nothing is a risk of us to put you on the list. we use it. i mean, i was wants to add, i mean, because of it was ok, but the i'm, so i put in money to other cases, which i'm going to do. cool. and then i'm doing that. so they have, they want the missing sense of 2 years now and the club and literally jumped to the ad building, nothing for them. and this is for so absolutely. i absolutely both for, for it for, for the journalist themselves. and for the apartment is no one know if they are still alive, or if they are, they have been killed. we everyone know that. i mean, these people, these to join them if they have been given up by uh, by,
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i'm the groups with into nowadays. no. and for, for the, for the, for the, for the government, for the, from describing the and the other thing is when you, when you are reporting why they ask their reading the countries most of the time fighting by the, i'm totally so cool that also dealing with a lot of human rights violations, including giddings, of women, including giddings, of elderly people, including kidding, of every whatever. and then they don't want that to be called what independent police report the bye bye bye bye. did meet this. so one of the key problem, the terms of see, think they want or join on this rule for a lot of information and to step to be in accordance with the narrative themselves . they wanted to some of the what does the quite a brand there. it doesn't affect the brightness of john and yeah, yeah, yeah. let me take the mattress to, to get uh, a quick point about yes. okay. uh, in money in book, you know, 1st of all we have seen given once coding june or the summoning them into was the
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ministry of communications and exulting them to a bunch of the treatment of information. and that shows is a kind of a pressure that is doing it is have faith, the stories about countries, and you're not truly pass through, i'll take, which is not that it's, that's not doing this one. i want a tool to an image, just bring it. i know, you know, i live at the boss story, but i was just, may well be thinking if this are, is a dangerous how and of doesn't jonas get themselves into a situation where they are kidnapped? this is how i live at the law. explain what happened to him in molly, let's have a listen. utility nancy on april 8th 2021, and then i left out to do an interview with a group of militants and i was getting our 323 months later the idea of interviewing these militants came about in november 2020. it took about 4 or 5 months until a letter of invitation sealed the deal. it made me go to gal. initially, it was out of the question for me to go to golfing it yourself. it had to be done over the phone,
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but he explained in one of your responses that he does not do interviews over the phone. so he doesn't trust the phone. so if i wanted to interview him, i would have to go to dallas. and in the end, because i had insurance is because i trusted my 6 or my contract. i went to go and i was getting it was too generous to about the dangerous and the risk that they face. let me start, we started move because you report us without frontiers without borders. put out a report just recently about this, the whole region, the dangerous what the threat stop or also how you cope with that as a journalist. so what do you do? as we spoke, we spoke doing the duty uh, the preparation of the 30 part, you know, many countries in the seattle with manage, obviously including international journalists, including also some of the fixes and they have been expanding for example of what is some local journalist and then for some safety and security reasons, they, they,
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they will refraining from going outside of the capital city or into the more area for the 14. because for example, when you in some cons, because i'm like looking at for so i'm the we will to so show you what is a shown that i think the dimension of id cards in some countries in the dimension of a profession is not there. but the input can help us, so we someone score this showed us his, his id card. they did it profession journalists. and if you're not a profession, john, as a broker, some of journalists really got an a bit boss, a traveling, for example, from the super i'm the some prevents to decide the reason you might be a stop, the best buy be stopped for the quote controlled by on those who are alongside the route and they enter the base, they control who, who is, who here when he was, they see the other journalist they say okay, um uh yes, get out get out of the best and with foot 4 foot foot for us here. and the best way
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to go go, we'll go without you. i mean these are some of the risk, utah? yes. yeah. and so what, what is also interesting is also to passivity for some of them to develop the kind of mic woke affiliates, for example, covering the carpeting the northern part is also as a different thing, some subject interesting side. and you, for example, the direct some, some sauce is welcome associates from the purely moderately, don't those people, if what's up or the social network available, those people could, there is something an attack. they can just be lied to the lot. they can just send the information in a very, as a rush, and then send it to another. now the source is who will send it to the, to another associate who will send it to another contact and who will send to that, to the, to the it done and, and then the stuff into the thing about the networks of virginia to san diego. i was just to, i wanted to point out also the fragility of the scenario, communications concerts that exist in money and in book, you know, flexible and often that has been, uh, uh, the actors, uh,
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someone in jo. notice and asking them about their $83.00 a told about the report. let me just when they use the case. yeah, just as many of them funny at the head i do in the what the hell do of duty, but the v in october for what someone by yeah, the higher communications concept in mind and as a box, it's reporting on pretty good transitions during his weekly show, and that is a problem because those, the actors shouldn't be the one protecting donor this and then one of the things and networks of reason. yes, but not exposing them to the a wins of the other week. what about judgment? the perpetrator has the root causes of why joiner isn't is so difficult, not just dangerous, but just very, very challenging. anyone we spoke to professor from utrecht university, have a listen to this study booth, and then tell me how to get around the circumstances the professor festival 1st of who could say uh, really sort of government in,
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in molly versus trying to paint it was pitch about its old price and since a general way to attend, to polling 2021. now obviously generally speaking, well, pause to this narrative, what critical they are talking to. and the last thing of course is also the width of the russian part of me retarded. we are the one a group of a little this group has to be not used. also, especially among local general is oh, for silencing defense or jealous. well, pause to years old price sions. and how you doing journalism in a situation like this sort of a, this is, i'm amazed that anybody is doing any stories, but that's the whole point, isn't. it's a chilling effect. it is a really tutoring effect. and then a mix of denture from it for a problem some edited from the author. we decide the agenda side off from the other
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side was which is uh from some type of. so the westland group reaches prism in body and in some parts, and from, from, from, from, from, i'm from time to time in book enough for so in a bound to watch the groups. i mean, the, the thing is that the novelty of the control of the, not a chief of the, you know, of the why. and also the development of in kind of n, t and tie french's speech. they are extremely, very good, very, very powerful on that. starting in body for example, where from time to time you can see i'm in a kind of echo system of, of, of people who are pro genta and who are against the friendship people who are also against the journalist, prince a journalist, what have been in my and home now have old old old being relocated from the country to another to another contract in the car, or like in the shaft for the safety. and this is also extremely important for the safety they. they have no means no way to stay the 4040 can't otherwise they
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shouldn't be the one of the in a month is that the drug know roots and the new partnerships that have been develop, advise you money and given month includes a dime, mention about communications so it's not only a joint patrol by a runner and as a military. and so i'm showing money involved. so they would have been communication strategies, income things. we have seen that being developed in the, in the, in the, in the, in money over the last year. but also like from towards being developed a to, to, to complains uh, the aims of this information in money. and that targets sometimes don't really sometimes $100.00. sometimes people need to go to reduce which is interesting because we, we've got connectivity issues with david and we've got like issues with those. when visa every day challenges the journalist across the us can confident they often
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have to face. but in this a whole region that just adds a layer of difficulty. why is it so important that journalist organizations to support janice, they really draw attention to why it's so difficult to report from this a how. this is angela. she spoke just a little bit earlier and she explains it in less than a minute. she has if you, you kept in the dock and you're unable to make informed decisions based on, on accurate and critical information from a variety of sources. not a more likely to be manipulated to be said propaganda lies, especially by those who help bent on staining power into one censorship. look, it's a really a case of you have the right to know and to have the mind of your own. and for that to be successful, a free to with this take, an independent media is essential. so much bigger than just trying to get the story
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out as an impact. and just said if you catch in the dunk, i meant he was an adult momentarily. it was one pick up for there's a i, yes, i think the issue has raised a very sort of point about the right information, which is up to the state in money in the book, you know, for. so this is a, along the freedom of expression in the press freedoms, the right information of citizens is that state differently due to the conflicting narratives about the, the trajectory of the transitions. if you look at the, for example, if a mouse explosions of a heavy, the listen to and read a french media houses such as all your points, i don't, that's good, not enforcement get. what was a state? was these medias independence about tony a report about you come shrieked, which sometimes contributed to the government and which was that appreciated. i just want to give the example of the case of the already being the woman, the 52 women that were of the, to just outside of the tone of i mean that in book,
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you know, for in january because they were connecting the wind for because those that seem to has been under. busy siege my i'm a good seems to last summer and because the false event got talked about that situation and the fact that. busy objected by do you had this? uh what followed was the explosion of this whole. so when get a group uh from booking are flexible because they've given you. yeah. for sheets of narrative. yeah, absolutely. let me just very quickly show our organs how false 24 responded to being pushed out of aquino facet because they no longer able to be seen in between of 5. so let me just show you very quickly. let's play this guys cuz we don't have a much time left in our in our program. this is how fonts run cap, responded to that pressure in the they all doing journalism. they're not going to be pushed out. but this is again, one of the dangers the rest of the day in journalism, in an area that doesn't want to journalism
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a tool. and it goes very quickly to youtube, because on youtube, we've had some thoughts from our audience thought about and just very quickly, one of our view is he's saying this isn't a no news though. this is a secret so difficult to get information out. and then broad, he's watching had some suggestions for journalists about, well, maybe they need to protect themselves better. they should be equipment for the cameras. is even suggesting strong guns at a minimum. but that means that you'll join us as a going to war in order just to tell news and tell the story, sort of what would be the final thoughts, the so news organizations journalists are trying to get news out of this a health region for how they take care of themselves and that colleagues us. yeah, we have, we have advised them to comment it in. and then in that report, like we have done a lot of the commendation on one of them, for example, towards the media media organizations on need a news from sources. for example, if they want to use the, i mean,
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they still have to ride to go reporting because that's not really really, really bond. but it is, it is because of the government out around under the safety, just policies they can't access. but in case they, they have to passivity. they, they have to, they, they should develop the protocol to set a parental safety and security protocol in the new storms. the, the government says they've done to them from, from before going to, going to the board. they needs to be what very well equipped and good with it, such as the we have lives. that's a good place to stuff. they've been very well equipped and very well prepared. we are more pat dentist and move to that. now, from having had this episode of the stream side of the postman and david who we had on earlier, thank you so much for being part of today's program. may the 3rd as well as press stay. we wish one of the journalists around the world trying to tackle difficult stories. every success likes watching us the next time the,
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