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ministry so powerful. how could this of chief it? this is inside story. the hello that i'm nora. kyle, thailand's opposition has won the general elections by a landslide. but the question now is whether the military lead will that govern the leader of the move forward policy is ready to be the next prime minister. but 1st, pizza live in general and rights must form a coalition that can overcome the minute tree appointed senate. he must win a majority of seats on the upper and lower houses of parliament to form the next government and push ahead. with big reforms promised on the campaign trail will explode these issues with all guests in a moment. but 1st,

this report from castillo pest hold the voters in thailand have overwhelmingly backed the opposition, projecting years a status quote and government. now the head of the progressive move forward party could be the country's newsletter. i am ready to be the prime minister for all whether you agree with me or you disagree with me. but for that to happen, there's yet another political hurdle, a major block into send it is appointed by the military. and it also gets to say on who becomes prime minister and who leads any new government. the opposition has a newly formed coalition, most notably with the few type party, the alliance. ms. nell strike a deal to wind over some of these don't affect politicians. the frustration has been brewing in thailand. well, before the election, thousands of protests broke out in 2020,

with demonstrators openly criticizing the monarchy and amending prime minister. try use tunnel, just step down. now, the general who left the country after seizing power in a 2014 military coup has acknowledged this defeat. good indeed. and from now it's about a transition in the formation of a government. we've got an all ties. i should love each other and i'm in be united for the country without conflict. us with it. it's hot. thailand is the 2nd largest economy in south east asia after indonesia rising inflation and the huge boat played a major role in the election results for double bonds. we were all hoping the government would move the economy forward right now to earn even $10.00 is challenging. if i sell coffee for half a day, the economy is bad. i feel the election results carry a new meaning that could bring about even more changes. i hope the good things will be happening in thailand with a political shift in politics,

thailand was now wait to see if a new government will also reflect a new direction cuts you a little bit. so the young for insights story so okay, well let's get into the discussion now and join the i'll guess, oh, from find called hard watch. arrestin is policy come, pay manager for the move forward policy and an m. p. lex. and the type government punch of the 31, a boot as a specialist and type politics and associate professor at my adult university. i'm showing the impact on is a political analyst and format, national security adviser to them. the problem is that getting lot shouldn't be, i'm not sure of what i would welcome to all of you. all right, what's the address in? first of all, congratulations on your when it has sent shock waves through thailand. how are you feeling about that? yeah, thank you. very much, i think the lecture results,

but actually even beyond i will go into the exploitation setting and what it demonstrates is a creative mind for change that the time people want to see maybe little beyond just the results of move forward potty. you realize that that only 2 parties that were able to get more than a 100 seats and 42 parties that they were able to get support for more than 10 minutes voters. and that is more thought potty and good type party, both of whom. well, in the opposition side of the political spectrum over the past 4 years. so i think want to demonstrate is a clear, do you mind for change from the time people right now? i think what we are trying to do is to push ahead to form a government that can push trudy's progressive reforms across both political and economic and social issues. then we'll look at just how easy or difficult that's going to be in just a moment. so on the 1st time, what time it may have come seconds in the selection, but it's the 1st time that it's lost. the popular vote says the should've what

tennessee lost its shine. well, i would like to caution this if i want to congratulate a good night for his party victory. but in terms of uh, in terms of numbers, all of the district in piece was right. close a 113200 then. wow. but yes or potty list the most our potty leads the tie by substantial margin. but both of us, both of all parties, both of the high and kind of guy have been an allied. we may have some differences, but we also want to move the country forward. and put, i want to work with a gives the top guy and we have to offer you a chance to form the government and we will refrain from, from doing anything beyond what you say political courtesy and wait for

that. however, we also know that we've all coalition with the time of move forward only has $310.00 volts in order to be a prime minister. it required 3 and it was 76, mo, uh for the steps we have to go through before that date. that's a, that's a little time table. here. you see has a certified around in 60 days. uh for the for, for mission we saw. then there's a process to let the house speaker the next would be the prime minister. and so far will forward has to work hard to recruit members or even appeals to a point of center the for of the prime minister. okay,

well as oscar punch of the weather, she thinks that this can be achieved. can this coalition little more people to join it to reach the magic 376 number, whereby it can easily form its own government and choose its own leader to well, uh, well, uh, 1st off, east bed. good evening, sir, in bangkok and congratulations who couldn't period. well, you notice uh, a lot of, uh, a lot of criticisms on this because you know, everyone who worked for move forward pretty than one move forward to farm to college and government and to become the prime minister. the party leaders of both i was suppose to be the prime minister. but so far, i think is certainly very difficult time because you know, i in thailand in other media try now the senate are, you know, a lot of senator has already given our interview for a lot of media that day. we would not board, you know, to support, move forward to become the prime minister and also to find the coordination government. so at this time, you know,

event or foot high is talking about agree that they would support move our to from the college and government. but as still, you know, not guarantee it whether or not move forward can 5 or 376 as the earlier speaker have to say, 376 is a really important number and that move, i would have to fight for it. and so far it seems like move forward, you know, kind of our expect to send that you know, to award to support them. which is for me, i think is a bit difficult and you know, we have, we have to wait and see whether or not move forward can form the coordination. and you know, to pause to nominate the prime minister of it, the $376.00 seats. okay. so far as we've heard from the move forward, policy need to be to live in general and right, he's almost dead the senate to define the vote outcome to defy the people as well. but as poncho does says a is, is an unrealistic request to get this military, but number of members in the senate to switch allegiances to i don't think

it's, i'm an unrealistic a request. i mean, be always reiterate that, you know, giving an, a military a point to a senate, the power to board for prime ministers, undemocratic in nature. do you got 2 important numbers to bear in mind? the 1st one is a part of the treatment 76, which is basically the 50 percent of the joint houses upon them and to get elected prime minister. but the 2nd number is 250, which is actually the pocket flashing managing government. because once you find the government, um, any boat on laws, any boats under budget anymore, so no confidence actually deciding both understand that. so in that sense, even though the $0.25 is going to be a relatively block, a prime minister that demands the majority of the lower house in the vote for the prime minister. but i don't see the point of doing that because he, they pop up any parameters that ability to mind. a minority of the lower house that prime minister,

wherever he or she may be going to actually go up and cannot pass any bill is going to pass and you're a bunch of and we'll get put down a no contract state way. but i think it's a speaking numbers, right. how do we get to that 376? i mean, right now, the set of parties that we are trying to bomb collision with gets us to about 3 and 3 written 10. the question is, why is the other 60 gonna come from getting to sauces or the 1st or is it actually definitive? because we see the logs that says we came out and sold against voting for a move bullet. prime minister do not represent the viewpoint of all senators and we have when they've actually passed recently, is today we are seeing more and more citizens coming out saying that they will, they will back move forward black police or not because they particularly like or what but because they want to abide by democratic rule was that they should support a set of potties that can all government to come on more than half the lower house . and the 2nd stuff is the parties actually found the other parties are not in the coalition. but given this special circumstance, they might respectfully vote for

a move forward that coalition, even though they will not be public go and just to know block out. um the issue of the send it to is blocking um, uh the, the majority company. okay. so the part is, is expressing some optimism that the policy can move forward and unfold. the government was like questioning why the military would push a weekly the in place in charge of a minority government. but from your experience with, with high policy, this has happened before having it back in 2019 plus high one. again, the middle, the popular vote, but didn't get to rule the country, power of counter was put in place by the ministry. i see this peculiar already of this constitution. it was written to retain the advantage of the military incumbent. and therefore, in order for the tools the country forward has to be some sort of compromised among

the appointed senators. and like good parents say that they have made some gestures to keep the country moving forward. i really wouldn't lose that much. all we have to take a little bit of step each time and the mood of the countries in the news. to me, the senate is it seems a little bit of a loading dock. they have one year left to go. and if i move forward, talk to them nicely, they could produce the resolve. it can be surprising, but then we are in a situation that is kind of unknown, unknown here. i don't want to go on to live, just say to move forward with succeed. but this is a situation where we are, we have 60 days, uh for this to happen. there's plenty all maneuvering in type politics. that's a lot of dark arcs. how happened all the time that it has been

a substantial under underneath the table moving, but this is what you see has to certify this and of all for the near future. nobody knows. but let's hope that move forward could. so i'm going to drop them in as students since a one to a pencil the, let's look at the election commission as shown as that is me. it's a has 60 days to specify the results. now it's worth mentioning, isn't it the, the election commission is part. busy the establishment, powerful, conservative establishment, which controls largely at the courts, the election commission and has many tools that is disposal to retain the states as quote. so what's of a tom says that the election commission is actually going to testify this results? well, i think, you know, a lot of people are criticized election the election commission. so thailand, since the 2019 election and also it is election as well. but you know, that's um,

that's how these i think these time is a lot a bit live a bit heard that last election because you know, a lot of people and you know, social media and online media try being to of sort how the election commission is handled this elections and you know, that this time, you know, the election permissions trying to, i think that of you call long the waiting and now the result of the election these time. so he's going to take 60 days and after that, you know, is the time that you get, we can see the coordination of problem. and um, even though people in thailand, especially the younger generation, you know, be involved in the politics like these and keep moving this uh, you know, and to be fi, you fi fi out, who's going to be the coordination of column and it will help to also call the election commission and the situation and, you know, you investigated, you know, anything that might do wrong if the election information as well part. there was a big reforms on the move forward agenda. what are your priorities the i think let

me just come back to your previous question, laura, just to kind of find, give you kind of to most thoughts as a quote. the 1st one is that the situation is quite different to 2019 and um to cover the electron because this time around um, move forward a good time together. um, would you add the numbers together for more than half the m p 's in the lower house? this was not the case back in 2019 percent allowed. incentive to have an excuse to vote and retain general for you. so this time is slightly different. and the 2nd stock of information is i actually have cost the past 3 years that have been at least $0.60 is who voted. i'm in agreement with um i bought a showing the power to bought for who becomes prime minister even though that didn't pass it up. wasn't the majority of the percentages, but they were at least 60 who were in favor or at least 4 in opposed to to them having this power to electronic elect who becomes prime minister. so a whole lot of these $0.60 is also between what they had voted from previously as well. um, do you have questions on our agenda and you'd be have 300 policies or be introduced

and communicated with the voters before the election. so meet on costs and of course and copeland that will have to be the conversations about how much that is in line with the other coalition parties. but as a lot of positive then we would try to push ahead as many of our policy as possible as a joint agenda for the government. and that includes things like democracy, station, it goes, things i did try station, it includes our agenda to the centralized power to local governments, to reduce any parties to an expansion of low pass state, as well as the reforms of the education system and the civil service so i mean that all the parts in, um, anything right now is the situation that were in conversations we had the coalition partners about a want to be, it's showing the gender of the, of the coalition government. okay. showing the militarize ation is the minute tray and thailand ready to relinquish power. and well, apparently this is the joint policy platform of both to try and

move forward is to make uh, they're gonna try to get rid of the draft so it would be volunteer. army just like united state. um um, what did i have her do stopped uh, couldn't to todd, be hateful. of go guy one to take over. uh to keep ministry. one of them is the ministry of defense and the education and part of the supplemental go reform is to, to push to this uh, volunteer army. but i want to find out that uh for the issue concerning the nation is, is, is more than just, just uh, reform alone. but the economic malays, that thailand face for the past 8 years, the last 2 years, specially with the cobra. i, people in really,

really bad shape. and this call a new coalition government model must foot focused on economic priority as they put a tie has put forward and not, not as much clearer. a saw. it may have to be you but, but we hope they could. uh, you know, put, put an, understand this, this priority. okay. uh, so, sorry, part of the, the economy. is that going to be a number one priority? i mean, the economy is, is a part of the price. so, i mean, if you're looking at what the policy is, i may have to respectfully disagree with the statement that we're not being clear on our current policies. i mean, we actually announced not just to bring the policy. so if we wanted to, to do a cost, i will forget to be also presented a $100.00. they wrote back what we would do in the 1st $100.00 days. and part of that would include economic initiatives, whether it's, you know, reducing electricity bill was whether it's um, introducing

a new program that allows for us. and we used to be able to compete mulkins to big businesses as well as increasing minimum wage to $450.00 per day. we didn't $500.00 days and then you know, amending the law to ensure that minimum wage rises automatically each year based on inflation and economic growth. so i think i have to respectfully disagree with the, with the assumption that move forward is potties agenda is not focused on on economic properties. i think what we're trying to say is that, you know, solving the economic issues as well as doing the necessary reforms on various political institutions and, and noticed it was. so it was an indication can be done in permanent. and that's what we do. okay, and i'm so many of those more detailed conversations will be happening over the coming days and weeks between these co and the potential coalition partners. um the punch of the i want to get back to this issue of the military because it's still, well, there's a lot of optimism today that it will relinquish pallet as really still know, sas and see i'm looking at history. it has

a huge amount of pilot in thailand. there's been many, many military crews and it's history when it hasn't gone the way the, the major we talk about demo tries ation. yes. removing the draft is one thing. but what about removing the minute treat from politics? is it ready to withdrawal the well, i think, you know, most of the political party and even, you know, the younger generation there. one, you know, the military to be out of the politics. but in practice at this time, i think it's a little bit hard because you know, they, they are supporting the conservative size and then to get them out from the middle . it from the politics. they should be, you know, released slow uh, uh, continuous process and i have to be take some time. and at this election, i think it's really clear that, you know, most of the people in thailand they don't military to be, you know, we serve our, you know, walking in the politics anymore. either we saw all the elections, you know, um, but to major problem military party has to be, you know,

they've been a lot a little numbers of boards and, you know, our department is started but you know, try seem to be, you know, stop working and stop to a stop be in the pony they've, as you can see today, you know, one of he's called tommy's. and now the, one of the former minister have pointed out that the, the apartment is the president. no child, maybe stop, you know, and to try to not, not, not going to be involved in politics anymore. but again, you know, we don't really know how it's going to be like. it does depend on how the coordination of government going to be. light is move forward, can really, it's for the coordination of government and p. tar. cannot be their private. it's the let the sector and political party who have high to go i to be, you know, the leading of the coordination of government and to become, you know, the prime minister. that's a 2nd option that a lot of people are talking about it that the look hi, my job, the other problem military, political parties of the language i read party to solve the coordination of

government. and so then at this time i think foot height is a really important factor because they cannot really die. people follow to form a coalition government and i hope is going to happen. but if not, that's another option that put hardwood floor, but not the limited by the political parties. so, and what does the tons of that happening, but for a time will a band and then move forward policy and join the pro pro ministry policies. today they put tight body has come out and said they would play by their political rule, which allows move forward to be the 1st to to form this government . and then without, without using the to $1.00 cost, meaning the military parties involved. and i have to be, i have to abide by that reasoning. but of course that's always a lot of scenario. a lot of things can happen in 60 days before the big house,

the 1st session that could be a lot of little political maneuvering. and if the senate rejected or if move forward, got sure number is for some reason they go to region to get so called 60 possible independent senators not to sign with them. this is such a non well known future that i can accommodate upon. yeah, in thailand, being a, uh, a difficult situation politically for a long, long time in terms of not having a constitutional election. so all side are watching each other very, very well and, and we have to see what really, what happened. but cuz i want it by the rules. okay. i had it to a major part of move for policies come pain. agenda was a promise to amends, a sense of less than just

a nose pizza is already vowed to go ahead with that. is he the worries that he's gonna suffer the same faces the future for found to be charged on the section $11212.00, which of course charges on the criticism of the monarchy a yeah, so i mean, i will reconfirm the amending a multiple 112 is one of our 300 policy, so we will push ahead. i think we are not afraid that that will put us in a position by our leader will be charged with actually 112. because we know that what we are doing is a proposal to a man, a law in the criminal code, which is something that is, it's normal to do anything. we've been very clear with the public about which you know which problem. so we want to fix and how we want to amend the law. i believe we will not be able to the party as well in the parliament that will support amendment of this law. so we will get,

if you will not be isolated in the industry under a punch or the will even talking about less than just a little of is a huge change in thailand. from a few years ago, the country is really undergoing massive change and it's got about to enter a big period of uncertainty. isn't that as well? i think, you know, at this time because of the move followed by the election i think is going to be a lot of change. but do you know the process to change all these aspects of the, the article 112 is really difficult even though the move forward can, you know, submit this to the, probably a men because they have enough number. but you know, that's another process to go through and know, so it has to be approved by the senate as well. so then, you know, i think it's a bit difficult to change these ones. well, article, even though you know that one that amended and not every winding tyler, especially the young generation that has been requested as far as letting you know tom. but i think we have to wait and see whether you know,

how this going to be happen. and how move forward go into a meant and how these go into either political party, whether or not they can support move forward or changing this article 112. absolutely, i believe will be revisiting the story a 5 bit over the next 60 days. the next couple of months, many things today to our guests for joining us for a very interesting discussion. parent watch arrestin. punter, the $31.00, a boot and shown. then press on. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website that's out there at dot com, the discussions you guys, well facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter and live at a inside story from me laura kyle, i'm the whole team here is bye for now. the, the

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