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is the 1st fish we're going to pack this for a rather complex eco system and really see how it, how it changes over time, and how it stabilizes. if the mon garden experiment works, mars gardens will be next can lift off a star. and while now, so appears to lead the race tomorrow at the moment. china and space x also have their ambitions assigned to say, whoever wins will take one home for human. kind heidi, joe castro out to 0 washington. the is, he's out this here and these are the top stories. now. china is the present. she's been paying is hosting a summit with the leaders of 5 central asian nations. it coincides with a g 7 meeting with vast economies being held in japan. jessica washington has more from sheer usually important, not only for china of a central asia as well as the 1st of its kind is happening here in c on
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a very symbolic location is a starting point for the silk road, the historical trade route that went through central asia, so the summit is very much in line with a theme that we've seen in china is diplomacy of trying to strengthen its diplomatic ties with central asia. we saw just a few months ago. that's presidency. jean pence 1st, international trip. as since the pandemic was the cause like sense and then a few days later in the 2nd son, the head of echo those imagery has will and that these forces will act family of protests 1100 percent. the animal last so has dissolved the national assembly, which was considering whether to impeach him on corruption charges. security forces had been deployed outside the apartments in the capital of quito. the presidential now governed by decree until the elections can be held, a process that could take up to 6 months. a large number of police have now left the vicinity of the residence of a former pockets, tony permanence to him or on con. after spending most of the day outside his house,
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the 7th year old veteran petition had said these were prepared to detain him again . in northern italy, at least 9 people have died in floods since thousands more have been displaced. heavy rain full has caused rivers to best the bang century, the land slides, some areas receive huff, that annual rainfall and the last 2 days and sundays from $1.00 to $1.00 growing free and name of the has been cooled off. the wind back green deal between ukraine and russia. it has been extended for 2 months. the agreement that has allowed millions of tons of ukrainian grain to be shipped through lexi ports located by russia. russia and ukraine have welcome the extension of deal berkeley by the un un to key a 9 microns have been found dead. the border between 10 is the end of julia officials in test serene sites nicely. they died from cold 1st and 15th. there's been
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a surge of people trying to cross the border in recent months. there's all the headlights and these continues here and i'll just say we're, that's off the district. this is the conflict and to time continued some correspondence or on the ground to record every angle. if the stories have been on good between the hours and the 6 needs are me for the flight available beat ages, the say that a 100 i'm soothing is refugees. why you have to be registered under what kind of access this dispute does not get to where it is needed, so it may not get there and all the challenges ahead is your stay without the benefits the walk into the streamlined semi ok. thanks for watching today. we are looking at the current political, quite safe in pakistan. if you have questions, thoughts,
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comments, be on the cheese and be part of this discussion. i will do my best to put your questions to our guests. so we stopped to talk about the recent on risk impact as don collage. i'm a how made a safe back a sounds minister of defense minister. it is good to have you. i described the situation if pac hassan right now is a political crisis. is that accurate? how would you describe it? i really do have a member to do crisis and guard on regret. crisis at the moment in boxed um, but uh we are, we are, uh uh, you know, our next couple of days this, this in the, died down and we'd be able to control it because of the already, you know, uh, the subsiding dividing systems uh, subsiding and the other rest is subsiding. um this crisis uh, you know, started online may. there not. um, maybe installations uh all over the country especially not one thing the or
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shower and you know, while you wait on a basis basically gatewood curse. uh and uh, so mom's that, uh if, if i may up there is some dispute about which policy attack, which policy. so i'm thinking that this risk began when the arrest of in wrong con, happened that spot. the protests was misjudged. that is correct. yeah, but uh it is made in the box. so um i was the best a my, the disorder listed many workers of my boss. you would have a state, but we never did a doctor to alliance or destruction of uh, government, but all around would be better be installations. a military installation, in my humble opinion that are bad by the enemy of the state, the enemy of the country, not by people. if i have a pretty good defensive someone,
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fine, perhaps it will expire. if i go to the extreme, we live back uh, you know, my, some of the, the, some, some irish right. what attaching a bottom by design attacking the military installations, the owners of the senior military officers in braces that has our design. it was to going to movies in the wall. i live declaration of water this box. okay, so minutes i, i see where you coming from. you were complaining about the protest as attacking the military. i want to move on a little bit because those protest is one of the states, many of being rounded up and it appears like they're going to have a military trial. well, the civilian trial, even though the civilian protest is, can you speak to that please? so that is not my correct. i explain it really, people have attacked the military installations or they have with that the may
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agree on why sort of admitted the basis. it'd basses, of course, uh, they lee drive by existing uh, military laws which are, which are there on our statute books and permitted by that wants to use in a box stop. we aren't creating any new board. so, you know, creating a new law and only resolution is taking place that's already the framework is already there. and then we drive people, what are that somebody installations and data residences? did offices databases every drive by many people, okay? but they have the right to appeal in the high golden depth of the screen so that there's, uh, there's hardly any difference between that. it's really a drive or a military drive. they set that international law says that civilians should not be put on minute to trial and stuff, but we'll move forward. and this comes from audience of us who are watching this. and it's about assessing the power of the military,
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you administer of defense. so most of us are saying that every country in the world has an army, but pakistan's army has a country. they have a tradition of fighting against the people that own country. this really speaks to the power of the military. how important the military impact is done is to what happens politically a mess stuff. so the, um uh was uh 4 times when he took over um, uh the government in, uh, in the 60s uh 50 to 679. bought the 70s. uh then in the eighty's and then a year uh uh, of this uh century in uh from uh, 9099 to i think 200-2008 ford estates of government. uh, almost 37 years we have been going by maybe as, as correct. that is correct for somebody as to how we can get out of this current situation. it is, as you would say, a political crisis. how do you and the political crisis just in
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a sentence so i can move on you know, i, we are trying to, 1st uh, take control of the situation that the piece, uh, the turn to the cds with the rest of the place in last 4 or 5 days, i think these are already coming down there. uh. okay, going back to norman a couple of days and days it'd be back to normal and the like says behind on schedule, and now the minnesota card, you have a home and a safe minister of defense in pakistan. thank you for joining us on the screen today. you're almost president. so the former prime minister packs on long con is at the center of a political crisis right now. but how did we get here? let me take you back to april of 20. $22.00 gave you
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a timeline of events in april of last year, the power struggle style fade. and that was when prime minister in wrong con, with a full month prime minister and my car was ousted from office and upon the main street come from no confidence vote. then we moved to march of this year. and that is when con, as a court order arrest in the hall, and this since then, that'd be more than a 100 legal cases against them, including charges against corruption, inciting terrorism, blasphemy. and then bring as white up to date may of this year. on may the night arrested by pop power military force. he's been released released on file and feeling a rest. again, i'm just looking at a headline here from today early on today. and the headline says him wrong. con, fee is arrest, says police have surrounded my house with us to talk about the situation. and it's something that solved as a mon generalist of pack us down to a chief the voice of america. in washington dc,
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zag eunice director of the pac hassan initiative at the atlantic consul. and in the whole pack us don shelf caught my mood, a senior member of the pakistan study in south potty or p t. i guess it's really good to have you. i'm just wondering in a sentence, if you could describe what is happening, you pack us down right now. x on politics are always vibrant color, full, passionate, dramatic, epic. sora, what would you say is happening right now in your country as well, along with being vibrant? it is now also become product, you know, take, and last week we saw the chaos right now. oh, we're still seeing a lot of uncertainty, the girl test them down. but i don't understand how when the defense minister was saying things are going to get better. the next few days, i don't understand how because ron han, who had received immunity from arrest until the 31st from before is now once again facing uncertainty because the government job has said that they have given uh free
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d 24 hours. notice, because their claim is the data for the train done or is there a whole depends upon park, which is wrong. ponds. private residents in the eastern city of the heart, the government hasn't said what's going to happen at the end of those 24 hours. they haven't given any information about who these stutters are. so again, we're dealing with the uncertainty of just as the headlines that you read about 100, he spoke to his supporters this evening. the treat said that this would be his laughter of the address before his arrest. so we once again, don't know if he's going to go to arrest or tomorrow or no, just got you. i was slightly taken aback when the minister said i've been arrested . it almost sounded like being arrested if you're in politics is new business as usual. i'm how is it wrong. com right now, how is he thinking, what do you see? what is his plan? what is it to see on my time? by far, immediately because i was just at a 100 by the police and or expecting any time some kind of assault has happened.
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ready before it may happen again, the paychecks this time is that there are 34 kids that are hysteria abroad. comments and. busy the as well as the party said that you bring some police dedication and the genders that can all come in and see if that goes to i think there, so there is a stand both right now. but you know, this is of, i was surprised when the district said that i reconcile that, that they can put it to comprises. busy they start going. ready like this, if there are over 7000 people arrested of age continuing. ready the papers. busy sanctity of their homes is being violated then obviously crisis will not. and they know how the price is gonna end. and i think that is a fairly b b if you win the band reason for all of this is that uh but one thing alliance vdm just does not want to go to school to go to an action going forward. when that
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when it's the going to election, baby. ok. but lose that they lose badly. so they're uh was trying everything uh to disqualify brought the call for us to, to put in by in bonds to bend the party, intimidate the party, arrested smokers. so all kinds of extra breaks the park drive in brick, the party by will take people out of it. so everything is being done just to a big you know, to back to the playing field. i'm even and say what about the the, the election that may or may not come that i say it may not, because i've got a, it's gonna, it's gonna come in october and the minister said everything's gonna come down a few days. i'm elections will be in october. let me just share the conversation with you. we'll co palace is that who's that? i i, i'm wondering about the protesters. i'm what is happening to them. the description
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of them facing military. a cool rather than a civilian cool is concerning. some money is that we have a contribution from an anonymous protest that she wants stay anonymous because she's scared. so what might happen to her? who explains what is happening to protest as right now from her perspective, let's have a listen. let's have a look at it please. can you comment on what you see? the medium box on you big news. the things i've done in producers demanding free and fair elections. so can we limited to your non duty have been subjected to unimaginative, new items assigned and a function? using cars on videos of them and being done by that it can be done in the city. many, and had their houses rated in the middle of the night, announcing the keyboard to guide these people for did escalate extensions. and is also incompatibility that obligations under the nice of human rights. though. it's also the same turn to hold on to the degree to the violence against n,
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as in good testers. disturbingly reports, and again that over 7000 people. i mean, i don't know if i need to talk to do an inductive. so i ended suppressing the demand for a democratic right. a zach go ahead. look, no party, don't political work or in any society should face state depression, especially a party that was birth it nurtured and trust into power by the institution. the military that is now actively trying to dismantle it, but we must also do some truth spelling over here. and the fact of the matter is that mister mahmud and his party, when they were in power, arrested, their political opponents, their political, what occurs of their political opponents um and did much of what is being done to them today. so this is a personal site and there are no hall from so beautiful and i think what needs to happen is for leaders like minister asked if it was just on. and mr. man, one, to be honest, who the people are focused on about whose behalf they were doing what,
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why were they will pressing their other party when they were in power? and more importantly for the p d i at this point in time do not distance. it says from its workers, which is it is actively doing by saying these are not our people, but in fact stand by them, especially those with less privilege because what's going to happen and what's already happening in august on is that those are the privilege, the sons and daughters of gen, rose garden, those majors judges, etc, are making deals to protect their own. whereas the ordinary citizens who came out on the streets because mister han and his party invited them up to attack mister green solutions, they are facing the full brunt of the state and his machinery, including being tried in ministry chords, which is condemned invalid should not happen in any society, but uh if we got uh, some of the advisors on it. if we are to move on in august on over here, then the bpi and the bbm and the military must be a bit more honest with the people of bog assign or the games they have played with
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ordinary citizens over the last few years. i think we are going into some go some, especially with the subdivisions have to say that. busy the, the people but also going back and i at bon, uh, or whatever. but if your institutions is absolutely incorrect and therefore be boss for an independent inquiry. because the party has reasons to believe that there was a officer walker to you sometime if, if i called even if i were a soft cough i'm am, i'm calling actually spoke to outer 0 just a few hours ago. i want to just take a little bit of his interview, where he talks about this very issue that you explain i'm, i want him to do it and he's a was and then we can pick up from here he is out on today and i'll just see what i can do all the b j. o, so there must be some of it is the wrong way or might be,
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but the purpose peacefully. fire was completely so it is, i was still the future at all. do know the we, all of these norms were so suddenly decided, but i don't believe we have the insight into that. i don't have any source of because you've been reporting and i want to bring in another voice, which is what happens when you get to this point. elections are supposed to be in october. the is unrest, political unrest, the country is divided. i'm just going to bring in come miles voice. she talked to us a little bit earlier about how do you run down web pack hassan is right now. she's the country played by this time and with a very strong culture. do you have pollution needs to happen?
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i mean it's up and fast through g above i took the ministry establishment is beating otherwise peace. protesters and divided by lots cannot be controlled and forces appearances unemployed. both health no, and the prices in the state jersey needs to stop and elections and need to because as soon as possible. so how do you get to a situation where there's calm impacts done? so certainly i actually want to begin a couple of more things. also please go home b d i say is and been around han says that, you know, we never asked our fee for to come back any kind of violence. they recently released a video message that he had reported on the 22nd of march. i believe that in which he's talking about how he has all the stopped his paper from any guy to buy less. but the fact is that in the middle of march, the authorities went to his residence in lahore. do you reserve his water and send to arrest him? what did his body do? his body send out the car to his supporters to come out from anywhere,
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every there and then his supporters. they clashed with police. so it's not a live body has always you know, what if, if one square served that iran han just got up and walked with the authorities to appear in court at other dental. so when he has appeared in court one, he has missed a lot of, of coordinating, so many has appeared. he has also a going towards the huge contingent of supporters and all the high end. but they say that partly the p t, eyes for the situation that they find themselves in and they need to find themselves. and then you criticizing how they operate to see i'm just looking for the facts. i mean, somebody can see it, us could just have them, somebody can just see it as you know, object is just beautiful faxed back to in the forwarding. but the fact is that the party has given its people this messaging, again, it again. but if anything happens to him around hugs, you must come out and you must come out and flir flores. so many times we have seen the aspect red and brown. honda is the red line we have seen very towards the
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borders a allies off at brawn, con of say, on camera that if something happens to him, it's going to just kill, send focused. i think good have been taken as a trip. i don't know that mister shows good can speak to why the supporters have come out in the past many times and said things like that. well, that is a big difference between. busy people exaggerating, and people protesting peacefully and why that's been focused on that has been a long history. also. critically parties going to the people protest in going onto the streets and so on. this is being the few general focus on politics for whatever a long time. there's a big difference between bad and saying that uh, the party is directing people to go up in the sky. you said what happened back there via my hot tubs, leads as much as any focus on these for more time. but the question is, is what you have us for as an independent inquiry. and you,
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and the way you can say is that what you get is a wrong call and has a up to a 100 or maybe more than a 100 charges against him. how will you get an independent inquiry as well? it's not easy, but the, traditionally, we're hoping that uh the, the courts. and by the way, because attaching the cold style with the chief justice is being attacked, the other thoughts of being attacked. but why? because for a given all of the stuff that i'm going to, i'm going to come back to you cuz you're breaking up a little bit. but i the point one point yes. go ahead study. i do want to clarify this much, that i'm not saying that all of divide, this was perpetrated by p t. i supported alone. i mean, there could be a troublemaker, there could be an open ended people. i, i don't have any dependent information on that. and just as b d i is dividing a, an independent inquiry into the protests that the government has 0 laid out. it's
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the one i feel like i've done using what i would always be like. what i would like to do for you is cuz i know you've been reporting on the ground, this is to give off you as a sense of how passionate p t i support is what they doing around a run. conn's home to 45. you have a look at this clip. it gives you a sense of the loyalty of peachy eye members. let's have a look. the concept the got to get the mysql organization. those are the hobby. i'm the see. my daughter is keyboarding of him and i'll get a give you the top reason of the was get vision of the mob man know when they all have a significant in the category of a heavy, legally i want to again and do i have? what is the and then douglas, okay, what you said we, we could get into the job and he goes services and medical again. so we'll get on the guy get, this is a lot of the send an easy and they can jump. so you shouldn't even look at the articles get lost. so you obviously the red missiles we some comics in the meantime
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. if on some comments on this is a, this is going to be the very definition of royal with your, your toilets surrounding your home. they've got a loop to canon that. what does this tell us about where politics is right now in pakistan? it feels like there's a, a low key back to going on and who knows what he's going to happen next, is that good? a box on staring apart at the seams. right now i've been saying since last year, this is the most serious threat to national cohesion since 1971 when bangladesh was born. and mister man, woods point, if the b d, i was not sending its people to attack mr. tree installations. and my question is, how did the nephew of mr. and ron hon, the leader of the party, and up with the trousers of the gender who is living at you know, house at that point in time. there is a video available to sort of wanted to see about that right now. that does not mean
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that i couldn't don't, in any way, shape or form what's happening to the ordinary workers of the b d. i ordered leadership. what's happening is that oppression. what's happening is condemned to both. and what's happening is should be resisted and talked about open to the as violation of human rights and boxed on the demand for elections. and the punjab ends have are booked on the book, is legitimate. the government has run away from the concert to suppose you would need for the elections in august sign in a timely manner as main date mandated by the law. but again, this does not mean that charged up workers of the p d. i. the resistor s attack police attack military installations and then mr. han himself a few days a said his fight is with the army to you've done with need. and today he signed a very different tune saying that he would never criticize the army or take a fight with them when a few days ago and you were selling his work. or is that mr. and we need gentlemen, he is responsible for his arrest and then all of a sudden his position changes. so again,
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i will keep repeating this while i think that's the charge sheet against abroad. i didn't interrupt you said the evidence you have. uh no, you have an online list of things that you attached going on each on the television . you, you, you like to interrupt me, but the, in my, my retirement time is packaged on television. so i can have $200.00 gas or replacing with each other. that is going to be my retirement plan. but let me show you and tell you what is happening on youtube right now. guess because you have a spot to conversation schermick that there is no, no de escalation. the pakistan ami a says pongo never won a war, never lost an election. and then in the coming weeks, many people are saying we would like an election. when would that be an election? this is a conversation, guess that i know we'll continue so many weeks a months to come. we really appreciate your insight, trying to explain what the political quest is means for practiced on and also for
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the weld. thank you to sata is that i don't say shaft, got an allstate to the many view as to our own 9 right now on youtube. we really appreciate it at the news continues office a with what is happening. pack a song on ad 0, don't com. and on the news, ours as well. thanks for watching. i'll see you next time. take the on the
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frank assessments. quite frankly. let's address the elevator in the room. the reason the south koreans want their own nuclear to terraces because they don't trust the us informed opinions. fighting has basically lock this thing up so far that it is impossible virtually for somebody else 7 to the race at this point in depth analysis of the days headlines. so then case by the end of the states that there is no strong government, which means that this might affect other countries inside story on challenges era. the
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