and we're expecting those winds to pick up once again across northern parts of china. we could see some sandstone blowing into beijing, certainly by the mid week, look at the temperature in tokyo and the 17 degrees celsius of the on choose day. we all, however, expecting some recovery into wednesday, 24 degrees celsius with some sunshine, that should weather update of the a unique foam and protest by a palestinian taste using a symbol of national identity to create postage and passport stamps. but i was from december nice clear to bill that comes flying anyway, sending a message of resistance about the arab israeli conflict. we've come to palestine, palestine sundance, the stamp of defiance on out as the of the

attacks and smears that's china's response to criticisms by the g 7. washington is driving a tougher line with facing as military and foreign relations with the e. u become closer. so weird sounds that leave it's your opinion, allies and detroit times with face yang. this is inside story, the hello and welcome to the program on top of the crime. beijing has reacted angrily to a statement by g 7 latest during this summits in japan. the g 7 communicate included criticism of beijing on human rights, alleged into affair, and send democracies and tension in the south china sea. the well relations between washington and beijing have sung to the lowest in decades. china is growing to

become the world's 2nd biggest economic powerhouse. it's advisable trading. ponder that the european union and many global industries depend on. so how can they respond as the united states ratchets up at stance on china? position reiterates is at the g 7. we are more secure with all the talk about china is building this military and this building is military and that's why i've made it clear that i am not going to prepare. i'm not prepared to trade certain items with china. and when i was asked by presidency, why should, because usually the nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, and i'm not going to do it. and we've now got commitment from all of our allies, they're not going to raise or provide that kind of material that allows them to do that. but that's not a hostile act. that's an act that says we're going to make sure that we do everything we can to maintain the status quo and what china has reacted furiously to the g 7 summit. launching a formal complaint with japan, katrina,

you reports from beijing on the reaction that china has responded angrily to the 27 summit in her rush and accusing the group of smearing badging and distorting facts . firstly, badging denies that it's guilty of economic collision pointing thing is instead of the united states and what it says a uni latrell sanctions is also condemned washington. so putting pressure on other countries to the couple from chinese supply chains on the issue of east and south trying to see the aging says that it has always maintained maritime law and accuses the group of causing instability in the region. however, china has also refused to acknowledge the fact that much of the territory that it uses and claims as its own is also claimed by many of its neighbors. and finally, the agent has attacked the g 7 for expressing concern of a tie, one and human rights abuses, and should jump to bed and a phone call. it says that these are actually domestic of says that the groups are not metal and as well as other countries. now in the lead up to this summit,

china has sold to discredit the g 7 cooling at a club of the rich and anti china alliance replace with genuine interest. and while she was developing countries, however, despite its numerous criticisms, the agent continues to maintain strong and important trading relationships with each of the do 7 member states, including the european union. katrina you out of, is there a staging? well, relations with the us and you are pet, become close of the war and you try and try is between the a, you and china has expanded rapidly during recent years. last year, china was the use 2nd largest tried pound the off to the us. total imports and exports reach more than $926000000000.00. a china is the 3rd largest destination for goods produced in the u. accounting for 9 percent of the blocks exports among the use top exports to china, causing all the components and electrical goods. some of china is main inputs from the you include telecommunication equipment and data processing. machines will see

you are balancing the needs to trade with china is relations between beijing and washington. worse and present the serious challenges. european policy is to the risk that is reduced exposure to china and not the capital or safer that ties with the, the, the coupling that's bought there is a very clear understanding here. no one is advocating decoupling excluding china from global trait, but is being pursued by no one. and everyone is of the opinion that china shouldn't be able to develop. well, it'd be some time. it is also important to watch closely that this is embedded in the family of the in tennis. now order we have part of that is that all countries must come me to respect to the intention of rules, and that policy must be conducted in such a way that the re security for everyone in the split. joining me now, i'll just in beijing is on

a tank in china senior fellow at the time he institute a think tank in london is vicki process chief economic adviser at the center for economics and business research and in brussels. is steven lang, a chief diplomatic correspondent to europe at the new york times, and welcome to all 3 of you. thank you very much for being on al jazeera, steven, if i can uh, begin with your place. i mean, this has been described as one of the strongest condemnations by the g 7. i mean, how surprised are you with the g 7 statement, especially? it's the written us towards beijing. oh, i'm not terribly surprised. i mean one fights about language constantly and statements have a certain value. i wouldn't take them too seriously, but the united states is still the most powerful member of the g 7. and joe biden has been quite tough on china in a way. so it was donald trump, i mean there's a recognition in the united states that china is

a pure rival. and it has emissions in the pacific which challenge american interest there. and europe is called as, as you and your reporter said, you know, more difficult players, but they are opinion as has also discovered with covered and also in a way, whether it's dependency on russia, that it doesn't want to be as dependent for trade for goods for supplies of important materials on china either. so the idea of pretty much following the americans is to try to protect key industries and key sources of, of raw material to de risk, while not destroying the important trades that you also described. it's a delicate balancing act. the noise china, china feels in circled, but the westwood. so this is

a response to china is actions not coming out of the blue vicky. can you just, i guess, describe the economics for it that is, that is posed by, by using and just give us a little bit of context to the scale of china's economic power coming out of code 19. and especially, you know, the use of the term that we've heard over the last couple of days. the circled economic coalition that the g 7 is accusing china roles. yes, i think that's a, that's really quite interesting when you look at so particularly the involvement of china and the number of countries, particularly developing countries where it has been quite involved in infrastructure development of course. and what we do know is that as a result, that it has been able to be considerably more influential in terms of the language . some of these countries operates. in addition, of course, we have the issue of trade winds the west more generally. where of course we've coverage, um, as you mentioned them in the issues have been that supply chains have been very significantly disruptive and

a lot to what we needed to go into our company fracturing into the production of schools, miles and everything else. computers. and of course, increasingly in the electrical vehicle side, we would, depending on time that's of that. and we've seen how the disruption of that has affected manufacturing outputs more generally in many countries, including of course in the u. k. where i'm speaking from, so there is a concern that if one is relying too much on a country which counting the exec conventions on the of the speed of supply. if you lie to the amount of goods that people are getting elsewhere in the world, the apps too, we can, we can security. but it's also the question of maybe the feeling that as china grows and come back now course into the trade situation again. because because it's opened up post coverage itself,

what we may be finding is that indeed as europe expands on the west expands again, the demands on the inputs from china. note our events in going to be increasing. and the reason the data is we've just been hearing this pushed to try and be a little bit more competitive against china with the law. some breakfast is now on subsidies and supporting one's own industry. they are now a strategies for 70 conductors good, nor in any europe. we've seen, of course, quite a lot of the subsidies also on the green side in the us. so i think we are beginning to see something my case on taking place between regions where there is actually going to be a lot more emphasis on supporting strategic industries. and also course in ensuring that one is more competitive. so the one does not realize how much on china i'm any of that, but it's going to be cation. so that may be, may have on a we, we heard from our corresponding katrina, you envisioning at the beginning of the program about the response there. i think

she described it as furious. i mean, can you elaborate on that? just how angry is badging at the g 7 at the moment? well, i mean, for beijing is, you know, the sense of hypocrisy. here. you have the us talking about economic coersion when it was the us who has been, um, is in the past for the unilateral sanctions on other countries, renfero and neighbor alike. and it still has them. in fact, it's the us always say, well, if you know the us, it says that we're somehow impinging on the south china seas. they don't talk about the monroe doctrine, which apparently is being revived. so that there's this real sense that the us is being very hypocritical, all that this is simply a power play by the us to try to maintain this a jeremy and kind of getting its old game together. the g 7 to support kids. and this kind of idea of, you know, us, you know, maintaining of us,

the primacy of the fact is, the g 7 is basically an anachronism. that wasn't able to deal with the financial crisis that had to be done by a wider group. the g 20 is it has made a lot of promises and if you look over the joint communicate, there's a lot of talk, but very, very little action. and quite frankly, they've lost a lot of credibility, especially in the developing world global south. and you know, there's been all these promises of a $100000000000.00 a year. now, only a fraction of it has come for it for climate change action. now they're promising 600000000000 for infrastructure. but you know, it's kind of hard to believe that these country is going to take other put other countries infrastructure above their own presence and us things are crumbling. so yes, your vision is kind of not happy. it seems that every time the us gets together with somebody, it's an attack on china. steven is, uh,

and i mentioned there is, is that you is being hypocritical. every country is hypocritical, particularly in, in the all of the, and all of their public statements. i mean, to go back to the monroe doctrine, that's fine, that's a couple of 100 years ago. but the chinese civil. so as we all know, decided to ignore international court rulings about the south china sea. china is doing a lot of industrial espionage. china is building a very powerful navy. china is building a nuclear weapons to double its stock pile. china is, are preparing at least to encircle taiwan when it chooses to, and america's allies in the pacific. par anxious, they're anxious about. she's in things aggressive town. and china is

domination of certain key raw materials, so hypocritical, sure. everybody's hypocritical. that's not really the point. the point is who interests are at stake and who's trying to protect them? and divided states does have allies on china, has russia, and that's about it. is saving you mentioned earlier that, you know, us still being the, the major dominant super pallet at this point in time is different for you to fold into line with it's foreign policy. obviously, we've seen it against the board and you crying as a basically is binding and the us full thing is foreign policy against china down a use try. i think that's a little strong. i mean, the us is obviously leading europe and nato was effort to defend ukraine against russian regression. that is for sure,

that has increased us influence to be sure. but it is also true that the european union for the last 5 years, i would say, has been increasingly conscious of the threats. china poses 2 european trade to european intellectual property and is conscious says it is because of its own dependence on russia for energy of its dependence on china for key materials. so it's trying to reduce this dependence. there's this ugly term, the risk game, but i mean, the fact of the matter is there is a feeling. china is not playing by w t o rules though nobody is really anymore. and one feels a kind of economic nationalism increasing. both on the part of the united states on the part of the q u, but certainly also on the part of china, this whole notion,

the whole trade is good for everybody. seems to keep price might agree to be less popular now than it used to be as the steven was talking about the, the, the, the, the word of, of the day is the risk. and i mean, it's, you know, monthly, what sort of impact is it going to happen? i mean, surely, any, the risking is going to type g is indeed it's gonna take is. and the question is, what do you do in between? because you clearly have to key reasonable relations with china because one is still needs to import quite a lot. and also of course, we must forget that these you exports robert and not to china as well. so it is a 2 way trade, so that are beneficial benefits in keeping that going. but of course there are rules that already having an impact. so a sectors which are considered not to be strategic, which were not considered a strategic before. and no more concerned about the purchase of,

of organizations and companies buy china entities where there's a lot more emphasis on looking at the governance of whoever is buying whatever the old denies ation in, in europe, of course, has been already happening in the us. so there's restriction on where they know some of the chinese companies going to be involved like in the telecom sector as we've seen recently. um, at the same time cost $1.00 still wants to be able to export and to have access to various areas in, in china and in some ways those have been opened up in the last decade. and the last thing i think the number of your things we want is for that to become more difficult. of course, there is always a concern about ip and a technical espionage, but we have seen and this is where you want to pick up. the contradiction goes us results as a result of everything we've seen recently, we're seeing the chancellor of germany going to china quite recently. and i,

and i'm looking at most of the ways of if anything's of improving some of the trade and investment links. so that has to continue, i would say over a period of time, why this, this would be risking takes place because you're quite right. it cannot be done or not. and i don't imagine that china is going to sit idly by while all this happens . i mean, we heard a little bit of the rhetoric response from beijing. what can or will it do from, from here? i mean, are we talking sanctions? what's the, what's the next move find beijing? well, hopefully they will respond to it for todd. i mean, it's even a, you know, advocate is this kind of a moral world where it's just whether you have a gang of friends or not, which makes you write mentions to w t o, but it's the us who is preventing preventing the w t from working because it refuses to allow the judge, appellate judges to be put in position so that they could rule on matters in terms of what china is going to do. i think that they're doing it,

and that is their expanding belton road. if you look the kind of opposite number to this was a huge experience meeting with the 5 countries or central asia, very successful concrete plans put in money actually committed projects developed versus, you know, this hiroshima, i don't know what this side one of the worst man disasters in history, a reminder that of the evils of war and what you have are basically countries are saying, well, maybe wars. that's right. i mean they're, they're ratcheting and upper pressure trying to put countries in a corner. i don't think it's very helpful, but i don't think that china should respond to it. i mean, it's just silliness. as i said, g 7 is now on an optimism. stephen, you know, as we've talked a little bit about the south china sea and, and tie one what, what interest as you having in that region at all and, and why is it,

or should it be getting involved to in that? well, 1st of all, it is the trade routes and it was to protect the french of citizens. don't, don't forget, i mean, the french, as part of france is in the pacific. and these countries have ties, longstanding, ties, central ties to the pacific region. so it's, it's not somehow getting involved, it's just keeping involved in a part of the world that is rising. that's getting richer. that is very important to the west. all of the west in terms of trade. but also in terms of, of working ideally together to face issues like climate change and other problems that really are global problems. so nobody wants this kind of division but gets hostile. there is just a sense that china is beginning to push outwards in ways

that damage other people's, long's long standing interest and they are opinions like the americans are responding. vicki, as on a mentioned um and sort of touched on a little little bit earlier, you know, we've seen recently more and more countries starting to pull away from the us and europe. you know, pacific island nations that have been rude by china and many countries in africa as well. do you think that this because of china is i guess more aggressive take on things or is it the us and the west complacency and, and just assuming that that otherwise the allies well the, the real problem i think for a number of developing nations which have accepted as of interest dr. money from, from china is of the now or the point where the have to look again at the debt situation of coast coverage has made considerably worse. so what is going on right now, of course, is the world bank. i'm back from the west and donors, if you like,

of considering rescheduling, may be debt forgiveness and so on. so what we're seeing is that at least those other thoughts. so china gives about good explanation for why they don't want to be during this time. because of course, having a lending right now with normal interest rates because of going out, they're concerned more about the financial sector in china. and what would happen if indeed we had all those the, the given is as of agreements going forward. so they're not playing bold, i think that's the belief of the west of an airplane. but when it goes up, that does a, in some ways tight, quite low the countries to china. on the other hand, it's obviously making it an overview. is that perhaps the financial arrangements have come to, i'm not particularly beneficial for them. and as we know from the pos, what tends to happen is if there are issues onto the situation with some of these countries, then, you know, trying not to take some of those entities over or gets much more involved in the binding of the country. so that space is basically one of the concerns of economic

colors. and if you like, you want to call me back, it's a slightly different definition to the normal one is, is worrying. so uh that i think is, is what may be of the issue here. in addition to a good situations of where all we perhaps safest in terms of what type of maybe happening would you probably takes in the future just before we finish up in a few minutes, i want to talk about the board new crime because obviously there is a major impact on relationships between all of these countries. and uh, i mean, it appears at this point in time that the china is citing as close to links with, with russia and then you try it. i mean, how is this good? i haven't had a major impact on the relationship with, with the a you with the g c and them with the you with. well, i mean, the china has been having a good, really relations with russia for quite some time. it's increased obviously because russia has been cut off from the west. yes. so you know, it's like water. it goes where it's,

it can go as opposed sore account in terms of how that's regarded. i mean, from china's perspective i, beijing has said that there are neutral that they want peace. and right now they're proving it. they're the only one out there trying to say that, you know, pieces necessary us throwing more bombs that this year begins, insisting that because this war is in their back yard, it's a moral imperative that the world supported global styles. probably doesn't feel strongly about that since they've had continuous wars since 1945 her you know, originally in change operations by the us. i don't, you know, they say, well, gee, was, it wasn't a moral imperative when it was a more our back yard. so what you see is the global south central asia, with china, obviously on kind of moving in their own direction. while they were colonial powers, represented by the g 7, are lecturing people how to run their economies around the world. when they're, you know, our economies themselves are in shambles. now it's kind of ironic that

a china will grow over 5 percent. you're under one percent. us barely above one percent. you know, they feel entitled to tell everybody that they have a solution doesn't seem so steven, i want to get your reaction to how the war and ukraine and, and china is relationship with rusher and how that is. uh, i guess strengthens um since since the boss started how that is affected, what, what we saw at the g 7 as well. i would say a ton of seals, a little stuck. so there's no limits partnership. there's the chinese and bass that are typically you told me is just rhetoric. no limits is just rhetoric. it is true that china, like russia wants to have a revision of the multilateral world order that the u. s. has been dominating since the end of world war 2. that is absolutely true. but china,

if it was told about the war, coming in your train, expected a quick war, it didn't expect this war and it has been put in a very complicated position. it has refused to condemn russia's invasion of the ukraine while at the same time, insisting that he had accept ukraine's international boundary is including crimea. it has made us fairly abstract piece proposal. others of tried to do the same the saudis, african leaders, the turks, at some point there are likely to be negotiations, but it's not clear. a china is considered a sort of even even handed broker here. but i think china wants to make sure the war doesn't go nuclear, and it is so far not given russia, the military supplies,

russia seems to, seems, seems to have wanted. so i think china is trying to find the right balance. it doesn't want to break with europe or with united states, and it doesn't want it's alliance with russia to harm it. it also doesn't want russia to lose in ukraine because that would destroy the whole idea of having this partnership in the 1st place. so i think for try it, it's a very awkward moment during the war. it's expected to last a few months and on a couple years. okay, vicki. a final question before we go, we've only got a minute to start. lift is the will going to trump trade? well it's, uh, it's may well do. we've seen that during this whole conflict, of course, and in ukraine sanctions have increased considerably the flows of traits have been effective without any doubt. so i'm afraid we are now almost accepting that the

arrows globalization is a, it's bit of a shame in many ways. but he asked me to think of things available, tied flows, and why we go through. yeah. like every fascinating to see how things play out. thank you very much for joining us on inside story on a tank and vicky prize and stephen elanda. thank you very much and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, i'll just say or dot com. and for further discussion, go through all facebook page. that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story . you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is add a inside story from may till mccrae and the whole team here. by the the

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